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The UK’s biggest water company, Thames Water, has been accused of behaving like a 'rogue trader' as the number of sewage spills lasting longer than 24 hours more than doubled in 2023.
Data obtained by LBC shows that Thames Water was responsible for almost 1500 incidents of sewage dumping lasting over a day compared to 633 in 2022 - a 136% increase.
James O'Brien imagines what news coverage would be like if Tories and client journalists could prove that migrants are somehow responsible for sewage being discharged into waterways.
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@ThomasKing19933
@ThomasKing19933 4 ай бұрын
We have a government that doesn't care and a country that is crumbling. Water company bosses should already be in jail.
@robinsondrob
@robinsondrob 4 ай бұрын
Well you have seen in the past i.e bank crisis that actually all they have to do is say sorry, and make you pay for it...
@BritishNaturalist-vb8hj
@BritishNaturalist-vb8hj 4 ай бұрын
They are not responcible for the overwhelming number of immigrants let in.
@davidhooper1767
@davidhooper1767 4 ай бұрын
But they just get a fine so no imprisonment.Meanwhile making a fortune.
@lestrem11
@lestrem11 4 ай бұрын
Correct, but Labour have no solutions either. At some point Labour will HAVE to find some policies of their own. Just pathetic.
@davidhooper1767
@davidhooper1767 4 ай бұрын
​@@lestrem11You mean the ones that the Tories pinched off Labour? What exactly have the Tories done in 14 years apart from making the rich richer and the poor poorer?
@dub604
@dub604 4 ай бұрын
The turds on the benches gave us turds on the beaches.
@MrWhitmen1981
@MrWhitmen1981 4 ай бұрын
Don’t most rich people own water front properties. 😂 Save your money on a real holiday and go to a beach in Australia or somewhere warmer.
@uniquerebeljaney3639
@uniquerebeljaney3639 4 ай бұрын
A new campaign slogan for Labour???
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 4 ай бұрын
@@MrWhitmen1981 they will have nice holiday houses abroad tho.
@user-ch7ri7sm7h
@user-ch7ri7sm7h 4 ай бұрын
😂 nice one and true
@skinwalker_
@skinwalker_ 4 ай бұрын
Basically water companies are not processing sewage because the Tory government has given them a free pass to do this.
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 4 ай бұрын
then they give shareholders a nice payout and have the cheek to pay on a price rise for us
@yanhunt
@yanhunt 4 ай бұрын
Please correct me if my memory is wrong on this: Before the pandemic there was a energy crisis where Russian refineries stopped producing various gas supplies. The price of CO2 and nitrogen went up, and as a result, treatment chemicals for water companies spiked in price. As supplies dwindled, water companies where given permission to dump sewage into waterways. It wasn't climate, population, sudden showers, but profits/costs ratios that led us here. Why pay to treat waste when you can dump it for free?
@amorfati8084
@amorfati8084 4 ай бұрын
If you voted for Brexit you voted for this
@mcfcguvnors
@mcfcguvnors 4 ай бұрын
@@kanedNunable then stop paying - they cant disconnect it
@mcfcguvnors
@mcfcguvnors 4 ай бұрын
@@yanhunt CO2 was caused by the 2 suppliers both closing down at the same time Putin isnt responsible for everything & we had enough for what we NEEDED Medical etc - energy drinks are not important
@maccabeus753
@maccabeus753 4 ай бұрын
The water industry should never have been privatised, it should now be taken back into public ownership with no compensation to shareholders as they’ve made enough money out of the public. To demand that the public pay higher bills for their failures is breathtaking.
@stevenclarke5606
@stevenclarke5606 4 ай бұрын
None of these companies should ever have been allowed to be privatised, Water , Energy, Telecommunication , Railway, these are allowed to make massive profits for their shareholders, and provide us with services that are massively overpriced and underperforming. This is what you get thanks to Thatcher and the Tory Party.
@roelkomduur8073
@roelkomduur8073 4 ай бұрын
Re- nationalising of Thames Water means also picking up their 18 billion debt...A catch 22 i would say.
@CapnPatchweb
@CapnPatchweb 4 ай бұрын
​@@roelkomduur8073leave the debt for the board and the shareholders. They created it they can pay for it out of their bonuses and dividends.
@nickmagee-brown739
@nickmagee-brown739 4 ай бұрын
Lol. Do you realise how many pension companies are invested into these companies. You would break our economy, people need to let this die down now, it's getting sorted out but expect far higher bills.
@dale7385
@dale7385 4 ай бұрын
@@roelkomduur8073Not if we let them fold.. Buy it back cheap from the creditors
@LiquidMarvel
@LiquidMarvel 4 ай бұрын
Imagine if the bosses were given prison time rather than bonuses. It would be resolved very quickly
@davidhooper1767
@davidhooper1767 4 ай бұрын
I doubt it would because it would be 6 months or a year.Theyd still be rich and wouldn't care.
@IshtarNike
@IshtarNike 4 ай бұрын
​@@davidhooper1767if they actually had to go to a normal prison, even for a little time, they would care a lot. The only thing that they care about as much as money is their prestige and social standing. If they were getting banged up with your average council estate drug dealer they'd change their attitude quickly. The main problem is even if the government did enforce prison time there's no guarantee they wouldn't end up in some cozy private prison that looks like a hotel. We would need specific laws enforcing parity of conditions and treatment.
@TheKARMMARK
@TheKARMMARK 4 ай бұрын
Within 4 hours.....
@davidhooper1767
@davidhooper1767 4 ай бұрын
@@TheKARMMARK Nope
@TheKARMMARK
@TheKARMMARK 4 ай бұрын
@@davidhooper1767 Yep
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 4 ай бұрын
Since privatisation not one new reservoir has been built and the population has grown by 10 million since then
@Monklane79
@Monklane79 4 ай бұрын
Since privatization in the 80's the UK's water companies have given £72 billion to shareholders (no, really. Look it up) while investing almost nothing. How is this not criminal?
@monged4life442
@monged4life442 4 ай бұрын
Not to mention racking up enourmous debts to afford to pay themselves that money. The simple answer of nationalising them means the government somehow has to pay off that rediculous debt (while seeing none of the benefit of it) to inherit a water system falling apart that drastically needs a decades worth of investment right now. It's beyond criminal.
@DJWESG1
@DJWESG1 4 ай бұрын
It's not criminal because the police refuse to see it as a crime. Simple as that. There seems to be a line over which they are not willing or prepared to step over. Size means everything, and if your company is bigger than the police it can do as it pleases.
@denisdaly1708
@denisdaly1708 4 ай бұрын
ya. They have asset stripped and leached of the people
@RoofLight00
@RoofLight00 4 ай бұрын
Now extrapolate that across energy, rail, infrastructure industries, computer systems across public utilities, HS2, ferries, bailing out bankers and banks, truss budget (upwards of 400 billion to date) etc etc. I remember at the time all of these schemes would be great value for the public and would improve our services and in turn our environment. These charlatan’s are only interested in raising the public purse and making themselves rich at our expense with their BS culture wars.
@bridgetambrose9206
@bridgetambrose9206 4 ай бұрын
Joe Lycett podcast traces it back to the church of England 😮
@alanrumble7238
@alanrumble7238 4 ай бұрын
If the companies cannot stop sewage being discharged into rivers and seas then the water companies should be nationalised without compensation.
@dominicmoloney2121
@dominicmoloney2121 4 ай бұрын
Id vote for that. Id do the same with national energy resources too, like green energy and oil/gas drilling licenses. The private sector cannot be trusted with people's essential resources.
@markwelch3564
@markwelch3564 4 ай бұрын
Agreed! How long to we have to be stuck with a bad idea before we scrap the bad idea? Privatisation has failed
@ecaeas4439
@ecaeas4439 4 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@ecaeas4439
@ecaeas4439 4 ай бұрын
​@@dominicmoloney2121 They'll probably have to do an emergency re-nationalising of thames water eventually. I've seen today that Thames water are not taking bill rises of more than 40% off the table as their crony shareholders backed out of investing the millions needed to keep the company afloat in the median term. Who is going to put up with a 40% increase to water bills when these crooks have engineered the system to fail. We need accountability and re-nationalising across England's water sector.
@davidcolin6519
@davidcolin6519 4 ай бұрын
You cannot seriously believe that a government, any government, should legitimately be able to steal anything, can you? (Bare with me, I'm giving you a legal way that thew govt. can repossess privatised water companies, or any other one for that matter) OTOH, the watchdogs have had their teeth drawn, so gibve them back their teeth, and ensure that damage done makes full and fair reparations, including legal fees, and make shareholders responsible for all costs. Shareholders are much more likely to jettison their holdings when they see that the profits they have made from politically motivated BS can be clawed back. The water companies have become so used to being able to dump sewage that they are no longer capable of not doing so. Day oner of government, pass an emergency bill requiring full and IMMEDIATE compliance, with forfeiture of profits being the direct result. Then you offer shareholders 1p on the £ to buy back shares AND forfeit any profits/losses from the company.
@scarfhs1
@scarfhs1 4 ай бұрын
We were told that privatisation of the water companies would bring in private investment that would allow for the replacement of our old sewer system. What actually happened was that the private companies found they could maximise their profits by just dumping raw sewage into the rivers and now the companies are saying to fix things they will need to make huge increases in their prices!
@philipcowlishaw2712
@philipcowlishaw2712 4 ай бұрын
Exactly so.
@haruhisuzumiya6650
@haruhisuzumiya6650 3 ай бұрын
They callously dumped sewerage into water ways because they can scrape off the profits from water customers and clients with foregoing maintenance and repair of the Victorian sewerage network
@wayneford2481
@wayneford2481 4 ай бұрын
Water assets have been outsourced by the thacher tory policy. Outsourcing is the way to pocket profits instead of investing in the service for the country. Railways privitised we now have the most expensive travel in europe It's cheeper to fly to spain for a week and pay for private dentistry there. NHS now being sold off quietly , soon if you want treatment you pay or die.
@highmillpickering2470
@highmillpickering2470 4 ай бұрын
Remember that those are 3.6 million hours of raw sewage that we have all paid the privatised water companies to treat and someone has just trousered the cash instead
@rayglenister9799
@rayglenister9799 4 ай бұрын
Quite right. From trousers to trousers you might say,
@RHH7288
@RHH7288 4 ай бұрын
I'm willing to bet, if you looked in the fridges of all these water company CEOs and benefactors you'd find bottled water, and a swimming pool in the back garden.
@Bluetoothedshark
@Bluetoothedshark 4 ай бұрын
I am an ex commercial fisherman from Cornwall, even back in the 90's being miles off shore hauling nets and having to remove sanitary towels from the nets. I bet it's worse than ever now.
@realdeal7074
@realdeal7074 4 ай бұрын
😳🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢😡😡😡😡😡😡
@SimonSmith-yd6tt
@SimonSmith-yd6tt 4 ай бұрын
40% Price increase for Thames Water customers in the South East! "That is the price customers have to pay for the investment in our infrastructure that's needed," said Boss Chris Weston. No mention of the huge amounts of money paid in premiums to shareholders over the years? Hope that the Tory blue southeast are happy to see the chickens coming home to roost.
@vickywitton1008
@vickywitton1008 4 ай бұрын
Everyone in the South East should refuse to pay
@BrokenBellyBeat
@BrokenBellyBeat 4 ай бұрын
Lol.. that is what I thought... There not enough hours. Thanks for the clarification . There is NO respect for the planet we live on.
@kier1568
@kier1568 4 ай бұрын
I've done the maths. That would require 410 water companies to be pumping sewerage, every single hour of the year. There are only 11 water companies in the UK. It's a problem I'm very concerned about, and I know water companies are behaving irresponsibly, but this figure sounds like nonsense and whoever published it needs to explain how they arrived at it.
@philiptaylor7902
@philiptaylor7902 4 ай бұрын
The "invisible hand" of the market does not apply to monopolies.
@markwelch3564
@markwelch3564 4 ай бұрын
Looks like the invisible hand is giving the public an invisible finger...
@philiptaylor7902
@philiptaylor7902 4 ай бұрын
@@markwelch3564 Love it!
@rayglenister9799
@rayglenister9799 4 ай бұрын
But the law should. Penalties for environmental vandalism...where are they.
@marcusp905
@marcusp905 4 ай бұрын
Surfer's against sewage have been saying this for year's!!! since 1990 !
@007JHS
@007JHS 4 ай бұрын
When water was privatised the companies immediately borrowed £billions...not to improve infrastructure, but to gift money to their shareholders... The repayments of these loans was immediately put onto our water bills.
@ThatGuyThanus
@ThatGuyThanus 4 ай бұрын
Are they actually treating ANY sewage?
@brianduguid6721
@brianduguid6721 4 ай бұрын
It's probably very little as it costs money!!
@jeanselvanadan7743
@jeanselvanadan7743 4 ай бұрын
They arent treating the water they are laires
@kevinduggan201
@kevinduggan201 4 ай бұрын
I wish Thatcher was alive to see all of this, not because I think she could do anything about it, but because I would love to see the look on her face as the scales fall from her eyes as she sees all of these amazing privitization initiatives she pushed on us systematically fail in real time
@weswheel4834
@weswheel4834 4 ай бұрын
I think most Tories still think privatisation is great so not sure she'd be any different. She'd be wrong obviously, but she always was.
@kevinduggan201
@kevinduggan201 4 ай бұрын
@@weswheel4834 no but I'd like to see her jump through hoops explaining why a policy that was supposed to represent better quality water, infrastructure, and efficiency is now 18 billion in debt, pumping raw sewage into the rivers and has not invested in infrastructure but siphoned billions.out of the country, its just schadenfreude on my part wanting to watch her jump through hoops as she desperately tries to convince us it's not a failure.....I just want to watch and laugh at it, christ knows there isn't much else we can do at this point
@sarahbarrett1247
@sarahbarrett1247 4 ай бұрын
I’m sure she knew exactly that this would happen but she didn’t care. As long as shareholders make as much money out of the general public she will rest happy. We’re not citizens, we’re cash machines for their schemes.
@lukedinsmoreharris3068
@lukedinsmoreharris3068 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Thatcher 👍
@waltereaton6404
@waltereaton6404 4 ай бұрын
Why are shareholder benefiting from the failure of the water companies top perform their normal duties? What kind of a contract do they have that allows profit to the company while failing to do what they are supposed to do? Who on earth agreed this contract.
@alantheinquirer7658
@alantheinquirer7658 4 ай бұрын
Ah, the joys of privatisation. In order to actually do their job correctly, the water companies want to massively increase their prices. Of course they have to - otherwise they'll not have 'record breaking' profits for shareholders.
@davidhooper1767
@davidhooper1767 4 ай бұрын
It wouldnt be off the front pages if it were a Labour Government letting this happen.
@aribrahim1898
@aribrahim1898 4 ай бұрын
It depends, because if they have been compromised by Rupert Murdoch, like Tony Blair or Keir Stramer, the reaction would be similar. They are exactly the same as the Tories.
@RenegadeMaster137
@RenegadeMaster137 4 ай бұрын
@@aribrahim1898That’s demonstrably false though, isn’t it. Every labour scandal - most of which pale in comparison to your average Tuesday under Tory rule - was all over the papers.
@tecdesigns8183
@tecdesigns8183 4 ай бұрын
The government do not want to effect water company profits.
@drake128
@drake128 4 ай бұрын
All the money given in dividends but not spent on updating the network and infrastructure.
@MrChezlor
@MrChezlor 4 ай бұрын
Polluting the rivers & then paying the fines is cheaper than disposing and treating the waste. Reverse that system and maybe it won’t happen… as much.
@jameshansing5396
@jameshansing5396 4 ай бұрын
Either way, it will be us paying not them ..
@monged4life442
@monged4life442 4 ай бұрын
But then the shareholders wouldn't get as much profit, which is clearly the only consideration of this government.
@dantownsend4246
@dantownsend4246 4 ай бұрын
If I’m not mistaken fines are tax deductible
@isbestlizard
@isbestlizard 4 ай бұрын
Because water company shareholders would rather have billions in dividends, than spend billions in investment to prevent sewage being dumped into our rivers. Duh.
@lizdocherty3067
@lizdocherty3067 4 ай бұрын
That's why Sunak built his private swimming pool, doesn't want his family get ill
@richyjay330
@richyjay330 4 ай бұрын
Those governing this country should be imprisoned for making every one else's quality of life to be diminished.
@shawnkeys4712
@shawnkeys4712 4 ай бұрын
It's utterly disgraceful. We have an app that shows whether it's safe to swim in the sea each day. Disgraceful.
@charrogate
@charrogate 4 ай бұрын
Sewage discharge is largely an invisible issue to most. Out of sight, out of mind 🤔
@PaulK-ve1pu
@PaulK-ve1pu 4 ай бұрын
Privatise the profit, nationalise the debt. Twas always the Tory way.
@phil637
@phil637 4 ай бұрын
Fine them £5000 an hour
@jhwheuer
@jhwheuer 4 ай бұрын
Way too cheap. Try 100k
@Kurwajegomac
@Kurwajegomac 4 ай бұрын
And who do you think is gonna foot the bill in the end? Water companies or customers?
@Wut3225
@Wut3225 4 ай бұрын
@@KurwajegomacWe know the answer according to Thames Water
@johnrussell3961
@johnrussell3961 4 ай бұрын
They would make us fund it via higher charges.
@PrinceRules64
@PrinceRules64 4 ай бұрын
​@@johnrussell3961The most straightforward first step would be to make all fines chargeable to shareholder profits and not to customer costings. That would make them sit up and pay attention.
@martindornan1667
@martindornan1667 4 ай бұрын
The chief executive officer of the Themes Water company said to the BBC that water bills will have to go up by 40% by 2030 to fund essential improvements to infrastructure. Themes water shareholders and management took the money that should have been invested in the infrastructure of Themes Water and also increased the company debt up to £18 billion while paying themselves massive dividends. The weak water regulator and the Tory government allowed the mainly foreign owners to do this. Now Themes Water want the public to pay again to fix the massive problems with the old leaking infrastructure at Themes water, service and pay off the £18 billion of debt that was loaded on to the company by its mainly foreign owners.
@highlandcow4765
@highlandcow4765 4 ай бұрын
Why is sewage discharge statistics given in hours,not volume.
@Mybigfinger_69
@Mybigfinger_69 4 ай бұрын
Imagine if that was Beckton, Riverside and Crossness hours 😂
@marktucker208
@marktucker208 4 ай бұрын
The best part of it all is that there’s no consequences for anyone who’s responsible for this, the people who have to deal with the consequences are the same people who pay the bills
@fintamaria2429
@fintamaria2429 4 ай бұрын
Shareholders enjoy making money from this😢😢
@andrewtrip8617
@andrewtrip8617 4 ай бұрын
Welsh water do it as well and they have no shareholders !
@fintamaria2429
@fintamaria2429 4 ай бұрын
@@andrewtrip8617 We can make excuses and point the finger in other directions if it will help you sleep better. But reality is reality.
@rayglenister9799
@rayglenister9799 4 ай бұрын
@@fintamaria2429There is more than one reality.
@allanmacdougall8334
@allanmacdougall8334 4 ай бұрын
Privatisation of water leads inexorably to an effluent society.
@terrytopliss9506
@terrytopliss9506 4 ай бұрын
All the privatised companies bother about is paying shareholder. Now these same companies are saying is the consumers will have to pay for the modernisation with higher bills.
@RunPJs
@RunPJs 4 ай бұрын
That's a lot of sewage. 1% of that was probably from Coffey
@johnrussell3961
@johnrussell3961 4 ай бұрын
Make sewage whilst the sun shines…then flush into rivers when it rains.
@michaelathanasiou2030
@michaelathanasiou2030 4 ай бұрын
Did you know the UK was taken to the European court for over polluting river and the sea back when they were last in government (O'Moron won't tell you that) LOL
@markwelch3564
@markwelch3564 4 ай бұрын
​@@michaelathanasiou2030you mean the EU doesn't think sewage in rivers and on beaches should be acceptable? I am with the EU on this one
@adrien5834
@adrien5834 4 ай бұрын
@@michaelathanasiou2030 Did you know that your post makes no sense at all? Back when who was in government?
@keswickcaravan
@keswickcaravan 4 ай бұрын
Billing for sewage treatment and not providing it is clearly obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception. This is a criminal offence.
@rattlesnakehawkweed1876
@rattlesnakehawkweed1876 4 ай бұрын
The French are now calling us the "Isle De Merde", embarrassing
@adrianred236
@adrianred236 4 ай бұрын
The water companies obviously save a load of money by doing this. And no doubt the bosses get huge bonuses for increased profits.
@stewartdavis8618
@stewartdavis8618 4 ай бұрын
Never forget, Scottish Water is not privatised !!! Have a look at their performance, and the lowest charges in the UK 🙂
@jakkuwolfinsomnia8058
@jakkuwolfinsomnia8058 4 ай бұрын
Water plants and sewage companies should never be private companies and NEVER be paying dividends to shareholders they should be owned by the government and managed like a private company that focuses on sustainability, smart self-investment, financial stability and smooth streamlined processes
@Robbo1966
@Robbo1966 4 ай бұрын
A shocking state of affairs. Privatisation, private equity firms all profit, all greed. It’s gonna change soon
@greenisp
@greenisp 4 ай бұрын
Thames Shareholders refuse to spend 500 Million to help cleanup, Nationolise water then... Or put bills up by 250Mil and force Thames to pay the other 250, fair int it?
@Holycurative9610
@Holycurative9610 4 ай бұрын
People should do what I did. I rang up my water company and said "you won't fix leaks and you continue to pump raw sewage into water course and the sea and you keep hiking my bills whilst providing me nothing for that price hike." I now pay only £5/month and that amount will never go up.
@JelMain
@JelMain 4 ай бұрын
They were given a huge price rise to pay for this, not long after privatisation. That's never been cut back again. How many bites does this monopoly want?
@beardedbloke2521
@beardedbloke2521 4 ай бұрын
I'm going to stay away from seasides and beaches altogether. This is disgusting 🤢
@michaelpegg4288
@michaelpegg4288 4 ай бұрын
So on average each of the 25 water companies pumps sewage into 16 rivers constantly for a whole year...
@decriped
@decriped 4 ай бұрын
Still lost. 365 days so maximum of 8750 hours per company. You'd need 410 water companies pumping 24/7 to get to 3.6m hours ?
@Dan_does_reels
@Dan_does_reels 4 ай бұрын
I think rather than using number of water companies you use number of rivers.with the roughly 1500 rivers you have a potential of 13m hours a year ​add on beaches this number doubles @@decriped
@dannylad1600
@dannylad1600 4 ай бұрын
​@@Dan_does_reels I think it's the number of discharge points that you multiply by. I think theres probably hundreds of them of not thousands around the UK.
@annehoward140
@annehoward140 4 ай бұрын
The government would not want to upset the shareholders, the price of privatisation of utilities
@TranquiloTrev
@TranquiloTrev 4 ай бұрын
The bigger problem is the quality of the water we drink. Is it governed by the same water company's ? Before privatisation, local authorities used to be responsible for regular testing of the water that comes from our taps. It could be that we are being poisoned by these same water companies. Does anyone know ?
@CliffordSullivan-fj7jv
@CliffordSullivan-fj7jv 4 ай бұрын
Always boil it first I,m afraid!....its dodgy here Severn Water Area..
@TranquiloTrev
@TranquiloTrev 4 ай бұрын
@@CliffordSullivan-fj7jv There used to be a statutory requirement about the water quality in the UK. I had a career as a Public Health official, so I knew. It seems that gone as well ? Why are the Torys trying to destroy the UK ?
@ecaeas4439
@ecaeas4439 4 ай бұрын
​@@TranquiloTrev This requirement for safe drinking water hasn't been removed. Water companies are legally required to treat all water that goes back into people's homes through the mains water supply. It's not outside the realms of possibility to believe that if they can't get sewage treatment right, they're not getting the part of making our tap water safe either but there hasn't been any widespread issues with tap water being unsafe in the Uk. This is because they primarily treat it with chlorine & ultraviolet light.
@MrManBuzz
@MrManBuzz 4 ай бұрын
​@@TranquiloTrev Because they're state vandals. They don't believe in a state that exists to serve normal people. Normal people are parasites and the services that exist to serve them are a waste of money. Better that money be spent on the people who deserve it. Their betters. The fact there is still a sizable percentage of people who will vote Tory or Reform says a lot doesn't it? These people are too far gone. In that sense, I can understand why Tories look down on them with contempt, in some ways it's deserved. And the rest of us are dragged along looking on in horror.
@TranquiloTrev
@TranquiloTrev 4 ай бұрын
@@ecaeas4439 Years ago I used to test tap water to make sure it was up to the required standard. This was in the 1970's and 1980's. It wasn't always. No-one should assume it is. We may see the results of it not being up to standard in years to come, and not now. The water requirements were only bacteriological not chemical. James and everyone else makes assumptions about the standards. Those assumptions are almost certainly incorrect. One assumption that everyone used to make was that bottled water had some sort of hygienic standard. It doesn't. It was not governed by the Food Safety Legislation at the time. I have read that there is COVID in our tap water. This is believable.
@melvynkersley-nc8fx
@melvynkersley-nc8fx 4 ай бұрын
Because they have never improved the system in line with the increase in population,dare I say just to keep shareholders happy,and now we are going to have to pay to improve it!🤔🤷🏼‍♂️🤬!
@alexb5815
@alexb5815 4 ай бұрын
They have built up huge debts, refinanced and paid dividends and bonuses so that they cannot easily be renationalised and completely in self interest
@samanthalawson9485
@samanthalawson9485 4 ай бұрын
Fergal Sharkey has been trying to bring awareness to the state of our water ways for years! It’s old news James.
@davidpopp1963
@davidpopp1963 4 ай бұрын
They will do something about it when we have to close the Cornish beaches in the summer holidays
@jonloudin4857
@jonloudin4857 4 ай бұрын
I’m an American with a soft spot for Britain, as it is the old country to both sides of my family. But Britain is looking increasingly like a third world country because of the polluted water, widespread poverty, a broken NHS, a failing education system, it goes on and on. Britain needs a change of government, and the public utilities should never have been privatized. I still believe in the UK but I hope the British people truly take back control from the clowns who wrecked the country.
@jamesdunn7564
@jamesdunn7564 4 ай бұрын
3.6 million hours is equal to just under 411 hours of sewage being pumped out per actual hour of time in the year
@Xenophaige_reads
@Xenophaige_reads 4 ай бұрын
So that's 411 points in the country pumping sewage continuously for the whole year. Just to give an idea of quantity.
@PKWeaver74
@PKWeaver74 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing the maths I presumed he had made a mistake!
@Xenophaige_reads
@Xenophaige_reads 4 ай бұрын
@@PKWeaver74 there are obviously more than 411 sewage exits in the country, but thought this would be helpful.
@Mybigfinger_69
@Mybigfinger_69 4 ай бұрын
Thames Water have 135 treatment plants that cannot treat capacity on a daily basis.
@alexanderson8701
@alexanderson8701 4 ай бұрын
Corruption takes *many* forms ... This is *one* of them.
@jamesjukebox2386
@jamesjukebox2386 4 ай бұрын
Third world country!
@clivesmith9377
@clivesmith9377 4 ай бұрын
Possibly 4th by election time.
@Near_Void
@Near_Void 4 ай бұрын
@@clivesmith9377 I dont think this country can survive if the Tories are elected again
@jamesjukebox2386
@jamesjukebox2386 4 ай бұрын
Yeh, it is shocking the standard here in all things.@@clivesmith9377
@PLl-jr8xi
@PLl-jr8xi 4 ай бұрын
Yes because people like james love importing them to england
@Starmer_Crushed_The_Far_Right
@Starmer_Crushed_The_Far_Right 4 ай бұрын
I bet you've never been to a third world country.
@robinsondrob
@robinsondrob 4 ай бұрын
They are pumping money to shareholders and upping the bills
@highmillpickering2470
@highmillpickering2470 4 ай бұрын
It's been quietly allowed and condoned because it's capitalism and privatisation, so it can't be seen to be an abject failure. Ditto railways. NHS enroute.
@adeofbass
@adeofbass 4 ай бұрын
Standard exchange with this govt: "Why is (insert problem area) in such a poor state and failing?" "We have invested (insert meaningless large sum of money) in this area, more than any govt." Why don't we just callenge this more?
@mikejury3632
@mikejury3632 4 ай бұрын
The truth is, and I cannot stress this enough, the current government and in particular Rishi Sunak do not give a single hoot about environmental issues.
@ASOXO
@ASOXO 4 ай бұрын
The country is failing yet rich enterprise is struggling to increase profits so they resort to things like this. Greed.
@davidof766
@davidof766 4 ай бұрын
Why are our water bills so high and they dont treat the sewage we pay for but they pollute our waters. Where is the goverment oversight. Its disgusting.
@Metal_666
@Metal_666 4 ай бұрын
Eating fish has always been at your own risk, especially from local waterways 🤮
@DavidCodyPeppers.
@DavidCodyPeppers. 4 ай бұрын
The reason infrastructure is allowed to collapse in the west due to shareholder enrichment is because the shareholders who benefit are too old/rich to experience the consequences of their decisions. 🕊
@Jon-xw9om
@Jon-xw9om 4 ай бұрын
I've never been too sure how much input people my age and over (60) should have on climate change policy. As you indicate I'll be dead long before the effect of climate change really has a chance of impacting the world. So it's the people left behind who will have to deal with it. Which is wrong.
@AntJD1991
@AntJD1991 4 ай бұрын
Sue them all into oblivion... The government is SO pathetically weak companies laugh at our rules and regulations knowing nothing other than a tiny fine will come their way. A fine so small that it's financially motiviating to take it over doing the job properly.
@Renvaar1989
@Renvaar1989 4 ай бұрын
I mean they're privatized, right? Giving them full incentive to make as much money as possible, and so cut corners. Privatizing UK utilities and basic services what a huge mistake... Look at our trains...
@yt.personal.identification
@yt.personal.identification 4 ай бұрын
Is that a Brexit benefit?
@lizdocherty3067
@lizdocherty3067 4 ай бұрын
It is for shareholders of Thames water.
@aleph8888
@aleph8888 4 ай бұрын
No, this happened when the UK was an EU member. It’s just that journalists don’t want you to realise that.
@chrishartley4553
@chrishartley4553 4 ай бұрын
@@aleph8888 Its actually gotten a lot worse since Brexit.
@yt.personal.identification
@yt.personal.identification 4 ай бұрын
@@aleph8888 So Britain was breaking EU regulations. Nice admission.
@7th.trumpet
@7th.trumpet 4 ай бұрын
What Brexit ???
@ukcomicjunkie7433
@ukcomicjunkie7433 4 ай бұрын
A crime against nature 🤬
@Chigleybus
@Chigleybus 4 ай бұрын
Could it be the same reason that sewage is being allowed to cross the Channel on a daily basis and wash up on the shores of the UK?
@TallDarknGruesome
@TallDarknGruesome 4 ай бұрын
Why is the bank that is the majority owner not liable for damages?
@andrewrobinson2565
@andrewrobinson2565 4 ай бұрын
I'll pass on the local seafood, thanks 😢. 🤢
@lizdocherty3067
@lizdocherty3067 4 ай бұрын
The government will do nothing, how many of the MPs have shares in these companies and need their dividends. Thanes water plans to increase water rates for customers by 40% to pay for sorting this out, but shareholders will keep getting their dividends, sorted Tory style.
@Jon-xw9om
@Jon-xw9om 4 ай бұрын
If we had fewer full time multi millionaires who were also part time MPs then we might get policies tailored for us, not them.
@virtious8
@virtious8 4 ай бұрын
The Tory party and its client media ensures the public's attention and outrage is focused solely on foreigners in small boats and flights to Rwanda. As such other any other issues such as sewage barely registers on the radar.
@jme2310
@jme2310 4 ай бұрын
i think most of it pours out of the Prime Ministers mouth
@someblokecalleddave1
@someblokecalleddave1 4 ай бұрын
They love it, they just don't care just as long as it maximises their profits and enables them to draw down dividends from their share holdings.
@KrisRogos
@KrisRogos 4 ай бұрын
I think the 70% of us planning to not vote Tory at the next election are already doing something about this. But if Just-Stop or Green Peace can get their hands on a slurry tanker and have it discharge in front of No10 gates I'm all in favour.
@pixiedragon83
@pixiedragon83 4 ай бұрын
Vote Green 💚💚💚
@atroxie
@atroxie 4 ай бұрын
love this idea
@user-hv7kt9zc3m
@user-hv7kt9zc3m 4 ай бұрын
Soon the uk will have a brown water ring around it
@adrien5834
@adrien5834 4 ай бұрын
Soon? It has had one for years...
@pixiedragon83
@pixiedragon83 4 ай бұрын
It does...
@marksteel1310
@marksteel1310 4 ай бұрын
I would say it is a Criminal act to release Raw Sewage into our river's and Sea's.
@Coops5361
@Coops5361 4 ай бұрын
To make things worse the Tory's verbal diarrhoea will add to these millions of hours.
@stephenhodgson3506
@stephenhodgson3506 4 ай бұрын
Why do water companies pump raw sewage into our rivers and seas? simple answer IT COSTS MONEY TO TREAT IT and that money if spent reduces the profits of the water companies and with it the bonuses of the senior executives of those companies. The government passed legislation soon after we left the EU to allow them to do this because if we had still been in the EU they would have been stopped from doing it. If we had a competent government, first they wouldn't have allowed them to do it in the first place but there is a very simple solution, for each day that a water company discharges raw sewage into our rivers and seas there will be a 0.5% windfall tax on their profits. The money to be used to help clean up the mess they have created. Privatise the water companies and the service will improve and the cost will come down the Tories told us. The reality the service is much worse than it was and it costs more for that poor service. But we get a bonus as well we get rivers and seas that are unsafe to use because they are filling up with raw sewage just so the water companies can make even more money. The Victorians built a sewage system in the UK to prevent serious diseases and it looks like the Tories in only a few decades are going about destroying that. I wonder who the Tories and corrupt right wing media will blame if there is now a major cholera outbreak in this country?
@MrSmith_
@MrSmith_ 4 ай бұрын
Logically it should, but a few things I believe are the reasons why it is not in the forefront of people's minds: 1) Not talked about enough, simply brushed under the carpet. 2) People not actively looking for the information. 3) That it hasn't affected them personally so they don't think about it. It's a disgrace, core infrastructure should never have been sold off to the highest bidder.
@ryanhamdogg9762
@ryanhamdogg9762 4 ай бұрын
These people need prison time now
@elrickinslayer5821
@elrickinslayer5821 4 ай бұрын
What really brought it home to me was a story about a phone call from the international space station from a Japanese astronaut who said that she was so sad for us here in the UK because she could actually see the islands completely surrounded by a brown ring in the sea.
@sarcasticstartrek7719
@sarcasticstartrek7719 4 ай бұрын
Why would it stop? the Tories are in charge. Of course they haven't done anything.
@jananders1351
@jananders1351 4 ай бұрын
14 years of Tory vandalism and privatised gouging have produced so many huge failures in every service we rely on that people find it almost impossible to isolate one to be angry about. Also being angry is tiring when you're constantly skimping and scraping to make ends meet in your daily existance.
@stormbroke
@stormbroke 4 ай бұрын
How can Southern Water be fined £300,000 for negligence but no single person is held accountable (imprisoned)?
@Shellewell
@Shellewell 4 ай бұрын
Hey now James, it wasn't just into the rivers and seas, a considerable amount also found its way into the government.
@gail25578
@gail25578 4 ай бұрын
Because those in government only care about their own interests, they view the majority as serfs to be exploited like shooting fish in a barrel and this is partly achieved by convincing the fish that the their difficulties are caused by the other fish not those exploiting them.
@TheHamiltonRacing
@TheHamiltonRacing 4 ай бұрын
New housing plays a alarmingly large part in this issue. I was speaking to a civil engineering friend(we went to school together) who works for the water board and he was saying that he doesn't like to tell strangers where he works because he thinks his occupation has been demonized. I asked why he thinks he deserves a break and he told me that the water board can't refuse service to the new housing estates. Also that often councils rely on new housing to increase their income and that's how they stay afloat! So if plans for 200 new homes are being proposed in an area that has no spare capacity and it will take several years and lot of investment to increase the capacity they are still given planning permission and these building company that get rich of these homes in most case contribute zero to the cost of upgrading the infrastructure needed to supply these homes!
@markhayward7400
@markhayward7400 4 ай бұрын
There are two points to make about the privatisation of energy, water, gas, and electricity that highlight how broken the current system is. FIrst, privatisation has been a gravy train for industry executives and shareholders at the expense of the necessary investment in infrastructure and the household bills of customers. Second, and more fundamentally, privatisation has seen what are essential national security assets pass into the hands of foreign owners. This is not only wrong, it is potentially dangerous for this country's future.
@richharper8159
@richharper8159 4 ай бұрын
3.6million hours. If one company had been pumping raw sewage since 1614, the time of James I, and the ‘Crisis of Parliament’. How fitting.
@pixiedragon83
@pixiedragon83 4 ай бұрын
Nothing happened to me that made me realise what a national tragedy this is...i realised this from paying attention to the news, ive been highly aware of this and deeply disturbed by it for YEARS...what i cant understand is why nothing ever changes and it just keeps being allowed...last summer when i cut my fingers on the beach and people around me told me to rinse them in the sea to clean them, suggesting the salt water would help heal them...i felt like i was surrounded by complete imbeciles...people genuinely believe this, even though literally days before there had been an announcement on the news warning people to stay out of the water in that area due to high sewage concentrations...people either dont listen or they dont care...i am constantly highly concerned about this... what i can't understsnd is why other people are not!!!...
@nicolek4076
@nicolek4076 4 ай бұрын
The tories have missed a trick. The NHS waiting list is now so large that it "needs proper management" - an ideal opportunity to put money in the pockets of their cronies.
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