Why is speeding dangerous? Here's a scientific breakdown

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3 жыл бұрын

Speeding is one of the leading causes of traffic deaths and this year the numbers are climbing.
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@jackedrussell
@jackedrussell 8 ай бұрын
Sorry, what? 474ft to stop at 70mph? The UKs highway code, which used a car from 1953 as a benchmark, stopped from 70mph, including reaction time, in 315ft. A modern car can do it in less than half that. In fact, my car from 1995 can stop from 140mph in about 380ft including reaction time. I agree that speeding is dangerous if you don't have appropriate training, but this is all wrong.
@NotExpatJoe
@NotExpatJoe 2 ай бұрын
In science we use tried and true formulas to find out the stopping distance of a vehicle. s = (0.278 × t × v) + v² / (254 × (f + G)) Where... s - Stopping distance in meters; t - Perception-reaction time in seconds; v - Speed of the car in km/h; G - Grade of the road, expressed as a decimal. Positive for an uphill and negative for a downhill; f - Coefficient of friction between the tires and the road No matter how I enter the numbers, a modern mass production car cannot stop from 140 mph in 380 feet regardless of the reaction time. The real stopping distance from 140 mph on dry pavement and a reaction time of 1.5 seconds is over 1,245 feet. This is calculated assuming good tires, brakes, and perfect road surface. Without breaking the laws of physics, what you claim is impossible.
@jackedrussell
@jackedrussell 2 ай бұрын
@@NotExpatJoe 1. If your reaction time is 1.5 seconds, you will fail your driving test. The average reaction time (seeing something happen, then actually responding to it) is about 450ms. 2. Your numbers don't matter when there are real world examples of that being done. Look up the video "Stopping Distances: Real World vs Highway Code" That car was consistently able to stop in around 50% shorter distance than what the highway code states. At 70mph, it was able to stop in 130ft. 130ft x 2 + 5% is 273ft. The extra 5% is for margin of error. Throw in the travel distance for the reaction time which at 140mph is 92ft, brings the stopping distance up to 365ft. 3. The stopping distance taking 1245ft is approximately an average of 0.29g braking force. A modern car with, as you say, good tyres, brakes and perfect road service, is able to brake at about 1g. If it's a performance car with a lot of downforce, that can be as high as 1.3g at higher speeds, slowly coming down to 1g at lower speeds.If your car has a maximum braking force of 0.29g, your car is unsafe to drive on the road and you need to get it repaired immediately without driving it. It needs to be towed. 4. I've actually done that and measured it. I had the opportunity to drive on a runway long enough to get up to that speed and then stop again without crashing. Unfortunately I didn't record it but my 1995 Lexus LS400 with Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres and EBC Ultimax2 discs and pads was able to stop in 380ft from 140mph.
@NotExpatJoe
@NotExpatJoe 2 ай бұрын
@@jackedrussell Quoted from driver manual; "It takes drivers approximately 1.5 seconds to see a hazard and recognize it. This is called perception time. Next, it takes a driver approximately one second to physically react, take their foot off the accelerator, and put it on the brakes. This is reaction time." When you add perception time and reaction time together, it is often over 2.5 seconds. I haven't watched the test, I will, but I am already thinking they are not including perception time in the test. I can react extremely fast when I know I am being tested, not so much when I am day dreaming about titties and not paying attention. 😅
@NotExpatJoe
@NotExpatJoe 2 ай бұрын
@@jackedrussell I watched the test you referenced but their results are completely useless. He was on a set course with neither perception or reaction time taken into account. They elimated most of the variables so, of course the test results showed a shorter stopping distance than the highway code test.
@jackedrussell
@jackedrussell 2 ай бұрын
@@NotExpatJoe I took the fact that the stopping distance in that video didn't t have any reaction times into account and added an extra 93ft to the total. The average perception-reaction time according to multiple studies is 0.65 seconds. The only places I could find that said 1.5 seconds is replies on Quora, which isn't exactly the best source of information. Harvard is far more trustworthy than a website that says it's safe to mix bleach and ammonia. But going on what you say, that's 496ft at 1.5 seconds. Or more conveniently for you because you've increased it to 2.5 seconds now, 591ft. Still less than half of what you said is impossible without breaking the laws of physics. If your reaction time is genuinely that slow, stop driving immediately. At 20mph, it would take you 73ft or 5 car lengths to react to someone stepping out in front of you while you're driving in a school zone. If you're in a residential zone, it would be 110ft or 7 car lengths. If you're 100% serious about your reaction time being 2.5 seconds, you're going to end up killing someone one day. By the time you've realized someone has walked out in front of you, you would have already hit them at full speed and traveled a good 2-3 car lengths before you're on the brakes.
@Rykeron
@Rykeron 10 ай бұрын
We can’t have drivers with a 2.5sec reaction time
@petebusch9069
@petebusch9069 2 күн бұрын
Most drivers only look about 50 feet in front of their car and is why the reaction times are so bad. Looking as far out as you can and scanning up and down the road prevents all of this. This is actually taught in drivers ed but very few people practice it.
@musk-eteer9898
@musk-eteer9898 Жыл бұрын
drive twice as fast go half as far...said so by some old wise dude
@Mike-sb3rf
@Mike-sb3rf Жыл бұрын
I’m confused with some of these comments bro so y’all are good with speeding?💀
@luchador5341
@luchador5341 7 ай бұрын
yes
@ThatFoo.frmTha713.
@ThatFoo.frmTha713. 7 ай бұрын
@luchador5341 Everyone is “good” with and speeding until the unexpected happens, talking frm experience
@itsjusts_am
@itsjusts_am 7 ай бұрын
@@ThatFoo.frmTha713. there is nothing wrong with traveling at a high rate of speed. That doesn’t kill you. Suddenly coming to a stop does.
@ThatFoo.frmTha713.
@ThatFoo.frmTha713. 6 ай бұрын
@@itsjusts_am yes there is , also u sound stupid. Wait till u have over 10 near crashes n over 30 near death experiences like me then you’ll start thinking n talking differently
@hiljicardrawings3467
@hiljicardrawings3467 6 ай бұрын
@@itsjusts_amstraight from the mouth of a brilliant genius
@allenwiddows7631
@allenwiddows7631 7 күн бұрын
One factor that was not mentioned but needs to be stressed is the distance travelled during that reaction time-during that 1.5-2.5 seconds, the car is essentially out of control, before the driver is able to take action. That is a long way in a big mass of metal…
@ront9459
@ront9459 Жыл бұрын
If speeding is so dangerous, why is the German Autobahn statistically safer than American Interstates? More important than speed is lane discipline. In Germany the slowpokes get out of the left lane whereas in Hillsboro Texas you have everyone doing every speed in every lane with all the crossing patterns that generates.
@ShakaCthulu
@ShakaCthulu 11 ай бұрын
This isn’t Germany. American roads are 19th century compared to German high-speed roadways, German cars have much stricter regulation, and Germans are far more conscientious about following traffic laws...they don’t get their driver’s license from a box of Fruity Pebbles like tailgating lunatic Americans do. And 40% of the Autobahn has speed limits, particularly on stretches w/ higher congestion.
@ViktorNyberg
@ViktorNyberg 11 ай бұрын
You do know that the stretches of the Autobahn that don't have any speed limits have more crashes and deaths than the part with speed limits?
@ront9459
@ront9459 11 ай бұрын
@@ViktorNyberg Certainly speed unrestricted zones have more accidents than speed restricted. The question is how speed unrestricted zones compare to American interstates. I felt much safer on the Autobahn than Hillsboro TX
@petebusch9069
@petebusch9069 2 күн бұрын
@@ShakaCthulu Germans have WAY better training and has nothing to do with the roads. A good driver can handle any type of road with ease.
@H982_FKL
@H982_FKL 4 күн бұрын
Speed doesn't kill. Instantly stopping does.
@joshuachudley1270
@joshuachudley1270 3 ай бұрын
Speeding doesn't kill ANYONE.... a Jeremy Clarkson said, it's not speeding that kills you, it's the sudden stop that gets you
@itsjusts_am
@itsjusts_am 7 ай бұрын
Speeding isn’t the issue. It’s the reckless idiots who drive like they own the road, and people who don’t know what driving is. Example: this video, they act like they know what they’re talking about which is just hilarious
@jmo2366
@jmo2366 Жыл бұрын
💀470 at 70mph bro they dont even have brake pads
@KVSWF
@KVSWF Ай бұрын
I’m doing 70 and a pedestrian pops out from where?!
@Sandra__2q
@Sandra__2q 14 күн бұрын
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@antop4597
@antop4597 6 сағат бұрын
Speed limits are far too old and need updating, modern cars stop in half, maybe more than what these old tests achieved.
@TheWizardGem
@TheWizardGem Жыл бұрын
Wow it's almost like none of this is even remotely true at all
@dereka5017
@dereka5017 Ай бұрын
“We want to give you a real life example.” …proceeds with entirely theoretical model based on several assumptions.
@spongebobsquarepants3770
@spongebobsquarepants3770 5 ай бұрын
whoever made this video certainly don’t know how to use their brakes 😂 … by the way, what would be the reason for your vehicle have to come to a COMPLETE stop?
@BetterCallSauS
@BetterCallSauS 4 ай бұрын
Now try doing that in a big rig.
@moistymonke2254
@moistymonke2254 9 ай бұрын
Ok
@DavidSmith-vm3cu
@DavidSmith-vm3cu 2 ай бұрын
There is no science to this article, despite the title. Just some blurbs a oyt stopping distance. No news here.
@andrewhigdon8346
@andrewhigdon8346 Жыл бұрын
This video misrepresents the facts about the dangers of speeding. The correlation of speed and danger exists by the potential for objects at rest to contribute to a greater DIFFERENCE in speed compared to one car going 60 and another going 80mph. Es it takes longer to stop from higher speeds, but at 70mph the number is 315ft. The only problem with speeding is that other objects are not speeding nearby., and the greater the difference in relative speeds, the greater the risk for serious injury. Contrast this with running a red light, typically incurring a “t-bone” type of accident, and often causing great bodily harm, even at lower speeds. So which is more dangerous, running red lights, or speeding? Law enforcement needs to end it’s obviously tiered and incentivized structure when it comes to rewards and bonuses for headline grabbing arrests and cases. This ALWAYS leads to corruption.
@MichaelRosjidi-fr2mc
@MichaelRosjidi-fr2mc 10 күн бұрын
The cheapest brakes in the world
@hiljicardrawings3467
@hiljicardrawings3467 6 ай бұрын
so your telling me that the soccer moms 4000 pound suburban and my celica with upgraded rotors and pads take the same distance to stop💀
@biznesmen9229
@biznesmen9229 8 ай бұрын
bmw m3/m4 can brake from 70mph to 0 in less than 40 meters (131 ft) so you're telling Americans not to buy American cars, only German ones, right?
@NotExpatJoe
@NotExpatJoe 2 ай бұрын
This doesn't take reaction time into account. When you include reaction time, the stopping distance is closer to 300 feet.
@garicovex1414
@garicovex1414 3 жыл бұрын
за что?за что удалили коментарий.?
@leakyjeep5.9
@leakyjeep5.9 3 жыл бұрын
My old vehicles stop way better than that. Thankfully.
@722Moo
@722Moo 3 жыл бұрын
Raise the driving age to 18
@adamschroeder693
@adamschroeder693 3 жыл бұрын
Hell no
@frostyvr9805
@frostyvr9805 2 жыл бұрын
No
@loganr.666
@loganr.666 Жыл бұрын
Lower the driving age to 15 and make the road test actually challenging. Some of these people need to be off the road and I’m mostly talking about older people. You should have skill and understanding behind the wheel in order to be allowed to drive
@endritbajrami8795
@endritbajrami8795 7 ай бұрын
no
@andressoto739
@andressoto739 6 ай бұрын
​@@loganr.666Leave it at 16 with a challenging evasive driving test. Older than 45 must redo challenging road test. Can't get a license past 65.
@frostyvr9805
@frostyvr9805 2 жыл бұрын
My Camry stops way faster than that
@SuperEman500
@SuperEman500 Жыл бұрын
My Audi S4 has Brembo Ceramic brakes so, it'll stop way before your's as well.
@joewhite8079
@joewhite8079 Жыл бұрын
​@@SuperEman500my volvo has performance breaks not sure on the brand but pulls up in about 38m from 100kmph so 120m is completely incorrect it might be if you have slicks and worm break discs and pads.
@kamaka71
@kamaka71 3 жыл бұрын
Why is heating your home with your car's exhaust dangerous. Film at ten.
@SuperEman500
@SuperEman500 Жыл бұрын
Stopping distance isn't the same for all vehicles, 1:12 so understandably most cars on the road are econo-shitboxes, however not everyone is built the same, my Audi S4 has Brembo Italian High Performance Ceramic Brakes, something you'll never see on some poor asse's Toyota Corolla.
@bahamamama3689
@bahamamama3689 Жыл бұрын
who asked
@ViktorNyberg
@ViktorNyberg Жыл бұрын
Why are you assuming that the brakes on your car is the weakest link? Tires and surface might make your expensive brakes as good as a rusty Lada.
@KayLa-sq7cv
@KayLa-sq7cv 6 ай бұрын
You have no idea how brakes work those breaks are for going around track depositing loads of heat which there designed to handle. as far as stopping distance is concerned they may only give you a couple of meters over the eco box.
@SuperEman500
@SuperEman500 3 ай бұрын
@@KayLa-sq7cv Haha, no these brakes are designed for autobahn use, going from 155 to 80 in a blink.
@sourabsharma9749
@sourabsharma9749 2 жыл бұрын
cute girl not all cars are same think of supercars with extreme braking
@cbrshiva6762
@cbrshiva6762 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if u r car is a supercar and has extreme braking technology and safety features will make your car safe when you hit extreme high speed none of that will help u except momentum to kill u. Ask any professional drivers drive safe my friend
@sourabsharma9749
@sourabsharma9749 Жыл бұрын
@@cbrshiva6762 bro you are momentum can kill you but think of straight line driving there could be many situations but mostly higways are straight if you see cars runnning on Autobahn where you have no speed limits many drivers manage to do emergency Slow downs from higher speeds this could be a more than 100kph slow down in few Seconds but if you drive a low end car on high speeds momentum surely kills you. there is big difference between a XL Heavy Duty and CBR in terms of stopping.
@SuperEman500
@SuperEman500 Жыл бұрын
@@cbrshiva6762 Nope, Brembo Ceramic Brakes have a MUCH shorter distance when braking in extreme situations, I have a Audi RS5 so i know this personally.
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