Why is the George Harrison estate ignoring and intimidating Bobby Whitlock?

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John Heaton

John Heaton

3 жыл бұрын

Forgot to mention Joey Molland…another person they could have interviewed

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@BW-CC
@BW-CC 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you all for your heart warming comments, we appreciate them all. And to John Heaton for his support.
@rockers7889
@rockers7889 Жыл бұрын
I hope you get a check in the mail
@johnblood3731
@johnblood3731 3 жыл бұрын
Love bobby and Coco's videos. Hurt for them. Bobby is the most loving and respectful people on tube. Never says a bad word about anyone. He tells a story of someone who killed his dog and he does not mention their name. And bobby sings, plays, wrights, and tells the greatest stories like no one else. Peace and love
@ericfaley9019
@ericfaley9019 9 ай бұрын
There are rumors that Clapton and Bobby had? A pretty riff between them. Rumor is Clapton bought all the rights from Bobby from the Layla album. I’m pretty sure Clapton had his hand in it in the background. Clapton became a superstar. George already was. Bobby, he is just a musician in there eyes. I’ve watched some of Bobby’s accounts from the Derrick and the Dominoes and all things must pass sessions. In both his KZfaq channel and from previous interviews. The stories are different. So they may have felt Bobby is unreliable. I saw one interview where Bobby states that the group was invited to go see the Almond brothers . After the show Eric asked them to come back and Jam. Bobby states in another interview they were done with recording that day and decided to see the Almond brothers. Then Duane became a hired musician.
@alexdiachok6597
@alexdiachok6597 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! The continued mistreatment of Bobby is so disheartening and upsetting. Over the past year, watching his videos has given me so much joy. I agree that they should reprint the sleeve notes and save the reputations. The fans, Bobby Whitlock, let alone music history, deserve the truthful recollection of this amazing music. Love all your videos, keep them coming.
@lifeonanotherplanet
@lifeonanotherplanet 3 жыл бұрын
Well put. Bobby Whitlock's contribution to ATMP and Layla has been sadly under appreciated. His channel is a goldmine of great memories.
@gnutube
@gnutube 3 жыл бұрын
The new vinyl edition is £199 - "All Things Must Pass" and on this occasion, so shall I.
@billschwenke790
@billschwenke790 3 жыл бұрын
Saw the Walmart big box set for all of George Harrison's albums for $250, now there is one album with lots additional from those sessions as comparison perhaps
@stonephilips9361
@stonephilips9361 3 жыл бұрын
Good one😂
@TheDriftwoodlover
@TheDriftwoodlover 3 жыл бұрын
So shall many of us.
@raithrover1976
@raithrover1976 2 жыл бұрын
RRP for the basic 3LP edition is £69.99 in the UK.
@docbearmb
@docbearmb 2 жыл бұрын
Well put
@johncoopwood7226
@johncoopwood7226 3 жыл бұрын
Besides being a top-flight musician, Bobby is one outstanding person on every level. His videos, whereby he shares his memories of participating in some of the most iconic rock songs every written, are incredible pieces of information that are of great value to history.
@Alex200294
@Alex200294 3 жыл бұрын
here here. well said
@garychambers5850
@garychambers5850 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Bobby seems like a real nice guy! The kind of guy you wouldn't mind hanging with, and George seen that. I could sit down and listen to Bobby tell stories of days gone by! How they recorded songs, who played what...amazing! God Bless him and his wife Coco ✝⛪🤎
@julieverdusco5402
@julieverdusco5402 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of him
@plectroman
@plectroman 2 жыл бұрын
@@julieverdusco5402 never too late to learn.
@rca88
@rca88 2 жыл бұрын
@@julieverdusco5402 look at the All Things Must Pass album - Bobby Whitlock plays on almost all of the songs. Here is just one of many videos where Bobby Whitlock talks about George Harrison and ATMP: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f9KKna11sp6on2Q.html
@Deliquescentinsight
@Deliquescentinsight 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is strange how Bobby Whitlock seems to be overlooked in the re-writing of music histories, his soulful Hammond and vocals contributed such a lot to the classic recordings!
@BillMcGirr
@BillMcGirr 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. He was in the thick of it.🎸👍🥃
@MAP448
@MAP448 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention his song-writing!!!
@paulfitz61
@paulfitz61 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing Bobby Whitlock is a musical legend I hope this gets sensibly resolved.
@RickM01
@RickM01 3 жыл бұрын
After Bobby's videos were pulled I decided not to purchase any of the CDs no matter how good the remixes and outtakes may be. I was going to get the 5 CD set after seeing Bobby's enthusiasm for the music but when his videos were pulled, I pulled my support for All Things Must Pass. I am not into corporate censorship, especially of a man (Bobby Whitlock) who is deeply humble, truthful, and happy to share his honesty. The Harrison Estate has done a terrible thing to him no matter the motive. It seems like they just want to make money without a care for how it's done. Really truly, I will say shame on them. Thanks John for posting a video emphasizing some facts from Bobby's pulled videos and supporting Bobby Whitlock in other ways!!!! Much appreciated!!!!!
@Zholobov1
@Zholobov1 3 жыл бұрын
We're living in the material world
@jimofaotearoa3636
@jimofaotearoa3636 3 жыл бұрын
Just the sort of behaviour from Georges estate that George himself would have absolutely loathed. He hated the shenanigans played by "the bass player's" copyright lawyers... this sort of thing exactly. The estate no longer acknowledges the wishes or ethic of the man. It's all about Benjamin Dollars now... not about George Harrison at all...
@lilmoe4364
@lilmoe4364 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly my first thought watching this
@lilmoe4364
@lilmoe4364 3 жыл бұрын
(That this is the kind of behavior George would have loathed.. "Dude, you're being very un-George"..)
@1060michaelg
@1060michaelg 3 жыл бұрын
@@lilmoe4364 John Heaton is right, saying that he doesn't know how much longer Dhani and Olivia can hide behind "It's not us, y'see...it's THEM!!" G'wan!!
@stonephilips9361
@stonephilips9361 3 жыл бұрын
They handed control over to some faceless corporate entity. Sad
@konstantia1607
@konstantia1607 3 жыл бұрын
I watched Bobby and Coco as they warmly remembered ATMP stories. Bobby had the record set that George had originally sent him in his hands. Got me wishing I could splurge on the re-issue, never owned it in any form. Bobby brings so much heart---in his singing, his playing, his conversation. I'd guess that his contribution to this work was gigantic. John, wonderful job laying this out. Let's hope they do make corrections and hang the cost. Take a sad song and make it better---for Bobby and any others who should be shown a little appreciation.
@phillangkau3056
@phillangkau3056 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. What a joke, I can’t believe George would have been ok with this!
@daciuk8
@daciuk8 3 жыл бұрын
Well said John for your support for Bobby.👍🇬🇧👍
@stevehanson5556
@stevehanson5556 3 жыл бұрын
Great production thank you for speaking the truth about Bobby Whitlock he's a great musician a real talent.
@bobhelbig
@bobhelbig 3 жыл бұрын
As a comment on Bobby and Coco's page said, "They behaved very un-George like."
@deand7348
@deand7348 3 жыл бұрын
ha
@tomdumenjich7021
@tomdumenjich7021 3 жыл бұрын
"Catering to the Michael Palins of the world"...now that's what I call a pricing pain point!
@josephr.lejeune4539
@josephr.lejeune4539 2 жыл бұрын
I’m really missing Bobby and Coco a lot. Hey guys, please let us know how you’re doing. This world needs your voices. Best wishes and prayers for everyone involved. May peace prevail.
@jasonspencer5783
@jasonspencer5783 3 жыл бұрын
The bottom line is we got the music all ready in our hearts, no one can charge us a cent, George gave us a message in all his music , Beware of the darkness and isn't it a pity,
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
This is another example of Apple’s and the Individual solo Beatles estate’s separation from their fan base and their confusion and cluelessness over what fans expect, want, and approve of. Another missed opportunity indeed.
@arnesaknussemm2427
@arnesaknussemm2427 3 жыл бұрын
As the saying goes, they know the price of everything but the value of nothing.
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 3 жыл бұрын
well said…i’m pretty fed up Matt
@charleswilmot7612
@charleswilmot7612 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you here, Matt! Love your videos and looking forward to the next one! You and John are my favourite KZfaq personalities discussing the Beatles and 60’s music!
@popgoesthe60s52
@popgoesthe60s52 3 жыл бұрын
@@charleswilmot7612 Thank you, Charles!
@roryb.bellows7828
@roryb.bellows7828 3 жыл бұрын
I understand that the 50th anniversary of All Things Must Pass is something worth commemorating, but there does seem to be more of a concern from the Harrison estate about money-making, rather than overseeing and sharing, in the best way possible, the artistic integrity of George's legacy. Big shout out to you, BTW, Matt. Your KZfaq films, especially on the Fabs, are wonderfully reasoned, informed and articulate. As for you, John, your delivery on every vid you post is sublime...
@boco1951
@boco1951 3 жыл бұрын
Bobby was there and what he said in His videos was great. George would certainly be ashamed at any negative treatment of Bobby Whitlock!
@fritzcat6198
@fritzcat6198 3 жыл бұрын
Please don’t forget to mention Leon Russell being part of this group.
@1060michaelg
@1060michaelg 3 жыл бұрын
Fritz Cat Yes, I forgot myself...Good Catch!
@keithrelf8038
@keithrelf8038 3 жыл бұрын
@@1060michaelg never really understood what the big deal was about that dude
@allthingsfrench1391
@allthingsfrench1391 3 жыл бұрын
Leon Russell had nothing to do with ATMP
@stevebird9510
@stevebird9510 3 жыл бұрын
@@allthingsfrench1391 Leon was involved with the Concert for Bangladesh but not All Things Must Pass. See it isn't difficult to type that out.
@garychambers5850
@garychambers5850 3 жыл бұрын
I think Peter Frampton played on some of the songs but, I dont know if they used the tracks he was on?
@motherlessblues1565
@motherlessblues1565 3 жыл бұрын
I applaud 👏 you John for standing up for accuracy & the simple truth ,,, Bobby Whitlock deserves his due recognition & so does ATMP . It is now a historical point in Western Music and as such is owed all the truth it can be given . This new release the 50th Anniversary needs to be put right and be as accurate as can be , there is no honourable alternative. Thank you again for being a shining light on all this,, 🥂Cheers
@jeemalsoknownasjimhawkins1294
@jeemalsoknownasjimhawkins1294 3 жыл бұрын
One has to wonder if Dhani and/or Olivia knows anything about this? Karma is not just a word, and ignorance of what happens on your behalf is no excuse. Hopefully, someone can remedy this situation. If not, then I have held too high an estimate of their true spirituality. What would George think of this? What would Love do in this situation? Hmmmm.
@thebostonbrawler1
@thebostonbrawler1 3 жыл бұрын
Karma has nothing to do w/ this, Bobby W has already stated that G Harrison was meticulous about royalties and thru Bobby W's tumultuous life (post Harrison) he had always received royalty chks from GH that seemed to always pay bills like lighting or electrics....
@jeemalsoknownasjimhawkins1294
@jeemalsoknownasjimhawkins1294 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebostonbrawler1 Thanks for the clarification. I stand corrected. Cheers.
@JayaMadhavadas
@JayaMadhavadas 2 жыл бұрын
YES,,,,KARMA,,COMES BACK---THEY OFFENDED WHITLOCK NOT A FAIR MENTALITY
@BillMcGirr
@BillMcGirr 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebostonbrawler1 Testament to Harrison’s character. Good to hear it.😊🎸🥃👍
@beegee2718
@beegee2718 2 жыл бұрын
I concur
@MarkP
@MarkP 3 жыл бұрын
Luckily I saw his videos before they were taken down. I didn't see any reason they should have been removed. All he was doing was stating facts about the sessions. And as he says, he was at every single session so he should know. Like you mention, maybe the Harrison estate doesn't want to look bad for not having contacted him earlier for interviews about the album. Just seems odd to me.
@tmo7734
@tmo7734 3 жыл бұрын
There was not ONE good reason for taking down those videos other than to HIDE the embarrassment of what they failed to do - to tell accurate story and to treat Bobby Whitlock, one of the core musicians on that album, with respect. Shame on all of them. George must be turning over in his grave…
@bartoncross-tierney8941
@bartoncross-tierney8941 3 жыл бұрын
@@tmo7734 I get your point. It's clearly made with the Harrison estate left a bit red-faced. For more historical accuracy, George was cremated and his ashes spread in the Ganges. No 'grave'.
@tmo7734
@tmo7734 3 жыл бұрын
@@bartoncross-tierney8941 Thanks for the clarification. While I’m not sure, I suspect it’s almost impossible for someone to turn over in their ashes. Best wishes. Take care…
@susancarter2365
@susancarter2365 3 жыл бұрын
Jim Gordon has been in my life for over 20 years. He remembers everything. The music world is about to find out. Olivia is all about money! George was about the music. ❤️. Bobby is a nice guy from my home state! Amazing musician!
@twinray27
@twinray27 3 жыл бұрын
@@tmo7734 Unless you drop the urn down the stairs....
@bradparker9664
@bradparker9664 8 ай бұрын
Bobby is living history, and can give you details that few, if any others, can at this point. It's disheartening to see the Harrison machine treating him this way. I'm a huge Harrison/Beatles fan, but it's business moguls side of things that besmirch the entire legacy. But in the meantime, Bobby and CoCo are doing a fabulous job of getting his own legacy recorded and available. Great job, as per usual, John. Thank you for drawing attention to this injustice perpetrated against Bobby.
@annstewart9693
@annstewart9693 3 жыл бұрын
his elderly sister in her late 80s had her monthly payments , a gift from george, stopped by his wife and son a year after his death
@ezfist9204
@ezfist9204 3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading about that. Can't Imagine why they'd cut his sister off.
@annstewart9693
@annstewart9693 3 жыл бұрын
selfish greed
@apollomemories7399
@apollomemories7399 3 жыл бұрын
What a dreadful thing to even consider, never mind actually going through with it. Despicable.
@cinematicpassages8884
@cinematicpassages8884 3 жыл бұрын
Olivia and Dhani are a little fishy to me...
@MultiBULLYBEEF
@MultiBULLYBEEF 3 жыл бұрын
And after all the personal promotional work she did for the Beatles in America where she lived before anyone had even heard of the Beatles in America. I believe she received $500 dollars a month which is peanuts till George died then nothing.
@Imsteppenwolf
@Imsteppenwolf 3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to see how often it happens that the estate (that hasn't done any contribution to the artist's work as such, whatsoever) of a deceased artist take it upon themselves to "guard" the artist's legacy, with so much, unduly zeal...
@danielcombs3207
@danielcombs3207 3 жыл бұрын
Estate?
@thebostonbrawler1
@thebostonbrawler1 3 жыл бұрын
Your are the first to touch upon what I have been thinking about... It's all about LIABILITY! Bobby Whitlock is in a similar situation as say Mick Taylor & the STONES. Whitlock & Taylor are obvious heavy contributors to some obviously great works that are now "property" of "Rock n' Roll Corporations. They both were compensated very little for their work. Any actions of these Corps giving these workhorses any creedence of importance or authority would activate the power of so many LAWYERS adept at this sort of "lawsuit thing". A sad & familiar consequence and fallout of a meteoric era in the art of R n' Roll!
@danielcombs3207
@danielcombs3207 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebostonbrawler1 I love Keith Richards rhythm guitar playing that is his strength lead guitar is not. I think anyone who collaborates deserves songwriting credit. Mick Taylor’s time with the Stones was their greatest musical period. With Ron Wood they’re unfortunately more like a really great cover band. They lost their creativity many decades ago. It’s obvious when they keep pumping out live albums and few noteworthy studio albums .
@docbearmb
@docbearmb 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielcombs3207 Truer words were never written.
@danielcombs3207
@danielcombs3207 2 жыл бұрын
@@docbearmb Its unfortunate , because I loved Ronnie’s playing with the Faces . He does what is needed no more no less. Mick Taylor can still play scorching lead guitar. If he could write great original songs and sang better he would have been a bigger star. He didn’t go in for theatrics like Hendrix but what a great guitarist he is and he made every band better. The Stones were lucky to get him when they did he made them the greatest rock and roll band in the world during his tenure with them. God bless Charlie Watts may he Rest In Peace. He was a master drummer.
@frommetoyou1981
@frommetoyou1981 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks as always John, very informative.
@bruceday8464
@bruceday8464 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with the music industry is the people who are in it.
@Robutube1
@Robutube1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks John - a knowledgeable and heartfelt comment on this lamentable turn of events. I came here from Andrew Dixon's live stream and I am delighted at: A) Your spirited defence of Bobby Whitlock and B) The absence of floods of intrusive mid-roll ads you used to have and which drove me away from your channel some time ago.
@EmeraldWoodArchives
@EmeraldWoodArchives 3 жыл бұрын
I love Bobby and Coco's channel. Great storytelling from a guy who was THERE for so much amazing music.
@craigphillips6308
@craigphillips6308 3 жыл бұрын
How I wish I had watched the Bobby Whitlock videos when I had the chance, yet thank you John for acknowledging some of the musicians on the All Things Must Pass Album, and also sharing some of Bobby's memories. What a shame that he was not consulted for this reissue!
@progqueen5952
@progqueen5952 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Bobby got the shaft! Thanks for this and greetings from Illinois!
@jennifergregory4310
@jennifergregory4310 3 жыл бұрын
There was an awesome video John. Very direct, and very much needed. Poor Bobby is getting the short end of the stick. Thanks for calling Olivia and Dhani out on this one. They really need to make this right… Sooner rather than later.
@ralex3697
@ralex3697 Жыл бұрын
Well the duo shafted George’s sister so nothing new here
@JohnNiemsMusic
@JohnNiemsMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I watched Bobby's video on ATMP and it was all positive and heart warming! Good video here John Heaton.
@jltbass56
@jltbass56 3 жыл бұрын
They've got to make this right. Money should be no object. This is history. Even if delays the release. Make it up to the fans for a change. Great review John!
@matthewstreet1961
@matthewstreet1961 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and thoughts John. I was unaware of much if this. If true, I'll say it...shame on the Harrison estate!!! Cheers Matt
@jaysinger535
@jaysinger535 3 жыл бұрын
Bobby should get his credit. He’s a great artist in his own right. Dhani and Olivia need to step up.
@wmbur510
@wmbur510 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks John for that nice wrap up on Bobby Whitlock and his major musical contribution to ATMP and historical knowledge of those sessions. I too am a fan of BW's KZfaq channel and have learned a great deal from him on those classic rock years. I hope like everyone else that Olivia and Dhani make things right with BW before the albums release. Thanks as always for your insight. William, Parker CO
@markprovance8995
@markprovance8995 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Olivia and Dhani should step up - if they can. Remember some years back, George was criticized (as were Olivia and Dhani) for not helping George's sister, Louise, when she was in financial straits? In reality, George DID help Louise, but tax laws in the U.S. set a limit on the amount a person can give to a family member (than a spouse or children), before it's considered a gift and subject to taxation. Giving a larger amount of money to Louise would have resulted in a tax on her, which George wouldn't be allowed to pay on her behalf.
@jaysinger535
@jaysinger535 3 жыл бұрын
@@markprovance8995 Right.
@hansquire
@hansquire 3 жыл бұрын
@@markprovance8995 actually George's sister declared that she was cut-off from the pension after George's death and that she was not informed about George illness until a couple of days before George's death.
@TeleNikon
@TeleNikon 3 жыл бұрын
It is possible the Harrisons are out of touch.
@johngallaghermusic9777
@johngallaghermusic9777 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting this. I watched both Bobby and Cocos videos on this and did find it strange that they had spoken to the Harrison estate and then on the later video, one of them had been taken down. I don't know who is supposed to have a say over credits but if it's down to Danni and Olivia then they should be grown up about it and rectify it. If it's down to the label, which is likely, then it has to change and the Bobby and anyone else who hasn't been properly credited needs to be. I won't be surprised if the latter is true and it doesn't get sorted. Another case of musicians getting short-changed as usual.
@bcrater6400
@bcrater6400 3 жыл бұрын
"It's all too much." Thank you for the perspective...and I agree whole heartedly with your assessment. and FYI, my comment on Bobby's channel about your video....got Taken Down. Strange days indeed...
@whitehair8824
@whitehair8824 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!!! This is incredible!!! You just backed the right horse...
@markwestervelt9708
@markwestervelt9708 3 жыл бұрын
Well said. Agree 100 percent. 👍
@pictonpig2446
@pictonpig2446 3 жыл бұрын
I had also seen the videos before they removed. them. The only thing I could surmise, as the reason for the "estate" having them taken down, was that Bobby's factual recollection differed from what they had already finalized, packaged, and released for sale to those with too much money to blow on such things. They screwed up on the facts and it's easier these days to silence the truth rather than admit error and remedy their mistakes. Bobby and CoCo are good folks above this sort of crap. Wish I'd have stayed in Texas instead of moving back to California in the hopes of meeting them. Appreciate that you addressed this John!
@larryn2682
@larryn2682 3 жыл бұрын
They give the impression they are still in Texas, but have moved a few hours west of Austin.
@bcrater6400
@bcrater6400 3 жыл бұрын
well said
@NickNicometi
@NickNicometi 2 жыл бұрын
@@larryn2682 A few hours west of Austin can still land in Texas.
@djtoona
@djtoona 2 жыл бұрын
"They screwed up on the facts and it's easier these days to silence the truth rather than admit error and remedy their mistakes" And can you imagine a sentiment more antithetical to the good-guy image that attached itself (mostly deservedly) to George Harrison?
@charsibaba6960
@charsibaba6960 3 жыл бұрын
Good on you John ...... What I find unsettling is them "asking" Bobby and CoCo to take down their videos on the subject.
@gevowavemagnet
@gevowavemagnet 3 жыл бұрын
Bobby's a pain in the ass too a lot of these people because, 50 years later, he's still alive and trying to set the record straight.
@billschwenke790
@billschwenke790 3 жыл бұрын
I still like Gary Wright's Dream Weaver even if he's trying to take undue credit
@randalclarke5487
@randalclarke5487 3 жыл бұрын
His KZfaq videos are complete pointless drivel, imo
@clutchcargo5259
@clutchcargo5259 3 жыл бұрын
Set the record straight 😆😅🤣
@allthingsfrench1391
@allthingsfrench1391 3 жыл бұрын
@@randalclarke5487 jealousy... hahaha
@randalclarke5487
@randalclarke5487 3 жыл бұрын
@@allthingsfrench1391 jealous of what??? He talks weird, sue me
@jamesgriffithsmusic
@jamesgriffithsmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting John...the mind boggles.
@AndrewDixonMusic
@AndrewDixonMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting analysis and info John, thanks.
@jameshirth7972
@jameshirth7972 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I hadn't bought the 50th ATMP, I will stand with Bobby and CoCo!
@robnamowicz8073
@robnamowicz8073 3 жыл бұрын
"Sue you, Sue Me Blues,," Gosh lawyers are a handy bunch, eh? Always got their hand out,,,,
@ShamanMirror
@ShamanMirror 3 жыл бұрын
I too will not be buying any of the new "product"..... not only because it's insultingly overpriced, but also because of the treatment of Bobby Whitlock. Here's a hint lawyers...and Olivia & Dhani: Thousands of us already saw Bobby's videos, the word is out. You can't bury it. YOU have the chance here and now to make things right - not to cover anything up.
@keriford54
@keriford54 2 жыл бұрын
You're not missing much, the remixes are no good.
@ShamanMirror
@ShamanMirror 2 жыл бұрын
@@keriford54 From what I've heard I agree... unfortunately. Sounds like someone mixed it in their bedroom on cheap insufficient monitors and didn't know how to properly EQ anything anyway. Embarassing.
@erniefernandez1927
@erniefernandez1927 3 жыл бұрын
Amen John! -You calling it out like You, me and everyone who see it👍
@larryn2682
@larryn2682 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the concise and well articulated opinion on this situation. I am American, but have Heaton ancestry on my mother's side.
@timalexwar
@timalexwar 3 жыл бұрын
I am so glad that you posted your excellent critique. I hope Dhani and Olivia see it. I wonder what George must be thinking of this. I appreciate you John. Thank you for this and for all your work.
@danielcombs3207
@danielcombs3207 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen Bobby and Coco’s KZfaq channel and he never said one unkind word about George or the sessions. Other than to explain that certain artists claims about their contribution to the album was incorrect. Very stupid for this organization to strong arm one of the artist that was actually there and played on almost every track and acknowledges the ones he wasn’t playing on. Bobby is one of the few players left who can remember the sessions.
@garyfield56
@garyfield56 3 жыл бұрын
....FREE BOBBY !!!!
@waynej2608
@waynej2608 3 жыл бұрын
Especially, since guys like Clapton and Ringo, were a tad unreliable on remembering, due to their intake of 'substances', at the time. I had a good laugh, at that one.
@continentalgin
@continentalgin 3 жыл бұрын
Right on, and Bobby never takes any undue credit. He's honest as can be and a gentle soul, like George.
@thebostonbrawler1
@thebostonbrawler1 3 жыл бұрын
@@waynej2608 Don't forget-Bobby W was consuming his fair share of the same....
@rd350c
@rd350c 2 жыл бұрын
Bobby posted a video decrying what a bad mix the latest release is and it was taken down in a matter of days. www.noise11.com/news/bobby-whitlock-tears-shreds-off-george-harrisons-50th-all-things-must-pass-20210810
@stingylizard
@stingylizard 2 жыл бұрын
Bummer to learn this,especially as it's now old news. Thanks for the d lo,hope it worked out nicely. Something is really wrong with your soul if you can't get along with Bobby or CoCo...
@firecatfly
@firecatfly 3 жыл бұрын
I wish there ws a new albun coming from Bobby Whitlock of just his incredible jams and recollections. His channnel is so much fun and he's the best of people. That might be more appealing than a remix that did not involve George. The original version was perfection, why are they fooling with it?
@Ian_Jules
@Ian_Jules 3 жыл бұрын
People have been asking for "de-Spectorized" remix for decades. Can't please everyone, I guess.
@candelise
@candelise 3 жыл бұрын
The Spector mix Is the charm of the album. What other record sounds like it? It didn't exactly hinder the record sales either!
@firecatfly
@firecatfly 3 жыл бұрын
@@candelise I totally agree. Charm is a great description of the whole mix.
@pipperlou6753
@pipperlou6753 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I’m a little embarrassed to tell you that it was the Utube algorithm that brought you to my attention. As much as the algorithm irritates me with the out there suggestions, sometimes they bring me true gems. Both you and Bobby Whitlock now have another subscriber. Keep fighting the good fight.
@danielcombs3207
@danielcombs3207 2 жыл бұрын
I listened to All Things Must Pass on Spotify and a small blue tooth speaker and it sounded fine . But I haven’t heard it through a good stereo system on cd or vinyl and apparently that is where the problem lies. It seems from what I’m hearing the remastering of the album wasn’t very well done. The way Phil Spector recorded the album with all that heavy reverb I wouldn’t think it would be possible to totally strip away Spector’s production without stripping away some of the instrumentation. I would like to hear the vinyl version to compare it to the original version but I don’t think I want to spend the big bucks. I don’t appreciate the way Bobby Whitlock is being treated , by pulling down his videos describing the way the album developed , who played on different songs and his opinion of it fans are losing a piece of rock history. It’s really a shame .
@hankwedelmusic9965
@hankwedelmusic9965 3 жыл бұрын
That Bobby has been publicly telling the stories like a Village Elder, complete with breaking into divine laughter and song, very publicly online for the past year or so without Apple or ANYONE in Beatles Inc paying serious attention is somehow… very cool… VERY George…
@mer101010
@mer101010 3 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this....❤️
@lathedauphinot6820
@lathedauphinot6820 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. Really. You have nothing to gain except to do the right thing. Respect to you, sir.
@peteburton9216
@peteburton9216 3 жыл бұрын
Great video John - totally agree with the sentiments you express. ATMP is arguably George’s definitive statement and absolutely worthy of being treated to the same format as the recent Plastic Ono Band and Imagine boxes for example. While not cheap, those two feel like labours of love, offer fascinating new listening experiences and insights and are simply fantastic to get lost in - in my view great value. The ATMP 50th Anniversary by contrast is shaping up to feel like one big missed opportunity with more than a whiff of ‘what can we get away with’ rip-off…
@chrisguido1858
@chrisguido1858 3 жыл бұрын
Sad really, thank you John, for providing this update Cheers
@sbrenner2561
@sbrenner2561 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it a pity Isn't it a shame How we break each other's hearts And cause each other pain. . Bobby's a good man, doesn't deserve to be hurt by Olivia and Dhani.
@BillMcGirr
@BillMcGirr 2 жыл бұрын
Just got the 50th of All things… Enjoying it very much.😊👍🎸
@ralex3697
@ralex3697 Жыл бұрын
@@BillMcGirr Will you be buying the 60th and 70th anniversary editions ? George will be reincarnated on the 100th anniversary edition. He will promote it himself.
@jeffersonspace
@jeffersonspace 3 жыл бұрын
I always tell people when I see them doing wrong "tell your lawyer to see your therapist." (I work at a park in Miami, FL). Bless
@fittobetiedyed5315
@fittobetiedyed5315 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched Bobby's video and was thinking of doing a follow-up on my channel, when I noticed your entry here. Its a travesty that Bobby wasn't included on the ground floor of this ATMP re-issue and now the thing already has a tarnish on it in my view. I think you've nailed it with your rationale for why Bobby's videos have been taken down. In my opinion, they should delay the issue of this anniversary set long enough to get the facts right, rather than knowingly issue something they know isn't right.
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 3 жыл бұрын
well said Paul let’s hope eh?
@jltbass56
@jltbass56 3 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@musicauthority7828
@musicauthority7828 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's record companies for ya.
@Jeff-bz6jp
@Jeff-bz6jp Жыл бұрын
Tje videos are back up. I watched a few yesterday that were focused on ATMP and Bobby's input.
@justinbradfield6499
@justinbradfield6499 3 жыл бұрын
Well Done Thank You Sir !!!!!!
@philosophicalsounds.2111
@philosophicalsounds.2111 3 жыл бұрын
You are spot on John. Great commentary.
@dennismason3740
@dennismason3740 3 жыл бұрын
I met George in 1977. Please don't mistake "the Estate" for George.
@jenniferw4068
@jenniferw4068 3 жыл бұрын
But George directed and controlled his estate/ assets.
@UncleWiggy252
@UncleWiggy252 3 жыл бұрын
So many great contributors to the arts have been misrepresented or ignored for many many years. Much of this is due to contracts hastily signed and artists being "owned" by competing labels. It didn't stop them from working or performing together but it did make it difficult to put it in print, especially on an album cover! Thus, many credits were never acknowledged. But, many of these artists and performers were aware of this at the time and it didn't stop them from their art. Behold the "lowly" session musicians who gave the "hits" so many famous licks and lines. Talking about the likes of Carol Kay, Bruce Langhorne, Leland Sklar...my word, I could go on forever here.
@MrBlaser51
@MrBlaser51 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you John for your insight !!!!!
@jamesscraper3779
@jamesscraper3779 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this information about the 'cover-up'' out there. Bobby Whitlock is just giving his knowledge of his experience during these sessions which contradicts the George Harrison's estates view. I too will not be interested in these new mixes unless they give Bobby his due.
@deand7348
@deand7348 3 жыл бұрын
I love Bobby Whitlock's KZfaq Channel. Wow interesting stuff . I can never get enough of All Things Must Pass so thanks!
@garymyersgarym6434
@garymyersgarym6434 Жыл бұрын
Grate take on this issue,also Bobby was left out of the concert for George also. So sad.
@darinmacfarlane5483
@darinmacfarlane5483 3 жыл бұрын
Well said John!👍
@xtstevie
@xtstevie 3 жыл бұрын
50 years on yet certain egos still get in the way..... Bobby said & done absolutely nothing wrong here but do you know what i believe the guy probably wishes he did now!!! Disgraceful behaviour from the Harrison estate which makes the £850 price-tag for the special box set plus the lesser releases still badly overpriced grate even more now!!!
@patgibbons1011
@patgibbons1011 3 жыл бұрын
So weird! Great question and discussion / musings.
@fullcircle3357
@fullcircle3357 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like arrogance and greed to me screw the harrison estate
@tommilievemaa498
@tommilievemaa498 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and very good points there John!
@NickNicometi
@NickNicometi 2 жыл бұрын
If not for Bobby Whitlock's YT channel, I'd have known nothing of his contributions to D&B, D&D, & ATMP. His obscurity to this 55 yr old is more a sad statement on record labels fame than on my own ignorance. I am now a HUGE Whitlock fan!
@mmhp989
@mmhp989 3 жыл бұрын
Nailed it!! Shitty to know we won’t get deep dive session info. They had an extra year as well. Wow…
@stephenz43
@stephenz43 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Well done !
@mjrchapin
@mjrchapin 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. You are quite right, and yes, shame on Olivia and Dhani. Clearly they're all about the $ and cashing in, as well as not even understanding the contributions of all the talent that made that music a success.
@jamess7626
@jamess7626 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John, for this. Well stated. We are all mystified by the handling of some of this. I was willing to pay 150.00, but now I'm not so sure. I read a lot of these comments and they are all so good. Hope this oversight about Bobby Whitlock, and probably others, is rectified. Otherwise, I won't be spending this kind of money.
@monkwhitley
@monkwhitley 2 жыл бұрын
Why have all the videos with Bobby and Coco regarding ATMP 50th anniversary been wiped???? It's disgraceful . Talk about a nanny state. His recollections of these sessions are priceless..I totally agree with this posting.
@Pjaypt
@Pjaypt 3 жыл бұрын
This is ridiculous! Now a person cannot present his/hers/whatever to the public? 🤨
@chickcastiello1362
@chickcastiello1362 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Two seminal albums never to be equaled. We, who played them repeatedly, know he was there.!!!!!!! Linda81
@danobrien8671
@danobrien8671 3 жыл бұрын
He deserves his credit great show to watch cheers bobby coco
@TomCwimpRock
@TomCwimpRock 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting topic John.. 👍
@namronanilab9757
@namronanilab9757 3 жыл бұрын
Just goes to show that they are Living in the Material World
@1060michaelg
@1060michaelg 3 жыл бұрын
namron anilab Well said, that. True as well, it seems.
@alanmcbride6658
@alanmcbride6658 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect.
@waynej2608
@waynej2608 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. And, it seems some may be, 'brainwashed', too.
@continentalgin
@continentalgin 3 жыл бұрын
My first thought, when I saw the price points, was that Friar Park is expensive upkeep. Probably some truth to that. The place is enormous.
@kansasblues
@kansasblues 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, glad I got to see this video before it disappeared
@arnesaknussemm2427
@arnesaknussemm2427 3 жыл бұрын
Rick Beato has also had similar run ins with out of touch ‘ biz ‘people for similar reasons.
@edfeifert9838
@edfeifert9838 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for putting out this info when Bobby’s input has been blocked. Shame that the truth is covered up by business. I was going to buy but not now.
@kellydee2780
@kellydee2780 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who loves the memories and stories that Bobby shares ,not only on George Harrison but also Eric Clapton,I wonder,because he also was not interviewed in the Martin Scorsese documentary "Living In The Material World",maybe it's the accent?,not refined enough for them perhaps?,it's a shame because he was there for HISTORY, and he adds so much with his recollections.
@thebostonbrawler1
@thebostonbrawler1 3 жыл бұрын
It's all about LIABILITY! Bobby Whitlock is in a similar situation as say Mick Taylor & the STONES. Whitlock & Taylor are obvious heavy contributors to some obviously great works that are now "property" of "Rock n' Roll Corporations. They both were compensated very little for their work. Any actions of these Corps giving these workhorses any creedence of importance or authority would activate the power of so many LAWYERS adept at this sort of "lawsuit thing". A sad & familiar consequence and fallout of a meteoric era in the art of R n' Roll!
@Thomasgene
@Thomasgene 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the Bobby and Coco Videos!
@michaelmccormick6401
@michaelmccormick6401 3 жыл бұрын
There's a rather strange distrustful stance that seems to come out of the Harrison Estate. They seem to have this attitude that people are out to exploit them at every turn. This doesn't seem to exist with Paul's camp which only accentuates the Harrison's stance. You only have to listen to Mark Lewisohn's interviews to gain a sense of that. It's all rather weird. Bobby whitlock has nothing but admiration and enthusiasm for George and you get a a sense that it has hurt/disappointed him at being shut out.
@tomdumenjich7021
@tomdumenjich7021 3 жыл бұрын
That attitude has been around since Revolver was recorded. "There's people standing 'round who'll screw you in the ground, they'll fill you in with all their sins. You'll see."
@fshoaps
@fshoaps 3 жыл бұрын
Hey - What Lewinson interviews could I check out to get this sense, i'm not doubting you but i'm curious myself!
@michaelmccormick6401
@michaelmccormick6401 3 жыл бұрын
@@fshoaps I don't know the specific ones but I have heard them. Took me a while to find. George accused him of being a bootlegger during the anthology but with zero proof. He wanted him off the series as he was a researcher. Paul convinced george to keep him on. Paul didn't believe it and worked with Mark after the series so that tells me something. Like someone said in another comment, once you were in the Harrison's black book you were out. Completely out. Don't think it took much.
@tomdumenjich7021
@tomdumenjich7021 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmccormick6401 I'm of the opinion that George did the Anthology grudgingly. He needed the $ after Denis O'Brien ripped him off. While I loved the series and the book and the three albums, I still wonder why Paul and Ringo and Yoko (not to mention Clapton, Dylan, Petty, and Jeff Lynne) simply didn't give him what he needed to keep living at Friar Park. Not even as a loan...just as a gift to a friend.
@jldraw
@jldraw 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmccormick6401 ​ @Finn Shoaps Here are the details regarding the falling out between Lewisohn and Harrison. Mark Lewisohn as most Beatles fans are aware of gained access to the EMI tape library for his book "The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions" in 1988. Several years later there was an author by the name of Mark Hertsgaard who was mates with Lewisohn and asked his friend for assistance in accessing the EMI tape library for a book he was writing on The Beatles entitled "A Day In The Life". Lewisohn agreed to do this and believed he had gone through all of the proper channels in helping his friend gain access to the tape library and it was through this access that Hertsgaard was able to write his fantastic book which was published in 1995. However somewhere along the line, misinformation was relayed back to respective camps of George Harrison and Yoko Ono who were informed that Lewisohn was granting unauthorized access unilaterally to The Beatles' tape archive. Upon learning this both Harrison and Ono were very angry and it resulted in some unfortunate repercussions for Lewisohn. To begin with Lewisohn was originally slated to be the curator of the "Lennon: Anthology" project and had already devised a track listing for it. Ono immediately replaced him with Rob Stevens who went on to work with Ono on that project. Harrison also had Lewisohn's role reduced in terms of The Beatles Anthology and while McCartney prevented Lewisohn from being fired, his involvement in the project was significantly reduced. Remember all of this happened in spite of the fact that Lewisohn had gone through the proper channels and obtained permission from EMI to grant his mate access to their tape library.
@francoisbouvier7861
@francoisbouvier7861 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very insightful. One of my favorite Lp's to this day. At a$150(probably American), I will have to win the lottery before I purchase.
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