Why is the Traveler Not Using their Elements?? | Genshin Impact

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@streetwiserhapsody
@streetwiserhapsody Ай бұрын
Why Did the Traveler Lose Against Arlecchino? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g7eGd8me2MzLZas.html Arlecchino's Punishment and Final Duel with Traveler kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kMt7mZClmMqulHk.html
@AshTheGreat1998
@AshTheGreat1998 Ай бұрын
I can only assume that the reason he still uses the dull blade in cutscenes might more like the reason why unreleased 5 star characters aren't seen with their signature weapons when we first see them. We just aren't in a point in the story where Hoyo has given the traveler his signature weapon in game.
@ringmake7558
@ringmake7558 Ай бұрын
More like we havent gotten our 5 star traveler weapon yet
@kevingame3198
@kevingame3198 Ай бұрын
​@ringmake7558 yeah but in headcannon in the box art for 7.0 he is using prototype crescent bc kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qa-gqcxpraqtc6s.htmlsi=EaYFRPinDgeDYWvV
@ringmake7558
@ringmake7558 Ай бұрын
@@kevingame3198 I mean our og weapon
@kevingame3198
@kevingame3198 Ай бұрын
@ringmake7558 yeah but cover art 7.0 shows aether with prototype bow and dull blade on his back but still has his anemo element since mondstadt
@matttan8066
@matttan8066 Ай бұрын
Imagine the dull blade turns out to be his weapon in disguise like saber Excalibur who is invisible in fate stay night unlimited blade works
@IshimurA99
@IshimurA99 Ай бұрын
It wouldn't be wrong to say that the dull blade is the strongest weapon in the game because it has accompanied the traveler through countless battles🔥
@nargacuga8870
@nargacuga8870 Ай бұрын
He by her self said sae his trash in hes voice lines
@darkreaper2528
@darkreaper2528 Ай бұрын
They're dead set on making Traveller the stepping stone for other characters. I don't mind traveller losing but what about dignity. This type of thing has happened multiple times. I now genuinely think that traveller has lost his memory totally after waking up, because there's no way someone who has travelled multiple worlds would act like that. I'm not just talking about strength but mindset too. I hope they atleast make reasonable scenarios later on.
@zMoirax
@zMoirax 16 күн бұрын
Fr, exactly my thoughts... he acts and fights like he was born in Teyvat and weren't a interplanetary being
@dev4no
@dev4no 5 күн бұрын
hoyo actually knows how to execute a good story. but as long as they can sell low-quality trash with a minimal budget to fans and make big profits, why wouldn't they, right?
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 Ай бұрын
About the blade, the Traveler actually uses the Silver Sword during more public duels and competition. Guess they have one hard use sword and one fancy show sword, ha.
@memesmaster-kc2mb
@memesmaster-kc2mb Ай бұрын
I aggre that Arlecchino should have won but... bro the way the Traveler lost is just an embarrassment to the whole character, i swear bro looked like traveler from mondstadt, it was embarassimg to watch. I tough that after defeating a whale that literally feeds itself of devouring worlds that Traveler would have at least made Arlecchino work REALLY hard for the win and force her to go all out, but instead... Traveler: dull blade go brrrr!
@beng4ll967
@beng4ll967 Ай бұрын
Neuvillette defeated the whale. The Traveler was just a glorified cheerleader. The Traveler just isn't as strong as y'all think you are. Even his most "legit" wins are against a Signora very much out of her prime and Childe, who completely surpassed them in Fontaine.
@reverselucas9887
@reverselucas9887 Ай бұрын
​@@beng4ll967it was both, the neuvillete attacked from the outside while the traveler attacked from the inside. In fact, the role of the neuvillete was to remove the water from the primordial sea from the devouring whale, according to the dialogues of the fight. and the one who really knocked out the whale was the traveler who went inside it with that objective.
@emranao
@emranao Ай бұрын
she literally mocked us with NO effort. she just showed her powers to us (the moon) and didn't even bother. come on like we beated the tartaglia. (narval was helped by Neuvilette so it doesn't counts)
@memesmaster-kc2mb
@memesmaster-kc2mb Ай бұрын
@@emranao if childe used only the delusion he would've deated the traveler, but he got pissed out and used foul legacy, and because it was a recent ability of his at the time his body couldn't handle it. Once again, if childe sticked to using only the delusion he would've beaten us, he was literally troving us around in the cutscenes, and the Geo ability traveler used on him, wich even caught him off guard still literally did nothing to him, he just tanked it with no damage
@benjaminsterberg548
@benjaminsterberg548 Ай бұрын
@@memesmaster-kc2mbthe fuck you mean “it was a recent ability at the time” childe has had foul legacy since he fell into the abyss when he was young
@Biscoito257
@Biscoito257 Ай бұрын
Like one man with baby legs said: "That's just lazy writing."
@spymadmax584
@spymadmax584 Ай бұрын
Talk about not having patience 😂
@jevs1555
@jevs1555 Ай бұрын
@@spymadmax584You’re just easy to please.
@GachaLord
@GachaLord Ай бұрын
​@@spymadmax584 Patience for wanting to see some cool things that made total sense which was shown 3 years ago and then no more because the writers smoked cracks from all the surplus money the game made them? Or patience to wait and see when will the writers pull them sticks outta their asses and stop using the plot device that is "the Traveler fainted" for the 10th time? You could land yourself into a popular circus somewhere with that joke of yours.
@greeyanlorda
@greeyanlorda Ай бұрын
@@spymadmax584 this comment above me seems like he/she didnt really enjoy the game, but forcing themselves to play anyway lmao I can only see anger, salty, dissatisfaction from playing this game prob just a seasonal fomo players, or genshin karen 😂😂
@huhtao
@huhtao Ай бұрын
Fr the game has started to get boring. Tbh what is even the point of all that deep lore when its hidden along with the mc's voice?
@Anonymous-fm5wm
@Anonymous-fm5wm Ай бұрын
Why doesn't the dull blade break
@weeblordgaming6062
@weeblordgaming6062 Ай бұрын
Its made of vibranium
@lucysteel2686
@lucysteel2686 Ай бұрын
It's just dull, not fragile
@Eloux
@Eloux 24 күн бұрын
Dull just means it can't cut easily. It's not necessarily weak in durability
@amozlow2069
@amozlow2069 Ай бұрын
but in gameplay trailers featuring traveler for like a few seconds theyre always seen with prototype rancour, idk why they just dont use that
@nargacuga8870
@nargacuga8870 Ай бұрын
And this is why iam mad emagin the combos he can do with the 5 elements and reactions
@MrDongler
@MrDongler Ай бұрын
Tbh I expected Arlecchino to sweat and have a hard time against the Traveller, but oh boi. It was disappointing
@nothing1214
@nothing1214 Ай бұрын
I don't have a problem with traveller not winning, but were they sleeping when fighting the 4TH HARBINGER. Mf used different elemental skills only 2 times so far....
@ezrasolis4195
@ezrasolis4195 Ай бұрын
I saw another person comment that the traveler using the elements was something that happened during the actual boss battle itself. The cutscene we saw was just the end of the fight, where the traveler was probably too exhausted to use anymore elements, and I agree. People act like the cutscene was the whole fight, when it’s just one part of it. This is still a video game, most of the actual battle stuff is stuff you do yourself, while the cutscenes just show the aftermath.
@MiyashiruX
@MiyashiruX Ай бұрын
@@ezrasolis4195 Sure, the cutscene wasn't the whole fight but do not, for a second, tell me that the way they lost wasn't shameful to you. We've seen the Traveler being exhausted many times before but they've always fought to the bitter end. If they're gonna make them lose at least let them lose with their dignity in tact. It doesn't matter what you're gonna say, the Travelers are going to be treated as a joke until the next major story quest. If they do this again, may god have mercy on Lumine's soul~
@ezrasolis4195
@ezrasolis4195 Ай бұрын
@@MiyashiruX I feel like people are overreacting about this whole thing. There’ve been people complaining about the Traveler winning all the time, now that actually happens and people hate it. No one’s ever satisfied. In media it’s always losses like this that open the room for the characters to make huge improvements and developments, which is what I expect to see in Natlan.
@oni-Kira
@oni-Kira Ай бұрын
​@ezrasolis4195 It is the way that he lost that we are complaining about Mf has 5 elements and didn't use any of them and all he could do was freeing himself and stand in front of arlecchino then get defeated
@peph9750
@peph9750 Ай бұрын
@@ezrasolis4195 Are these people complaining about "traveler always winning" in the room with us rn?
@atomtempest5284
@atomtempest5284 Ай бұрын
That could possibly the sealed form of his actual sword when he faught the sustainer from the beginning of the game
@thatboyhan3872
@thatboyhan3872 Ай бұрын
Bro imagine aether losing to arlechino was an archon quest cutscene people would me Mad as fk
@KaranVir-go2xs
@KaranVir-go2xs Күн бұрын
The biggest question is how durable is that dull blade in case of noelle she started using claymore since all sword she use would break due to her strength but then you have this dull blade getting adeptal energy elemental energy fought against litreal gods but doesn't even get a scratch where did traveler even get this dull blade i want one for mine too
@Ayumu31
@Ayumu31 28 күн бұрын
forget fight scenes, the traveler doesnt even use elements in other important scenes. Traveler grabs touma's vision in lightning speed, fights ei in lightning speed, but when navia almost died in the archon quest he just ran normally :v like bruh. And dont say he was using only hydro blah blah blah, this video is shows where he used anemo n geo against childe, even when he tried to break into nahida's mind he used anemo when the clothes were dendro.
@thomasraines1396
@thomasraines1396 26 күн бұрын
They have to be shafted to make other characters look cool.
@thomasraines1396
@thomasraines1396 26 күн бұрын
I took as more of a case of them not wanting to draw to much attention to themselves, being able to use elements without a vision is strange enough but being able to use *multiple* would be insane. Out of universe though, it’s just the siblings needing to jobb to make other characters seem cool.
@Evitzeoshowerthoughts
@Evitzeoshowerthoughts Ай бұрын
I wasn't surprised tbh when the only times he used elements, was he almost died to childe (without being lockdown by domain btw....) speed boosts, and inanimate objects. Otherwise he prefers sword fighting, if I were to make up an answer, he got thrown into a random word with new powers from nowhere...
@shawnphilippeforto1827
@shawnphilippeforto1827 Ай бұрын
It's for the character development in the near future
@memesmaster-kc2mb
@memesmaster-kc2mb Ай бұрын
Yeah I'm sure if we wait around... let's say 10 more years I'm sure we gotta get something good at that point... probably
@matheusv.9330
@matheusv.9330 Ай бұрын
Unfortunely it's not, it's an story quest so it's not obligatory to do, so it's not canon in the archon quests
@huhtao
@huhtao Ай бұрын
cya in a few thousand years blud
@jeffali5157
@jeffali5157 5 күн бұрын
For the next chasm quest in a few days
@jeffali5157
@jeffali5157 4 күн бұрын
@@memesmaster-kc2mb wait till tomorrow or Wednesday for the next Chasm quest
@ForgoMangi
@ForgoMangi Ай бұрын
You know it could have been cool for the Traveler to use “festering Desire” during this fights for better lore implications
@Eloux
@Eloux 24 күн бұрын
I DON'T DISAGREE but that weapon was only Available early on so new people wouldn't really understand where it came from
@teddanville6996
@teddanville6996 Ай бұрын
If you think about it, they don't have to put much effort on just a character story quest. It's not like this is a main event or an archon quest.
@ismahaziq3545
@ismahaziq3545 Ай бұрын
And plus, it's Arlecchino drip marketing so they want to show how strong and how hot she is compared to MC.
@alfieomega
@alfieomega Ай бұрын
we should expect logic to logic, even in less important scenes
@huhtao
@huhtao Ай бұрын
they just want to advertise their waifus sheesh 😒
@AestixJJ2
@AestixJJ2 Ай бұрын
​@@huhtao fax they just want horny simps marketing it the game is just.....
@fierytigergaming8112
@fierytigergaming8112 26 күн бұрын
Hopefully hey learn in either the new Khaenri'ah quest, or the Natlan Arc - Natlan IS the nation of war after all
@emperorlewd
@emperorlewd Ай бұрын
Cause plot need to happen
@m3tl1kv3e9
@m3tl1kv3e9 Ай бұрын
Upgrade your Own Blade Traveler to become stronger instead using the Dull Blade.
@n_skib_a09
@n_skib_a09 Ай бұрын
Using 2 element... Why does it looks like a foreshadowing ?🤔 Also if you notice, traveler's sibling has shiny sword (probably a 5*). I think traveler will get something like it at the end of the journey 😅
@EmelieLindborg-qy4dk
@EmelieLindborg-qy4dk Ай бұрын
the traveler likely already used their elements during the actual boss fight. ,the cutscene took place after their battle ended, you could see how the traveler was very exhausted and probably didnt have enough energy left to use the elements.
@islowclick
@islowclick Ай бұрын
What are you yapping about. There isnt even any signs of damage due to the elements on the battlefield by aether
@greeyanlorda
@greeyanlorda Ай бұрын
finally some real observation with actual brain
@greeyanlorda
@greeyanlorda Ай бұрын
ppl always complain about every tiny lil detail mygod
@greeyanlorda
@greeyanlorda Ай бұрын
we also didnt use elemental power during scaramouche fight, imagine hoyo had to explain, like every details that happened during the entire boss fight this is why paimon keeps repeating their dialogues like hundred times, bcs of this kind of audience dayum
@espadangsword6220
@espadangsword6220 Ай бұрын
lazy writing
@hattoryuzaki_4917
@hattoryuzaki_4917 18 күн бұрын
Meanwhile honkai mc : 🔥✨⭐🌌🎩🔫💫🌟💥
@spymadmax584
@spymadmax584 Ай бұрын
Guess what? Childe has grown to be extremely strong, stronger than his self from liyue arc. That's because he loves fighting, he grew strong with each fight,to the point that being able to fight narwhal for a long time. While us have to get buffed from hydro dragon soverign nuevilette,which made us barely stand on those primordial waters. It looks like we're (mc) was never strong to begin with.
@fallensnow8859
@fallensnow8859 Ай бұрын
Nobody thought that the traveler probably used all his elemental energy offscreen considering we’ve already been fighting her for a while and his skills are on cooldown. Also the fact that Arlechinno attacks are so powerful and fast, it was difficult for the traveler to use elemental techniques. Like mage against an assassin.
@MiyashiruX
@MiyashiruX Ай бұрын
That's not the problem. Cutscenes are made to show what we were capable of that the gameplay often limits us from. Using them all, as you claim, offscreen defeats the purpose of the cutscene~ The Traveler losing like that heavily implies they never tried using anything, their movements were amateurish and their focus easily broken. You can see the fear in their eyes that they have learned NOTHING in the years they've traveled. You cannot deny the fact that the way they lost discards any, if not all, development they've had thus far. We're lucky this wasn't mainline or archon quest, the shame would've been much worse.
@greeyanlorda
@greeyanlorda Ай бұрын
true, this is why paimon keeps repeating the dialogues, like hundred times, bcs ppl cant even read the hint every tiny lil details had to explained on-screen bruh
@Yunfarron78
@Yunfarron78 20 күн бұрын
@@MiyashiruX But it doesn't though. By now, we have a good understanding as to how Traveler fights. In this case, what would showing the whole fight do for storytelling? It isn't the Scara fight or the Childe fight, where having the elements in play is actually useful or advances the story. If anything, I suppose using the elements on Arlecchino and showing that they do nothing could help drive that sense of "Oh crap", but we also saw her stop a broadsword with one hand and Lyney's elemental use of pyro didn't even do anything. There's enough "Oh crap, what the heck do we do?!" I think, by that point. On the outset, it's made clear that this is not a fair fight. There's no use in pretending that it is. Traveler knows that they're outmatched but they've also sussed out the reason why Arlecchino is agreeing to the duel before it even starts. And Arlecchino made it clear: fight with everything that you've got. With the kids' lives on the line, there's no reason to assume that Traveler wouldn't do exactly that. Why do we need to see Traveler use everything? Why would we assume that they would think this is a great time to *not* use elements? Why does it need to be spoonfed to the audience? Does the developer really believe that the audience would think that Traveler wouldn't take it seriously and do exactly as Arlecchino demands? Knowing what we know of the Knave, would she respect the Traveler's strength if they didn't use everything at their disposal or worse, dared to hold back when the lives of their friends are on the line? Something that they've never done and are known to not do? Besides, where would such a moment fit in, from a story boarding perspective? Throughout the game, element usage between characters has always been used to denote the characters that are most important to the narrative surrounding the fight. As it stands, this fight is framed as between Lyney's will vs Arlecchino's, with Traveler and Lyney's siblings acting as support. IIRC, neither Freminet nor Lynette use their elements, either. The only ones using element of any sort are Lyney and Arlecchino. Traveler is not the important one in these cutscenes, just as they're an observer to the narrative as it plays out within the HotH. Other examples: The Signora cutscene, for example, the only one that uses their element is Raiden. Traveler is the catalyst for Signora's death, but the narrative isn't about Traveler, it's about The Shogun taking back control of her nation by killing Signora. The usage of Electro is used to denote who has power in this cutscene, the one that is most important within it. With the Scara fight, only Scaramouche and Nahida use elements, Traveler is, again, a catalyst, but the narrative isn't about them. It's about Nahida and Scaramouche and their fight. Conversely, the Childe fight is about Traveler and Childe, narrative-wise, so they get to use element. When Traveler uses geo to redirect the boulders, it's made clear that Traveler is the only one standing between that rock and the people in Poisson. We see it clearly in the Traveler's fight with Ei, as well, when the elements of the people are brought in to assist in changing Ei's mind. Traveler uses Electro to rush to rescue Thoma after Shogun uses electro to take Thoma's vision. Thoma is relegated to observer while Traveler and Shogun become the main focus of the scene. Following this is the casual use of electro by Shogun to walk down to Traveler's sceneic level, which reinforces the power dynamic, even though she's voluntarily given up the traditional "high position" that denotes power dynamics. Yes, she got on his level but they are still not treated as equals in the scene. From what I can recall, element is NEVER used as "just a tool" for those involved. It's been the flavoring used to show the audience "These are the big players of the scene, look at this power clash!" It also helps with keeping Teyvat and its inhabitants feeling cohesive. It's not a land that Traveler just got iseka'd to and has turned into their playground. It has its own people with their own lives and conflicts that Traveler gets to watch and experience. Have they helped? Yes. Are they a hero? Yes. But there are just some conflicts that an outsider to the world should not have control over. Using elements, a power that is ultimately foreign to the Traveler, as a vehicle to show this is brilliant and consistent storytelling.
@holdenm.c5495
@holdenm.c5495 5 күн бұрын
If you've been a gamer for a long time, you should already know the logic there. Maybe he use elements too, but it's not shown in cutscenes. Because, after all, it's still a VIDEO GAME, you need to play to progress to the next scene. The cutscene is just an aftermath of the battle in the game, so don't act like it's the whole battle they had.
@huhtao
@huhtao Ай бұрын
istg i feel like hoyo is cooking something for the traveller (sry for being delulu this is just a gut feeling)
@SachiSaby
@SachiSaby Ай бұрын
Tbh it's just hoyoverse's fault they could choregraph awesome fights with traveller using all elements and still make him believably lose.
@fafflytailslogisonicuite104
@fafflytailslogisonicuite104 Ай бұрын
MIhoyo's budget is running low, or maybe they changed the writers team and decided to go for an enigmatic route. Eitherway, it's only 3 Nations left, they better get creative on that story telling.
@theturtle8869
@theturtle8869 Ай бұрын
Hoyoverse genshin team got fat and lazy with all the money they’re making that they’re content with serving slop
@KenSveuz
@KenSveuz 7 күн бұрын
Indeed
@jeffali5157
@jeffali5157 5 күн бұрын
The quest definitely wasn’t slop, but this confrontation did not help Aether
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