Hearing these ultimate truths; the dull witted man is bewildered. Hearing these ultimate truths; the wise man retreats within in ultimate bliss and appears dull witted. (As Ramakrishna paramhansa appears dull witted in deep samadhi) (Ashtavakra) With regards to your use of the word "questioner", the question is actually already desolved and its just that the questioner doesnt know it (yet). The questioneris on 'the journey' and mustn't be provided the concept that the viel of questions and answers is illusion else one may hinder this blessed journey. The questioner hasn't yet undercovered the illusory viel to automatically realise this (not that something else is now required). In reality there is no questioner because there are no answers. The supreme reality is and alone is. Questions and answers are just imagined. On this topic and studying the Astavakra Gita it becomes apparent to be a subtle extension to the Great Bhagavad Gita and imdeed a reminder of Astavakra Gita 2.15: "in reality knowledge, the knowable, and the knower do not exist." Referring ofcourse to Bhagavad Gita chapter 13. Shankrachaya, Atma Bodha: Distinctions between knower, known and knowledge are absent in the true self, Atma. This is because Area's nature is limitless, non-dual consciousness. It alone shines. As Kabir says: I laugh when when I hear that the fish in water is thirsty I laugh when I hear people go on pilgrimage to find God God is within. It is not an external attainment that is somewhere in the future and other than here and now. God is here now. Now here. And nowhere because he is nowhere outside of you. God is not other than you. Infact the aspect "other than you" is not. It cannot exist. Therefore nothing exists other than you. Other than God. Indeed as you say all gets dissolved in the fire of bhakti. Bhakti is indeed without a doubt the greatest and the greatest of all Jnana. Hari Aum Tat Sat 🙏

@@jshdhdyjfjdjfhfyyene731 Very true. As ramana maharshi says: ' God cannot be seen because he alone is the seer' ...and Vivekananda puts it forward too : 'God is knowable and unknowable. Knowable in the sense that he is the closest possible thing to you. He alone is the close one all other relations die away. It is because he is you and you are him. He is unknowable because to know an object, there must be a subject. But It is impossible to see god as an object because he himself is a subject. There is no object. All is god and god alone.

প্রকৃতপক্ষে আমি কে ? উত্তর : আপনি দেহ বা মন নয় , আপনি আদমা বা চেতনা । দড়ীকে সাপ ভাবার মতো আপনি নিজেকে যাহা ভাবছেন , আসলে আপনি তাহা নন।অর্থাৎ মায়া বা দৃষ্টি ভ্রমের কারনে নিজের আদমা পরিচয় ভূলে আপনি দেহকে আমি ভাবছেন এক দ্বৈত ভাবের মনোজগতে। এই শক্তিশালী দেহরুপ আমি ভাবনার অপর নাম মানব প্রকৃতি বা আমিত্ব বা অহম । আত্ম পরিচয় বা আদমাকে খোঁজার নামে এই মানব প্রকৃতি বা আমিত্বের কোনরুপ পরিবর্তন গীতা সহ সকল ধর্ম গ্রন্হ নিষেধ করেছেন । কারনএর পরিবর্তনে জড় বন্ধন ভেংগে যায় । নিষ্কাম কর্মের নামে কর্মের কর্তৃত্বের দাবী ছেড়ে দিলে বা অদ্বৈতবাদের নামে ভাল মন্দ দ্বৈতবাদের শৃংখল ভেংগে শুন্যধামে চলে গেলে জগতের কার্যকরন সুত্র অকার্যকর হয়ে বেজে উঠে এই গান : তোমার কর্ম তুমি কর মা লোকে বলে করি আমি । তখন মানুষ আর মানুষ থাকেনা , সে প্রতিক্রিয়া শুন্য পরম নির্বিকার মজ্জুব হয়ে পরে । আত্মদর্শীরা এর নাম দিয়েছে ব্রম্ম জ্ঞান ও মোক্ষলাভ । মহা মায়াকে অতক্রম করে নিজেকে চেনার এই ধর্ম বিরোধী স্তরে কোটিতে গুটিক যেতে পারে। বাকী সবাই শুনা ও বলার স্তরের রসিক মাত্র। মানুষের কাজ ভগমানকে না দেখে তার আদেশ নিষেদের দাসত্ব করা যার নাম ধর্ম। আদমা বা চেতনা সেজে নিজেকে দেখা বা ভগমানকে খোঁজা নয় , যার নাম দর্শন । ভগমানের কাছে ধর্ম গৃহিত হবে , দর্শন নয়। তাই গীতা বলে : ধর্মং ততু সাক্ষাৎ ভগবান প্রণীতম ।

Wonderful conversation. This is from the perspective of an unrealised soul. A realised soul already knows that Brahman (consciousness) alone exists and there is no seeker distinct from Brahman, and hence the term self-realization makes sense.

Very well said 😊

Thats a nice way to put it 👌

really liked what you said..

@@oln3678 yes brother.namaste Love from Bharat. Oom tat sat

Yes.

There is eternal and ever-fresh movie. It is called Krishna lila.

Thank you for saving your life dear , never ever think about it again

@@vedicarya7 ❤️

You can read Swami Vivekananda's complete work.I think you have known all about how to collect those books now.

Where can we see them or participate in them?

Swami can point fingers at the truth, but we have to see it.

Is your Guru Sriraman?

I don’t know who that is. My guru was sant darshan singhji maharaj

What is mental masturbation of ego sir?

If you can perceive it or conceive it, it is not. Have you read "The Unborn Gita", by Pradeep Apte? You can find a recording of it on YT.

If you believe that world is false, try jumping from a high rise building. Mayavada is clever, but disingenuous. Vishishta Adwaita philosophy comes closer to truth.

@@vasukinagabhushan Jumping would not prove the world was not Maya, a dream, or an illusion any more than letting the body die of old age, cancer, or murder. If it can come and go, it is not you. You are prior to birth and death.

Ego is false and when we are in world we see collection of egos acting one upon other and making world move. When one realises there is no ego, he realises this world is born out of agyana (ego) hence one jump to conclusion this world is false. But when one realises more that he was being played by nature and he is part of nature. He is not doer, then unity comes and self identity that I am only this body is fakse then he become jagat(existence). again when one realises more...

Where can we see them or participate in them?

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It takes time lol ask the questions to yourself and don't stop

Just understand that all your questions have been asked multiple times thousands of years ago, you are going through it all.

Have you read "The Unborn Guru", or listened to it here on YT? It is by Pradeep Apte.

Just imagine a kind of natural 'high' that get you so high, that it dont matter if you relax or burn

It comes by itself at some point. Maybe not in this lifetime. But all are destined to grow tired of experiencing all the phenomena, good and bad alike. It is then that slowly you stop discriminating between things you desire and things you reject. You won't get joy from a day at the beach and you won't feel terror when faced with disease, pain or death. All experiences become equal and are let go of. You can't make that happen, but it happens to all at some point in the course of numerous lifetimes. You can also not stop it from happening. It doesn't seem very appealing to be indifferent towards all experiences, does it. So, the ego usually doesn't really strive for this. Only when the purusha has truly tired of experiencing, you start throwing yourself into the current that pulls you towards indiscrimination. Until then, you practice spirituality to get something out of it, to feel better, to become a better person etc. Nonduality will come quite late in the journey. But it's good to hear about it nonetheless.

Thrust or thirst?

Vivekananda jocularly remarked inUSA that brahmagyana will not get you a candy...! It means that God will only help those who help themselves...transcenental reality cannot be brought down to the level of workaday reality...Render unto Caesar what is Caesars and render unto God what is God's...!!

প্রকৃতপক্ষে আমি কে ? উত্তর : আপনি দেহ বা মন নয় , আপনি আদমা বা চেতনা । দড়ীকে সাপ ভাবার মতো আপনি নিজেকে যাহা ভাবছেন , আসলে আপনি তাহা নন।অর্থাৎ মায়া বা দৃষ্টি ভ্রমের কারনে নিজের আদমা পরিচয় ভূলে আপনি দেহকে আমি ভাবছেন এক দ্বৈত ভাবের মনোজগতে। এই শক্তিশালী দেহরুপ আমি ভাবনার অপর নাম মানব প্রকৃতি বা আমিত্ব বা অহম । আত্ম পরিচয় বা আদমাকে খোঁজার নামে এই মানব প্রকৃতি বা আমিত্বের কোনরুপ পরিবর্তন গীতা সহ সকল ধর্ম গ্রন্হ নিষেধ করেছেন । কারনএর পরিবর্তনে জড় বন্ধন ভেংগে যায় । নিষ্কাম কর্মের নামে কর্মের কর্তৃত্বের দাবী ছেড়ে দিলে বা অদ্বৈতবাদের নামে ভাল মন্দ দ্বৈতবাদের শৃংখল ভেংগে শুন্যধামে চলে গেলে জগতের কার্যকরন সুত্র অকার্যকর হয়ে বেজে উঠে এই গান : তোমার কর্ম তুমি কর মা লোকে বলে করি আমি । তখন মানুষ আর মানুষ থাকেনা , সে প্রতিক্রিয়া শুন্য পরম নির্বিকার মজ্জুব হয়ে পরে । আত্মদর্শীরা এর নাম দিয়েছে ব্রম্ম জ্ঞান ও মোক্ষলাভ । মহা মায়াকে অতক্রম করে নিজেকে চেনার এই ধর্ম বিরোধী স্তরে কোটিতে গুটিক যেতে পারে। বাকী সবাই শুনা ও বলার স্তরের রসিক মাত্র। মানুষের কাজ ভগমানকে না দেখে তার আদেশ নিষেদের দাসত্ব করা যার নাম ধর্ম। আদমা বা চেতনা সেজে নিজেকে দেখা বা ভগমানকে খোঁজা নয় , যার নাম দর্শন । ভগমানের কাছে ধর্ম গৃহিত হবে , দর্শন নয়। তাই গীতা বলে : ধর্মং ততু সাক্ষাৎ ভগবান প্রণীতম ।

You are Brahman. You don't need anything.

​@@alukuhitoyes but we should be constantly reminded about it

@@thyagarajant.r.3256 Who is "we"?

@@alukuhito ignorant people are meant by the termwe.Of course strictly speaking allare one Brahman

Yes, some Advaithians wrongly interpret Maya as the illusion through which Brahman falsely appears as the universe. Maya is the creative shakthi of Brahman and it is absolutely real. It also means the world is also real. Mithya also does not mean false. It means temporary or relative existence. eg Office work may be temporary but not false. or in the form of cosmic allegories, we can explain that nondual Shiva and duality capable Shakthi or Maya CANNOT exist without each other. It is like saying ADVAITHA and DVAITHA are INCOMPLETE without each other. This is Sankhya Vedic metaphysics (around which the whole hindu tradition was built including its templet tradition, yoga and tantra) which can be validated by logic, double slit quantum experiment and embodied experience.

@@Lets_learnit Apparently, but not Absolutely. Look for anything, including the substratum or consciousness itself. You'll never find it. It is all false and Unborn. A lot like quantum physics.

Charcoal,graphite and diamond all thre are carbon But are they equal in worth?

01:00 circle 02:00 rectangle 03:00 cylinder

... or not two.

Yes same thing is also said by dualistic schools, there is similarity in both their positions.

Change is the truth of the physical universe, therefore any function of that change automatically becomes truth. Nothing is false. It "appears" false to you because of "avidya". The English word "false" doesn't translate to the Sanskrit word "mithya". The more accurate translation would be a mirage. A mirage isn't really false. It appears false to the senses.

or in the form of cosmic allegories, we can explain that nondual Shiva and duality capable Shakthi or Maya CANNOT exist without each other. It is like saying ADVAITHA and DVAITHA are INCOMPLETE without each other. This is Sankhya Vedic metaphysics (around which the whole hindu tradition was built including its templet tradition, yoga and tantra) which can be validated by logic, double slit quantum experiment and embodied experience.