Why is Zwift time trialling so HARD.

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Alex Dowsett

Alex Dowsett

4 жыл бұрын

Well it's clear I'm not getting much better with my online racing attempts...
Chatting through my latest TT race (at altitude, clearly)
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ALEX
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@BobNoodlefoot
@BobNoodlefoot 4 жыл бұрын
"We should call him butter, coz he´s on a roll"!?!?!? Chanel you´re on fire. YT cant handle that intensity of banter.
@joe.laverick
@joe.laverick 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched this yet. But, I guess altitude is mentioned...
@carlosflanders518
@carlosflanders518 4 жыл бұрын
If you tried riding a Zwift race at altitude, believe me, you'd be mentioning it too.
@leedorney
@leedorney 4 жыл бұрын
I just love Chanelle, she provides such light-heartedness, whilst Alex is full-on serious vibe and the tongs at the end for putting the clothes in the washing machine 😄 #luvU2
@brownshit1
@brownshit1 4 жыл бұрын
Someone should start a GoFundMe to get Alex a ruddy fan.
@troycollett8540
@troycollett8540 4 жыл бұрын
GeebusCripes I don’t think they could get it delivered
@edwinf9999
@edwinf9999 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be considered a critical item!
@adamneilson6734
@adamneilson6734 4 жыл бұрын
GoFanMe
@iancreighton1
@iancreighton1 3 жыл бұрын
OnlyFans
@JimUe1
@JimUe1 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, that's the answer to why it's hard. have a decent fan blowing at his face and another at the rest of his body and it's like ain't half as hard
@YaniofWigan
@YaniofWigan 4 жыл бұрын
I'm at altitude merch required! :)
@shaunhoulahan4080
@shaunhoulahan4080 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Highlight was Chanel using tongs to pick up the soggy kit at the end.
@RGCastro7
@RGCastro7 4 жыл бұрын
+1. I laughed hard at that!
@leeomurchu1213
@leeomurchu1213 4 жыл бұрын
Beg,borrow or steal a fan it honestly makes a massive difference, you might even hit 370w ave 🤣 but then again you are at altitude. Maybe get two fans 🤔🤣🤣
@mondoabz
@mondoabz 4 жыл бұрын
I raced during the week with two fans instead of one and gained 10 Watts on my ftp and got DQ'd from my cat lol
@jamescarlphotography4523
@jamescarlphotography4523 4 жыл бұрын
What's missing here? GT2 RS. Well played, Alex, well played.
@svgherb
@svgherb 4 жыл бұрын
James Carl Photography whats GT2 RS?
@geoffwoodward9493
@geoffwoodward9493 4 жыл бұрын
Sage Deluce A Porsche
@Ad-my9kg
@Ad-my9kg 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see somebody who recognises that Zwift is really a training tool. Its fun to race, and without the fence all group rides turn into races, but because you can cheat (120kph) and trainers accuracy may vary, you cannot account for CD etc then the only person you can really beat on Zwift is yourself. Keep up the good work Alex.
@jk0000079
@jk0000079 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like Zwift, since its "cheating". In comparison with Zwift, on other platforms (e.g. BKool), I need to put down more power, to reach the same 40+ kmh avg speed. And when compared with my memories of riding in the real world, from pre-virus times, the power needed to be put down on other platforms, feels more realistic with this regard.
@JosephLycettCycling
@JosephLycettCycling 4 жыл бұрын
Should retitle the video “Chanel terrorising Alex whilst he time trials for 16 minutes straight”
@kristanhurn5919
@kristanhurn5919 4 жыл бұрын
Always look forward to the uploads 'big rig' on a zwift TT awesome 🤟
@CesarFalco
@CesarFalco 4 жыл бұрын
the only highlight of my rest day
@mathymaven7883
@mathymaven7883 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice TT! this racing is great training. You inspire me to do some Zwift TT this spring and summer. No racing IRL so it is the best replacement we have. Hang tough Alex.
@Jim-ub9qy
@Jim-ub9qy 4 жыл бұрын
This always makes my day. I lost a massive number of calories watching you ride and sweat...goodness do you perspire! Chanel always adds just the right amount of humor with the encouraging slap on the ass and commentary. Loved it! Say hey to Albert for me.
@teleotto
@teleotto 4 жыл бұрын
Beating PRs on a Neo is winning! Loved the dynamic between you two.
@RobFinch1971
@RobFinch1971 4 жыл бұрын
You're where I was last week. First TT, went out too hard to keep with someone I knew, slowed towards the end. Last week, paced it to "perfection" catching riders who slowed and sprinted in, went 20s slower. Hoping I'll learn from your next video!
@thebluejersey4030
@thebluejersey4030 4 жыл бұрын
I swear my favourite shorts give me an extra 10 watts in my head, when coupled with my favourite socks make that an extra 5 watts on top. Another brilliant insightful and honest video, go Alex!
@edmuggles
@edmuggles 4 жыл бұрын
While Chanel might be your biggest fan! And can move a lot of air when your suffering (and we love it) A static fan that keeps a jet of air will help ;) Loving the vids
@paulbusek7265
@paulbusek7265 4 жыл бұрын
Absolute nutter! and good effort Alex!
@davidhall9124
@davidhall9124 4 жыл бұрын
When i watch here in Florida at sea level Alex finished in the top 10!
@joebearman620
@joebearman620 4 жыл бұрын
Bringing my mood up at the end of the day :) thank you
@thepie4052
@thepie4052 4 жыл бұрын
Another great vid......I felt your pain!
@EricMichaelManuel
@EricMichaelManuel 4 жыл бұрын
No one but you is on a tt bike in a tt position. They're all on road bikes hammering in the most upright position they can, with likely better virtual equipment (faster bikes and wheels) (that's not mentioning the calibration, height and weight doping (yes height matters)). Props to you for doing it, filming it and having a sense of perspective on it.
@MB-pq4hx
@MB-pq4hx 4 жыл бұрын
How do you know no else is on a tt bike? Alex mentioned a bunch of guys were British tters. Those guys would use their tt position when doing this type of training.
@EricMichaelManuel
@EricMichaelManuel 4 жыл бұрын
@@MB-pq4hx okay captain pedantry, sure, they might. So for all the super offended 6 w/kg TTers out there that are crying at home because I maligned them I sincerely apologise.
@MB-pq4hx
@MB-pq4hx 4 жыл бұрын
EricMichaelManuel Strawman, you said everyone wasn’t in the tt position, now it’s about 6wkg. Why you needed to insult me about it, my mistake for being dumb enough to make a comment on youtube I guess.
@charliecroker7005
@charliecroker7005 4 жыл бұрын
There's nothing to stop cheats in this form of racing. It's worse than Strava.
@jboone1142
@jboone1142 4 жыл бұрын
@@EricMichaelManuel 😂😂
@stephenmoore4651
@stephenmoore4651 4 жыл бұрын
Alex, Zwift’s own ‘Fast Tuesday’ TT’s are on the same course (but 18km instead of 16km and use the conveyor belt staggered start. The Zwift event is repeated several times during Tue/Wed morning so you get a few opportunities to ride it. The Newbury Velo midweek (Wed- 7pm) and weekend (Sat- 10am) TT’s are the same course and start and very popular - 1000 riders entered the one on Saturday just gone. Might try your TT tips ride this Wednesday followed by the Newbury if my legs are still working.
@NathanBudd
@NathanBudd 4 жыл бұрын
Somebody get this guy a fan!
@cals.9269
@cals.9269 3 жыл бұрын
GT2RS !!!!!!! This is my kinda guy. Bikes and Cars. Loving the content. MORE please !
@johnora3857
@johnora3857 4 жыл бұрын
You are a proofen real life champion whereas many guys on zwift are online heros. Same in any esports: „show it on lan!“ thanks for awesome videos!
@KetzalSterling
@KetzalSterling 4 жыл бұрын
Patreon page needed, the man needs some FREAKING FANS!
@neerim
@neerim 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite part of your vlogs is Chanel's commentary :)
@cornishalps9870
@cornishalps9870 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Blake pond! He's done a few TT's here in Cornwall and I'm pretty sure he is a local
@victorlwd
@victorlwd 4 жыл бұрын
TT disc wheel setups on zwift are the : zipp 808/super 9 combo and the 858 super 9 combo
@SILVERSNOWMAN72
@SILVERSNOWMAN72 4 жыл бұрын
Alex, Zwift recommend you do a calibration spin down after each ride and I do a wahoo spin down afterwards aswell to calibrate it too. Things can get out of whack very quickly on Zwift. Great video/workout, love your youtube stuff...awesome.
@gadenhertog
@gadenhertog 4 жыл бұрын
I think he's on a tacx neo: no calibration needed
@MrBoggins1234
@MrBoggins1234 4 жыл бұрын
Great vlog 👌
@neildmoss
@neildmoss 4 жыл бұрын
Just looks brutal... Are you seeing the effect of the altitude in your blood values? (assume you’ve got some sort of blood spot test kit thing available). Is there a rule of thumb for how many more watts you could put out at sea level, based on your numbers for where you are? #NumbersNerd
@donm1979
@donm1979 4 жыл бұрын
It's all about cooling: 1. Huge fan 2. No shirt 3. Ice down the back of your bib shorts
@johnl4310
@johnl4310 4 жыл бұрын
when you get back on the road I will be really keen to hear if you feel Zwift has been a good training aid. I have friends that give me grief for zwifting instead of always using the real roads but I like to think that Zwifting is benefitting my overall training.
@douglaspate9314
@douglaspate9314 4 жыл бұрын
Loved it!!
@JosephLycettCycling
@JosephLycettCycling 4 жыл бұрын
There is a Zipp Super 9 disc wheel + 808 combo in the drop shop on Zwift
@mohammedrashid6926
@mohammedrashid6926 4 жыл бұрын
Good work
@zakdaly1985
@zakdaly1985 4 жыл бұрын
Alex, the question is unsalted, slightly salted or unsalted butter on your roll! Love the content always makes me laugh.
@fcotanis
@fcotanis 2 жыл бұрын
GT2 RS - yes Sir! Great choice.
@davepgt3
@davepgt3 4 жыл бұрын
You're not the only one that wants a GT2 RS, great choice of car!
@tonycrabtree3416
@tonycrabtree3416 4 жыл бұрын
LOL @ I’m gonna push and go for 368 watts. The dry wit is spot on.
@JB-np4lp
@JB-np4lp 4 жыл бұрын
Come on, surely a GT3 RS...Vamos Alex! 🤘
@benmagee1751
@benmagee1751 4 жыл бұрын
The Bologna TT is BRUTAL!!!
@sir.chrishoy
@sir.chrishoy 4 жыл бұрын
If you're after Zwift race results, maybe it's worth doing on your road bike instead, so that you can squeeze our some extra watts over your TT position?
@erlinkin2709
@erlinkin2709 4 жыл бұрын
You need a fan, that has made a big difference for me
@andyshepherd5067
@andyshepherd5067 4 жыл бұрын
zipp 808/super9 is what you want and two fans
@garycooper5269
@garycooper5269 4 жыл бұрын
why Zwift don't put image as disc ,,i didn't realise when i first looking for
@jpvn2015
@jpvn2015 4 жыл бұрын
It's because you are at altitude and using your accurate weight lol. I'm glad to see that you are starting to realize the antics on Zwift. In real life you'd destroy everyone and we all know that. And you know that too lol.
@anthonylovell2271
@anthonylovell2271 4 жыл бұрын
He'll beast it when he returns to sea level after all this altitude training. 👹👹
@Dispariabooks
@Dispariabooks 4 жыл бұрын
Does Chanel's 'motivation' add or drop 20 watts? :P
@adamroyles
@adamroyles 4 жыл бұрын
That’s nice kit. Can people buy it?
@aounjose
@aounjose 4 жыл бұрын
On flat roads people also dope with height. Imputing a lower height gives an aero advantage in the game.
@jimhansen5395
@jimhansen5395 4 жыл бұрын
Is this true? Can you cite a test? I thought zwiftinsider did some testing on this and determined that height had no bearing?
@cupdrums
@cupdrums 4 жыл бұрын
Alex, do you train with a fan infront of you? I'm the furthest thing from a pro but i find overheating indoors is super easy and thus reduces power output. With a fan blowing infront of me (simulating wind cooling me) allows me to put out more power
@DuffmanOhNo
@DuffmanOhNo 4 жыл бұрын
I'm far from pro, or even a competitive cyclist, but having a fan does genuinely make such a big difference when riding on the turbo!
@michaelpfister1922
@michaelpfister1922 4 жыл бұрын
haha, it looks like alex really got the cabin fever. kudos to chanel though - alex gives her more than enough reason to be sour when he shuts down every attempt she makes to lighten the mood but she just doesn't take it personally. there might be more stamina needed for that than for completing this time trial :)
@bitminerbob6731
@bitminerbob6731 4 жыл бұрын
Good watts!!! "got a cat, got a good girlfriend". LOL, I laughed.
@ts911993
@ts911993 4 жыл бұрын
Mate, you have to use a fan. Have a chat to Greg Henderson about it. He had a great interview with one of his professors about heats effect on power output. Also, you need to be level 40 to get the first 808/disc available from Zipp, then level 45 is the 858/disc. If you have the 808s chuck them on. Also, in that one it was a race, so there was drafting. Everyone else had it, but you on the TT bike never got any draft effect. Cheers.
@BenBrawn
@BenBrawn 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard you’d be losing more watts from the lack of fast air flow than from altitude. Normally you are moving through the air crazy fast which creates cooling, siting there with just a little window open you are cooking yourself. Zwifters generally have fast fans or lots of standard ones.
@martywild8200
@martywild8200 4 жыл бұрын
“GT2 RS”, man has serious taste.
@richardrenyer3078
@richardrenyer3078 4 жыл бұрын
Do you ever really adjust to altitude? Or, do you only really see those adaptations when you get back to sea level?
@robbchastain3036
@robbchastain3036 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what Alex thinks when he hears that door open again. Chanel is like, you can race and talk at the same time :)
@benmagee1751
@benmagee1751 4 жыл бұрын
'Vamoss' is becoming a Zwift TT thing! We need to get Zwift to change the 'Ride-On's to Vamosses on TTs and get Chanel to record them! Would be epic! :)
@verhagen
@verhagen 4 жыл бұрын
Zipp has a disk wheel, look zipp super something. Not showing as disk in shop but once you choose it does...
@verhagen
@verhagen 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Forgot about that. Have been level 50 for at least a year now...
@gavanhennigan8213
@gavanhennigan8213 4 жыл бұрын
What altitude height are you at and where ?
@landcruiser801
@landcruiser801 4 жыл бұрын
Have you done Alpe Du Zwift yet? You should do it live and let people know when so we can wave at you as you ride off!!
@alanbeauregard4074
@alanbeauregard4074 4 жыл бұрын
Your wife is a riot.... Great job.
@taitysmarineaquarium7180
@taitysmarineaquarium7180 4 жыл бұрын
Nice effort
@joeszwed6654
@joeszwed6654 3 жыл бұрын
"How we doing in here?!" "Not good!" - dunno why but it got me lol
@Yosser70
@Yosser70 4 жыл бұрын
If I move the turbo upstairs from the back room, can I blame altitude? lol
@danielappelhans3489
@danielappelhans3489 4 жыл бұрын
What exact altitude are you at?
@richardgrimes6126
@richardgrimes6126 Жыл бұрын
368 watts is decent, Alex, but Chanel is by far your greatest achievement
@auresk11
@auresk11 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Alex, what is the Watts loss due to altitude? (The altitude you're at) Thanks to show your power on strava and great effort!
@davidk.8608
@davidk.8608 4 жыл бұрын
He said at beginning about a 14% loss
@rikkiola
@rikkiola 4 жыл бұрын
around 60 watts for this, pretty massive
@hubby17ification
@hubby17ification 4 жыл бұрын
Try the BC one on Thursday evening, it's the London course so slightly shorter than Tempus Fugit but a bit more rolling and less boring
@david131092
@david131092 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Chambers this was the BC one - all the BC ones are exactly 10miles
@hubby17ification
@hubby17ification 4 жыл бұрын
@@david131092 My mistake, the ones I've done there have been slightly longer
@RochsWorld
@RochsWorld 4 жыл бұрын
You mentioned you're at altitude... where are you? On the 3rd floor? :)
@davethegayguy420
@davethegayguy420 4 жыл бұрын
You open new wheels as you level up!
@leespencer9788
@leespencer9788 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it would be possible for zwift to use a head on camera to look at ur frontal area while your riding? I know its not everything when it comes to being aero but atleast its part of it
@MarkPhilp1970
@MarkPhilp1970 4 жыл бұрын
Alex the grub should do his own laundry.😂
@ian3893
@ian3893 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t you get more cooling while your riding Alex?
@finishstrongcycling2355
@finishstrongcycling2355 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry Alex, Zwift doesn't open disc wheels (808/Super 9) until level 35 at a minimum (unless you're a beta tester). I've been on Zwift for almost four years and just hit level 35. It's a long road ahead for that wheel set, unfortunately....
@LD-bv1pm
@LD-bv1pm 4 жыл бұрын
Chanel and the tongs LOL..
@mrnobody9821
@mrnobody9821 4 жыл бұрын
Did I mention the fan?
@trev_the_t5437
@trev_the_t5437 4 жыл бұрын
Alex when you mention Kevin Attreed do you mean Bagpuss :):)
@howardclegg7960
@howardclegg7960 3 жыл бұрын
What shorts are they?
@KtL1772
@KtL1772 3 жыл бұрын
ha genuinely feared for channels safety for a min there your face did not look happy 😆 grate vid tho mate
@Bradbajc
@Bradbajc 4 жыл бұрын
Love the content Alex! But get a bloody fan brotha.
@doma9584
@doma9584 4 жыл бұрын
7:58 whats that vice alberts sat on for?
@st939
@st939 4 жыл бұрын
There are staggered start TT races in Zwift I think...
@ryanrehmeier7319
@ryanrehmeier7319 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the whole vid, but Chanel's handling of the soaking wet kit via tongs put me over the edge, forcing me to hit the Subscribe button! :)
@gauloisrefractaireenexilvo4366
@gauloisrefractaireenexilvo4366 4 жыл бұрын
The good thing when WT Pros are on Zwift they can spot the cheaters in no time. Hang on tight Alex! 6 weeks of lack down with your GF / Coach / Supporter is a recipe for total meltdown by mid of May... Pace yourself.
@mrnobody9821
@mrnobody9821 4 жыл бұрын
also a fan.
@KristoferFoster
@KristoferFoster 4 жыл бұрын
A Porsche man, I knew I liked you for some reason.
@irespectfullyrefuse
@irespectfullyrefuse 4 жыл бұрын
He used to own a 997 gt3 up until last year...a man with great taste!
@dazza9360
@dazza9360 2 жыл бұрын
Chanelle, you need to teach Alex how to load the washing machine so that he can place his dirty riding gear straight in the machine...
@chrispyy606060606
@chrispyy606060606 4 жыл бұрын
Please send me your address so I can buy and ship you a fan! (Great work btw) Is this a weekly TT series?
@Darren.Lindsay
@Darren.Lindsay 4 жыл бұрын
Part of the problem with TTing on Zwift is the fact that it doesn't take into account actual aerodynamics, and being 1.82m Zwift's calculations are wack. I done a 17km TT and held 340w, but was 3 minutes slower than a friend that done 300w - the only thing that could be considered is that I was 3.3w/kg and he was 4.2w/kg. The fact it was a pan-flat course, W/KG shouldn't make that much difference, and 340w for me is normally good for a 23.xx time outside.
@dunsedog
@dunsedog 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure on zwifts exact calculations but the height you put in makes a much larger difference on the flat. There are some videos on youtube of people testing it.
@TriathlonDan
@TriathlonDan 4 жыл бұрын
Because everyone is 50kg 😂
@Darren.Lindsay
@Darren.Lindsay 4 жыл бұрын
50kg and about 5ft2". Because everyone at that setting can do 7w/kg and finish in about 18 minutes.
@TriathlonDan
@TriathlonDan 4 жыл бұрын
Darren Lindsay exactly. They’ll be going well later this year when road stuff re-opens!
@Henry-gv8gj
@Henry-gv8gj 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 115 pounds and 5 foot 4 so everyone just assumes I'm cheating in zwift when in reality I'm 14 years old stop assuming that everyone who is 50 kg is lying about their weight
@01FozzyS
@01FozzyS 4 жыл бұрын
Chanel can give Phil Ligget a run for his money.
@torus186
@torus186 Жыл бұрын
What's the point of using your TT bike, I'd use a comfy road bike, not worried about being aero for these.
@TheGinger1
@TheGinger1 4 жыл бұрын
GT2 RS: my man!!!!
@sgalenchapmanjr7456
@sgalenchapmanjr7456 4 жыл бұрын
My wife totally agrees with you about touching the soggy clothes! All I could do was just laugh.
@deronlawrence6793
@deronlawrence6793 4 жыл бұрын
Zipp makes disc wheels, just look at all of them
@legbfreeski
@legbfreeski 4 жыл бұрын
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