Why Israel’s ultra-Orthodox Jews might soon have to serve in the military

Why Israel’s ultra-Orthodox Jews might soon have to serve in the military | DW News

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Since Israel’s founding, ultra-Orthodox Jews in the country have been exempt from serving in the military so they can better devote themselves to religious study.
Today they number some 66,000 but last month, Israel's top court effectively lifted that exemption, triggering huge protests from the Orthodox community.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government has until the end of the month to agree on a new conscription plan.
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@Mouse22Critical 27 күн бұрын

They are angry not because they have to serve in military but because this will shows that they are not special from the regular Israeli people.

@omarlittle-hales8237 27 күн бұрын

SALaM, SHLAMa, SHLOMo, SHALoM, NAMASTe, PEACe. Book Of Enoch [Noah's Grandfather]: “Happy Is The Person Whom Opens His Lips, Praising The Lord God With His Whole Heart. Cursed Is Every Person Whom Opens His Heart For Insulting, The Poor And Slanders His Neighbour. Happy Is He Who Opens His lips, Both Blessing And Praising God. Cursed Is He Whom Opens His Lips For Cursing And Blasphemy. Happy Whom Blesses All The Works Of The LORD. Cursed Whom Despises Any Of The LORD’s Creatures. Happy Whom Looks Carefully To The Raising Up Of The Works Of His Own Hand. Cursed Whom Looks Sad And Is Jealous To Destroy Another. Happy Whom Preserves The Foundations Of His Most Ancestors, Cursed Whom Breaks Down The Institutions Of His Ancestors. Happy Whom Cultivates The Love Of Peace, Cursed Whom Disturbs Those Whom Are Peaceful, Full Of Love. Happy Is He, Whom Even Though He Does Not Speak Peace With His Tongue, Nevertheless In His Heart There Is Peace Towards All. Cursed whom With His Tongue Speaks Peace, But In His Heart There Is No Peace But A Sword. For All These Things (Will Be Weighed) In The Balances, And Exposed In The Books On The Great Judgment Day. tODa rABa

@dmblake4 27 күн бұрын

They are not special at all.

@giraffeorganic 27 күн бұрын

Special ed

@ChronicCraftsman 27 күн бұрын

They want the benefits of living in a civilised, decent country but don't want to contribute to it like every other citizen has to. Its unfair and disrespectful to the soldiers fighting and the ones that died fighting for Israel.

@user-ry6uf5dp1l 27 күн бұрын

Three state legislators 😂😂❤everyone independent 😂

@pevlez 27 күн бұрын

They don't want to serve but they want to keep goverment subsidies

@billyponsonby 27 күн бұрын

These fellas don’t look like the guns and ammo humping type.

@commandoslayer 27 күн бұрын

Will they be able to survive without those subsidies?

@AjithKumar-ih6sz 27 күн бұрын

Its just like Israelis, they get American money but dont want to be questioned by Americans about the money being used for Genocide.

@micholli 27 күн бұрын

Everyone on Israel is living off of American welfare

@pevlez 27 күн бұрын

@@billyponsonby that's why there's boot camp...

@NestorMakhno1789 27 күн бұрын

You cannot have such a large chunk of the population sucking up resources from the state while contributing nothing. The selfishness and lack of logic here is confusing.

@verynice5574 27 күн бұрын

Your ignorance is stunning.

@awesomemike996 27 күн бұрын

@@verynice5574you must be one of them 😂

@tt-hv8ux 27 күн бұрын

We have similar issue here in the States 😂 and that keeps growing.

@artoffderidikulous3009 27 күн бұрын

Yeah, the billionaires!

@tt-hv8ux 27 күн бұрын

@@artoffderidikulous3009 Contributing nothing? sucking up resources from the state? LOL. Obviously, you don't have a paycheck, or that paycheck comes from the state to say that. Only loser is jealous of other's success.

@Gabriel-dj3kf 27 күн бұрын

So, they want to live in the country, but don't want to defend it 🤔

@A-B553 25 күн бұрын

Can you defend something stolen?

@mlw_esq 25 күн бұрын

@@A-B553You say stolen, but you mean conquered. Also the answer is obviously, yes.

@tero9323 25 күн бұрын

They don't want Israel. They want to live in their land like palestinan.

@kakashisensei9258 25 күн бұрын

I agree with them. I live in the US and I refuse to join the US military. Forced conscription sounds like fascism to me.

@visitante-pc5zc 25 күн бұрын

@kakashisensei9258 ypu mean socialism

@HakimOne 27 күн бұрын

This is hilarious. They are the most extremist group from the Israel side(Palestine side have too). Now that they are required to fight for what they always wanted, they are angy 😂

@HKim0072 27 күн бұрын

Was thinking the same thing. This is the hard right group with the hawkish position.

@magnobraga4619 27 күн бұрын

80% of their wives work to provide for them no study torah and pray. Why do you think they would like to serve in military?

@hassanmeraj8037 27 күн бұрын

They follow the female tactics, get the benefit with no work 🤣😅😂

@davidbenhaim751 27 күн бұрын

I can see why someone with a countertop understanding of Israeli society may say that. The reality is that the ultra orthodox are pacifists and the ultra orthodox parties, in the 90s, supported Oslo (two-state solution). You may be confusing the hareidi ultra-orthodox with the nationalist orthodox (some of whom call themselves nationist hareidi orthodox) who genrally take the extreme and hawkish positions you are thinking of.

@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 27 күн бұрын

Yep, chickenhawks are what those people are called. They talk a BIG war game...as long as someone else is risking their life!

@bellar5390 27 күн бұрын

Stop giving them money, all they want is to live for free.

@danpress7745 24 күн бұрын

Not only $ remove their defense as well. Thus, no soldier or police in their areas, if attackers come, oh well.

@NameName-ll2yx Күн бұрын

@@danpress7745God shall sort their problems, not us heathens and our evil society. 😂

@danpress7745 9 сағат бұрын

@@NameName-ll2yx yep, Sheva does wonderful things.

@eccentricbeliever7 27 күн бұрын

Are these the same guys that don't work and depend fully on government support and have like 8 kids per couple

@mashkanyc 27 күн бұрын

lol yes

@susanohnhaus611 25 күн бұрын

Only 8? Slackers.

@mattfontana 25 күн бұрын

at least not between cousins as in gaza , remember these families with around 30 members? wait maybe now they are just 3 left 🤣

@lansvale28 25 күн бұрын

And also don’t have education and hate everyone (including other orthodox sects)

@karlscher5170 25 күн бұрын

Stone age fanatics are the same, jevvish or musI im

@casewargaming6432 27 күн бұрын

So they support the war in Gaza but want others to do the fighting for them

@Home4Facts 24 күн бұрын

Where did you get that? That they support it?

@dneroaddiction 24 күн бұрын

@@Home4Factsthat hat boi couldn’t even answer the question of the reporter only dodging it

@UB00F 23 күн бұрын

Welcome to Israel

@ollie1795 9 күн бұрын

They should move to America, they'd do well here

@jeremiah939 27 күн бұрын

ben shapiro can sign up first

@bjolie78 27 күн бұрын

He's more of a cheerleader

@Pou1gie1 27 күн бұрын

Or Netanyahu's sons, who are perpetually vacationing???

@quellepls2568 27 күн бұрын

I love this. @@bjolie78

@billyponsonby 27 күн бұрын

Speed talking chipmunk.

@bobbenjy6426 27 күн бұрын

His intellect is a big problem for folks of your ilk. 😂

@jmesa951 27 күн бұрын

Subsidized for reading old books and having kids... of course they don't want a change. Ludicrous

@omarlittle-hales8237 27 күн бұрын

@mashkanyc 27 күн бұрын

They’re really amazing haha what a life 😅

@mike_d_melb_music_fan5229 25 күн бұрын

As I understand it, ultra orthodox scholars get a stipend from the government and don't have to work?

@danielcaldwell1110 24 күн бұрын

This guy talks about change as if going abroad. It's war, you know what that is? Obviously not. Maybe you should try to be on the frontlines of a conflict. Thinking it's something cool like playing call of duty.

@saltysocks1074 23 күн бұрын

@@danielcaldwell1110 If your country's in existential danger and everybody else is getting drafted, why are you unique?

@otufemiotuyemi5877 27 күн бұрын

A good example of eating your cake and having it.

@aravel5249 27 күн бұрын

"We want the protection of the IDF, we want the subsidies from the government to study and we want the right to vote and choose the government BUT we dont want to fight for these rights."

@angellee7329 27 күн бұрын

If women can fight, you can fight.

@omarlittle-hales8237 27 күн бұрын

@rogermas6087 27 күн бұрын

Can

@adrirod4603 27 күн бұрын

Exactly

@Richard-ug4el 27 күн бұрын

Good chance a lot of them are cowardly draft dodgers. If you want to support the war, go fight on the front lines for a while. See if you're still in favor afterwards.

@BA-ho7dw 27 күн бұрын

"Fight" aka occupy

@eastern2western 27 күн бұрын

They should call up bibi's son, who is hiding in miami.

@kreb7 27 күн бұрын

Bibi fought in the front lune when Israel was in peril hamas leader with his biliobs is in Oman

@juancarlosalonso5664 27 күн бұрын

kreb7 Netanyahu, is that you?

@omarlittle-hales8237 27 күн бұрын

@jimwright1148 27 күн бұрын

I can imagine bibi on the phone to Schults singing,"anything you can do? We can do better!" 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇵🇸

@solodad7999 27 күн бұрын

All 18-22 year old must serve. Male & females

@nicoresnik2943 26 күн бұрын

Notice how they too say they don’t care about the suffering in Gaza. They just want their special perks for reading

@JP-oe4ry 26 күн бұрын

66,000 people who offer nothing to their society. Studying the Bible full time has to be the most pointless endeavour in the universe.

@chrismccartney8668 27 күн бұрын

Why should they be exempt and Make others die on their behalf !!

@Randy-MacDonald 25 күн бұрын

They’ve been doing it for a LONG time. Part of their grift.

@marcushawkins8490 23 күн бұрын

Don't be so anti-simetic

@Randy-MacDonald 23 күн бұрын

@@marcushawkins8490 first off, it’s spelled Semitic, professor. I’m not anti anything,I’m pro truth.

@JustAnotherYouTubeCommenter 23 күн бұрын

nobody should be dying in this war

@jaybartgis5148 23 күн бұрын

@@Randy-MacDonaldhe's obviously being sarcastic.

@amandacollyer645 27 күн бұрын

If you want a country, be prepared to defend it. If not, no one else needs to.

@edinhusic8892 27 күн бұрын

I think they actually do NOT want the country now, but only once Messiah comes

@user-em5wy8zx7o 27 күн бұрын

This applies to all religions, or all religious sects that have similar attitudes or their attitudes have the same effect: not wanting to fight in defense of the state on religious grounds (including the grounds that their religious teachings teach the principle of non-violence).

@jlover2769 27 күн бұрын

How many countries do you own now...

@JoaoSoares-rs6ec 27 күн бұрын

exactly

@RonaldRubinronaldrubinvs 27 күн бұрын

Let them believe in what they believe don’t oppress the minority its a not democratic

@pisces89 27 күн бұрын

Why do they expect to be protected by everyone else?

@Kay-ph1kb 27 күн бұрын

I suppose they were granted that privilege for such a long time that it is difficult to give it up. But give it up they must. I did read that some of the younger generation are voluntarily joining the IDF but a small minority.

@victorc4474 27 күн бұрын

no subsidies if refuse

@telanos2492 27 күн бұрын

These same people are among the most bloodthristy warmongers within Israeli politics. How convenient that they don't have to actually fight in the wars they all but demand. I'm guessing they might be a little less bloodthirsty if they were themselves required to go to the front lines of the same fights they so eagerly advocate for.

@SinaZarin 27 күн бұрын

It has always been like that. Look at US politicians.

@Crustymarine 27 күн бұрын

And this is not unique to Israel. The few pull the cart, while many ride in the cart.

@Skakel2012 27 күн бұрын

Yep and America pays for it all.

@christianx8494 27 күн бұрын

@@Skakel2012 And so do we.

@danielrevach319 27 күн бұрын

No they are not... you're confusing them with the religious nationalist far right. The Ultra-Orthodox are quite disinterested and peaceful, even if their political representatives are quite corrupt and anti-establishment. Do your homework buddy why spread hate and misinformation.

@billyponsonby 27 күн бұрын

Astonishing what an extreme dogmatic view can get some people into.

@teamTERF 27 күн бұрын

They've been in their extreme dogmatic views for thousands of years!😁😁😁

@sampicano 27 күн бұрын

Trump 2024

@juancarlosalonso5664 27 күн бұрын

sampicano Speaking of dogmatic views…

@sampicano 27 күн бұрын

@@juancarlosalonso5664 "Astonishing what an extreme dogmatic view can get some people into." Me: Trump 2024 You: [joke goes over your head]

@OrphicPolytheist 26 күн бұрын

Not wanting to kill people is "extremist" now? 🙄

@GregBirkin 26 күн бұрын

Good, have Ben Shapiro serve next.

@thesilverystars8888 26 күн бұрын

Ben Shapiro is American citizen

@sulaimation6253 25 күн бұрын

@@thesilverystars8888 he is also Isreali citizen

@suntzu94 25 күн бұрын

@@thesilverystars8888he’s Israeli first then American, but he’s a tough guy behind a camera. We all know Ben beta Shapiro would be the first to run away

@007kingifrit 24 күн бұрын

@@suntzu94 he is morally correct in what he says he doesn't need to fight to prove it. we don't all need to fight if we think fighting is right. some fight so others don't have to

@user-is9dg1iv3o 23 күн бұрын

@@sulaimation6253 ben is not haredi if he needed to fight he would have already done it years ago

@chaosXP3RT 27 күн бұрын

Personally, I believe the most hawkish, Pro-War should have to join the military

@Willowflat16 23 күн бұрын

If the children of every pro-war politician had to join the front lines, things would be very different, wouldn't they?

@jasonbeatty831 27 күн бұрын

“That’s not the issue here”. Heh. Means he does support the war against Gaza

@Christopher0632 27 күн бұрын

Of course he does.

@alexbries3018 27 күн бұрын

It means the government is cracking down on anyone who speaks out

@JoaoSoares-rs6ec 27 күн бұрын

thats BS, what they said are they don't want to lose the privilege they had for so long.

@gabedaxe477 27 күн бұрын

He wants a country but he can’t defend it?

@HKim0072 27 күн бұрын

They are the hard right. And, the ones always causing trouble in the illegal settlements.

@prabhdeepdhahan1147 27 күн бұрын

So they want free subsidies from the state to study the Torah but not have to serve in the military to defend their country?

@jassimmudhaf234 25 күн бұрын

Funny thing is is that in the video they do not approve the legitimacy of the country😂😂

@kikithepupper6774 8 күн бұрын

Lol they want to live for free and live off loopholes of the law

@lemontek6897 26 күн бұрын

1:03 "Many of the men brought their holy books with them to the protest" ...reminds me of when I brought my collection of Harry Potter books to the Job Centre to show how busy I was that I simply couldn't work

@growupjohnny9374 25 күн бұрын

Want to enjoy freedom without having to work for it.

@valendrawijaya7302 27 күн бұрын

Absolute coward

@TPF443 27 күн бұрын

So is Israel fighting against arabs/Islam and now their own people

@wrektlevel1491 27 күн бұрын

Lmao absolutely. He wouldn't say if he supports the war in Gaza. I'm assuming he does but is too much of a coward to serve. So he's hiding behind religion.

@washuneluvhada7616 27 күн бұрын

You'll never see Russians forcing people to be conscripted like this of Ukraine and Israel, democracy my foot😂😂😂

@gavinlenobel174 27 күн бұрын

Russia has conscription wth are you talking about. They had conscription before 2022

@giod6266 27 күн бұрын

@@washuneluvhada7616 Oh, oh, oh, you are so funny.. This is heppaning bc of nessesety!!! Both Ukraine and Israel are MUCH smaller countries with smal populations, they need military, they need numbers! That is why!

@Lifeisfakedreamsarereal-wb3lm 27 күн бұрын

Life isn’t free , nobody gets a free ride.

@ChrisantusMachuka 25 күн бұрын

Yep,freedom ain't either!!

@asperganoid 25 күн бұрын

This might be the final nail in Netanyahu's political coffin

@cesaravegah3787 25 күн бұрын

If you receive more money from the government than you pay on taxes you shouldnt vote, if you are not willing to fight on defense of your nation you shouldnt live there.

@Clydeb_9994 27 күн бұрын

It should'nt be controversial at all. They should'nt be given any special treatment!

@Christopher0632 27 күн бұрын

If they say they are the people of the Bible (which is highly questionable), the original Children of Israel in the scripture fought in battle. King David was a soldier.

@MrJdsenior 27 күн бұрын

Boy, they aren't going to like your comment, not at all. WAYYY to much facts and logic sorts of things going on there,

@omarlittle-hales8237 27 күн бұрын

@abdurahmonyunusov7422 27 күн бұрын

They are indeed following the bible unlike you guys, i,e don't steal , don't kill etc

@Christopher0632 27 күн бұрын

@@abdurahmonyunusov7422 They're living on stolen land and are some of the most shrewd politicians in Israel. They aren't against what's happening to the Palestinians at all, they just don't want to serve but keep receiving government welfare. GTFOH, lol.

@Christopher0632 26 күн бұрын

@@abdurahmonyunusov7422 Yeah, Ok. You've obviously never checked the rate of child sexual abuse within this group. They're heavily involved in politics in Israel as well so the notion that they have no connection to society is patently false.

@jonnyrondo507 26 күн бұрын

How did they ever get away with this? 'You go and fight and die, I don't have to because I'm reading a book' If I had to serve, I'd be beyond pissed!

@jessicayoung9670 27 күн бұрын

You expect others to fight and die to protect you, but you won't fight for them or yourselves?

@mabhodlelajj1195 27 күн бұрын

These clowns shouldn't get protection from IDF and other Israel security forces. If anything happen to them, IDF shouldn't even react.

@omarlittle-hales8237 27 күн бұрын

@tero9323 25 күн бұрын

IDF only brings war and terror.

@TheAlbinoskunk 24 күн бұрын

Ironically, because the Ultra-Orthodox neighbourhoods of Jerusalem are close to the Green Line, the Haredim are disproportionately impacted by stabbings and shootings from Palestinians who come from the West Bank.

@brekerr 27 күн бұрын

Be interesting to see if this effects the orthodox attitude to military action and occupation.

@VodkaPandas 27 күн бұрын

Ultra Orthodox always oppose Israel occupations, the one that wrong ist the settler comes from Europe, they want the country but doesn't wan to fight for it.

@JoaoSoares-rs6ec 27 күн бұрын

it doesn't

@AWriterWandering 27 күн бұрын

@@VodkaPandas they don’t necessarily want the country either. Many orthodox believe that Israel should not exist until after the Messiah actually comes.

@VodkaPandas 27 күн бұрын

@@AWriterWandering That is what I was talking about, the Orthodox are read the torah, while the settler dosen't.

@supernova7848 27 күн бұрын

@@VodkaPandas the Neturei Karta are the ones who oppose the occupation, these aren’t necessarily opposed to the occupation or the wa r, they just believe they have a g od given right not to take part in it .

@elrondes1 25 күн бұрын

"They don't see themselves as Israeli" - So that means they would have no issue leaving the country of Israel then? They want to live there, enjoy Israeli protection and benefits, but are exempt because they're "Torah Scholars" lmao

@ianmcmillan5887 22 күн бұрын

"THEYD RATHER DIE THEN SPARE THEIR TRADITION" immediately tries to defend not fighting lmao

@geeksworkshop 27 күн бұрын

Because it's a complete scapegoat out of the military.

@MrTsiolkovsky 24 күн бұрын

thats...not what that word means...

@geeksworkshop 23 күн бұрын

@@MrTsiolkovsky Yeah, thought that. but it seemed to work. What word would you use?

@faridy92 27 күн бұрын

No worries, there will always be an American, British, and European soldiers to defend them 😅

@marymay3343 27 күн бұрын

So far, there's no much use of UN forces which are meant to keep peace at Israeli-Lebanon border. They even can't make Hezbollah move back the Litani river according, which Hezbollah must do according to international agreements

@cathyb46 26 күн бұрын

Check out videos at Horseguards in London they are very disrespectful to the guards (actual serving soldiers when not in ceremonial uniform to be found in tanks etc) Would like to know why they stand and stare at them for a very long time.

@cynthiashaw45 8 күн бұрын

The rest of the world has provide the tools for Israel to be able to defend themselves. They also provide weapons and the the aid to help Gaza. The greatest minds in the world have worked a century to bring peace to the Middle East. Some died trying. WE ARE DONE work it out between yourselves we give up trying. October 7 was our last straw.

@chiriematthieu 26 күн бұрын

If you don t want to serve and protect, to do your duty as a citizen, then you shouldn t have the same right. They shouldn t vote.

@josephhoward3558 27 күн бұрын

I think the army is exactly what they need.

@AyanokoG 3 күн бұрын

Exactly, they need to toughen up

@kevink3688 27 күн бұрын

You don’t want to serve in the military? Fine. No Iron Dome for you.

@lintran3211 27 күн бұрын

they need to be sent OUTSIDE of the Iron Dome coverage, preferably cohabitate with the other Arabs......LOL

@watercutterlan1401 27 күн бұрын

@@lintran3211 pls learn more

@Super-og1ph 27 күн бұрын

No one should be enslaved by the military. Slavery should be abolished worldwide. People should have a right of self-determination. After all, they pay taxes for a reason.

@okman9684 27 күн бұрын

@@Super-og1phyou can't pay your way out of war. Money becomes useless during the time of anarchy

@laithmughrabi8990 27 күн бұрын

@@Super-og1ph then they should start getting a job instead of smashing their heads in the Torah.

@revolutionarydefeatism 27 күн бұрын

The most democratic and secular country in the Middle East (my finger!) is ruled by the most fundamentalist religious group!

@colin8696908 27 күн бұрын

there's actually a really good quote in "legends of the galactic hero's" about this.

@chengchiu957 27 күн бұрын

Its a democracy with apartheid state system that has settler violence, do you know anything about that barbaric country bro?

@jackduane5555 27 күн бұрын

If this group 'ruled' Israel, and didn't want to be drafted, why are they being drafted? Clearly critical thinking is not your strong suit

@vitorlopes2064 27 күн бұрын

Exactly

@user-ct7mw9yu6n 27 күн бұрын

@@chengchiu957wwo is the occupier the Ottoman or British empire

@1988vikable 25 күн бұрын

They think they are too special to be in war.

@azaharis 26 күн бұрын

They are leeches of the system but won’t serve the system. It’s about time that law was changed. For those who don’t know, they can live tax free in Israel as long as they study Orthodox Judaism and have children. Those children also live tax free. Over time this puts heavy stress on the system.

@AyanokoG 3 күн бұрын

Who decides who is ultra orthodox? Why doesnt every one claim to be ultra orthodox? Or is it some form of caste system and you inherit it from your parents?

@user-vi2dk1qz5f 27 күн бұрын

All should serve or move out of there.

@watercutterlan1401 27 күн бұрын

learn more

@dave84111 27 күн бұрын

yes all serve, but when attacked all claim to be innocent civilians.

@gaborrajnai6213 27 күн бұрын

Why should they move out of their lands? Its their land not government property.

@CowboyConan 27 күн бұрын

@@gaborrajnai6213 It’s not their land, they stole it. They are thieves.

@genevieve4418 27 күн бұрын

And go where exactly? We don't want them!!!

@patrick-po2lx 27 күн бұрын

Since they appear to be driving the political process in their country, the absolute least they can do is serve like the rest.

@erickkisreal9398 25 күн бұрын

lol they want the land but they don't want to fight for it. Hypocrisy at its finest

@Wizard080 27 күн бұрын

Desmond Doss was a pacifist and he still served along side everyone as a unarmed field medic in WW2. In times of war, everyone has a duty to their home, if you don’t wanna kill people become a medic, engineer, mechanic, technician or some other non-combatant role.

@Kay-ph1kb 27 күн бұрын

point well made.

@gagamba9198 25 күн бұрын

And the Hutterites were so pacifistic that they saw all support roles as forbidden. They, like the Amish and Mennonites, don't even allow themselves self defence. Just about the only people who take the command to 'turn the other cheek' literally. They refused any role including home front ones such as forestry, refused to wear the uniform and drill, were sent to prison, and two were killed by their jailers.

@AmonAnon-vw3hr 24 күн бұрын

@gagamba9198 why don't they refuse government money too?

@gagamba9198 24 күн бұрын

@@AmonAnon-vw3hr Don't recall much 'government money', which I understand you to mean benefits, in the 1910s. Social security didn't exist. Nor did welfare, unemployment, etc. That said, are they required to pay tax? If so, then they are allowed to access the entitlements they paid for when they meet the requirements. Now, those who refuse to serve in the military exclude themselves to legs up given veterans, such as education (GI bill), small-business loans, and gov't employment.

@hypothalapotamus5293 22 күн бұрын

These aren't pacifists, though.

@takkie2089 27 күн бұрын

So those who pushed for this war the hardes refused to fight it themselfs... How nice

@MrJdsenior 27 күн бұрын

Can I introduce you to some Congressmen I have known of, down through the years?

@AmonAnon-vw3hr 24 күн бұрын

It's been like that for centuries. Of course, the wars they pushed for always cost European lives.

@dianemay7816 27 күн бұрын

I am Israeli women I served in the idf, I served during the Lebanon war with hezbulh it was mandatory it still is. This is so unfair for us secular Israelis we have to give years of ur lives, we start to work and study on university much years later. We get paid a ridiculous a mount of money...the orthodox Israelis don't go the army, start their lives sooner and get so much discounts in everything, they have no duties but have so much rights.

@laithmughrabi8990 27 күн бұрын

Don't mention how fast they multiply.

@CowboyConan 27 күн бұрын

Think about how unfair it is for Palestinians. Are you still complaining??? 🤦‍♀️

@albertorg4085 27 күн бұрын

Well, you know what to do: keep protesting and complaining to end that unfair situation.

@dianemay7816 27 күн бұрын

@cjones4891 did you watched this video? It's about how the orthodox are not drafting while secular Israelis do draft.....

@dianemay7816 27 күн бұрын

@cjones4891 they actually started this war and still support hamas....did you saw the videos of them enjoying on the beach or beating Yarden Bibas? They have more food than before october 7th. You know that the beaches near otef aza are still close and people displaced from south and north...

@conorredmond6217 27 күн бұрын

a lifetime to study one book.. they must be bright

@MrJdsenior 27 күн бұрын

As he pointed out, at least one of them remembered to bring it with him, too!

@wilsonryan100 27 күн бұрын

Not the issue so what he’s trying to say is I want other people to die for me, but I’m not gonna do that for them.

@sundip8849 27 күн бұрын

They're forcing Wizards to equip swords and heavy armours ?

@laithmughrabi8990 27 күн бұрын

No.. just give them magical wands and "AvraKadavra Khamas", those people contribute negative income to the economy.

@Observerd.s 27 күн бұрын

The funniest comment I have ever seen 😂

@AdamBechtol 27 күн бұрын

Lol

@AdamBechtol 27 күн бұрын

@@Observerd.s It's SOOO FUNNNY lol. Just hidden out in the corner of the internet. Seemingly by a bot, but too clever to be.

@datt5698 23 күн бұрын

That's messed up! They already put all their attribute points towards mana and life instead of strength and dexterity!!!

@smokeystover70 27 күн бұрын

They need to man up and serve their country that provides them with their security and freedom!

@yvonnefurniss138 27 күн бұрын

Not their country they took it from the Palestinians.

@marymay3343 27 күн бұрын

@@yvonnefurniss138please, stop it

@awesomemike996 27 күн бұрын

@@yvonnefurniss138I’ve found the Palestinian

@mattsmith8929 27 күн бұрын

@@yvonnefurniss138pretty sure the brits gave it to the both of them, the brits took it from the ottomans so on and so forth since people lived there, Greeks and Roman’s had it long before Palestine did so does that mean Italy should invade too because it was theirs

@chuckscott-cy7iq 26 күн бұрын

Imagine putting gun in the hands of someone who you Forced to be in your army. 😳

@spiralflame88 25 күн бұрын

1:37 Guy supports the war and has no issues sending others to fight.

@user-yx8zl2xq1w 23 күн бұрын

It is time you protect your country.

@LokiTheGodofMischief 27 күн бұрын

So they can't live off the meager earnings of their wives and the state?

@MarcusLangbart 27 күн бұрын

I was schocked when my israeli friend told me that orthodox women have to work while males pray the entire day.

@audreyberdugo4327 27 күн бұрын

I’m one of those people and am an attorney. Wouldn’t say it’s meager 😊

@StevenKeery 27 күн бұрын

@@audreyberdugo4327: So what do the women work at? Does that community receive a lot of social security subsidies? What about roles in the army such as medics, logistics?

@ElonHusky 27 күн бұрын

@@MarcusLangbart Why shocked Is that what feminist want right ?

@Grimmes12 27 күн бұрын

@@ElonHusky that's exactly what Im saying, if women can stay home why cant men?

@chillymonkeys7772 27 күн бұрын

Bullies often don't like getting picked on

@czahc0s176 19 күн бұрын

ALL OF ISRAEL XD

@johndoe-zf8kg 25 күн бұрын

imagine fighting your own country instead of fighting FOR your country

@DKLaw49 25 күн бұрын

So their entire existence is about getting paid to read a book? They're not men, sounds like your average 5 year old

@theblackmindset2154 27 күн бұрын

Is her relatives and love one's in the army ? why netanyahu son is not part of the army yet ??😢😢

@thorgodofhammers1556 27 күн бұрын

Why are you not part of the army ?! 😢

@theblackmindset2154 27 күн бұрын

@@thorgodofhammers1556 I'm not israeli 😢 are they looking for foreigners to fight for them ?

@hanilov 27 күн бұрын

Exactly, they are all safe and mother's have to loose their son's.

@MakIyen 27 күн бұрын

@@thorgodofhammers1556 r u 😂😂😂

@user-bs9hm6gg9i 27 күн бұрын

he served in the army. not everyone in the idf or american army are on combatant service. not every single israeli who served in the idf was called on reserve. his younger son was field intelligence. cabinet member and former chief general of the idf gadi eizenkot lost a son fighting in gaza. its sure more than most of the islamists in the west who chant for gaza but find it sufficient to intimidate people critical of islam or "apostates" or hindus instead...

@user-jc7jb3bu5s 27 күн бұрын

This is what cowards do.

@user-ru3ql6ji4p 26 күн бұрын

You give Them a finger and soon They want a hand. You give Them a hand and soon They want an arm. You give Them an arm, and soon there's nothing left to give.

@Littlefool326 24 күн бұрын

If they aren’t pacifists and sent little kids to clash with the IDF. Then why can’t they enlist? Seems very cowardly. That one guy couldn’t even answer the interviewers question about being pro or against the war. Lock em up like he said if he’s really about it.

@stevenm732 27 күн бұрын

They could serve in logistics or other non front line roles. Fact of the matter is those people get a lot of special treatment in Israel, not just not being required to serve but also financially and taxes status. At least that is my understanding and I could be wrong in that.

@Ignazio_Avulso 27 күн бұрын

As far as I know, they constitute the poorest group in Israeli society. Their salaries are sometimes even lower than those of Palestinian workers who work in Israel.

@billyponsonby 27 күн бұрын

@@Ignazio_Avulsounderstandable because they do no work.

@ycplum7062 27 күн бұрын

@@Ignazio_Avulso Those are not "salaries". Salaries are payment for work. They are subsidies, hand-outs. Money given to them so they don't starve while they "study", although that one guy being interviewed looks like he isn't starving.

@mashkanyc 27 күн бұрын

Yes, most of them don’t work. Often their wives do. Usually much better education for the women in those sects too.

@JeffEbe-te2xs 27 күн бұрын

Don’t even do that

@cameo777 27 күн бұрын

These guys are funny. They say the state was not meant to be created until the messiah comes but they migrated to the state after creation 😂.

@Alastair_Adana 27 күн бұрын

Their book of fairy tales calls for no violence. But look at what they’re doing

@verynice5574 27 күн бұрын

The state was formed around them. They were already there.

@mikicerise6250 27 күн бұрын

You're as smart as a pile of bricks.

@cameo777 27 күн бұрын

@verynice5574 what's ur prove they were already. Can you stake ur reputation to state their was no migration at all?.

@cameo777 27 күн бұрын

@@mikicerise6250 how smart are you?.

@junaidakbar7411 24 күн бұрын

Doesn’t bibi own son hides from the military by staying in Florida?

@Nick-di9dv 13 күн бұрын

Its True

@Angry20Something 27 күн бұрын

No one should have an ounce of respect for this. They want to live there qnd collect subsidies but dont agree with it being a state. The want the wars but dont want to fight in them. And none of them have any inkling of how hypocritical they are. Stunning cognitive dissonance. Also, Israel seems quite desperate for soldiers. Maybe they should knock it off.

@harry-vt7ep 27 күн бұрын

Oh wait they don't have to fight no wonder they love war soo much

@devapala879 27 күн бұрын

They don't want to be part of the country or participate in secular life....then why do they have two political parties that are helping to keep Netanyahu in power?

@user-nz2oz3wb7z 24 күн бұрын

Because lapids party wants to secularize them not Netanyahu so all their doing is saving their own skin

@Tom_Quixote 26 күн бұрын

Why are these called "ultra-orthodox" and not "fundamentalist"?

@lansvale28 25 күн бұрын

They are. Just media bias.

@4rch91 26 күн бұрын

Huh? What about the politicians & their sons, why are they not recruited to serve in the military?

@caty863 27 күн бұрын

I am usually not pro-army but I feel differently about this one.

@dipanshuroy2011 27 күн бұрын

All citizens are the same.

@enaslavnic7982 27 күн бұрын

If all residents are the same in Israel, I wonder what status the Palestinians living in Israel have? Are they IDF soldiers killing Palestinians in Gaza?

@ThatJew 27 күн бұрын

Noooo they are special

@LESTIFISA 26 күн бұрын

Im special

@xirtam77 27 күн бұрын

FEMINIST COME AND FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS

@Just4Kixs 27 күн бұрын

Little boy @1:46 was like "what!? That's a big issue all right!! What are you talkin' about??"

@pandoraalberts5267 27 күн бұрын

Clearly a draft-dodger ruse, it should have been obvious what the outcome of this law would have been.

@Kay-ph1kb 27 күн бұрын

yes, very hard to take it away now they are used to it for many years.

@philippemarcil2004 27 күн бұрын

The military exemptions are for orthodox who study at a yeshiva (a religious school). So the orthodox community leadership really liked the exemption as a way to help increase enrollment in religious study over any other field of learning or economic activities. Their fear with the military draft is not the violence or loosing their children, is that without that exemption, their youth may decide to pursue a laic education because religious study won't shield you from serving in the military anymore.

@Kay-ph1kb 27 күн бұрын

well that makes sense from the leadership point of view - sounds like the leadership mindset will have to be worked on - perhaps as younger leadership comes through it might change - but not fast enough, the need is now.

@lansvale28 25 күн бұрын

I’d disagree. I think two reasons. Firstly, a large percentage of them fundamentally don’t believe in the current Israeli state being legitimate, and secondly they are entitled and have been isolated and pampered their whole lives so they feel they are better than everyone else. Why should they fight? They are better than the secular fighters.

@MillennialJesus 26 күн бұрын

damn, the world is obsessed with this little country.

@CanonessEllinor 25 күн бұрын

It’s a very weird little country. An internally unstable religious settler-state founded in the 20th century that is constantly at war is a lot more newsworthy than, say, Latvia.

@halimmaulanasafaat2021 23 күн бұрын

Between the choosen people there are ultra choosen people

@JoaoSoares-rs6ec 27 күн бұрын

the reason was because they had lost many rabis to the camps, but now their numbers are in the tens of thousands, this ins't about anti war, its because they don't want to be called to serve in the army, simple as that.

@fnbuy 27 күн бұрын

In the 40s?

@JoaoSoares-rs6ec 27 күн бұрын

@@fnbuy yes

@omarlittle-hales8237 27 күн бұрын

@mashkanyc 27 күн бұрын

Good point

@Kay-ph1kb 27 күн бұрын

well if they did not have other people fighting for them they would be losing rabbis again, and all their families. Don't they want to protect their families from the type of massacre seen 7/10. They must understand that you have to stick up for yourself and fight if you want Never Again.

@user-fl3sr2kh5c 27 күн бұрын

IDF said they didn’t lose many soldiers but they need all able bodied men? 🤔

@doujinflip 27 күн бұрын

Those on duty (especially reservists with civilian jobs) need to rotate out for recuperation.

@MrJdsenior 27 күн бұрын

Seriously, have you LOOKED at what is going on in that area? You don't think that maybe they think they need to enlarge their military a bit, I guess? Nothing like an "if not A, then why B' sort of argument where A and B can very much have literally nothing to do with one another. That was a strange statement.

@JeffEbe-te2xs 27 күн бұрын

Seen how many countries are against them

@007kingifrit 24 күн бұрын

it isn't about replacing soldiers, they have lost only a few dozen....but it is about optics and fairness

@gargarmikejaphett.3840 23 күн бұрын

Probably because a certain terrorist group in their northern border is an Iranian proxy that's ready to escalate things.

@orangutank626 22 күн бұрын

What’s crazy is that all of them are now going back to the USA… isn’t Israel their country?

@carbon2574 21 күн бұрын

They'll happily fight against the IDF about the problem but won't fight to defend the country 😅😅😅

@mazibondahamika5857 27 күн бұрын

Ben Shapiro should be the general

@ORO323 27 күн бұрын

Do you want to be conscripted or serve in the military? *_No._* Do you support the war in Gaza? *_"tHaT's NoT tHe IsSuE!"_*

@AniClips699 22 күн бұрын

They sent their children in as shields for the grown men shameful

@vHeartAndS0ul 25 күн бұрын

imagine supporting a war yet violently against serving in it 🤣🤣🤣 cowards

@abuanwp 27 күн бұрын

Do they even know that the other half of men are keeping them alive? lol!

@mashkanyc 27 күн бұрын

Most of them don’t work either but their wives do! Haha very comfortable position they got themselves

@l_kFF 25 күн бұрын

They believe that their prayers protects better. In general they say that if everyone had been prayed and obeyed religious rules, there would have been no need for the army because god will protect them

@abuanwp 24 күн бұрын

@@l_kFF hahaha!

@FlexibleFlyer50 27 күн бұрын

They want the freedom to practice their religion, then they need to defend that freedom. Freedom always comes with some aspect of personal sacrifice. My dad and four of his brothers were in WW2. They were Catholics, and they prayed and attended Mass. They prayed in the trenches, in foxholes, in hospitals, on ships, in bombers, and in submarines. God hears prayers no matter where you are. You don't need a big hat and special subsidies to have God hear your prayers.

@retrocat604 27 күн бұрын

No balls unlike those women who serve in the military for ages.

@NuYoRican718 27 күн бұрын

They have 3 strongholds in Brooklyn. Williamsburg,Crown Heights & Borough Park. Whenever family or friends visit Brooklyn they always confuse them with Amish. But real New Yorkers know what’s up.

@Kay-ph1kb 27 күн бұрын

Do they have to work in NY or do they get special exemption and government benefits to study?

@gagamba9198 25 күн бұрын

There are more than 22,000 Amish living in New York, just not NYC.