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Why it floods wood on New Zealand’s East Coast | 1News' John Campbell

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@joseslatter9276
@joseslatter9276 Жыл бұрын
Excellent and moving doco. Can only hope there is a concerted and well informed effort to remedy the issues.
@1NewsNZ
@1NewsNZ Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. We hope so too.
@lyricallyunwaxable1234
@lyricallyunwaxable1234 Жыл бұрын
​@@1NewsNZWhat about a well informed concerted effort about the total lies told about the concoction they passed off as a vaccine?
@JelMain
@JelMain Жыл бұрын
@@1NewsNZ You're copping out. Nothing's happened, so you'll have to take matters into your own hands and let the pollies scream.
@aquamarine_nz2296
@aquamarine_nz2296 Жыл бұрын
Why isn't it being broadcast on television. Few New Zealanders will see this.
@Alwyn_Nito
@Alwyn_Nito Жыл бұрын
@@1NewsNZ Excuse me, will surveillance be increased on shady people in the country with all the p00 China and Russia are up to + shady people/groups they bribe/buy
@treasuretrails
@treasuretrails Жыл бұрын
Thank you 1News for keeping your comment section open mad respect!
@mickeybiss
@mickeybiss Жыл бұрын
Thank you John Campbell, your story telling and real hard hit journalism I grew up with is top tier. Come on forestry industry, sort your stuff out. We need to keep NZ and the families who are affected safe long term. It's always about money. The government should step up and fix the issues, then fine the absolute crap out of the forestry industry. Otherwise nothing will get done
@kristofvilcockskin1891
@kristofvilcockskin1891 Жыл бұрын
Jesus - this is the most refreshing piece of TVNZ coverage I’ve seen in a LOOOOOONG time
@thecelticprince4949
@thecelticprince4949 Жыл бұрын
Good to see your still covering the important stories John.
@devonsilly
@devonsilly Жыл бұрын
such an exceptional way of expressing this horrible situation; peeling the layers back for those like myself who are aware that bad practice is happening, but am cognitively dissonant to the situation.
@karacollard7757
@karacollard7757 Жыл бұрын
If the government can't or won't help them......then we HAVE to. I don't know how, but they are OUR people down there. Isn't that what NZ is about? coming together and helping one another? I for one hope so.
@mattstewart376
@mattstewart376 Жыл бұрын
Or did the government cause it?
@Kingkong-gy5qt
@Kingkong-gy5qt Жыл бұрын
I live in napier and government has always been by our side. They alerted most of us by text to evacuate to high grounds. They Sent in many helicopters for search and rescue. Offered shelter food and money to those affected including myself.
@Jas-sm9et
@Jas-sm9et Жыл бұрын
Agree^
@mavr1215
@mavr1215 Жыл бұрын
Lucky you weren’t listening to 1ZB!
@chrismckellar9350
@chrismckellar9350 Жыл бұрын
It is the Forestry plantation owners responsibility to clean up their mess not the rate and tax payers. The NACTs wont tell the plantation owners to clean up their mess, as it is against their 'for profit at least costs' neoliberal economic policies - the business knows better is more efficient..
@eltongregory492
@eltongregory492 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou, finally some honesty coming from our media!
@royrolston5340
@royrolston5340 Жыл бұрын
The issue here is cost, in particular the cost to harvest trees by forestry logging contractors. Relative to overall forest returns the price to cut down and process trees to load trucks of logs has increased significantly over recent years especially on difficult steep land common on many forestry sites across NZ and especially sites on the East Coast. Forest Owners want to maximize a return from their crop and forestry logging contractors are competing with each other to get the work especially to secure continuity of work to keep their staff employed over the long term. Log returns over time have been steadily rising but not in general great enough to offset growing costs. On some sites it close to or not profitable to cut down trees. While logging companies can remove or make less slash it will come at a much greater cost, cost that logging contractors will have to pass on to make a profit themselves. In a lot of cases there will be No return for the grower, in fact they risk facing a large bill. If this becomes a reality then No forest owner is going to harvest their trees. Why would they? The trees can remain standing quite happily for many years. That means the downward industry that the trees create will collapse. No jobs and massive layoffs over the whole sector. That’s the bottom line here. It’s all down to cost.
@johneb80
@johneb80 Жыл бұрын
Make it happen I say !
@Dontstopbelievingman
@Dontstopbelievingman Жыл бұрын
Makes me sad that despite producing so much wood, good luck finding anything affordable made of solid wood here in NZ. Its all composite garbage, or excessively expensive as if pine was infused with gold. This is a paradise where the things we produce and the land itself are financially out of reach of the inhabitants.
@StrawBerry-ve8gy
@StrawBerry-ve8gy Жыл бұрын
Great journalistic reporting. Thank you. We live in a Hokianga Valley that has recently had the pines removed. Above rivers and bridges. When we walked up the hills after the trucks had taken away the last loads to the port we were absolutely disgusted by the amount of slash left. Just mind boggling. Whole trees scattered and in piles all over the land. There is so much slash to clear it would need thousands of $'s and weeks of work for a different land use so it's probable that it will be replanted again. Another disaster waiting to happen in the future. Why have they got away with this.
@gaelenecole4053
@gaelenecole4053 Жыл бұрын
Amen and Thank you 🙏 John ❤for speaking for the people
@thevalleygate625
@thevalleygate625 Жыл бұрын
Correct me if i am wrong but wasn't it a change in legislation that prevents forestry from burning slash in place now? I think the legislation was wanting to prevent more CO2 in the atmosphere by preventing burning in place? However when these logs rot they will release very similar amounts of CO2 as if they were burned except if they were burnt we wouldn't have the massive slash damage problem. It would have been good if Mr. Campbell had looked deeper into the government legislation changes that allowed this to happen. Forestry plays a part in this mess however I don't believe they are solely to blame. I agree that it is not the people on the ground that are getting rich through forestry, its the massive overseas corps. that have been allowed to buy in and operate here. Much respect to the hard working forestry workers who work in difficult conditions to provide for their families. However the massive mono culture planting of forestry has never been good for our land or for allowing the people to thrive.
@xaxazakxak4732
@xaxazakxak4732 Жыл бұрын
While the situation is awful and the doco is fairly informative, at 17:44 we have a minister starting to explain what they think needs to be done but the doco quickly fades this out. Isn't the minister's viewpoint something that deserves more time so we can evaluate it better - we're asking for the government to provide a solution after all?
@anneperratt9787
@anneperratt9787 Жыл бұрын
Media is Minister. Media will not question the government or the minister. That's why few Kiwis trust main stream media.
@johnthetruthseeker
@johnthetruthseeker Жыл бұрын
30 years ago as students we thought oh no pines not the answer and sure enough … great doco thanks
@Roy_Fuk
@Roy_Fuk Жыл бұрын
thank you john cambell
@ironclay3939
@ironclay3939 Жыл бұрын
12:55 John - please come up to Northland and witness what cuttings pine plants have done. This is not Carbon Credits this is Mountains of Hillsides washing out to sea - New Zealand needs a 9.9 Earthquake to lift the land and replace what we have lost in the last 30 days.
@wiremuclarke4600
@wiremuclarke4600 Жыл бұрын
Kia ora, Wiremu here, John's producer. We'd love to check that out. How do I get in touch with you?
@bitcoinmininginelsalvador6055
@bitcoinmininginelsalvador6055 Жыл бұрын
You did not show the ocean waterfront. Somewhere I saw coastal beaches covered in logs. Have not seen it since. Have you got footage?
@alanb9337
@alanb9337 Жыл бұрын
Facebk Air Ruatoria - after Cyclone Hale, 18th January beach water line covered in logs etc.
@yeahdefinitely6607
@yeahdefinitely6607 Жыл бұрын
7:20
@carolscabinas
@carolscabinas Жыл бұрын
Wow how very sad. Great doco and a lot to think about here.
@davidk6264
@davidk6264 Жыл бұрын
So much of NZ's countryside is an eyesore. I came across a picture of massive hillside erosion in NZ on Facebook. Everyone's response to that was to plant more pine trees.
@alma9227
@alma9227 Жыл бұрын
That's crazy keep replanting pine when the area is not been cleaned up! Come on foresty do the right thing..bagged the wood and sell it.
@caseybretz8297
@caseybretz8297 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Heath and safety doesn’t allow that
@Kaboomnz
@Kaboomnz Жыл бұрын
Welcome back John, good work with your doco. I voted for Mr Nash and quite frankly his response is weak as pi**. If he wants my vote again he'll need to stop walking on eggshells for the forestry industry and get them into a room to answer questions, open to the public. If these forestry company CEOs had any mana they'd front up and say something, gutless bastards.
@lyricallyunwaxable1234
@lyricallyunwaxable1234 Жыл бұрын
Welcome back? So did you miss all the dribble coming from that govt presstitute over the last 3yrs?
@kerrymouse7747
@kerrymouse7747 Жыл бұрын
I voted for him too. Even worked on his campaign in 2017. I now have nothing but contempt for him.
@Kaboomnz
@Kaboomnz Жыл бұрын
@@lyricallyunwaxable1234 Well, unlike you, John at least adds context to what he's criticizing.
@lyricallyunwaxable1234
@lyricallyunwaxable1234 Жыл бұрын
@@Kaboomnz Well, who'd believe they get protection from criticism too. Its F'n New Xiland now thanks to the sheep. See where it gets you Haaha!
@josefhotahi
@josefhotahi Жыл бұрын
@@Kaboomnz That clown is only highlighting what has happened previously but nothing was done about it. Gee whizz it's like they actually give themselves the ability to think for you.
@LadyDoom13
@LadyDoom13 Жыл бұрын
Sending love to everyone impacted by this ❤
@LadyDoom13
@LadyDoom13 Жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-c4p people are reeling man, that’s a pretty huge expectation from people who are really just needing love. I give it to anyone suffering, with no expectation back. Sending it to you to, respectfully I feel you need it 💙
@Anonymous-c4p
@Anonymous-c4p Жыл бұрын
@@LadyDoom13 I guess I'm seeing a world going against goodness/love is what I was trying to say💨🤍
@LadyDoom13
@LadyDoom13 Жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-c4p that’s understandable 🙏🏼 there’s not enough love out there huh! Much love to you and your whānau I hope you’re well and safe wherever you are nga mihi 💙
@Anonymous-c4p
@Anonymous-c4p Жыл бұрын
@@LadyDoom13 🙌🏼
@The01Ghost
@The01Ghost Жыл бұрын
Sadly the generations before us only thought of themselves, only thought in the moment of that time, on quite a greedy basis.. They never considered us, they (or, our own older generations) sold our lands for financial gain, for personal benefit.. The boomer generation was the worst for this.. Its a generational/social issue, and we as the younger generations will now have to live with the mistakes of our ancestors.. We, as the younger generation have every right to pass judgement on the older generation for what they have done to us..
@A_kiwis_view
@A_kiwis_view Жыл бұрын
True. The background is 40 years of he neoliberal economic era. The philosophy of greed is great, the more wealth you get from others the more you are to be admired. Reality has arrived and the bill is being delivered by an abused planet. We have to change.
@lorrainerichardson3280
@lorrainerichardson3280 Жыл бұрын
Not the generation before, the companies with money did it, cheating their way into buying the land. The boomer generation were very naive.
@spudpud-T67
@spudpud-T67 Жыл бұрын
And your kids will judge you just as badly for your greed and indiscretions too.
@quietkiwi7572
@quietkiwi7572 Жыл бұрын
A bloody good doco.
@marionm5311
@marionm5311 Жыл бұрын
Amazing Report. Absolutely 💔
@jordannicol7848
@jordannicol7848 Жыл бұрын
Great piece of journalism
@strugs
@strugs Жыл бұрын
Excellent story. Thank you for showing us!
@1NewsNZ
@1NewsNZ Жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening!
@lyricallyunwaxable1234
@lyricallyunwaxable1234 Жыл бұрын
​@@1NewsNZIs the head of tvNZ on a NZD2 million pa bonuses included salary like the last joker? Of course he is, got to pay off the govt mouth piece
@michaelsinclair8018
@michaelsinclair8018 Жыл бұрын
Informative and interesting. Well-presented as well. Best to NZ from AU
@fredio54
@fredio54 Жыл бұрын
Did you see friendlyjordies piece on NSW native logging destruction today? Horrendous.
@cherryharris8238
@cherryharris8238 Жыл бұрын
This practice by the Forestry was mentioned at an enquiry after the 1953 Tangiwai Disaster.
@alexsie3012
@alexsie3012 Жыл бұрын
The scale of this destructive pollution is staggering. It is shameful that forestry plantation was presented as the solution to reduce soil erosion and potential flood damage when its core objective was exporting clear felled timber. Planting native forests is the obvious solution. That should have been done after Bola. It definitively needs to happen now. Id like to see the forestry industry commit to this work and be a leader in making it happen.
@bevangibbs8492
@bevangibbs8492 Жыл бұрын
love you JC , you are such a good bloke
@BritishAnts
@BritishAnts Жыл бұрын
£130+ a cubic ton bag for fire wood in the UK last time I purchased a few years ago! I see a lot of free resources for decades!
@tc739
@tc739 Жыл бұрын
Hard to understand why the forestry industry doesn’t chip the wood and manufacture other wood products for NZ instead of allowing this to happen over and over. They need to clean up this mess and be held financially responsible for the damage!
@sunjamrblues
@sunjamrblues Жыл бұрын
As a former consultant for a large American forestry company, it seems to me the solution is obvious and simple: Build more pulp mills and use the slash for paper production. Turn it into a valuable commodity. Otherwise, the slash just lies on the ground and decomposes, releasing CO2 into the atmosphere.
@sambiwan-kanobi
@sambiwan-kanobi Жыл бұрын
What about the erosion control though? You can't grow trees without top soil. Do you think continuing cable logging and planting pine in a monoculture is sustainable way to produce timber or the result of a short sighted whim that will no only wash out the fertility of the land but the industry itself? Being an ex consultant you should be aware that in this rapidly changing world, industry is beginning to think ahead a bit further than the yesteryears.
@sunjamrblues
@sunjamrblues Жыл бұрын
@@sambiwan-kanobi Of course I think planting monocultures of pine is one of the worst things happening in NZ, for many reasons. I hate to see it happening. But that was not the point of my comment.
@sambiwan-kanobi
@sambiwan-kanobi Жыл бұрын
​@@sunjamrblues Excellent, just wanted to check and I'm sorry if I stepped off on the wrong foot. I agree that turning a waste material in to a commodity, as long as it's done with with care, can only be beneficial. I hope you have nice day.
@lynnd1874
@lynnd1874 Жыл бұрын
The slash that came down from forestry could probably keep the whole of NZ in Firewood for about 2 years.. The overseas companies who OWN the rights to forestry in NZ have to be taken to task about cleaning up the slash as the trees are felled... Chip the extra branches, so some trucks come away with logs and others with wood chips. Wood Chips are an exportable commodity. We don't have a pulp and paper industry anymore, which is a pity. Maybe NZ needs to look at producing paper again.
@davidwatson3921
@davidwatson3921 Жыл бұрын
It’s time to hold those responsible, responsible and they must clean up their mess and the mess from their industry before what’s happening now
@BlacklabelDog
@BlacklabelDog Жыл бұрын
Jacinta's answer was more carbon credits and more pine trees. Should be millions of $ of fines. Common man is not even allowed access to cut fire wood in these areas?
@bcallahan4673
@bcallahan4673 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the wood all over the beaches when I was young, catching fire and sweeping down kilometres of beach killing wildlife and and destroying habitats. landslides and bridges being destroyed are just a few of the many repercussions of the use of the land there. but just like those still living there its our home and a beautiful place that should be looked after.
@Kiwi_Rascal
@Kiwi_Rascal Жыл бұрын
Its so sad. Tears in my eyes watching this.
@1beachie
@1beachie Жыл бұрын
What has/is happening regarding forestry in nz, seriously needs urgent attention. Not enough being done to eradicate this awful problem. Really tragic for communities.
@kermets
@kermets Жыл бұрын
Great Job John........Slash broke the bridges not the water......
@captain-hooked
@captain-hooked Жыл бұрын
Great doco Mr Campbell. I hope we get some positive outcomes off the back of it!
@skollittie
@skollittie Жыл бұрын
Breaks your heart thinking its humans that are creating this problem and turned a blind eye for years. Disregarding the people of the land and destruction that they have to face. The old saying, " prevention is better than cure".
@mandoleenebando429
@mandoleenebando429 Жыл бұрын
Theres still a decade of slash sitting up on those hills it will come down with every big rain
@haydenw6585
@haydenw6585 Жыл бұрын
Nice one John !
@travencereedy7747
@travencereedy7747 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou John
@JamesSaga1
@JamesSaga1 Жыл бұрын
recent logging in the riverhead Forrest and there is so much debris still left there, which has been there for months
@Nothingstutube
@Nothingstutube Жыл бұрын
I cant believe the people who make the profit arent taking accountability for this. Its so clear whos responsible. Im no way near east coast but im so sad and mad for them people. The injustice makes me livered.
@darinmason2987
@darinmason2987 Жыл бұрын
People should be given free access to forestry land to gather fire wood and even sell wood they collect from forestry skid sites . This would go along way to solving this problem of forestry slash . Most houses on the east coast have fire places to burn all this timber. It should be free access to the forest land
@RobinHilton22367
@RobinHilton22367 Жыл бұрын
Government should mandate that anything that isn't used when cutting down trees should be put through a chipper and bagged up and sent to be turned into fire logs.
@garethbrooking8099
@garethbrooking8099 Жыл бұрын
Owners of forestry and logging companies should be held totally responsible. They should pay.
@Playboysmurf1
@Playboysmurf1 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if the cities were allowed to have fires 🔥 to heat their homes 🏡. Imagine the forestry industry being allowed to sell firewood to the people in cities. Imagine waste (slash) having a market.
@user-kj1fm6rg8y
@user-kj1fm6rg8y Жыл бұрын
Great documentary. Good to see real people telling their stories and how this is affecting them. The problem is never going to go away as long as NZ sees the foreign investors as gods and the profits filtering out of the country. My thoughts - needs a Kiwi entrepreneur to set up and manage a business that can process the slash? Can it be made into wood chips, re-established into pallets, wood products, there has to be potential for this waste - and the sooner the better
@parekurapaenga2167
@parekurapaenga2167 Жыл бұрын
thank you John Cambell, save our Homes Land and Sea
@stainlain
@stainlain Жыл бұрын
No one from Gisborne District Council checks that forestry are sticking to resource consents. No one does quality control checks on roading or drainage jobs done by their contractors either. Routine maintenance on stormwater drainage has been stopped hence roadside ditches are blocked with grass and weeds. When GDC admit they're at fault on multiple levels and appoint more people who actually do the work they're expected to do, will the situation change
@fredio54
@fredio54 Жыл бұрын
Thanks John, now I understand how this even happens at all. I couldn't believe it when I first saw the photos and videos. Now it makes sense. Definitely shameful behaviour by logging firms. Agreed with the Maori lady about slip prone areas being planted in permanent natives not pine crops. This must be fixed.
@AUNZAnon
@AUNZAnon Жыл бұрын
When that much slash is created, how can it not be environmental pollution? Imagine what they could do with it if they wood chipped a majority of it instead, and sold or gave away or used it for regeneration? Surely that much slash can't be legal?
@stevendilnott4399
@stevendilnott4399 Жыл бұрын
i logged for ten years in the bay of plenty, the slash can be cleaned up after logging no problem, but it cost money, its always about the money, profits are whats important to the forestry, its the world we live in, me,me,me
@manupeipi9939
@manupeipi9939 Жыл бұрын
Slash is killing the 35. Our beaches, our homes, our jobs, all of this for trees, trees that are killing us. Mr Hope, your hopeless, you should lose your job, look at what your management has done! How do you sleep at night and especially when it rains. You've help kill communities. Thanks John Campbell for putting this together, visit on a sunny day 😎
@jahuatuku9275
@jahuatuku9275 Жыл бұрын
Intense logging taking its toll
@philipfrazee5661
@philipfrazee5661 Жыл бұрын
It is time to read and heed “The Forest Farmer’s Handbook” by Orville Camp I personally witnessed the critical failure, of the forest management practices inflicted on the environment and people of Southern Oregon and Northern California.
@debbieclifford3693
@debbieclifford3693 Жыл бұрын
Another example of big industry taking indigenous people for a ride.
@scruffygaming627
@scruffygaming627 Жыл бұрын
The key thing i'm getting from this is: - Logging industry has improved, producing far less slash that can wash down rivers (whether this means they are hiding/storing it better, or producing less, i'm not sure). - The slash we're seeing is vast majority from pre 2018, and CURRENT logging industry doesn't want to be responsible for it, because they didn't put it there. BUT they will continue to clean up disaster prone dams etc. (probably because of immense government pressure to do so, as it's potentially very dangerous, not because of any sense of duty/merit to do so) I imagine this is a double edged sword. Logging industry is big money, if the industry is forced to spend huge money cleaning up previous industry mess, there may not be much value in continuing logging. And the industry disappears. And likely still nothing get cleaned up and quite possibly things get even worse with no one around to keep maintaining the forests. Things could get a lot worse. On the flip side, quality of life is being destroyed for people, and farm incomes/production is heavily affected. So there is no obvious solution, but one DOES need to be found. So what CAN be done about the slash? A solution that works for everyone? (I have no idea, i've only looked at this issue for all of 10 mins). Does anyone have an ingenious use for the slash? Can it turn a profit or benefit somehow?
@craigcoghlan546
@craigcoghlan546 Жыл бұрын
Don't stop now John ,you see, you feel our pane, you have Momentum please tell our story carry on someone has to fight for us ,they're not listening to us .This will eventually affect the wider community 2 of the biggest Footboll in New Zealand have been devastated
@dbob8800
@dbob8800 Жыл бұрын
Council were offered a good system to monitor what the forestry companies were doing using drones but council said nah
@simfishsho
@simfishsho Жыл бұрын
We as a country needs to march in solidarity for our brothers and sisters in Hawks Bay, telling the Government this is enough! With climate change and the crazy weather we are going to continue to have, industries, businesses and especially foreigners need to be held to account if they plan to do business here! We will not allow our people and our children of the future to pay for this greedy irresponsible way of doing business. We need to shout with one voice!!!!! We need change! We need correct Governance!
@gina.369
@gina.369 Жыл бұрын
It isnt climate change. Wake Up. Tgats a globalists narrative to push the 4th Industtial Revolution happening before our very eyes. Gabrielle was engineered
@sandpiperuk
@sandpiperuk Жыл бұрын
Natural bush was once cut down and turned into woodchips. Scandalous. I've seen slash left everywhere in NZ in my travels, on the hills. Why? What a mess. Is there no value in chipping this slash? Even if its not economical there needs to be a law that says after logging 99% of slash WILL be removed and chipped. Use it as fuel. Maybe more mixing of native species between the pine. There needs to be gradient limitations on planting. Also are houses in the right places? Now in March 2023, I'm going back to what seems like a relatively dry country; the UK!!
@diBundy
@diBundy Жыл бұрын
we first saw it with Bola actually, that was the canary in the mine
@peterunderdown4374
@peterunderdown4374 Жыл бұрын
I've been going back and forward to the east cape since the seventies,they told us that our life would only improve what happened.?.
@SopwithTheCamel
@SopwithTheCamel Жыл бұрын
Happened three times in the last hundred years. It’s why river flats exist.
@Karlandra
@Karlandra 11 ай бұрын
I'm watching this over 7mths after Cyclone Gabrielle, from Napier, and we still don't have our lives back.
@insAneTunA
@insAneTunA Жыл бұрын
Watching from the Netherlands with great interest. It is sad to see the devastation and how it destroy the lives from so many people. Especially when you realize that it doesn't have to be that way. It can be hard to change the old and bad habits from an entire industry, we see it in the Netherlands as well. We have a different problem with far too many farm animals per square kilometer, which causes the entire land and open water to become too acidic for many native plant and insect and bird species, and it also causes very poor air quality, but we get the same responses. The industry starts to play the victim, and they even try to undermine widely accepted scientific reports from the scientific community, with the most absurd arguments hoping to create enough anger and doubt among a large enough group of people so that they can get their favorite politician in power, so that they can keep destroying the land. We are living in a world where people are simply denying reality and the facts, and they try to mobilize a large enough group of people just for their own greed and selfishness, and they refuse to look beyond their own timeline of existence. As if what we leave behind for future generations doesn't matter at all. I am all for forestry and for protecting the land from land erosion and water evaporation. I am a huge fan from Geoff Lawton, the famous Australian Permaculture poly culture specialist. But when you create a mono culture forest for commercial purposes it needs to managed well or you shouldn't do it at all. To me there is a difference between making an honest profit and greed. Greedy people do not care at all about the consequences from their behavior. But keep this in mind, every time that we humans create a large mono culture, that is that we plant the same species of crops or trees over a large area, it never ends well. Nature needs biodiversity to be able to withstand changing conditions over longer stretches of time. Look what is happening in the US and their forestry. One beetle is destroying entire forests. That's because large areas are now a mono culture that is largely cultivated by humans. Anyway, I hope that the situation is going to be resolved, and that the people get payed for all the damage that they have. Big 👍for the excellent reporting.
@100percentshipper
@100percentshipper Жыл бұрын
Beautifully done doco, really illuminates the layers of issues here. The response from forestry is deplorable and frustrating. As long a profit is the goal and the laws allow them to, it will continue until the land is dead and unprofitable. Then all those 'opportunities' and 'jobs' will be no more and the community, already suffering, will suffer more. It's devastating and yet it's a shadow of the type of thing that happens in places like Africa where foreign business is allowed to take over precious resources, always to the detriment of the locals. Best thing to do? Litigate these forestry companies, levy huge fines, make them responsible for all damage caused by slash. Plant natives. Let the land regenerate. Create jobs related to that regeneration. New Zealand was never a land of pine trees to begin with, like possums, stoats and other invasive species, it should be treated like a pest.
@ceedeekaytee1961
@ceedeekaytee1961 Жыл бұрын
A Ministerial Enquiry. Gee, that's getting tough. The only thing they will enquire about is how they can minimise the impact on their reelection prospects.
@tslee8236
@tslee8236 Жыл бұрын
There needs to be operations to make economic use of the logging waste. For example, I saw a video on an activated charcoal factory in Africa making use of free waste wood.
@theecanmole
@theecanmole Жыл бұрын
17:16 Stuart Nash being an apologist for the forestry industry. What a disgrace!
@breebrown5610
@breebrown5610 Жыл бұрын
No mention of the Greens not allowing the slash to be burnt off. They've gone very quiet lately
@aquamarine_nz2296
@aquamarine_nz2296 Жыл бұрын
Nor their climate change policies which are the driving force behind mass pine forest plantations. Carbon credits for overseas owners of these forests as well. It's hideous.
@lindsaytewhare970
@lindsaytewhare970 Жыл бұрын
John much appreciation & respect. Great work you're doing reporting on the main issues that are affecting our Ngati Porou, Tairawhiti & Taitokerau whanau with Cyclone Gabrelle. Current governments, Former governments, Forestry companies have been neglecting their responsibilities now need to have a good look at themselves & start working & managing the work practices. Also start working with the natural world. Wake up people who are responsible for this & start working appropriately with the natural world.
@lindsaytewhare970
@lindsaytewhare970 Жыл бұрын
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@lyricallyunwaxable1234
@lyricallyunwaxable1234 Жыл бұрын
He's a total govt mouth piece. All the faulty doctored and corrupted data the nounce sprouted off over the last 3 years. For an ex investigative journalist? He's a total govt presstitute
@masterjenkins632
@masterjenkins632 Жыл бұрын
its all been like something out of a movie im 27 and can't remember anything even close to this happening ever
@annakeye
@annakeye Жыл бұрын
Thank you team for bringing this to us. I knew it was bad but I really had no idea, being here in Christchurch. Though that emotional pain of wondering when the next time will be, I am very familiar with and it's not a great way to exist. But the quakes have all but gone. These communities on the east coast will endure the fall out of greed for potentially decades. It's a disgrace because there's no excuse for it that really stands up to scrutiny.
@petercaldwell2114
@petercaldwell2114 Жыл бұрын
good doco, especially highlighting the destruction of roads caused by constant heavy traffic, which NZ citizens are left with the cost of, let alone the destruction of the environment and the tangatawhenua.
@isnoo1
@isnoo1 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing logs like this on the east coast of Tasmania............... wow - how come no one has done anything to stop this sort of damage....
@robinlecomte1242
@robinlecomte1242 Жыл бұрын
The Pine Forest of NZ, became the new "meat export", look at the Forest blocks along the Napier - Taupo road. And as the demand grew, more land was taken from farming and planted in trees, again south of Taupo and also along the East Coast, Gisborne especially. A time long past, this was considered "good, as to assisted our carbon credits". It was also considered good, when China started buying - as this is where most logs go. We now have Ikea wanting out timber, that means more timber being cut down. So do we need to review Forestry as an Industry going forward?
@bradt5427
@bradt5427 Жыл бұрын
What an opportunity with all that wood. Sorry for the wreckage its caused but there is such opportunity there.
@5161estel
@5161estel Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same, chip it, mulch it, turn it into pellets for all kinds of things. There must be some way to turn that mess into $$.
@robinhodgkinson
@robinhodgkinson Жыл бұрын
What a totally ludicrous situation. Imagine watching another industry destroy your life’s work - there must be so much anger on the east coast. I hope the government enquiry is genuine and thorough. With standards and procedures put into practice, and a very very BIG stick employed to hold them to account! Let it happen again and we will fine you out of business!
@davewilson4058
@davewilson4058 Жыл бұрын
There is money in wood chips. Would it be feasible for every forestry company to have fleets of wood chippers on site to remove the slash as they clear fell the areas? Or is that in the too hard basket. I'm sure there would be a market for it and even export.
@reinyscheper3673
@reinyscheper3673 Жыл бұрын
Thank you John! We need the ranges planted in natives to prevent erosion and combat climate change. ASAP
@ilawahab2729
@ilawahab2729 Жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me the name or names s of company/ies that own (plant and harvest) the pine plantation? This should be made transparent.
@mv9143
@mv9143 Жыл бұрын
while the government is advertising "100% pure NZ"... Thank you for bringing awareness of this
@kevysrandomstuff5835
@kevysrandomstuff5835 Жыл бұрын
All that free firewood, but yeah I always believed that selective logging with replanting 20% native mostly on the lower slopes that is not removed, only to be selective eg 1 /5 30- 50yrs with replanting behind it etc etc
@bronwynsmith2157
@bronwynsmith2157 Жыл бұрын
So sad they could have given alot of the left over wood to people for there fires for free to reduce the waste so much devastation to such a beautiful landscape I can't imagine the emotional heartbreak to everyone who has suffered😢💞forrestrys need to take responsibility and not pussyfoot around and get in and clean it up show they care full stop.
@johnlemmey7698
@johnlemmey7698 Жыл бұрын
Why is the slash there you asked. Simple economics. The logs are worth money, the bent broken peaces are not. Remember there is moor good wood taken than slash left behind. Exported bringing money into the country. We all need this to pay for the things we all import. Yes we can do better. May be a power plant to burn the slash making electricity. I know this doesn't help the problem you are all seeing now. Forest company's are happy to leave the slash as fertilizer for the next crop of trees, Burning it on sight is a waste of good humus and polluting the air.
@joelawrence56
@joelawrence56 Жыл бұрын
other countries are forced to chip all waste
@jonymanay
@jonymanay Жыл бұрын
Other countries own those forests. Japan China and others. They own the logs they cut it and take it. Gov sold out long ago. Just like they sold off 49% of power companies. They sold it off. Other countries benefit.
@jerrybeilgard5824
@jerrybeilgard5824 Жыл бұрын
In the 1800's California Gold Rush. Some used hydraulic mining. What used to be deep rivers eventually filled with rock and the water had no where to go but outward. And the river boats had trouble making it up river from San Sancisco to the gold fields.
@mickeybailey1108
@mickeybailey1108 Жыл бұрын
We have had the same problems in the USA. It took decades to reel in the people who profit from this then deny responsibility. And the fight continues. In my mind I know the solution. It is selective logging. Clear cutting needs to stop. Every time the river turns brown the top soil that is needed for forests to continue to grow is washed away. I know of places where the water remains clear during these huge rain events. As the clear cutting continues, eventually you will be left wth land that will not grow trees. The logging companies will leave with their money and you will be left with barren land where forests should grow.
@Kaii_679
@Kaii_679 Жыл бұрын
Iam afraid that it is happening almost everywhere in the world we live in, once a beautiful landscape and natural beauty but because there is a large wealth of natural resources present. The ugly truth is the greed of individuals whether it is landowners, developers, or government organization is their disgusting response and motive to motion such behavior of "money first worry later". The responsibility is with All parties to ensure that they have managed an agreement to the restoration of the landscapes to their best established natural habitat and professionally inspected before agreeing to sign up new sites to harvest wood. But never the less if you were approached with a beneficial opportunity of a lump sum of cash in six figures summary temptation is greater for irresponsible decision-making!!!
@lulusmith4877
@lulusmith4877 11 ай бұрын
The people that manage the foresteries should be held accountable for the slash that destroyed everything in its path. 😮
@huutsch79
@huutsch79 Жыл бұрын
Very good documentation we live in the Waikato near a Chinese forest and see all the slash and they took down the forest last year and planted new trees but the slash is still there and it look like in the moon
@elwood212
@elwood212 Жыл бұрын
Here in Oz pine forestry creates a huge fire issue and depletes the soils….I believe EVERY ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE can be solved with 3 x new laws. 1. Land can ONLy be owned by those who are full citizens of the land. 2. Any action you make that harms or can harm another being, organism or land is your responsibility. 3. Everyone pays the same tax percentage regardless of wealth
@reneehackett8588
@reneehackett8588 Жыл бұрын
Question to the forestry companies and especially the government. Whý is the slash/waste not mulching by these companies? To me it makes sense but what is it I'm missing? ?
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