I lived in both Northeast Florida and Southeast Georgia. For the longest time the Falcons were the team for the state of Georgia. When the Jaguars arrived much of Southeast GA became Jaguars fans simply because they were much closer compared to Atlanta. The locals were excited to have an NFL team an hour or less away. I was real curious how this was going to work. Jacksonville is a fickle city made up of native Floridians, transplants and Navy families. I remember a few seasons in there was a huge no show from season tick holders because the temp on game day was 45 degrees, too cold for Floridians. The local newspaper did an article on this. Way back in the day the Dolphins were the only professional sports team in the state. All of Florida were Dolphin fans. Jacksonville is spread out. The downtown is nothing with part of it being run down. Jacksonville is like a huge suburb with a downtown. There isn't really much to do or see there. Crime has gotten worse.

Not a football fan but I moved to Jacksonville almost 2 years ago. Prior to moving all I kept hearing was "one of the largest cities in the US!", so I'm glad you covered that aspect of it. I'll say this: even though I'm not an NFL fan, the people in this town sure are passionate about the Jaguars!

I heard that when Jacksonville hosted the Super Bowl in 2005 they had to dock cruise ships because they didn't have enough hotel rooms. Probably the reason why they haven't gotten another Super Bowl.

Also worth noting that broke/greedy owners in established markets fought against Baltimore, St. Louis, and Tennessee’s bids for reasons that became quite obvious shortly after the expansion decision was made…

I have cousins in Jacksonville and they are huge Jags fans. They even went to the Rams home game in 2021 when the Jags were there.

I don’t think Jacksonville should have a team, so I’m gonna do a whole video of exaggerating and making 💩up to support what I already believed. I’m so sick of people like this. The city does not struggle to support the Jags. At all. Leave us TF alone.

It's less about the Jaguars themselves and more about the fact that Florida and GA are SEC territory. The NFL will always play second fiddle to college football

Went to Jacksonville at Thanksgiving 2021 and it is an empty city. So little to do there. Stadium and game was ok, seats cheap, prices reasonable.

I live less than an hour south of Jacksonville. You'd never know we are that close to an NFL team. And most people in my area are mostly Giants, Patriots, Eagles, Steelers, Dolphins or Bucs fans.

Winning will cure a lot of problems and there is at least some hope of contending now. A couple of years ago it seemed bleak and moving inevitable. The stadium situation is a tough one. The price tag for renovation is very steep and given their history, a couple of peaks but a lot of rough times, justifying that investment is hard. But it looks for now like plans are moving forward. What they have in their favor is a state that would likely pitch in and the fact there are not any obvious places to relocate. LA and Vegas were the relocation jewels but those are now taken. Toronto? St Louis? London? All have issues. Staying put may now be the best option. Somewhat surprisingly.

😮there is nothing wrong with TIAA Bank Stadium for the Jacksonville Jaguars. It was 10 or more years left before a possible replacement. Its not fed ex or the Coliseum in Oakland.

As of today October 1st, 2023 the Jacksonville jaguars are 9th in attendance in the NFL with over 72K per game. They have one of the best quarterbacks in the league in Trevor Lawrence and they are by far the best team in the AFC south.

The existence of the Jacksonville Jaguars always baffled me. They’re kinda like the NFL’s version of the OKC Thunder or Utah Jazz, which are super small markets that pretty much got teams by dumb luck. The real reason why Jax even has a team is because their owner was willing to build a gigantic brand new stadium at the right time. At the time, St. Louis or Baltimore probably deserved a team more than Jacksonville Geographically, Jacksonville actually makes a lot of sense for a team. Football is practically a religion in the South, so if your team is halfway decent fan support and market size won’t be a huge issue (just look at the Saints). Jacksonville is also in a pretty good position, to where it’s far enough from Tampa/Orlando, Miami, Atlanta, and Charlotte. So the team pretty much owns all of North Florida and Southern Georgia which is actually a huge plus. Not to mention that Florida and Georgia are growing like crazy. In any other universe Jacksonville would not have a team. I personally think that Orlando would’ve been a better option for a 3rd team in Florida, but J-Ville isn’t too bad I guess

there is just not enough of momentum

Would like to hear JG9’s thoughts..

Great analysis. I lived in JAX for 25 years and could not agree more with your statements.

I wonder what city Modell would've moved the Browns to if Baltimore had been selected as an expansion.

Also the city and county are the same through consolidation Nashville has an identical city county deal

Now I can see why they are playing so many games in London

Sadly whenever the dolphins and Bucs play there most fans that attend are mostly from those teams.

1. Jacksonville isn't struggling to support the Jaguars anymore. This video would he more appropriately in 2019. 2. The main reason for lack of local support in the 2000s and 2010s is that they sucked most of the time, and half the cities population are people who moved there from other places in the US. Many peoples are already fans of other teams and therefore don't have a connection to their local team.

In my opinion St. Louis should've been awarded the expansion team over Jacksonville, much bigger market and given thier recent XFL attendance should be able to support another team

Jacksonville was actually a bargaining chip city in the NFL in the 1980's.

New York: Are we a joke to you?! @ Buffalo having no other team in their state.

I'm native of Jacksonville. And the whole renovations thing has been going on since 2006. And every time the team brings up wanting to do a complete overhaul of the stadium. They always want half the bill to be paid by the tax payers of Duval County, which is the entire city. But they always ask for it when losing, so the city always votes no. The tax payers don't wanna spend money on a losing franchise. 99 out of 100 citizens want the team to be there forever. But doesn't want to pay for renovations at this point. People I ask about what they think keep saying they would rather just pay to build a whole new stadium than renovations. The County has plenty of land available for use. Just has to be the right price.

This is ridiculous. No NFL team ‘struggles to exist’. They all make huge profits, including Jacksonville. Over the last dozen years, the Jaguars had only two winning seasons, yet they averaged over 60,000 a game. They’ve sold a lot more tickets than the Rams did in St. Louis, despite the Rams winning a Super Bowl and making another Super Bowl appearance. Jacksonville has more people than Buffalo and New Orleans; no one says their markets are too small. Finally, Northeast Florida is one of the fastest markets in the country.

There is a 100% chance the new Jags stadium deal will fall apart. By 2028, the Jaguars WILL find a home in a different city. Mark my words.

ive lived i JAX for i while and our fans are still there even if we suck

I moved to Jacksonville in 2002 from the Philly area. There are a lot of transplants from Ohio. There are a lot more Browns fans here. Jacksonville is little Ohio

Question: what market would the Jags be most likely to move to within the US here, or do you think they are destined to be the NFL's first permanent London team, and if so, will they maintain the Jaguar logo, or would it change?

I think it’s less about the Jags being bad, and more about the cost of an NFL game. If it was reasonable, of course people would go to a game, even if their team is bad, look at Michigan fans for years 🤣👌 Still, when you have to pay 300$ for a ticket, 20-30$ for parking, 40-50$ for food for the entire game. You’re upwards the cost of a new Xbox or PS5

Will you jackoffs cut the moving to London crap. The logistics of it are awful. How would they even make it work? I'm all ears. There is zero practicality in this happening. Zero.

Jacksonville metro - 1,713,240 Toronto metro - 7,281,694 Woah....Toronto NEEDS AN NFL TEAM....Why does Jacksonville have one???

Maybe the jags should move, but they should stay in America the only exception would be if they moved to Toronto. They could definitely support NFL team. I do not think moving them to London would be a good idea.

Instead of building local support they are worried about building international audience.

Jacksonville doesn't struggle with the Jaguars. And no we don't have attendance problems. The only time Jacksonville had attendance problems. Was after the financial collapse in 2008-09. And thats because of blue collar workers not working. Jacksonville absolutely supports the Jaguars. Its been years since seats were tarped. Its been years since we have had a blackout game. And just because you see empty seats on tv. Doesn't mean that people are not there. Because our stadium has indoor seating, and all the good seats. Have an indoor clubhouse. So unless they're winning? If its hot, cold, or raining, people go inside

Cleveland is hundreds of miles closer to Buffalo than Miami is to Jacksonville.

You have to win win win if you win i guaranteed you it’ll change. The ppl that don’t live in Jacksonville don’t know how a sold out stadium look in Jacksonville. You just have to win

Dont ever underestimate the Jaguars. Go Jags!!🔥

Every team struggle with ticket sales so why do you keep pointing out struggles when ticket sales have been good for years now. I have lived in Atlanta in the early 90s and the Falcons had blackouts and empty seats because they lost a lot so the point is if you lose the fans don’t come but if you win then they will come..Jacksonville has to go through it like every other team.

If the Jaguars were a well run team they'd be doing just fine.

Been to the stadium several times for the GA/FL game. It's a dump and the area around it isn't very welcoming either. Jags should move out.

That Wikipedia page was on your desktop for a hot minute huh.

I've lived near Jacksonville my whole life and can say that their fans only show up when they win. You would never even know they had a team in losing seasons. Most people that live here are fans of other teams.

The Jags will end up in St Louis or San Antonio when the stadium deal comes up

move them to STL or OKLA

You couldn’t be more wrong 😂. Jags are very much alive and well 🐆

Move them somewhere else or give them a new stadium at least

You picked an ancient skyline pic of Jax 0:51

I've heard people like you talked about a move for years Jacksonville Jaguars is never going anywhere once this new stadium gets built please make another video LOL hahaha 😂😂😂

The stadium deals aren’t good for the communities. I’m hoping that the team moves from Jacksonville, since it would benefit the city to spend that money otherwise

Remember the pandemic? We thrived while your hotels & attractions sat empty. Btw, Disney wanted Jax but the city leaders back then were wary of basically, one investment company buying a ton of acreage & what it will do to the city, if they agree to that. So they said no, and then later found out, it was Walt Disney looking to expand his Disney parks in FL. He had no recourse but to look at your swamplands, Orlando. The rest is history. So, thank Jax for your good fortune & hands off fr my Jags, Orlando.

Move the team to London. It’s 10’million in the metro area and the whole UK market

Move them to Montreal. Olympic stadium is avalaible.

I thought Tenn titans struggled to have a team 😮

Before you start bashing on Jacksonville, People forget Green Bay only has a population of 100,000

😂 Yeah right Go Jags!🐆

Another hit piece

I'm surprised this got recommended to me, as this whole narrative of the Jaguars being a team of struggle for its 30+ year of existing is, ironically, non-existent. Jacksonville, FL is a city that is on the rise as one of the fastest growing cities in America in terms of population, and while it's not likely a place for those to visit (as the phrase "there's nothing to do there" comes up so often), believe it or not, there are places to go; you just have to be a local to know. As for the Jacksonville Jaguars: Tarps didn't come off due to renovations, it came off at the request of fans in Jacksonville. London games exist for the sole purpose of generating popularity outside the U.S.; the Jags currently have fans overseas in the UK & Ireland as NFL International presences of those countries. The $2B stadium deal as of recent looks so good, even the past mayor (who is on the opposing political party in comparison to the current mayor) is pushing for this deal to go through. Another thing: this person absolutely did not see the recent January 2023 Wild Card Playoffs game vs Chargers as the place rocked behind a sold out stadium despite the early 27-point deficit. The Jacksonville Jaguars don't struggle to exist, they're fighting the world against them with these false narratives pitted against them every day. Whether that's relocation talks to L.A. from before the Rams & Chargers were relocated or in today's world: the UK which would not make sense at all logistically; the city stands tall against all the criticisms of outsiders.

So many haters...Keep on hating, while Jax and the Jags get better and better.

There’s no mystery. It’s a poor city. That’s the answer to all your questions.

Relocating to become the London Jags is the likely outcome here. Jaguars name kind of make sense due to famous British car brand.

Well this video didn’t age well. New stadium and new 30 year lease.

This whole video is nonsense and shows a lack of on location research. Jags fans are some of the best in the NFL. In fact, this week our City agreed on a total stadium renovation. We already built a brand new football facility last year. The Jags aren’t going anywhere. I don’t know why you and national media seem to always be pushing that the Jags are constantly looking to relocate. It’s simply not true. My guess is all your assumptions about Jax come from downtown. I suggest if you ever do visit Jax, take a drive to the beach, visit the Southside, take a boat cruise on the St Johns. There’s more to Jax than downtown.

jacksonville was suppose to be holllywood before it went to california

You do know Buffalo is in NY! As in the NY Giants and NY Jets!!

Honestly you can blame that on Tony khan

Can the Jaguars move to Orlando, St. Louis, Columbus, Raliegh, Oklahoma City, Memphis, Portland, San Diego, Sacramento, Salt Lake City, San Antonio or Austin?

Jags fan here and Jacksonville native born and raised. Tbh the Jags have no business being here. They should relocate! The city WILL NOT approve tax payer funding for the renovated stadium. The fact the Khan family wants us to pay for something that 9/10 always brings frustration to us is disgraceful! I speak for a lot of people in Jacksonville. We don’t need the Jags, we don’t want them anymore, and we need to spend the money on far more important issues than renovating a stupid stadium that will be used less than 15 times a year…

They were supposed to go to St Louis and be the Stallions. But the NFL decided to continue its longstanding tradition of screwing St Louis.

London team

Move it to Mexico City

they are not struggling to exist. all nfl teams make plenty of money. they are not moving to england. they will get a completely free stadium. the nfl wants to put 4 teams in europe at once a whole division. the owners want to charge 7 billion a year for the new teams. that 28 billion would get distributed to all the owners almost 1 billion for each team. the jacksonville owner is not going to pay to move to england. the nfl owners are not going to give up almost a billion a team for each owner.

Move the team to St. Louis, Missouri.

I think the Jags should move to Austin or San Antonio

4:26 'why are the Jaguars still talked about for possible relocation?' Because people have their heads up their asses and keep using the same talking points from 2 decades ago. Even though 3 other teams have relocated during that time, funny none of them were the Jaguars

Milwaukee need a nfl team

They are 71-145 over the last 15 years - they are barely a mid-tier team. I don't want to give a billionaire welfare for his business, do stadiums make money ? Yes, but the money flows into the pockets of very few, and never the people who funded the stadium. Jags suck. Kahn sucks. Jax city council sucks.

Smh we haven't struggled to exist in almost 10 years

Crime infested. duh... 😮

You know, it’s really interesting because I was one of those people that made fun of the Jaguars and was the biggest jaguars hater ever and always saying and mocking them and saying things like “ all of the Jacksonville jaguars oh I really don’t take that team seriously, this team and city is a joke!!!!!! They need to move to Portland” And although I still kind of have those sentiments, I also went to Orlando and I actually came to find out the contrary and understanding how media markets work, I actually found out that the Jaguars actually somewhat represent the Orlando market and so do the buccaneers too but as much as the Jaguars. And I think much like the Orlando Magic, and Disney world, I think the Jaguars name is influenced by Disney as well along with magic and bucs and maybe the rays too but I think the rays are the only one that is not influenced by the Disney world and then there is the lighting and I think Disney World plays a part in naming too. So I think even though the Jaguars are very fraudulent franchise and I think they should move, I think there’s just a lot more layers and there’s just a lot more to it since I went to Orlando back in September. And it’s a lot more complicated to move them as well.

This video is like 10 years outdated. Fun fact were upgrading our stadium and renewing our lease. Gtfoh with this bs

Odd saying this after a whopping they did today

If they move within the state Orlando would be a logical choice. St. Louis & San Antonio would be good outside the state area.

Yea this video is BS. Do your research. We are more than capable of paying half for this stadium to be redone. Its Jacksonvilles stadium to renovate to begin with. We own it. So to have an NFL owner willing to pay half is a huge plus. We did half on the practice facility (that Jax owns) but the Jags use and maintain. Shad has even taken over caring for Everbank and Metro park. Huge tax relief for us. Our new Gov has been a life long season tix owner. I dont see her letting the Jags go. Its to important for the city....and her career lol. But Jax is growing by 1.2%+ annually. So the tax burden continues to decrease as long as that growth continues. Its a really a great place to live. Yes we have crime. So do a lot of major cities. We have some of the best weather. Especially in Oct-May. Late Jan and beginning of March can be cold. But the rest of the time is some of the best weather you'll ever have. Jax just needs to start promoting their culture more. Its where Hollywood started. Promote that! Its the birth place of Southern Rock. Promote that. Ray freaking Charles got his start here in LaVilla. Promote that! We have so much that just isn't shined on. Need to turn that around! Oh and dont forget the 4seasons being built right across the road from Everbank. Shad owns this hotel and its already started construction.

Orlando has everything that Jacksonville doesn’t: a major international airport, 130,000 hotel rooms to Jacksonville’s 20,000, endless amounts of world-class attractions and restaurants, and the 17th-largest TV market in the country (Jacksonville is 41st). Orlando gets 70 million tourists a year while Jacksonville gets 6 million. Orlando's tourism tax collects $300 million per year while Jacksonville collects $5 million. Both have big football stadiums that are asking for a lot of public money for renovations. I was a vocal advocate against Orlando’s Major League Baseball stadium proposal because it was clearly a bad investment. Baseball is a boring, dying sport (notice the A’s and Rays are building stadiums that are the smallest in MLB) and no major events want to play an MLB stadium. Renovating Camping World Stadium into a world-class, covered NFL stadium will bring every big event Orlando could possibly want. It will also mean Orlando's giant stadium actually has a tenant.

Only the Brits remember that Jacksonville has a team

That's because Charlotte and Jacksonville shouldn't exist in the NFL they should've let the Baltimore Stallions and the St Louis Knights exist, better yet add the Memphis Pharaohs and San Antonio Bobcats would work as well

The team is ripe to move to London, if the NFL can make the logistics work

Jacksonville's problem has always been it has never grabbed onto the "brand," that is Florida, which in turned resulted in less demand for development. It's very Florida Panhandle-ish. Small town thinking, very pine forest country looking, Jim Crow era, sundown town axe handle Sunday looking bridges, still fighting for Confederate Flag and statues, racist, local baptist church runs the downtown and dont want bars, clubs or nightlife beyond 6pm. Only thing Jacksonville had was very rich men like Tom Petway and Jaguars' first owner brother, Weaver who somehow convinced his brother Wayne to put up the money for application. In fact, the NFL never visited Jacksonville area during the application process. NFL only visited the stadium. They got the team because NFL wanted to save face and St Louis had two applicants fighting each other and Baltimore applicants didn't have their money together and no stadium deal. I lived there and the Florida Panhandle. The vibe is same. As for team, it will grow n fans if stadium is built because Jacksonville area is growing and will be about 1.8 million in 2025, nearly surpassing Virginia's Hampton Road metro because St Johns County is Really growing. Plus, the urbanized density area is bigger than Nashville, but outer realm counties are still rural unlike Nashville's.

They should have never went there to begin with. NFL dropped the ball (no pun intended) when they didn't award the team to St. Louis.

Jags are not struggling. Misinformation Video. Disliked. Go Jags!!

What a crappy, ill informed video.

So many better, more deserving cities. Just like the Rays should be sent elsewhere. Florida has too many pro teams and is horrible at supporting them

I would be shocked if the Jaguars don't relocate. Jacksonville just doesn't work as an NFL city. There's not enough people and not enough passion from their fan base. By the time rumors are swirling about relocation for the Jaguars, I suspect that you'll hear St. Louis being thrown around as a possible destination.