Why Jagex Tried To Sue RuneLite. The True Story

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RuneLite is the most popular client for Old School RuneScape. Without it, many of you might not even be playing the game. But it wasn’t that long ago that Jagex threatened RuneLite’s creator with a lawsuit if he didn’t take the client down. This threat was one of the biggest mistakes Jagex ever made in Old School RuneScape’s history, and the reason why is actually going to shock you.
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@ColonelloRS 8 күн бұрын

@Seb_Falkor 8 күн бұрын

Careful, they might start to make fun of you and ban your community after a while. Those devs are toxic

@TheTundraTerror 8 күн бұрын

Rather crap in my hand and clap.

@TacomaParkour 8 күн бұрын

Gotta love the "let's advertise our crap game on a video about an actually good game, that'll work"

@Saxony 8 күн бұрын

shameful to advertise for this game, they straight up lied to people about the game when it was in beta

@apensalesman 8 күн бұрын

lmao kinda poor timing after the drama they just had with that content creator

@Roge9 8 күн бұрын

admittedly, I wouldn't be playing OSRS today if it wasn't for Runelite's amazing QoL.

@kitsun9375 8 күн бұрын

i tried forcing myself to play the c++ client exclusively. I lasted like 4 months and quit using it after months of a bug with selecting items wasn't fixed. There were small things like massive QoL plugins being unavailable of course, but something so core being bugged is unacceptable. If they couldnt fix something so simple, I concluded there will be worse things in the future. The high frame rate feels really smooth to play on so it's a huge shame. Perhaps it's bittersweet positive thing that they didn't acquire osbuddy

@entryman 8 күн бұрын

Yeah ngl I wouldn’t play if it wasn’t for some QoL features by runelite. 0 part of me ever cared about the people that think it was cheating as I don’t play the game for them and it wasn’t abusing anything.

@Shortdood 8 күн бұрын

a lot of the most useful plugins are on the Jagex client now so yeah you would

@BC-ti7oo 8 күн бұрын

@@ShortdoodLOL

@Shortdood 8 күн бұрын

@@BC-ti7oo what? It even has clue helper on there

@virtualnuke-bl5ym 8 күн бұрын

the greatest thing about runelite is that you get to choose what you do and don't want to use. I think this is one of the biggest factors that has led to the widely loved self-driven experience that OSRS provides--whether it be to restrict yourself in ridiculous ways, give yourself waypoints to get you to the action faster, or make afking easier, every player has a different image of how they want to interact with the game and they can force the game to reflect that with the many options that runelite provides. And if runelite doesn't provide it by default, there's literally hundreds of additional community plugins you can install.

@hemmoau 8 күн бұрын

100% I love being able to use menu entry swapper, which most traditionalists would call cheating, but don't want to ruin my experience with quest helper. Runelite lets you choose and since Runescape is basically singleplayer it's inconsequential.

@Alex-nr1zw 8 күн бұрын

@hemmoau Even more single player for the 25% that are Ironman and can't trade

@shikore22 Күн бұрын

The funny thing most of you came from ez background, its obvious you came from rs3 or world of warcraft.. sad player next thing they will cry about not allowing to use bots

@hellowill 8 күн бұрын

Bruh I remember paying for OSBuddy despite not paying for RS membership.

@akhilp3559 8 күн бұрын

Lmfaooooo

@Baited1776 8 күн бұрын

nah this is beyond hilarious LMFAO-- ty for the chuckle

@GarrettsGear 8 күн бұрын

Lmao you got played man!

@PBDNR 6 күн бұрын

lol yeah i.had that too!

@joetri10 5 күн бұрын

So moral of the story. Adam is one of the biggest Gigachads the worlds ever seen.

@chriskim8022 8 күн бұрын

The sad story between RuneLite and Jagex is a continual lesson throughout history where people do not discuss the principles of the issues and take positions instead.

@christophern5226 6 күн бұрын

I mean, there’s no discussing “principles of the issues” if differing positions aren’t taken. As in, if people do discuss “the principles of the issues” they’d surely be taking a position on either side, right? Otherwise there would be no discussion. Just agreement.

@chriskim8022 6 күн бұрын

@@christophern5226 yes, that is called compromise in which both parties can win. Jagex's main interest was security concerns. They did not share this concern with the RuneLite dev, and merely maintained a hardline position of taking down RuneLite or lawsuit. Had Jagex shared their interest in preventing bot clients copying RuneLite's deobfuscation method, many more options would have been on the table that both parties could have pursued. Legal should be involved if negotiations fail, but it seems like legal was spearheading negotiations as seen in the black and white strategy they pursued. Because Jagex maintained a position of take down RuneLite or lawsuit, they received: 1. Community backlash 2. A proliferation of bot clients 3. A shitty client that got quickly penetrated None of their interests were ever addressed. Had they shared their security concerns, RuneLite's deobfuscation method could've gone private. Proliferation of bot clients would've still happened with or without RuneLite's existence of course. But they wouldn't receive the backlash from the community.

@polocatfan 5 күн бұрын

Jagex trying to kill their game speedrun.

@ody734 2 күн бұрын

theyre still recovering from EoC. that should of been a career ending decision

@shikore22 Күн бұрын

Snowflakes go back to rs3 plz and cry about to make game easier in 2050 the game will br completed in under a month while the AI runelite does everything for you... sad players #Roadtoez&cheatscape

@Robstrap Күн бұрын

It basically was, I don't think RuneScape would even be around today without OSRS. @@ody734

@shikore22 Күн бұрын

@@ody734 oh trust me the chinese owners dont care about you enjoy or not, the only reason they kept runelite because many rs3 players couldnt coupe with difficulity of the game , threaten to quit game if they didnt allow the use of runelite.. The owners & community managers knew about this obviously and allowed it to keep their business alive.. Thats why some mods quit jagex, jagex mod mat k was senior managers and pushed to keep integrity of the game high, such hardcore ironman, unids herbs, short timing graves, etc.. Now jagex are hiring only snowflakes and gay party events...

@JimMilton-ej6zi 8 күн бұрын

No one goes from open source to closed source for any reason other than malice.

@mushyroom9569 7 күн бұрын

Underrated comment

@zometthecomet 7 күн бұрын

Yeah I just wished people gave a fuck about doing wrong for the sake of profit! Like prove me wrong that a person would push a button that killed a random person for 100$ a push😅

@iJosiah 5 күн бұрын

@arlopalmer8195 8 күн бұрын

Been loving these historical RuneScape videos!

@NocturnalRS 8 күн бұрын

That is such a 150 IQ power play "If you can beat our bot detection system, you have a job" win win!

@ALittleMessi Күн бұрын

That's how a lot of companies and even the government works. If you are truly skilled at hacking systems, odds are you'll avoid jail time by changing hats

@CianaCorto 8 күн бұрын

It's crazy that I was literally there for the great RuneLite migration. And I was there when Open OSRS blew up as well, and when it was outlawed. Now I am on the jagex launcher's version of Runelite and I'm pretty happy with it.

@toolittletoolate 8 күн бұрын

Yeah buddy says only 500 people where using it then says it's raids 1 plugins are what made people start using it? Bruh thousands upon thousands where using it before that??

@cocomonkilla 8 күн бұрын

yep I've been through all of the changes from having a Bookmarks folder with each world URL through the switch clients through RSBuddy then OSBuddy then RuneLite (although the reason I heard everyone switched was because OSBuddy hacked your accounts supposedly) plenty of other clients here and there too that I can't remember. it's been a hell of a ride

@Pyro17633 8 күн бұрын

@@toolittletoolate Are you saying thousands upon thousands used OpenOSRS?

@Senor_Penor 8 күн бұрын

@@brandonmunsen6035 Damn bro you really dismantled this guy reminiscing on the past good job 💀

@zerg113 8 күн бұрын

But not swiftkit and swiftswitch? Loser

@Rogiee 7 күн бұрын

Interesting video! Strange to see my old clips used but it’s a throwback for sure.

@PhrozenFox 8 күн бұрын

The sliding puzzle was neat for the first like 50 of them. I figured it out and I could complete them in like 10 minutes. Then I would get like 15k from the end of the clue scroll and it wasn't worth my fucking time whatsoever.

@alb1reo 8 күн бұрын

They could just make it so it auto solves once you get one you've already solved

@CthulhuInACan 8 күн бұрын

@@alb1reo Same for coordinate/hot+cold clues.

@DesolationsFire 7 күн бұрын

@@alb1reocould also just get rid of them that works too. I can’t be assed to waste my time on them even if they are easy.

@m.a.a.d9275 7 күн бұрын

I wasted so much time learning how to solve clue puzzles and I could consistently do them in less than a minute. And all of a sudden these clients made people who never ever did a puzzle in their life able to solve it in only a few seconds. From my experience that's kinda fucked. It was one of the few non combat activities that required some form of skill. Not to mention I memorized nearly every clue step for hard clues, and now you don't need to know anything at all. Easyscape is what I call that. Sure its convenient, but at what point does this become too powerful of a tool?

@williamking8231 2 күн бұрын

@@m.a.a.d9275”Back in my day” Bro wants everyone to suffer and go back slowly searching things up on Runehq and sit through 30 minute KZfaq vids the proper way😂

@edward8326 8 күн бұрын

I remember the Runelite HD riot. Glad we changed their mind, and we have that option to use it now.

@augustablaclisstedbarz1777 7 күн бұрын

Ok dude I was watching videos from 2ys ago this your first post so you must be coming back 😂 I’ll subscribe now

@FactOne 8 күн бұрын

Brooo I just got back into RuneScape and it was your videos that showed up in my recommendation that made that happen!!! So hype I benched all your vids and need new ones lol

@resto4life 8 күн бұрын

He is a beautiful person

@resto4life 8 күн бұрын

Not necessarily physically (although he is quite attractive) but for his mind.

@carloslgp_ 8 күн бұрын

It's funny how improving jagex's official client to get closer to what 3rd party clients provided at that time was never an option. I started playing on the official client and it always felt so basic, runelite was a savior for my osrs gaming experience lmao

@DCherewegoo 5 күн бұрын

Wow. When you mentioned the post that Runelite owner and developer made back then i actually remember that. I was on OSRS buddy and moved over to Runelite! Thanks for the in-depth guide of the behind-the-scenes!

@Josh-dt4uo 5 күн бұрын

At 6:45, you said that £2 was $1.50. This is incorrect, GBP has always been a stronger currency. On 18 Oct, 2013, when Orion Pro dropped, £2 was roughly $3.20

@p529. 4 күн бұрын

Ah shit I commented the same, should have scrolled a bit more

@Gupes 8 күн бұрын

Love historical meta nerdy RS vids. Please. More.

@Elite02k 8 күн бұрын

I use runelite for so much shit. Clue scroll helper, quest helper, zulrah phase tracker, loot logs, kills per hour tracker, gp/h tracker, so much good shit thats a complete game changer for osrs. If they banned it i probably wouldnt have come back.

@BrokeCrayonOSRS 8 күн бұрын

Finally another history video! (: one of the only RS channels I follow.

@adamgray8333 8 күн бұрын

I've been watching your videos for a couple years now 🎉 And I have to give you props, your Broll footage is absolutely TOP TEIR 👌 Keep up the amazing content, but don't burn yourself out for us 🎉

@VersaceMints 6 күн бұрын

As always, great video man.

@deathbywii2837 8 күн бұрын

If it wasnt for the third party clients OSRS would be dead by now

@Ohsgo 7 күн бұрын

Nah.

@augustablaclisstedbarz1777 7 күн бұрын

Nope

@TimeLierG 7 күн бұрын

There's a reason why so many folks play RSPSs, it has nothing to do with clients. OSRS was dying due to a lack of content being added to the game and gained as many players as it has now due to said content being added regardless of how some feel about it. I'm sure there's a very small percentage of new players who haven't played in 07 or before who would refuse to play if they didn't have access to custom clients but they have no impact on the playerbase.

@Ohsgo 6 күн бұрын

@@TimeLierG No, they play it because they're lazy.

@TimeLierG 6 күн бұрын

@@Ohsgo What do you mean? Play what, with custom clients or just official OSRS in general?

@0lei3 4 күн бұрын

Great video mate!

@thepiedish903 8 күн бұрын

I'm not saying your boring to listen to but thank you for the background music. It set a nice vibe.

@ethanm5889 8 күн бұрын

I’m both happy I saw this 8 minutes after upload, but sad I wasn’t able to listen to this at work to help pass the time

@Godzeller3143 8 күн бұрын

I initially read this as “why Jagex tried to sue RuneScape” and ho baby I was very confused and intrigued.

@Davy_Great 8 күн бұрын

I appreciate the office and parks and rec references

@InterestEPC 7 күн бұрын

Great video, and while I understand why a certain other detail of de-obfuscation wasn't mentioned, it is worth pointing out that it also helps the private server scene a fair amount too. Jagex nuking third-party clients, even closed-source ones, makes even more sense in that context. They still should've been more transparent about it.

@lukeoliver1189 8 күн бұрын

When the hell was USD ever stronger than GBP? If it were £2, you're looking at between $2.5-3 depending on conversion rates at that time

@SquishEESpark 8 күн бұрын

It was about £0.60 per $1.00, so closer to $4.00 for £2.00

@Masterofchodes 8 күн бұрын

I thought the same, even the other way around its not close

@lukeoliver1189 8 күн бұрын

@@SquishEESpark Thanks for the clarification, I was just taking a general range for the last decade or two

@entryman 8 күн бұрын

It wasn’t . he got the numbers wrong.. but usd has become stronger vs the pound over the years.. it was 1:2 when I was younger.

@lukeoliver1189 8 күн бұрын

@@entryman You must be at least 80 🤣

@RsRich420 8 күн бұрын

The background music is making my adhd go nuts

@michaelol 8 күн бұрын

yep I remember paying for OSBuddy just so I could get all the cool plugins and also have OpenGL basically the GPU plugin in RuneLite what a good time

@99huntlife33 8 күн бұрын

I met Matthew in game, very cool humble fella. Creator of OSB

@iJosiah 5 күн бұрын

Sure you did buddy

@kynanverwimp847 8 күн бұрын

OSBuddy did not close their source because of bot prevention, what are you talking about xd??? OsBuddy is paid to use, making it open source would ruin their incomes.

@Pyro17633 8 күн бұрын

Likely a bit of column A and a bit of column B. The deobfuscation tool they would’ve needed to write the client would make writing bots a lot easier. One of the reasons Jagex didn’t like RL and one of the reasons they also didn’t like OpenOSRS

@stephenthornton4617 4 күн бұрын

Awesome video!

@patscapep11 8 күн бұрын

Fantastic video and very informative! Was good to meet you the other week in Pokemon Go doing raids! :)

@ColonelloRS 8 күн бұрын

Thank you, you too!!

@mattsterman100 5 күн бұрын

22:48 bro you doin okay? That's a hell of a scene lmao i thought i was dreaming

@Sasbanonker 8 күн бұрын

I firmly believe Jagex will shut down runelite when they feel their own launcher is good enough that players wont throw a fit when forced to migrate. That's just the lifecycle of third party software on proprietary products.

@staCats 8 күн бұрын

That is going to take a while. Unless they let people make plugins, no one will want to switch.

@Sasbanonker 8 күн бұрын

@@staCats I agree it's not coming any time soon.

@MahalGC 5 күн бұрын

@@staCatsthey mentioned that their C++ client will have a modding API just like Runelite in the future, so it'll be just a matter of time.

@iJosiah 5 күн бұрын

No lol. They all literally work at jagex. That contradicts the facts and reality.

@mRon1 5 күн бұрын

That won’t ever happen they are actually unironically small company lol they will never be better programmers with more passion than the community of OSRS gamers have themselves

@Jzwiz 8 күн бұрын

Funnily enough, clue solvers are why puzzles in rs3 got made to like 100-200 moves each. Imagine if that happened to osrs. Im mostly an rs3 player but i was very into osrs during this time and remember when it came out, drop logging/ground names and timers were my main use for it. Then i rem the drama with runelite and even i got suspicious with jagex. People were mentioning an investor into osbuddy was linked to rs since that stuffs public etc

@rodrigoribeiro3452 3 күн бұрын

The Office and Parks and Rec references were just amazing lol

@TwoCupsOfVegetableOil 5 күн бұрын

Was not expecting an "Ariel Needs Legs" reference at 17:00

@FartShartly 5 күн бұрын

I'M SO HAPPY SOMEONE NOTICED

@fo-ef8qo 14 сағат бұрын

very interesting case study in community management and PR

@BloodDripss 8 күн бұрын

huge day today. got a double drop at perilous moons both worth 9m AND nello uploads before i goto bed! hell yeah.

@homologousprime8888 5 күн бұрын

@Colonello You got it wrong - £2 would be worth more than $2 (closer to $3.30 then). The Pound Sterling was always stronger than the US Dollar.

@NL_Twitch 4 күн бұрын

Lmao i see that you added a max video from my vid. But my name is not Adam tough xD But i am NL ingame xD cool that you added my clip :)

@LaserAU 2 күн бұрын

Damn, the high scores moment. What happened to A Bidoof lol

@Kilmstr 6 күн бұрын

I wish you had included at least a brief mention of OpenOSRS. I really do think that project was the transition from the healthy Runeline-esc clients to the bot problem stemming from deobfuscation.

@TheSummerwine1 Күн бұрын

Holy, I completely forgot about Konduit and didn't realise how long it had been lol

@joshmadigan7071 5 күн бұрын

Edgville has some high level smithing bots

@yourmamom 8 күн бұрын

Click yellow fast is my favourite minigame.

@Rytalix 8 күн бұрын

Oh shit, glad I’m early for this one.

@hootie017 8 күн бұрын

I honestly wouldn’t play OSRS without it. I only have very old laptop with no mouse/desk space so I need the WASD Camera control options.

@GarrettsGear 8 күн бұрын

I haven't played since right after Runelite became the monopoly. I used OSbuddy from 2018 to 2020 before being forced to switch, and by then i had pretty much "quit" but we all know you never truly quit this game.

@hellmasker1 5 күн бұрын

I loved the cut to GW2 at the mention of "other MMOs"

@codycool3963 4 күн бұрын

When these clients came out, I always feared key loggers and hackers waiting for me to type thst password

@resto4life 8 күн бұрын

I thought my guy died.

@victorbecerril8548 5 күн бұрын

kinda crazy that i have been playing osrs since the early days of pre eoc and now watching history videos about osrs kinda insane i am now 33 and still playing from time to time

@mortal8082 8 күн бұрын

banging vid man

@p529. 4 күн бұрын

Your conversion from Pound to USD seems wrong. If it cost 2£/Month thats like 4$ at the time and not 1.50$ the Dollar was never stronger than the Pound lol

@bigboyo787 2 күн бұрын

You’re acting so proud like American money isn’t the money of the world and also like we wouldn’t flatten the entirety of Europe with a 1/32nd of our military.

@TheKlopdokter 2 күн бұрын

@@bigboyo787 yeah, just like how good ur healthcare system is ey

@p529. 2 күн бұрын

@@bigboyo787 Bro, I'm not even from the UK, what a frail ego xD

@waqmanime 2 күн бұрын

It wont be money of the world for long. @bigboyo787

@bigboyo787 2 күн бұрын

@@TheKlopdokter don’t need it if you take care of yourself goober

@TKize777 7 күн бұрын

RS3 needs something to hold ur hand thru constant clue scrolls too, 📜 i keep having to re open wiki windows lol

@user-cw5bw6zl6v 3 күн бұрын

Not a damn chance I'd be playing OSRS without Runelite, maybe when it was newer and had less functionality but even playing on mobile is mainly ruined by the lack of all my plugins. Jagex would be delusional if they ever again thought taking down Runelite and trying to add their own versions of functionality would lead to profit. Even to shill their own premium service like in RS3.. I doubt that service would make as much money as they'd lose in mass un-subscriptions and loss of community faith. That's not even mentioning the utter shit-storm online and harassment they'd get.

@TehMazu 4 күн бұрын

How we allowed the normalization of mid video ads is wild

@Mast3rsensel 3 күн бұрын

Brother you are 10+ years late

@flyingpigsco6113 Күн бұрын

Gotta make money somehow 🤷

@PhaizKannon 6 күн бұрын

I was totally using OSBuddy when I last played. I didn't feel like it was untrustworthy even though I knew some people thought so. Mostly I could see just see farther with better camera control, could get a better framerate with limited hardware, and had things on the keyboard that otherwise I'd need to juggle menus to get. I could prayer flash much easier during fights and it was something I did a lot once I learned how much I could extend any combat training or slayer tasks. I didn't use any weird solvers or anything. Then again I just need a reference image and I can do sliding puzzles by reflex ever since the secret puzzle in the ship in the original Final Fantasy.

@cultifies3606 8 күн бұрын

Thank you Runelite. I wouldn’t be playing if it wasn’t for you🙏🏻

@ElderWillows 8 күн бұрын

Adam the hero we needed.

@DustHeTried 4 күн бұрын

I thought this was like way back then but then I saw a familiar post about third party clients and it just hit me that I was a new player at that time. My first time playing osrs is not through the main client but runelite and when I gave the original client a try, It's just really not the right feeling for me so without runelite definitely wouldn't be playing for this long.

@jazzfestyz9734 8 күн бұрын

OSRS wouldn't be what it is today without OSBuddy, and even more so. Runelite

@Juicyeyedea1 7 күн бұрын

Still can’t believe jagex trusted a hacker if they actually paid attention to the pure community they would of known

@gingeas 7 күн бұрын

only reason I got back into osrs was cuz of runelite. feels like an actual game now. proof that qol can supersede features

@shookieTea 4 күн бұрын

I was always under the impression that Mod Matt K I knew a lot of these things wasn’t the deciding factor of this. The executive meeting makes a lot of sense. I wonder how much of the flak he got as a whole is similar

@ZedGames 6 күн бұрын

Watching this video while playing on runelite

@Greenleaf_ 8 күн бұрын

I can't remember specifics but I remember trying Konduit and not sticking with it because of missing features compared to OSBuddy. I can't remember what features but the way you paint it is like it was just better osbuddy but no one trusted it which is not my recollection of it at all.

@elfarcherdv 5 күн бұрын

I'm just gonna say that jagex has absolutely no idea how yo deal with bots if clients are what they perceive to be their only threat. As a kid my older brother used the default client with some quite advanced bots on his comp that used mostly color but a small a small amount of reflection(not injection) to figure our details and allow for many camera angles. He never told me the details of how he sold the scripts but I will say he was never wanting for money or a job when we were kids. Later on he used a client called SCAR but didn't like it and joined a group that made a competitor called SIMBA

@dethmin173 4 сағат бұрын

There are so many near misses that could have heavily hurt OSRS in the long term. This is one of the few cases of a near miss that would have benefitted the game. Fundamentally, there should only be one official client. Plugins massively change how the game is played, and the developers have little to no control over it. If Jagex handled the situation just a little better, OSRS would be just that little bit better

@FumblsTheSniper 3 күн бұрын

I avoided playing with people for years because OSB was so popular and everyone knew you were able to pay-to-win. Something not mentioned is there was a good period of time where you could pay OSB “premium devs” for access to their special plugins. These are the “occasionally jagex reached out to have them remove something” mentioned, those being botting scripts sold by friends of the owner of OSB who were/are all botters.

@FrCaine 7 күн бұрын

Wasn't expecting to see GW2 at all, ngl

@kahvo_ 8 күн бұрын

ngl im kinda surprised that konduit wasnt more popular. Used it since it's release

@FirestormDDash 7 күн бұрын

im curious how Alt1 came about and why its similarly allowed in the "main baby" of Jagex.

@Colourcourt 6 күн бұрын

I caught that H3 reference!

@lil_NlGHTMARE 6 күн бұрын

5:26 damnnn that login screen bruh 😢

@WakeUpUniverse66 6 күн бұрын

Jagex would go out of business is RL was banned.

@CMKloser 5 күн бұрын

@4:40 it was actually codenamed "clusterflutter" lmao

@awogbob 6 күн бұрын

crazy that this story basically repeated itself with the HDOS and 117 plugin debacle. OSRS team wanted to use HD OSRS as a huge draw to consolidate the client and then random timing another developer steps in and the community riots again.

@armthesharks6904 8 күн бұрын

I genuinely don't understand what Jagex are doing with nearly every decision they make.

@zebetus855 4 күн бұрын

I very much wonder what conversion rate gave £2 being equivalent to US$1.50 considering the pound has been worth more than USD since as far back as I can trace (that being 1984)

@HollowsDarkness 12 сағат бұрын

I would have never went back to OSRS if it weren't for Runelite

@kingjaries 5 күн бұрын

After switching to Runelite the game for sure got better. Without RL idk if I'd play as much.

@lukelancaster 7 күн бұрын

Imagine being a single person standing up to a huge corporation and actually getting your own way.

@zxc2oxz 8 күн бұрын

before the osrs there was clien named swiftswitch (if i remember correctly) only og ppl remember that. also there was a radio, that i kinda miss XD

@Greenleaf_ 8 күн бұрын

Yeah but it was more of a wrapper than a real client. It didn't actually interact with the game in any way.

@Toast2214 6 күн бұрын

I cant find the background song of this vid and id really like to listen to it :(

@smally280 8 күн бұрын

Casually watching your videos and seeing clips from my channel. Had to do a quadruple take lol.

@ColonelloRS 8 күн бұрын

Thank you for uploading that Orion review all those years ago! It was extremely hard to find footage of the client so your video was very helpful :)

@Lichtkrieger13 8 күн бұрын

This was one of the best videos of yours, thank you for this birthday surprise :D

@bawla 6 күн бұрын

I don't play OSRS but watch a lot of content creators, e.g. Settled. I didn't know the orbs in the upper right of the UI was not built-in.

@NickDrinksWater Күн бұрын

I don't think I could have maxed on osrs, without runelite. Glad they are partners

@Charlie-nc3cp 2 күн бұрын

19:53 why is bro trying to type by fat fingering 4 keys at a time? Lmao that's some top tier typing stock footage right there

@Muddy.Teabagger 5 күн бұрын

bots will never go away as they makers make too much money from it, the bot i use has a sub and you can buy scripts for it as well and its using the new jagex client and all so able to log in using your jagex account as well so i dont see it going away soon as iv been a member there for over 6 years.