In this episode of the Wine and Gold Talk podcast, the hosts discuss the Cavs' No. 20 overall selection in the 2024 NBA Draft and why they believe Jaylon Tyson was the right choice.
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@AnyangUАй бұрын
Reminds me a little - a little - of Jimmy Butler. Butler was 6-7, strong, the 30th pick in a draft - took four years of NBA experience to develop but when the light went on, he became one of the best. Tyson will need to improve a lot but so did Butler. At least, Tyson is willing to work and do the little things that help teams win. That is a big first step into growing into a more talented player.
@danmcdonie877Ай бұрын
This pick is about asset management. It hopes they are able to trade Levert by the trade deadline.
@tomk537Ай бұрын
And if you can’t get value for LeVert - then you just have a lot SG and no big wings or stretch bigs - big holes on roster
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
@@tomk537 hes 6'7", and he is absolutely a small forward. He played as a guard in college because he has ball handling and passing skills. He will not be an NBA guard. Why does EVERYTHING need to be explained all the time?!
@tomk537Ай бұрын
@@dearmas9068 explain to Cavs GM who called him a guard in his press conference last night
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
@@tomk537 oh my god.... why does everything need to be explained to all of you?...
@akana2256Ай бұрын
Do you think if De Salva was still available Cavs would take him over Tyson?
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@jamesdugan6438Ай бұрын
No. He has no handle or shot creating ability
@goodfood1587Ай бұрын
Why do people keep sayiny Koby? Mike Gansey is the GM.
@PoookoookАй бұрын
If you have to ask, child…..
@goodfood1587Ай бұрын
@@Poookoook i dont have to ask because as we all SHOULD know is Mr. Gilbert is calling the shots. Koby is the off season boogeyman, like JA is the end of season boogeyman. Its starts with Dan Gilbert.
@tomk537Ай бұрын
Actually- Fedor mentioning that a lot of preferred picks didn’t want to come into the Cavs workouts makes me feel OK - least Tyson wanted to be there
@akana2256Ай бұрын
Well if Cavs had top 5 picks they all will come , sometimes players feel they are better than 20th pick
@bburd-jt8osАй бұрын
What kind of workout do the teams have players do?
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
They don't share those details, but it usually entails drills that the coaching and training staff deem pertinent to the teams needs.
@AndrewPolanderАй бұрын
Chris and Ethan...Mike Gansey called him a Big Guard....Mike Gansey said that it will be very challenging to play off the ball....He wasn't invited to the green room for a reason....Not good defensively at all! He is not a high upside play...to be kind!! a solid role player...maybe!
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
Because he has ball handling skills. Hes clearly an NBA wing. WTF do you want from the 20th pick on a bad draft class? Holy fk...
@officialwestupkteeАй бұрын
We need wing players like OG and siakim tall and long players who can play defense and score
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
OG is 6'7" Jaylon Tyson is 6'7"
@officialwestupkteeАй бұрын
@@dearmas9068 Thought dude we draft was 6’6
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
@@officialwestupktee Mikal Bridges is 6'6". Jaylen Brown is 6'6". Dillon Brooks is 6'6". Most NBA wings are. Either way, JT has long arms and hes strong. Tristan DaSilva would have been better, but he was off the board at 18.
@johnvoelker4345Ай бұрын
why you dissin on Slo Mo?
@FloydPhillipsIIАй бұрын
Why, Why, Why do Cavs love undersized wings?!?!
@Fog_rawАй бұрын
Not really undersized. 6'7" 220 with a 6'9" wingspan. Very good rebounder too
@OliGrant-sw8byАй бұрын
It’s clear Koby is DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED. That drunk clown just drafted OKORO/AGBAJI all over again. Everything AL JARREAU with braids was saying during this podcast is EXACTLY how they described OKORO coming out of AUBURN 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫🙄🙄🙄🙄
@AndrewPolanderАй бұрын
Mike Gansey called him a big guard!...Mike Gansey said that it will be challenging for him to play off the ball!! He was not invited to the green room because he had a VERY late round 1/ early round 2 grade!! He is a 2/3....he's not a 3/2...not a 3...not a 3/4 or a 4/3!!! VERY underwhelming pick again by Koby...Last thought...he won't be covering Tatum or Brown....most likely covering Holiday or White...Agree...Cavs love those little wings/ I call them undersized tweeners! Not happy!
@Sbrabson04Ай бұрын
Floyd, it’s time Altman received his walking papers
@thatboionyx6375Ай бұрын
@@AndrewPolanderI hope you do k ow that Jayson tatum and Brown are both 6’7 and 6’8 so if Jaylon Tyson is undersized so are they
@tomk537Ай бұрын
This pick is giving me Ochai flashbacks - when Tari Eason was still there - Cavs could have had Holmes - who Denver traded up to get
@52drawАй бұрын
Tyson plays nothing like Agbaji
@tomk537Ай бұрын
@@52draw yes, I agree - but I meant choosing a safer SG over an exciting PF prospect
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
Tyson is 6'7" and a better option that Holmes
@kristofferwash1Ай бұрын
Why we didn't trade this I'll never know.
@Dstyle269Ай бұрын
They still can but it's due to the Stepien rule. They have to actually make the pick but can then trade the player like they did with Ochai Ogbaji
@AndrewPolanderАй бұрын
Bobi Klintman also still available!!!! I like alot of players still available more than Tyson!
@ricardomiller1799Ай бұрын
Yves Missi was the proper pick .....
@officialwestupkteeАй бұрын
Koby makin me not like this team 😂😂😭😭
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
Then you dont know what you're talking about.
@AndrewPolanderАй бұрын
Hey Chris...why would Koby...want an upside pick? Pacome Dadiet..Johnny Furphy,,Ryan Dunn with improving offense. Hey Chris...so now you don't even look at the D end...Ryann Dunn can right now defend Boston on the perimeter(Tatum and Brown) Tyson can't!!! D matters...getting multiple stops is what gets teams on runs!! Dunn,Dadiet and Furphy= Big mistake!
@AndrewPolanderАй бұрын
Not drafting Ryann Dunn will come back to haunt the Cavs ...just like Tari Eason not being selected ! Your only chance to be Boston is to have top flight Defensive perimeter Wings with size and length! Gansey saying they wanted a more ready player doesn't make any sense at all...Knicks down the road will love Pacome Dadiet..he was along with Dunn the 2 players I was hoping for when Cavs were on the clock! Very underwhelming....Koby loves undersized positional players little wings! Okoro,Agbaji and now Tyson...enough said!
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
Tari Eason is mediocre and we traded the player we took anyway. What is wrong with you?...
@AndrewPolanderАй бұрын
@@dearmas9068 Tari Eason..mediocre??? The point is we drafted Agbaji.....What is wrong with you!
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
@@AndrewPolander good lord. You're just not too bright, are you, son? What do you think Tari Eason is? Lol...
@AndrewPolanderАй бұрын
@@dearmas9068 An outstanding offensive rebounder who is given the toughest perimeter assignment by his coach..2nd team all NBA rookie that missed most of last year because of a tumor on his leg...you doof!
@AndrewPolanderАй бұрын
Orlando and Toronto got better!!! Will Cavs be 6,7 or 8...kinda sounds like a play-in team with no draft capital moving forward!! Yay Koby!!!!
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
Clueless casual
@AndrewPolanderАй бұрын
@@dearmas9068 Tell that to the sports bookies! Casual!
@AndrewPolanderАй бұрын
@@dearmas9068 Nothing casual about having no controlled 1st round picks for 5 years....Orlando and toronto are improving!!
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
@@AndrewPolander little one, I know more about this sport than you ever will. You WOULD be the kind of guy who talks about the bookies, hahahaha! This fanbase has turned into such a joke.
@markzambo7928Ай бұрын
@@AndrewPolander There are two picks that are optional swaps with Utah. The Cavs will have 1st round picks those years. And they are most probably where the Cavs actually finish. Utah still is bad in a strong Western conference.
@jarren32Ай бұрын
Guys, guys, guys... just like Chris said, it was the TWENTIETH pick. He wasnt playing regardless lmao
@WzaveАй бұрын
why does the plain dealer hire ppl to talk about basketball who have no basketball iq at all its horrendous .....jaylor tyson was a trash pick no way around it
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
They could ask a chimp to talk about ball as long as they don't ask you
@WzaveАй бұрын
@@dearmas9068 10years for 6 subscribers your literally the chimp npc 40 yr old virgin head ah ya got it
@rustywagner30Ай бұрын
Wow we drafted a less shooting max struss wait dont we have max on are team already so now a total of 7 players under 6'6 on are squad 6 PF/C and zero true SF 6'8 230 lb on this team WHY DOES THIS TEAM NOT WANT THE MOST COVERED POSITION IN THE NBA 1 IN MY 40 PLUS YRS LEBRON IS THE ONLY 1
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
Tyson is 6'7" with a 6'9" wingspan, and strong. He has defensive upside, and 3 level scoring capabilities. Can you PLEASE stop being so awful? Holy fk...
@rustywagner30Ай бұрын
@dearmas9068 hes 6'5 garbage draft pick from a horrible conference who only shot at playing is if we release Jerome trade Darius dont resign Okoro and Sam is hurt all thoae whittle guys pluse Donovan Struss and Craig cant manage what they did last yr and Bates doesn't progress at all then this POS will see the courts last 3 min also Levert is in the whittle guy shuffle as well
@duanelumpkin4400Ай бұрын
Let’s face it the Cavs always select “undersized” players!! Looking at the Cav roster their players are too short or too slight. Allen and Mobley are too light in the pants and routinely get pushed around; Okoro, Strus, and Niang, are often too short or LeVert & Batea are too slight; While Garland, Mitchell, and Porter are asked to defend backcourts they have to look up to. Then they have players who are not aggressive enough like Merrill and Ward to contribute consistently count on. Is Tyson is more of the same!! Tyson played in a conference where he was a big fish in a small pond; it will not be that way in the NBA. I think the Cavs needed to snatch up either the Kansas forward (Furphy) or the Dayton Flyer (Holmes) when they were available. We’ll see! BTW the height of 6’6 or 6’7” is often misleading.
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
Hes not undersized...
@AndrewPolanderАй бұрын
@@dearmas9068 He's not undersized for a 2 guard!
@Sbrabson04Ай бұрын
NBA comparison Caleb Martin, yayyy a career 8 PPG scorer, wooohoooo 😒
@dearmas9068Ай бұрын
WTF do you expect from the 20th pick in a week draft class? What is wrong with you?