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Exploring History with William C. Fox

Exploring History with William C. Fox

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This is a mini-documentary/exploration of JFK’s relationship with Martin Luther King Jr. and the Civil Rights Movement. MLK’s most famous speech, “I Have a Dream”, wouldn’t have occurred had JFK had his way. Although a supporter of the Civil Rights Movement, John F. Kennedy wasn’t a natural leader on Civil Rights, and this video explores the complications of his leadership on the issue.
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@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
Why I Changed the Channel Name: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/is2ShdNe1qmylps.html I’ve been in the process of moving back to the US in order to start my Master’s. Thank you to everyone for your patience :) -Will
@magnusbreinholt350
@magnusbreinholt350 7 жыл бұрын
Great video dude!
@rayanhey2411
@rayanhey2411 7 жыл бұрын
The Exploration I am sure you gonna get your master very easily
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Rayan Hachem it's a lot of work so far. But I love the subject matter (political communication), so it's worthwhile
@leary4
@leary4 7 жыл бұрын
Eisenhower deployed the active army to Little Rock. The 101st Airborne (band of brothers) is something of a storied outfit. It's notable because he may not have had the authority to do it. This is in contrast to LBJ brow beating Gov. Wallace to activate the National Guard which when active is a federal force. In Little Rock there was probably anxiety about local men actually protecting the black kids and so Eisenhower called in the army. Prior to this the Army had only been called out domestically for one prolonged labor action in W. Virginia and two bona fide small scale rebellions.
@tommo9176
@tommo9176 7 жыл бұрын
+The Exploration just out of interest, what are you doing your Masters in? I finished a Masters of Public Policy at the end of last year and now work at DOJ here in Australia (where I live and where I'm from). Your vids are great and well sourced. I was very impressed and interested to know what you're studying
@iammrbeat
@iammrbeat 7 жыл бұрын
I love how you bring obscure ideas in dense books to life and make them more accessible. Also, as I always say, the politicians are usually the last to the party.
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Mr. Beat I heard the bolsheviks through some wild fiestas in the kremlin.
@erikdumas9873
@erikdumas9873 7 жыл бұрын
It's astounding to me the act of _ending_ segregation, _forcing_ people to live and work in their designated area, could have been described as tyranny by people like Wallace. Segregation was the tyrannical act, not ending it. And what I find even more horrific is that, today, there are still a significant number of people in this country that don't seem to realize that fact.
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Erik Dumas I find Wallace to be a bone-chilling character. Lucky for us, that number of people gets smaller every day (I hope)
@erikdumas9873
@erikdumas9873 7 жыл бұрын
Their numbers continue to shrink, but I fear that with the recent rise in the "alt-right" (really just white supremacists/nationalists), I fear that their ideas have begun to regain a degree of political legitimacy. We're certainly far better off than we were, and I think that in the long term we're trending toward increased equality, diversity, and integration, but I suspect we're about to enter into a period of back-sliding.
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Erik Dumas I have to wonder what role the internet plays in "balkanizing opinion". I wish there were a way to measure it
@erikdumas9873
@erikdumas9873 7 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine it plays some sort of role (probably having to do with allowing people to surround themselves with information which reinforces their views), but I don't think having the population's opinions be balkanized is a new phenomenon. The issue of race has always been a divisive one in American history. I like to think of it like two tectonic plates trying to slide along one another. Tension builds and builds until, suddenly, they slip past one another in a violent quake that is gone as fast as it came. Then things go back to slowly building tension. An unequal status-quo leads to a push for equality, which is met with intense resistance until a new status quo is reached. Invariably, that status quo is also unequal, and the cycle begins anew.
@rangergxi
@rangergxi 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, the interest in segregation is on the rise. What's strange is that its progressives who are making it a reality.
@berend4983
@berend4983 7 жыл бұрын
It may take a while for a new video to come out, but when they are uploaded they never dissepoint me!
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
Papa Jodl that's the best thing could hear!
@CogitoEdu
@CogitoEdu 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, you do such a good job of breaking down topics that are complicated and rarely discussed :D
@yao052
@yao052 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. JFK is one of my favorite US president and although he played an important role in the passage of the Civil Rights Bill (his 1963 speech and his death), his record on Civil Rights was average at best. Unlike some of his predecessors, I don't think that JFK was a racist. But I do think he saw the whole civil rights issue as an annoyance. JFK was after all a more foreign policy president than a domestic one. Sure if a domestic issue had enough support, he was a type of politican that could adapt and suddenly support that issue. And until the university of Alabama incident and the 1963 speech, I don't think he took the Civil rights issue as serious as he should have. As good as a legislatior LBJ was, I honestly don't think LBJ would have passed the Civil rights bill if it was not for JFK being assassinated and him being able to frame the debate by making the bill part of JFK's legacy. At least not as soon as he did because it's was the same Congress as the one JFK dealt with in 1963. And apparently LBJ didn't want to have civil rights as a campaign issue during election hence his rush in passing the bill as quick as possible. Which does make sense considering who he was running again. Anyway I did like the video and I will be subscribing. Keep up the good work!
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Sankento thank you, sankento! And thanks for writing me. I agree that kennedys death paved the way for LBJ to pass the civil rights bill. It's interesting how that worked. His death had meaning and that means he'll always have a special place in American history
@asielmilian38
@asielmilian38 5 жыл бұрын
The Exploration If JFK had lived the civil rights bill would take longer to pass.
@truthhitman7473
@truthhitman7473 4 жыл бұрын
They always leave out Malcolm X.
@allenfreeland6494
@allenfreeland6494 Жыл бұрын
Great black leaders like Malcolm X will always be left out along with MLK too.
@mateca911
@mateca911 5 жыл бұрын
it is easy to forget that the president's job is to represent his population. Even if the population is racist, he must represent them too. Ideally, apresident is simply of the voice of his people. If his people are racist president needs to be racists as well, even if he personally knows it is evil. At 11.12 you mentioned that before Bermigham only 4% of Americans believed civil rights was the priority. He acted when 52% of Americans wanted him to act. He was doing his job. It is up to society to grow and then govenment reflects this grows in laws, not other way around.
@Nikolay_Milenkov
@Nikolay_Milenkov 4 жыл бұрын
Roman Vakula this is so well said
@bikefixer
@bikefixer 4 жыл бұрын
Well done. But there are a couple of facts on JFK's side. One, giving the June Civil Rights speech did not help him politically. Until early 1963 JFK's Gallup numbers hovered around 70%; by September his poll numbers dipped to the mid 50s. He suspected that the Civil Right speech might hurt his poll numbers, but made the speech anyway (evidently through the prodding of his brother). Another fact to consider is that without JFK's death the 1964 Civil Rights bill would have never passed (probably 1965's Voting Rights Act too). LBJ used his predecessor's martyrdom to shame recalcitrant Congress members into voting for HR-5271, a bill, by the way, written by a Republican from Ohio, Rep. Bill McCollough (the scion of abolishionists).
@WritingGeekNL
@WritingGeekNL 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. I don't know much about American politics, mainly because I'm Dutch, but it is interesting to see that after all this time racial tensions is still very high. Not only towards black, but also towards whites. It's like a catfight, (mostly) both wanting equal rights, but at the same time fighting and destroying one another. But, under my youth, racial violence is getting lower. It are just the extremists that do not know how to stop. And I live under this moral code: As long as people do okay/nice to you, you do okay/nice back. No hate until they would 100% hate you. And if you do not like the person, then walk away from it and let it go.
@CynicalHistorian
@CynicalHistorian 7 жыл бұрын
He's back! Glad to see you amongst the living. And yeah, the name change fits your channel well
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+The Cynical Historian this is weird. I was just watching your monetization video when this notification popped up. Happy to be alive!
@TheRedRuin
@TheRedRuin 6 жыл бұрын
JFK was a minor hero to King's real heroism, but to say JFK was no hero when he was an adept political player who had to let the facts sink into what are status quo people the majority of people. King was absolutely right about 'wait' meaning 'never' and that direct action being absolutely necessary at times, but JFK wanted things to stay civil enough for the status quo people to get on board.
@gumgumdookuin7963
@gumgumdookuin7963 4 жыл бұрын
That's called sitting on a bench.
@richardsoucy8546
@richardsoucy8546 6 жыл бұрын
Little late to the party but I really, really loved this piece. My favorite line is when you stated that any time someone told the Black American to wait and hold off...it always meant "never." Brilliantly stated and brilliantly proven. Even Johnson had to face the same protests and wanted "hold off" but when he saw that it would go the same way as Pres. Kennedy he got behind the 1964 Civil Rights law and the rest is history.
@danielbat9887
@danielbat9887 7 жыл бұрын
You're videos are amazing. As a person who is really into politics and history, your channel is a gold mine. You really can portray history from the perspective of the people from back then, not your own, when you know what happened. Waiting on your next video and hoping on a Q&A and the next part on the Russian revolution.
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Băț thank you, Daniel. I'm learning so much making these videos, so it's a win-win for everyone. Thanks for watching. -ps. The Russian revolution video two is definitely happening
@drrydog
@drrydog 6 жыл бұрын
Russia is fastly growing, many americans moving there. Ive been on one trip so far, and plan on moving there permanently. we in the US are clueless of just how similar Russia is, to America in the 50' - 60's
@CapeBuffalo
@CapeBuffalo 7 жыл бұрын
Politicians are the same no matter the color
@UpcycleElectronics
@UpcycleElectronics 7 жыл бұрын
Outstanding and profound. Thanks for giving me something to ponder over for a few days. As an uncommitted liberal born in Huntsville Alabama, raised in Tenn/Bama/Georgia, and currently living in Southern California I have often thought of these issues. It's a shame that the tension still exists and is so strong in the South. I wonder what the world would be like if King hadn't been assassinated. Was his death the needed catalyst for the cause or did it deify him much like Kennedy and Lincoln?
@Neku628
@Neku628 6 жыл бұрын
Upcycle Electronics Please, the North and the rest of the country is just as if not more so ducked up as the South. A leopard cannot change its spots.
@zoec6579
@zoec6579 6 жыл бұрын
A protagonist is merely the focus of a story, not necessarily a morally good character.
@samuelskillern7365
@samuelskillern7365 7 жыл бұрын
This channel is one of the best: Analytical, smart, but intriguing enought for my ADHD self. Welcome back!
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Samuel Skillern glad to hear it! Thanks for coming back and watching
@AhmedHassan-ru4uz
@AhmedHassan-ru4uz 7 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough even though I already researched this topic I still watched this vid just because of the quality of your vids
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Ahmed Hassan thanks for watching anyways!
@thedatavizdojo9653
@thedatavizdojo9653 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! Your argument was multi-faceted and very graceful! I was almost going to root for Kennedy's civil rights reform but then you pulled the plug again...with great evidence to back it up! Well done sir.
@allenfreeland6494
@allenfreeland6494 Жыл бұрын
Facts are the facts Kennedy was no advocate of cilvil rights although he did add some muscle.
@kd1s
@kd1s 7 жыл бұрын
I find the notion of requiring a permit to march to be highly abhorrent. Recall the 1st Amendment that it is the RIGHT of the people to peacably address the government for redress of grievance. Doesn't say anything about permits.
@rangergxi
@rangergxi 7 жыл бұрын
You have to balance safety and freedom. An unannounced protest on a federal highway could easily escalate to somebody getting hit by a tired driver or a crazy mob piling on a slowing car.
@kd1s
@kd1s 7 жыл бұрын
And actually the 1st amendment reads "The right of the people to peacably assemble for redress of grievance ." That right there is the jist. And recall it was written before cars existed, so a balance needs to be struck there too.
@bushikciwa
@bushikciwa 6 жыл бұрын
“In order to figure out, we need to go deeper” *turns phone sideways*
@kriss_b
@kriss_b 7 жыл бұрын
Fairly new to your channel but love the content, plenty of details without giving fact overload. Keep up the excellent work , you have a subscriber in me
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Chris Bailey thanks, Chris. Happy to have you aboard
@kingrobthegreat7446
@kingrobthegreat7446 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on this. I admire JFK greatly but always knew he never emphazied with the blacks. I think however he knew that civil rights was an issue he couldn't ignore. Had he lived, he would have bowed to poltical pressure and helped out the blacks as lbj did. JFK would have had a real HARD time doing so in the south, but i think he would have got it passed in the end.---even though he didn't want to lol
@Vaati1992
@Vaati1992 7 жыл бұрын
Very fascinating; I'm not an American (I'm German) and had a less reflective mental image of JFK. Good stuff. Also it'll take a bit to get used to the new channel name but I fully understand your reasoning for changing it.
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+N. D. Nicolai thank you. I actually like JFK, despite how the video may seem. The more I read about his shirt tenure as president, the more interested I become.
@sarahthebarge9013
@sarahthebarge9013 7 жыл бұрын
As always, your channel has outstanding content and meticulous detail. Good luck in graduate school, I started grad school in August as well ☺️
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Sarah Thebarge thanks, Sarah! Best of luck in your studies
@asielmilian38
@asielmilian38 5 жыл бұрын
Sarah Thebarge Good luck.
@Phrenotopia
@Phrenotopia 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Will!
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Phrenomythic hey! Good to see you. We haven't interacted much since the podcast ended. Hope all is well
@benjaminkinvig8931
@benjaminkinvig8931 6 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video but what was the piano piece at the end of the video played over the march on Washington just i cant find it in the description with the other music and I really want to know what it was.
@Soliloquy084
@Soliloquy084 7 жыл бұрын
Great story Will, demonstrating the power of, well, demonstrating ... by any chance have you listened to Malcolm Gladwell's Revisionist History podcast. There is an interesting episode related to this (S2 E4: The Foot Soldier of Birmingham)? It actually to the photo you showed at 11:14
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Soliloquy this is the second time I've heard the podcast referenced. I'll have to check it out.
@MrShadowtruth
@MrShadowtruth 7 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say your video didn't appear on my alerts even though I am subscribed to you, I have just recently become aware of your new vid.
@marieloewel6284
@marieloewel6284 7 жыл бұрын
Wieder ein super Video. Immer cool deine Videos zu sehen!
@marieloewel6284
@marieloewel6284 7 жыл бұрын
Und noch was. Ich bin JFK gegenüber durch das, was ich bisher von ihm gehört habe, positiv eingestellt. Das was du in deinem Video erzählt hast, war mir auch neu. Es ist echt interessant und tragisch, wie schwer es in einer Gesellschaft ist, gewohnte gesellschaftliche Ordnungen zu überdenken und neu zu ordnen.
@lukastaylor9193
@lukastaylor9193 7 жыл бұрын
Forgot how much I loved the ending of your videos
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Lukas Taylor probably a compliment....possibly an insult XD hahaha
@lukastaylor9193
@lukastaylor9193 7 жыл бұрын
The Exploration hahaha it sounds sarcastic but it's a compliment don't worry 😂
@joesharpe417
@joesharpe417 7 жыл бұрын
Lukas Taylor I am 3r I found a 89ko9
@EQOAnostalgia
@EQOAnostalgia 5 жыл бұрын
King was a Marxist. Sad but true. This broke my heart when i heard it, and continued to do so when i researched it myself. Take it as you will. Truth will always out.
@enlightenyourself8555
@enlightenyourself8555 5 жыл бұрын
Marxist basic beleifs are not radical in any way but they are far from practical....
@thelastrevolutionary8093
@thelastrevolutionary8093 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t see want the problem is to have radical beliefs
@CreativeVery
@CreativeVery 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but I thought that it said "why mlk opposed the march on washington." I was really confused.
@BaphometBibleStudy
@BaphometBibleStudy 4 жыл бұрын
A historian named Dallek, “HISTORICAL INACCURACIES WILL BE EXTERMINATED!!!!”
@delvercetti8930
@delvercetti8930 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Noah Cataldo thanks, Noah!
@firstname7792
@firstname7792 7 жыл бұрын
Really good keep up the good work
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+First Name thank you mr. last name
@EMan32x
@EMan32x 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Will! Wonderful video as usual. Putting aside the wonderful exploration ;) of this topic you've put forth, I want to compliment your music choices!
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Erich Blume thank you, Erich. I really like the piano music, especially. Thank god for Kevin Macleod and his library of free music! 🎶
@ithugauniverse2941
@ithugauniverse2941 6 жыл бұрын
I learn so much from you I never knew
@Strong2091
@Strong2091 7 жыл бұрын
Great stuff here, Will.
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Strong2091 thank you very much!
@full_ArmourOfGod
@full_ArmourOfGod 6 жыл бұрын
Bloody hell i am just encountering this channel! Brilliant stuff all round
@philonetic
@philonetic 7 жыл бұрын
You can cherry pick all of the quotes and aspects of it that you like in retrospect. Doesn't mean you have the first idea as to what you're speaking about. People at the time did not feel as you're portraying here. Say anything you like in hindsight, doesn't mean you're even close to being correct.
@Neku628
@Neku628 6 жыл бұрын
philonetic Please elaborate!
@anonymous.youtuber
@anonymous.youtuber 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant! You help us understand the past so we can better try to figure out what’s going on right now.
@NooniRobertson
@NooniRobertson 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the work you put into these videos! I love educational channels and I really think you have one of the most quality political history channels here.
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+NooniRobertson thank you, Nooni. I'm glad you find them valuable!
@leiftorbjorn5621
@leiftorbjorn5621 7 жыл бұрын
You make him out to be evil, he was obviously for civil rights but, his vision for how it should be achieved was different and kinda stupid... but still.
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+LEIF TORBJÖRN flawed? Yes. Evil? No way.
@Neku628
@Neku628 6 жыл бұрын
The Exploration Why not evil? Why be proud in a country that hates you?
@briangeorge4182
@briangeorge4182 7 жыл бұрын
One of your best. Keep it up man!
@kmena05
@kmena05 2 жыл бұрын
maybe JFK getting clapped in Dallas wasn't such a bad thing.
@CC-nv9hj
@CC-nv9hj 5 жыл бұрын
Brillaint videos mate! well presnetd and explained. Kepp up the good work mate.
@citizen4843
@citizen4843 7 жыл бұрын
Good job will 😊
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Joshua Sheard thanks, Joshua
@mikerob7851
@mikerob7851 5 жыл бұрын
Good work my dude 👂🏾🧠❤️👀🙏🏿
@z3pHyRx3
@z3pHyRx3 7 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing!
@patriciadechenier5740
@patriciadechenier5740 6 жыл бұрын
Great episode demythologizing JFK's role in civil rights. Eventually, Lyndon Johnson would get enforceable Federal legislation on civil rights which superseded local and state law. King's and Johnson's actions far outweighed any act of JFK's. Your work is much more valuable than Doris Kearns Goodwin's myths of JFK's greatness.
@abdullahfahad53
@abdullahfahad53 2 жыл бұрын
JFK prevented world War 3 from happening, sure king and Johnson did good things but JFK outranks them in terms of accomplishments.
@karlpj1
@karlpj1 5 жыл бұрын
this has a very high quality, you should extend it to a MLK video of 2 hours. His death means probably a extreme slowdown in civil rights, Vietnam war and fight to poverty
@edtravels7661
@edtravels7661 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video thanks for posting it.
@themaverickfan
@themaverickfan 7 жыл бұрын
Incredible video! Loved it.
@philippinesball_5928
@philippinesball_5928 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, great video! Keep it up!
@alexcinos3756
@alexcinos3756 5 жыл бұрын
Man, your stuff is just awesome, great love for you and your work from Russia. It even brings some memories back from days i was in Russian military, it takes some huge balls to oppose system and corrupt people who just cant understand importance of RIGHTS.
@rikashey9458
@rikashey9458 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks.
@JoeCiliberto
@JoeCiliberto 7 жыл бұрын
Great piece and great work as always. In this story, are you concerned that you are drawing conclusions from opinions? Dallek for instance - He made an assumption about's Kennedy's empathy based on his privileged life. Doesn't mean a man can't feel. Secondly the critique on Kennedy trying to discourage the march. Didn't he meet with the organizers? Thirdly, he addressed the issues and considered a calculated approach to resolve them. Here we are, what 54 years later, looking back and deducing what?... writers' collected thoughts, analysis and conclusions. You take them and create a lesson of denigration. Those were my formative years and i remember them, first hand, alongside my black and white, Catholic, protestant and Jewish neighbors. When I here Kennedy reference the fishbowl and the Founding documents, I don't consider that approach politics. I consider them to be a moralist approach. Yes Kennedy was a womanizer. But as a leader he spoke to the issues of civil rights, confronted convention, and applied lessons of conscience with a modicum of practicality. It is your show and your effort, and I salute them both, and appreciate you bringing the level of honesty and critical thinking to bear. It's easy for me to comment. But i hope you don't mind me doing so. Kennedy, in spite of his shortfalls was a positive agent of change. When we listened to hom speak, as we Martin Luther King, and to a different degree Malcom X we felt. These feeling appealed to our sense of right and wrong. It gave us pause, and for some of us, connecting through or pastors and rabbis, increased our empathy, our sympathy, our respect, and our love for one another. We found our black brothers and sisters waiting to welcome us, and we all, for a while, made the world a better place. Those who didn't get the message still don't, and there were far more of them than us, and those of who lost our way through Viet Nams, Watergates, bubbles, bursts and Bush, the first black president and fifteen years of war, and now Trump. Maybe the real issue is not looking back critically at Kennedy, warts and all, but why it did not work, and with eight years of African American leadership, it only got worse. I've often asked myself why. And I'm sad to say, your critique should focus on the democrats, from the 60s on, white and black. I wish you could go back to that day, when the principal walked in to the class room and called Sister away, and she came back crying and lead us in the rosary, sent us home early. When I got back to the projects, the women were all sobbing, black and white together. They cried again when they shot Martin. and we kids played kick ball in the alley. You piece missed that with all its, I'll call it "intellectuocity".
@Neku628
@Neku628 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Ciliberto What is wrong with Democrats?
@JoeCiliberto
@JoeCiliberto 6 жыл бұрын
Hellbound Iscariot - That's a good name. What's wrong with the Democrats? Geez, I wrote this a month ago. I assume your question in in its content, so I better reread it. I'm pretty busy right now but will come back and answer your question properly.
@philonetic
@philonetic 7 жыл бұрын
Can't say that I agree with all of your interpretations.
@AndreNDP
@AndreNDP 6 жыл бұрын
philonetic Very much agree. What bugged me the most was saying JFK was not a hero. That’s not to say Dr. King was not also a hero, he was. But the narrative that Kennedy opposing civil unrest amounted to him attacking the movement or being unwilling to create change is simply dishonest. Those actions attacked are called politics. You can’t be seen to support civil unrest. You can’t rock the boat in the way that was the only alternative for the marchers. That’s not to say the march, or direct action as a whole, is wrong. But it would undermine President Kennedy’s position if he did not oppose it outwardly, regardless of his internal feelings.
@Talleyhoooo
@Talleyhoooo 6 жыл бұрын
Guys, this pertains to civil rights, not as a whole.
@AndreNDP
@AndreNDP 6 жыл бұрын
Sure it does. But to downplay JFK's role in civil rights progress is dishonest and ignorant of his role as president.
@dnxls_
@dnxls_ 5 жыл бұрын
After all, politics lead not society; it is downstream from society and its culture. Change from below drives it upwards.
@StepBackHistory
@StepBackHistory 7 жыл бұрын
He lives!
@AtticusDragon
@AtticusDragon 7 жыл бұрын
Illuminating as always, glad to see you sticking to your guns.
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+AtticusDragon thanks Atticus
@DJHardStatic
@DJHardStatic 7 жыл бұрын
Another great video will, direct. action. works. folks.
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Nick Birkas thanks nick!
@36inc
@36inc 7 жыл бұрын
incredibly well made debunking of the myth that is jfk.
@printhelloworld1413
@printhelloworld1413 5 жыл бұрын
QUALITY CONTENT
@andrevaudrin3164
@andrevaudrin3164 3 жыл бұрын
why focusing so hardly on JFK's mild approaches about the Black people??? what do you want to prove? Were the other presidents so performant in that regard? but it looks like it is a club here and most of the commentaries are admirative of this video... if i could resume my intervention, i'd say JFK went as far as the Americans were willing to go. This is what we call "real politik". And if you go too far as a president, you end up like JFK...
@moeynola6747
@moeynola6747 7 жыл бұрын
I know there's millions of videos of this out there but can u do a video of the whole Israeli and Palestinian thing?
@atlanticdriftfishing6451
@atlanticdriftfishing6451 4 жыл бұрын
A good video, nicely narrated and edited but, the whole presidency was a juggling act, you may say that one of the reasons this guy was shot, was his stance on civil rights, one which enabled support to remove him. You can read about what happened to Abraham Bolden, the first African American secret service agent, jfk was despised by the rest of the secret service for employing him. Ultimately JFK, MLK and RFK paid the price for being brave against America's core which was opposed to equality and justice for all of its citizens. Ultimately, it's impossible to rule over so many people and such a vast territory and keep all happy. To put things in perspective, MLK credited JFK with saving his life, that night he was arrested and detained. Try having the CIA lying to you about Cuba, the joint chiefs pushing for all-out war with the Soviets, the Wall Street and steel crisis created to leverage the president and living under constant threat of assassination. He paid the same price as King. He only had Lyndon Johnson as VP because he carried the southern votes, JFK hated Texas and the southern backward mentality, he was a supporter and admirer of Lincoln. It was a very tragic decade of American history, but some change was brought, but, people paid in blood.
@TheBee87bee
@TheBee87bee 3 жыл бұрын
The privileged are the slowest to recognize the inequalities in society. Kennedy was privileged,never faced racism in his childhood or in his family.
@jeffersonclippership2588
@jeffersonclippership2588 7 жыл бұрын
Because he was a Nazi didn't you watch the Simpsons?
@Neku628
@Neku628 6 жыл бұрын
Cornelius Funk JFK?
@bregodk
@bregodk 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 🙃
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+brego.dk thanks for watching
@zelmerashley6354
@zelmerashley6354 2 жыл бұрын
France treatment except black soldiers as equal, not Americans
@str.77
@str.77 4 жыл бұрын
Well, marches on the capital are never a purely positive event.
@marianotorrespico2975
@marianotorrespico2975 6 жыл бұрын
Good work, but JFK was shallower than he appeared, thus, he did nothing for anyone who wasn't a Kennedy.
@enlightenyourself8555
@enlightenyourself8555 5 жыл бұрын
He tried to free us from the tax slavery we are in right now and that was his real battle which his brother was gonna continue.. but you know how they both ended up
@dosmastrify
@dosmastrify 7 жыл бұрын
8:30. Old Seth Meyers?!
@striker6240
@striker6240 7 жыл бұрын
I love these motherfucking videos man.
@tobygoodguy4032
@tobygoodguy4032 6 жыл бұрын
JFK was a (my) hero. Fast forward 55 years - now protesters blockade Disneyland with primal screams. And the 'light of the world' descends into the jungle abyss.
@xenoblad
@xenoblad 7 жыл бұрын
This is why I find "moderates" so frustrating.
@noco7243
@noco7243 6 жыл бұрын
So he's Clinton before Clinton.
@spellerlittlewing
@spellerlittlewing 5 жыл бұрын
Yes both liers
@rentslave
@rentslave 7 жыл бұрын
The moral leader of our nation:A man whose wife had to have the courts seal his sex tape recordings for 50 years.
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Tom Dockery found the FBI agent
@travisdempster4693
@travisdempster4693 6 жыл бұрын
It seems slightly historically inaccurate to say "southern" senators. When it was more correctly Southern Democrats. Likewise it was not Southern Whites but Southern Democrats who opposed Civil rights. Kennedy did not like Johnson a southern Democrat. But choose him because he needed Texas to win the Election. And to garner southern Democrat votes. As it was still Southern Democrats in Miss and Alabama rejected Kennedy for the Democrat Robert Byrd. Johnson called Kennedy an Irish Mobster. Kennedy and Johnson were dragged to Civil Rights by the Republicans in Congress.
@Incidental104
@Incidental104 5 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in soviet union every ethnicity (over 150 too be exact) and even woman etanded university half of the engineers and scientists there were female.... more educated citizens = less racism lower unemployment rate and equal grounds.
@misterdoctor8234
@misterdoctor8234 7 жыл бұрын
Because he had bad feet.
@lady2step1
@lady2step1 7 жыл бұрын
Woo hoo new vid!
@saltylime8437
@saltylime8437 3 жыл бұрын
There were a lot of false facts
@rott3npaul294
@rott3npaul294 6 жыл бұрын
Even the greatest ones...fail
@teeeeeveeeee314
@teeeeeveeeee314 5 жыл бұрын
Well, aren't we a Republican!
@SnydeX9
@SnydeX9 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I see some parallels between the arguments used by some to justify some current events. Although when you analyze the reasoning of today's activists and the activists of those earlier times you see a clear distinction: they actually had valid arguments to organize rallies and protests back then.
@Neku628
@Neku628 6 жыл бұрын
Snyde So, they don't now?
@drrydog
@drrydog 6 жыл бұрын
Have you been to Detroit, lately? It might be JFK thought black integration might be "cultural society suicide" and not "political campaign suicide"
@gerardjagroo
@gerardjagroo 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Hey Hey! What happened to the Political Junkie?
@RCehnitz
@RCehnitz 7 жыл бұрын
He was the best democrat president ever was
@knowyourroleboulevard7119
@knowyourroleboulevard7119 5 жыл бұрын
Ummm Franklin D. Roosevelt.
@jamescowan3651
@jamescowan3651 6 жыл бұрын
my father was a veteran and had what he called the 1/6 th or 16% rule. his belief was that any entity, organization, work environment, school system etc, etc, was greater than 16% black it will fail because of the genetic emotional and intellectual limitations of the african/ african american. after 34 yrs of adult life i see what he meant. js
@jamescowan3651
@jamescowan3651 6 жыл бұрын
no just very prophetic. go eat some black chorizo spigga.
@JoseAmaya-gp2yb
@JoseAmaya-gp2yb 6 жыл бұрын
Oh so clever, just what I'd expect from your ancestry.
@afrorumsamplepacks
@afrorumsamplepacks 6 жыл бұрын
I don't blame you, you come from an uneducated tree line and you, yourself are narrow minded hopefully before you die you'll be come to the realization that the only thing that stopped you from going further in life was biased judgments against skin color
@craigmeikle5463
@craigmeikle5463 5 жыл бұрын
this is hliarious
@enlightenyourself8555
@enlightenyourself8555 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamescowan3651 I hope he's burning in his grave. Being dark as charcoal would look on him haha!
@ranielpangilinan727
@ranielpangilinan727 5 жыл бұрын
JFK: Hey! Martin Luther King, do you want to have some fun? MLK: Umm... Check out this video. JFK: What? MLK: It's a propaganda which it said that I'll fight against you for racism. JFK: What? I didn't promote racism. MLK: Yes. But I mean, this is a documentary video which was made by Lyndon B. Johnson. **Lyndon B. Johnson is running away with a documentary script. Then JFK follows and chases him while holding up a table.** JFK (being furious): GET BACK HERE!!! I'LLL SMASH YOU WITH THIS TABLE!!!!!
@davidparisi5255
@davidparisi5255 6 жыл бұрын
When you quote Sen Russell as for civil rights it is obvious you are very ill-informed. Maybe you have heard of the solid south .Read something not written by Black Lives Matter
@johnharker7194
@johnharker7194 6 жыл бұрын
A better question is why JFK and LBJ voted against the earlier civil rights act in the Eisenhower administration. JFK sucked.
@josecarranza7555
@josecarranza7555 6 жыл бұрын
JFK voted for the 1957 civil rights act, lyndon johnson did not.
@dipdip7250
@dipdip7250 7 жыл бұрын
first
@magnusbreinholt350
@magnusbreinholt350 7 жыл бұрын
Special snowflake huh?
@williamcfox
@williamcfox 7 жыл бұрын
+Diplomatic Diplomer well done
@magnusbreinholt350
@magnusbreinholt350 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@CannonThaGoon
@CannonThaGoon 7 жыл бұрын
The Exploration Last.
@dipdip7250
@dipdip7250 7 жыл бұрын
This is my crowning Achievement.
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