Exactly!

It's about attitude❤. We all know we'll eventually grow older but if we embrace it with joy and good health... Why should we count 😅

Which isn't quite true....unfortunately.

I didn't even notice until you pointed it out for some odd reason

That's ageist.

She looks stunning! And I'd wear that should I be lucky to get to her age looking so fabulous 😊

Selma, society is ageist. Not me. It’s an accurate statement and a testament to how vibrant she is and how amazing she looks. Most people nearly 90 are in nursing homes with significant health deterioration if they are even lucky enough to still be alive.

Ageless

90 in 2023

Why wouldn't Forsythe be irked by Joan bringing his age up? He wasn't bringing up her age, it was the press and PR. Nothing old world abut it.

@@hd-xc2lz 🤦🏻‍♂️

@@romainsavioz5466 I suppose you disagree?

@@romainsavioz5466 If Forsythe was less insecure he’d have understood the point Joan was making and been fine with her pointing out the sexist hypocricy to the media

@@hd-xc2lz I'm with you.

I don't see it being much better nowadays though.

@@Sunshine-zm1fx Me neither to be honest. People like to pretend that it’s that much better nowadays, but I agree with you _it’s not. It gets more called out these days, but it’s still very much a misogynistic society the one we live in.

Yeah she took a lot of flak for that in that era but she's always been a class act. I can kinda see Forsythe's perspective and not wanting to get his age dragged out to be used against him. Better if everyone would stop using it as a club against the women, both then and now. What choice did she have though? She couldn't control others being ageist, only highlight how awful the double standard was with the perfect example of her direct co-worker and Forsythe took the hit. That award story was truly childish on his part, can't defend that at all. I get the sense she is still respectfully framing that story in a more positive light than the truth actually was. That's pure conjecture on my part, but she seemed to choose her words carefully there. Very articulate lady.

Didn't they do that?

Now I did like Dynasty, But to me Dallas had that pit more X-factor that Dynasty didn't have.

@@johndoyle2429 I never watched Dynasty growing up.We didn't get ABC.I've watched it since I've grown.But yea I do like Dallas better.But for fights give me two women.There are never any punches pulled,so to speak.

Yes! Joan really held the show together. I believe they were bitter because Joan had the largest fan-base aside from the other actors. They should've been grateful to Joan for saving their jobs. The show was about to be canceled until Joan showed up 😊

Exactly. She was the show. She brought the zest and the romance. She had great chemistry with the actor who played her young lover. Honestly if she didn't have any scenes I wouldn't watch the episode.

Most likely that is exactly why Forsythe didn't like Joan; Joan stole the show!

Indeed!

John turned 62 in 1980 before Dynasty. John was 63 when Joan came aboard as Alexis the second season which was 1981-1982.

She hurt his ego

A man-child.....alot of women are married to them...I should know...they want to be the center of the attention..

Had _she_ been a bigger star herself someone else assuredly would have ended up in that role (even she would not have been considered, were it not for her starring in The Stud, an adaptation of a pulpy novel penned by her younger sister; RIP, Jackie). As well, she nearly walked away after Series 5, when she demanded more money after putting in 4 years. Whether or not she deserved the hike in pay, the show itself was running on fumes by Series 8 or Series 7.

Totally. She was out to get her hands on it, on stage well ahead of everyone, took it off the podium herself....wasn't handed it. etc etc etc.

2:05 Joan's recollection of that event (People's choice) is not entirely accurate. She says, (John) 'She said enough.' What he actually said was, 'No, you said it.' Joan then recounts how John 'walked off' but he doesn't do that the whole time they're on the stage in the clip available. It would appear they all left the stage at the same time.

In the 80s, I was in my 20s, and I thought she was gorgeous.

​@@nah....6151 Partially agree. But Dynasty was very successful prior to Joan's appearance, nominated for a Golden Globe award in 1981 after the first season. Ratings averaged 19 million for season 1 in the US, gaining a further 4.5% viewership for the second season. Not considerable, quite frankly. Alexis' best seasons, however, were to come later around 1984-85.

@@nah....6151 Actually, I'm going to change my original view. Based on what Joan says in this interview, my instinct is she should have handed the award to John - if that was protocol. *Having viewed the footage, Joan actually turns to John Forsyth prior to her speech, but he is in conversation with other actors, perhaps even ignoring her? Joan then faces the audience quite nervously, in fact, and thanks everyone.* The footage is on KZfaq and worth watching.

@@Clavinovaman I agree

@@Clavinovaman But she got up there ahead of everyone, was not handed it and made sure she had her say....she did the same thing getting up there ahead of the others in other years' awards etc. I feel her ego was out of control......but having said that, why didn't they allow Linda or her to be the spokesperson for a change.....

@@tonyb5492 Who else is stuck in the never ending loop of The Graham Norton show 👀

@@tonyb5492 why do you care...lol

@@tonyb5492 don't waste your time... I won't see your replies...lol

Me and I love it lol

Why do you repeat the same thing over and over….we get it, you like Graham Norton…it fills a huge empty void in your life….that and computer games

Clever man. She's bloody awful.

@@allegory6393 Her acting or her as a person? Have you met her?

@@akirebara She is a talentless actress who got very lucky on TV portraying an iconic character. As for her own character, I have friends who worked on two films with her here in the UK and told me some horror stories about her attitude. So John Forsyth probably had good reason to dislike her.

@@allegory6393 How exactly is she awful?

@@juliajones2318 You want her PR machine to come after me? It is well known how awful she is in the UK's acting circles (the serious ones). And crews are not that fond of her either. Comments here turn her into some feminist icon, when in fact she did not speak up when she witnessed other women in her profession victimised, but she speaks up now that is absolutely safe and many many other women have done the difficult work long before she opened her mouth here. The disgusting film industry culture (as old as the film business itself) revealed in all its misogynistic glory every time an actress celebrated her 30th birthday (less common now, but still); the repellent culture that determined that ageing male stars were potent sex symbols and needed to be paired with women half (or more than half) their age while actresses of a similar to them age were put out to pasture or forced to play their mothers (eg. Cary Grant's 'mother' in North By NorthWest) have more than been exposed, there have been actively opposed following changes in social attitudes long before this interview. Collins did not participate in any of those discussions and struggles, only to spout the obvious now and be hailed as some great feminist icon! Pleeaaase, as the Americans say.

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People with English accents pronounce it that way, not just Graham.

@@AndrewMacLaine However, "Dynasty" as used here is a _proper noun_ ; imagine if an American spelled the "Labour Party" of the UK as _Labor_ Party!?

John had class. Unlike Joanie he never went on a popular show to drag someone through the mud.

Now I did like Dynasty, Interesting thing John forsythe said, Dynasty wasn't the classic Dallas was and I agree with him.

Depends what side of "the pond" you're on. In England Deenesty. In America,Dienusty.

The latter - and only the latter (this is a PROPER NOUN; ditto for Licence to Kill) ~

They definitely looked on par with one another. Linda (born November 1942) was 38/39 when Joan (age 48) came aboard for season two back in 1981.

I always thought Linda was 45 at least. But certainly not 38. Gosh back in the day everyone looks old. I'm 37 now and I still look like a teenager. Back in the day people looked so sophisticated and their true age or older maybe because they were refined.