As a black woman, I could NEVER watch the Jubilee videos where they rate people based on “physical attractiveness”. It’d be bad for my mental health 💀💀💀💀

Jubilee gives 2015 buzzfeed or cosmopolitan vibes

What I find funny about Jubilee is that it says it wants to promote empathy but their comment sections are always anything but.

Jubilee with their format "middle ground" is also guilty of both siding (for the lack of a better term) and normalizing extremist views: When a group advocating for their (human) rights "debates" a group that wants to eradicate the first group out of existence there is no middle ground. Only one group is in the right here. And I feel like videos like this never have this message.

The intolerance paradox: To have a tolerant society we must be intolerant of intolerance.

Let's not forget how jubilee always gets right wing commentators equipped with their talking points to debate random people of the street

This line really hit me(8:39): “if every single young person was taught proper sex ed at school (one that includes the notion of pleasure, desire, consent gender norms, etc.), they wouldn’t see peach as an authority-they would naturally understand that it is fake.” I grew up in Mormon Utah where such education was essentially nonexistent. And I have spent YEARS unlearning the lies I internalized from peach (and I’m not done yet). I wish conservative parents understood this principle better.

I would add that there are two things that really bother me with jubilee's middle ground videos. First is how they always cast someone that seems "moderate" but actually is against many human rights, and that person is always praised in the comments for how calm and well spoken they were, no matter how unresearched and harmful what they said was. Then I think they should had fact checking in their videos and invite experts like sociologist or historians for example because the conversations tend to be surface level and based on the individuals experiences only (not all the time but often).

I used to be subscribed to jubilee back when it started blowing and i began to realize how like moderate it was. It would for example put transphobes and trans ppl in the same room and give them an equal platform. Transphobes would spew their discriminatory ideology and trans people had to sit there and it framed it as a simple debate and both sjdes were just two sides of a debate as if it wasnt trans peoples rights and personhood being talked about

Now THAT'S an eyecatching title! Well done, Alice! 🙂You're having a conversation that Abraham Lincoln himself was involved with. He argued against popular sovereignty (the idea that each state, North and South, should decide for themselves about slavery) because he argued that this argument suggested that one side was pretty much the same as another. He disagreed--saying that we should not try to find the middle ground between right and wrong but side with the right (not the political right, lol). This video is an excellent addition to the centuries long discussion!

Thank you for this. Jubilee is really infuriating when they have "middle ground" conversations with people that are extremists and hateful and that spread misinformation and essentially give them a platform. It's gross when the comments think speaking calmly is equal to being intelligent. Just because someone is calmly saying women's rights don't matter or invalidates objectively accurate experiences doesn't make them empathetic or respectable. Acting like people should be okay with an extremist's opinion is vile.

Jubilee just likes to stir up chaos like a reality TV show. They don't even take turns when debating half the time. I agree that peach is absolutely dripping in violence and hatred, and that makes me really upset, but the two sides of the argument are always women are better than those dirty horny men or women are sex objects let me keep it that way. I hate both of those takes honestly. I think it's totally normal and healthy to enjoy being a sexually mature human being, but we gotta get real here and start enforcing some serious regulations on this industry.

Bruh, I love to watch Juiblee when I'm alone and isolated in my room, I get drunk and binge-watch their videos and argue with the screen, say things out loud like "you're such an idiot, what a dumb opinion, that's totally not correct". That's fun af

"If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant." - Karl Popper

Well done! I wish the people who advocate against comprehensive sex-ed would understand that the alternative is driving young adults to learn about sex from porn hub....

YES! This. I had this problem for a long time with Jubilee's debates. They are many times confronting opposing ideas and positions in a way they seem to be equivalent or equally valuable. They once confronted flat-earthers with non flat-earthers. Got me really angry, because that sends the message that those are both valid theories that should look for coexistence or some middle ground. I'm sorry, but no. They are not equivalent. One is a scientifically consolidated theory and the other one is long-ago-refuted bullshit. To confront them like that is even insulting to scientists. Ideas that are harmful, hateful or unscientific should not be put on the same level as the others. It sends a very dangeorus message, it normalizes those ideas.

Middle ground is literally a logical fallacy and we should be dismissing it as such. Great video!

I’ve never known how to put the discomfort I feel towards “centrist” ideology to words, but this video did a fantastic job of verbalizing my feelings. It places hate on the same level as someone saying “hey I deserve to exist” and acts as though each are equal arguments. For example, there was one video (I’m not sure if it was Jubilee or some copycat) where they had incels debate feminists and it framed incel ideology as if it was as common and valid as feminism rather than a vocal minority. It always rubbed me the wrong way but I wasn’t sure why until now. Love the video as always!!!

“Human rights: Let’s compromise” sums up Jubilee

This video instantly reminded me of Karl Popper's "paradox of tolerance"; if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant.

Jubilee normalises and platforms bigotry in a gross way.

The way i unsubscribed to Jubilee because unbearable their contents are day by day. 💀

i hate how jubilee portrays each side of the argument as equal when one side is literally denying certain groups basic rights or is just straight up hate

Exploiting the controversial buzz from serious issues to pull in viewers is manipulative and should be recognized as such. Promoting tolerance is such a funny position they take, more like polarization and both sides syndrome.

this is a really creative video concept, i rly enjoyed it. i think the way jubilee takes on this centrist standpoint in the name of empathy only legitimizes/validates far-right ideologies, which often do not align with human rights. its like the paradox of tolerance, of not 'tolerating the intolerant'. by never drawing the line on free speech, society can become safer for hate speech than it is for minorities.

Another amazing video Alice! I've been struggling to explain why it frustrates me to see media producers platform extreme right-wing speakers without just sounding like a biased lefty but you are so amazing at explaining phenomena such as this!

I love that KZfaq's community guidelines makes it impossible for to have informed discussions on important topics without self-censoring. Wouldn't want kids to hear people speak clearly or seeing Portable Document Formats and Peach farmers being called out now would we?

That's definitely something I've noticed with Jubilee for example male feminists vs female anti feminists the trans participant was disrespected continuously and and to me it felt like they had to "open minded" to this attack on there sense of self.

I think porn since the 70s on has really messed up a lot of people sexuality and them being able to really find it on their own terms. ESPECIALLY women in hetero relationships. I am not okay with it anymore at all I don't watch, but the society I live in sort of shames people for not being okay with it - I think we're soaked in pornified culture and I'm a feminist - I agree with the anti-porn 70s feminist - I was born in 1981, and porn really messed me and my peers self image up - I can't imagine being a teen finding myself and my own sexuality in todays swamp of a porn culture.

I think the reason I wasn’t on the debating team was not only because no one wanted me but also I never participated because I’d take my stand (according to the situation) very seriously and maybe I was and am terrible at it.

I agree it's okay to be critical of problematic beliefs. I thought it was a little weird that they hugged or high five in the end. I think it was just a empathy, or pity thing for the person. At the same time I just like being nice to people. Even if they don't deserve the kindness. That might be my Achilles heel. I think if you don't like someone you don't have to be so friendly and hug, high five, or shake hands at the end with them. It's normal to not like someone whatever the reason is. You just don't like them. I never really thought of censorship the way you did since this whole time I don't like censorship. To be honest I do like this more aggressive approach to fighting back against bad rhetoric and beliefs

blown away by this. it has been a while since a KZfaq video made me think so much. making the connection to p*rn really puts a lot into perspective. and it's impressive how you got such a compelling message across in less than 15 minutes! i know i will be thinking about this for a while. thank you for putting words to this!

Lorsque j’étais jeune (vers 12 ans) nous avions eux un cours sur la sexualité, la dame nous demandait nos connaissance sur le sujet et j’ai levé la main pour mentionner que la pornographie n’était pas réellement comparable à la réalité.. La dame m’a dit que j’avais tort et que ça ce passait comme ça tout simplement.. Je suis resté sous le choc de voir une adulte penser ainsi et éduquer les jeunes sur le sujet ..

I don't think full on censorship is what's needed, but rather, a refraining of giving fringe voices a platform that's disproportional to the amount of people with that opinion. Like, 99.9% of scientists have come to a conclusion that anthropogenic climate change is real, but if you watch any news outlet they will both sides tf out of the subject, which gives viewers the illusion that there's more debate than there really is. Jubilee does this same thing when they make NASA scientists argue against flat earthers. They're just looking for eyeballs due to the profit motive (as you said). I still think flat earthers _should_ get a platform, but it should be 1 person that's a flat earther discussing their beliefs against 10,000 scientists.

Hot take - I do agree with a lot of what’s said about how Jubilee is like porn and how extremist views can be interlaced in the things said during discussions. I also agree with how censorship does have its place in “democratic” societies. However, I think the channel’s biggest issue is posing their discussions as debates. Participants seem to discuss issues based off the belief that they can somehow change the other side, convincing them they are right. Most of the time, this erupts in participants bickering at each other, not productive conversation. If discussions took the form of a dialogue, where participants offer their views on issues without trying to convince and they actually listened to each other, I think more of Jubilee’s videos would be worth watching and I know this can be hard a lot of the time because the issues discussed are typically people-centric. I think the point of the channel was originally to get people from different sides of the political spectrum to share their views on issues, but because it was built on an entertainment model (the content doesn’t matter as much as the message which is the same in every video), it becomes as Alice says like porn…

This video is so twisted, how can you not see the irony when you put "betrays democratic tradition" and "responsibly use cencorship" in the same sentence? ( 12:34 )

This is what i needed to make my day!

Better day when Alice uploads

I used to watch jubilee videos around 2019 and some of them were interesting but they started getting weird and some were just uncomfortable to watch. Sounds like things have only gotten worse

Your channel is a gem. Always fascinating insights.

That video has such a strong message! Most people really are unaware how important it is to utilize censorship to protect human rights, i feel like this aspect is often overlooked when debating this topic since everyone uses the “free speech” card whenever they want to normalize extreme ideologies

I think this is by far my favorite video of yours. Thank you!

Wow. The title made my raise my eyebrow but this was a very thoughtful analysis

Ironically, I had never heard of Jubilee, and now I’m incentivised to watch it. I think that the classic “dirty capitalist” counter-argument would be that the market itself provides a form of censorship-whether it’s salutary is a different question. Mostly, I think that platforms like Jubilee and “peach” make their subject matter performative in a way that is damaging. Our generation grew up on an oversaturation of “peach” and is having less actual s*x than any generation before it. We also grew up on things like Jubilee (as you describe it) and have become very vocal (performative) but, I would argue, profoundly depoliticised.

This is the first video I've seen by you. I thoroughly enjoyed the way you conveyed this message and found your voice very soothing. Keep it up:)

This is absolutely excellent, we need to be reminded of this more often. Thank you for this video

The thing you said about censorship and choosing what or who to show is absolutely right. It reminds me of my photography lessons no matter what you do its always subjective because of what you choose to frame.

1:00 “Where do you draw the line?” Cishet people are great at geometry because they can draw lines of all kinds and have been doing so for a while.

I completely agree with all of your sentiments. However, not to defend Jubilee in any way, as I do not agree with how they approached most topics, unfortunately people with extreme viewpoints exist. And to shield ourselves from this sad reality would be counterproductive. Sure, you can stumble upon an alt-right youtuber and be grossed out by their views, but you will most likely click out of that video, in the comments realise they live in an echo-chamber of likeminded people and be satisfied with the thought that they exist there, and spew their hateful rhetoric among their people. But the reality is much crueler, and these people are your teachers, neighbours, mother, father, brother sister. They do exist, and while I do think that, for example, putting a transperson and a transphobe in a debate, is very harmful to the transperson, and that jubilee video was extremely hard to watch, and I'm not sure what the point was in the end. But completely disregarding this reality is frankly what I think led to the rise of these extreme viewpoints. Im not from the US, but in my country, media is moderately left leaning and you dont really see any extreme religious right leaning views expressed, which made me honestly think that the society I live in is changing for the better. But the reality was very much different, and these people are getting angrier and angrier, and fighting harder and harder because they feel that their way of life is begin threatened. And now the right is growing in the US, in my country, all around Europe. So my point in the end is, even though I absolutely do not agree with extreme right sentiments, and wish their voices wouldn't be given a platform because of all the harm they do, we cannot pretend they doesn't exist. And unfortunately, they do have as much right to express those viewpoints, however harmful we might find them, as we do. And I think allowing these (not necessarily the jubilee ones) debates to happen, is sometimes a healthy thing to do. It reinforces the fact that society still has a long way to go, it might possibly open our minds to new ideas (in terms of changing our perspective and hopefully communicating our side more productively) and also in the end hopefully opening their minds a bit. Because if we just silence those voices, they wont go away, they will become more insidious. And they have become more insidious.

Wow, this video is insanely good! Thanks for your work.

Wonderful insights, thank you!

I am the leader of the jubilee hate club and i can't wait to watch this video

Yeah, I think it's a far stretch to compare Jubilee to porn and the conclusion around censorship is so problematic I don't even know where to start. Firstly let's unpack the porn comparison. 1. Jubille is like porn because they both show something raw and transgressive which intrigues us. With such a defining trait a lot of stuff then is like porn, almost everything entertaining on the internet and irl. 2. Jubilee reinforces beauty ideals like porn but Jubilee does it with more fluff around it. Reinforcing beauty ideals is something everyone can be guilty of, but the fluff in jubilee isn't just "we are all beautiful" condolence talk, participants reflect on why they reinforced them, noting that stereotypes are so ingrained within and that we have to make an analysis of why we deem some more beautiful than others, on top of that it shows disagreement even in the ranking video the men and women didn't completely agree with the compromised ranking, it shows beauty ideals differ with everyone even if there is a trend. Sure the deep stuff is really short because Jubilee cuts it down but that fluff is still a quite defining difference from porn. 3. Porn potentially leads to patriarchal violence like r*pe but is protected by Free speech, Jubille allows even potentially harmful rhetoric due to free speech like a porn platform. Again a lot of content would fall under this description and it's quite subjective what thoughts leads to harm. Every other ideology, thought, thing and identity can be twisted to cause harm, ex. The US bans books featuring queer themes because they think it incites transgenderism and they find them harmful. 4. Porn and Jubilee are both taken seriously because there is no alternative. This one is outright untrue. There are alternatives to both Porn and Jubilee, there are sex education resources online and there are serious hour-long debates exploring all nooks and crannies of an ideology, now they aren't as flashy and more intellectually challenging than porn and jubilee but they are viable alternatives that do exist. And you seem to forget that Jubilee shows not only right-wing zealots but left-wing ideas as well, engaging with each other. The equivalence would be a porn video narrated with sex ed info but porn does not do that. I find a platform that engages with different ideas admirable at a time when we are more likely to find ourselves in an opinion bubble. Now to the most concerning idea, that censorship is necessary to protect democracy. Of course, at face value, it may seem like a good idea, let's make ideas that propagate homophobia, racism, transphobia, etc. illegal to limit the ideas/ideologies spread and impacts, but there are several qualms. Firstly who decides what ideology to be banned from free speech, it could be governments but governments change and can then on the same basis that you propose include "harmful" ideas that aren't actually harmful, to use repression of speech as oppression rather than protection. It could be a mob or public majority opinion but that also changes all the time therefore the safest way to ensure democracy is to allow freedom of all speech even potentially harmful speech. Secondly, if it is the latter, de-platforming and social ostracisation, it isn't very effective, we hear time and time again that such treatment only leads to radicalisation, while deradicalisation isn't the only tool to promote progress it is a quite important one. The example you give with Le Penn and the other French politician points to just how ineffective de-platforming is, I know who Le Penn is, She ran again and nearly won the french election, and the other guy, never heard of him before this video. While no one should be forced to engage in ideas they don't like, it's completely understandable why a transperson doesn't want to debate their right to exist, it is by engaging and debunking those ideas that are the most effective way to convert followers of that idea. It's also the best way for a society to decide which ideology to follow, by showing both of them and giving people a choice to choose, that is the foundation of democracy. Now you also make the equivalence that promoting one idea over the other, or not platforming or engaging with certain speakers as being the same as censorship. I find that definition to be borderline dangerous as it diminishes real government-enacted censorship and it's scary how close that rhetoric sounds to the one used in Russia to ban opposition speakers. Companies/individuals can have authority over their platform but there are companies' platforms promoting opposite values there are alternative sources which is a very important distinction. It's you that betrays the democratic tradition of free speech by downplaying and then promoting censorship, not platforms that show different ideas, especially platforms like Jubilee that promote discussion of several ideas, not a middle-ground compromise even if that in practice is what democracy results to.

I never thought about this things and up until now Jubilee was one of my fav channels (I obviously realized that ranking women based on their appearance wasn't the most healthy thing to do and there were some problems with many other vidoes). Thanks for sharing such great points and quotes!

The algorithm just blessed me with this video. Was barely aware of Jubilee and was completely unaware of your channel before today. I look forward to checking out more of your videos.

Indeed, all the fake middle ground is resulting in the following: when uttering a slightly left idea many Americans react: "Communism never worked!" "Venezuelaa!" "Russia bot" etc. w t f!? Sometimes they sound like Pavlov dogs hearing a leftish whistle. And the aggression in their phrasing is also worrying. Similar issues happen with LGBT+ issues, BLM, the word 'woke' (just be respectful of other peoples feelings), and others. What to do?

woah, Alice; i've only watched a couple of Jubilee, but your video materializes the underlying wrongness i was getting from the way they organize their debates!

That is a great analogy! When I saw their thumbnails I started to question my own sanity.

this was fantastic and so refreshing. i hope more people will see this. it's scary how often equality is brought up in these "debate" sections. human rights are not up for debate.

Reading these comments suck ass and remind that a lot of people are trapped in echo chambers and dont realise how normal some of the stuff people say on jubillee is. Getting rid of people is effective for getting rid of people but it doesnt really help with getting rid of ideas however. If you want to advocate for violence dont cower from that and be honest instead of crying about platforming.

I’ll never forget when jubilee did a video in which they made a black victim of child m*lestation apologize to their white female editor because he left a valid critique on one of Jubilee’s ”debates”” because it “hurt her feelings”. It was disgusting, and the best example was of performative activism I’ve ever seen. It angered me because he was extra kind to her and victims of child abuse already suffer from self-blame. And SHE had the audacity to cry…Radical centralism apparently means blaming children who have been r*ped for not being “open minded” about the “faults” in the MeToo movement. To clarify: Jubilee is an American media sight and you have to acknowledge race relations and the problem of the “white female victim” and how it’s weaponized by liberals and conservatives, which she did when talking about how “depressed” critical comments on jubilee content made her. She constantly emphasized how much crying she did throughout the video, which was obviously a way to garner empathy in support. The white men she questioned actually left hate comments, but the black man left a well-thought critique. Thankfully l, It had the opposite though; most of the comments on that video critiqued her for being over dramatic and privileged. The intelligent thing to do would be to realize he never “left hate comments” and just remove his portion from the video as it was a legitimate critique. Also, this is the same channel that asked “should we get over slavery?” when slavery is still happening in the world. LINK: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNRibKubprmXYnk.html

I know this wasn’t the video point but really « Liberal democracies are based on human rights » an important change: it’s based on DECLARATIONS of human rights… this was probably said quickly but we can’t seriously say this when for exemple in France we have 1789 declarations of human rights while slavery… same thing with the US. And this is also the reason why « human rights » are debatable today. I think

That's a great video! Thank you!!

OMG! Yes. You nailed it!

Jubilee the pioneers of the false dichotomy. “Is Hitler bad? Hitler vs Non-Hitler Middle ground” Example above is “non-partisan” according to jubilee. even introducing Hitler in this context pretends the two sides of “hitler bad” and “hitler good” have equal debates. But Jubilee takes this a step further, pitting normal people against Hitler media hosts who would know all the hitler talking points. A solution would be titling their video “A hitler debate” and not having “two sides” to every argument.

I love this discussion, and think there definitely should be more about this topic. That said, how would you feel if we didn’t stop at “peach”, but didn’t allow there to be any more violent movies or video games? Violent music? Ultimately I think they are an easy target, but not the root of what causes human rights violations. I think things like education, poverty, community centers, and access to competent first responders have more of an impact on a community's likelihood of having instances of abuse than how much someone watches Jubilee or “peach”. Also, how do you know that you aren’t more likely to find someone who doesn’t watch Jubilee or “peach” to be someone who doesn’t believe in human rights? There also is the possibility that a lot of people watch this content that fundamentally disagree with it. A lot of it is clickbait, but is it “harmful”?

You're videos are always so well thought out and articulated. I'm consistently impressed. ❤

This is such an amazing video. Your presentation is wonderful and you put forward such important and under shared points and arguments. I love the work you do!

as with almost everything nowadays, ideology has been reduced to its aesthetic manifestations.

I find this comparison very interesting. However, I think there is definitely merit to allowing people to express any sort of moral judgement if it is presented kindly and sensitively. Especially when these beliefs are not uncommon. To do otherwise risks alienating the very people some may wish to convince.

Love your videos, I always learn something new!

Can't agree more with you, amazing video🎉

I’ve felt more and more jaded with regard to “debate” content lately. Maybe it’s just me, but I honestly don’t think this type of content really helps anybody. As you bring up, it’s almost like the content exists as nothing more than a self-congratulatory pat on the back. I don’t buy the argument that these debates are truly in the public interest, at least not some of them, where indeed, human rights are at the core of the debate. Sometimes I think the “other side” really doesn’t need to be entertained, and that doing so provides no benefit. I think there is and needs to be a distinction made between freedom of expression and responsible platforming in the public consciousness. There are certainly barriers that exist in government and many institutions, but it’s still a pretty wild place on social media platforms.

Can't wait to Hear more HOT TAKES from Alice

great video!! this highlights a lot of my issues with centrism in general + companies using that approach irresponsibly

Hi I watched a couple of your videos so far. Just wanted to say they're really insightful. Thank you.

This is a very good video 👍

it's the "aw why can't we all agree to disagree" life philosophy. Getting different people to communicate their opinions could be well intentioned. But the "middle ground" format is ill-conceived for many of the serious topics they take on.

loved the vid

I love this comparison great video

So your problem boils down to they host people i disagree with, therefore they should stop because diferent views are scawy?

Wake up babe Alice just posted a new video

You convinced me. I wasn't sure what the argument meant from the title but now I can't unsee it.

You are such a needed voice! 💯

The question with debating terrible people is whether it's better to do so or not in every single case. There's not a general answer. If you can deal with your opponent and the situation doesn't disadvantage you then why not? I think we can become quite arrogant if we think that just talking to people legitimizes their point of view in front of an audience. It assumes that people can be persuaded quite easily or that they aren't very informed.

12:54 The number of times I’ve heard the word ‘echo chamber’ be abused. There’s a disdain towards ‘woke’ people but conservatives are allowed to flourish. Make it make sense.

Commenting for engagement. Love your videos 💙

I absolutely agree with everything you've said in this video. I remember in middle school I had a cut/jubilee/buzzfeed phase and I know I felt bad watching some of the videos cuz it was draining but I didn't understand why. I feel like at the end of each one, you get post ragebait clarity when you realize what you just spent the last twenty minutes watching was pointless and shameful, just like with peach. but the reason I didn't know what made me feel like this is because they purposefully try to make you feel like this content is okay at the end of each video, with little bts moments or the high fives with ppl who don't support human rights. I genuinely hate jubilee and how many brains they are frying with their content. im really glad you put this into sensible words, this was a great video

I don't really see the problem with peach, it's fantasy like video games. I grew up as a kid playing violent video games and I understand it is fiction and I detest violence in real life. Violent video games, rough sex, violent lyrics in music, etc. are all healthy outlets for aggression. If you don't get that aggression out of your system, if you don't have a safe and legal outlet, then that aggression gets bottled up inside until it bursts out in a harmful way where somebody actually gets hurt. Humans are a social species with empathy, and we need friendship, family, social interaction with other people, love, etc. to keep us from being driven into insanity. When you put a human being in solitary confinement, they go insane and try to kill themselves to escape the insanity. Like wise, we need healthy outlets for our dark side so that we don't resort to harm in order to satisfy that dark side and get it out of our system because keeping it inside is driving us mad. I want a society where the criminals and overly-aggressive have access to safe and healthy outlets for their aggression instead of them causing real illegal harm. So violent fantasies are a safeguard against actual violence, just as reasoned speech, comedy, singing contests, dance competitions, sports, video game tournaments, etc. are safeguards against violence and physical fights. Also, I think it's better to educate oneself about the reasons why a person has hateful views and opinions in the first place, understand the psychology and also understand the ideas and use critical thinking and empathy to combat those ideas, because a lot of abusive people are victims of abuse themselves, since abuse begots abuse, so try to understand why they have those views and attempt to debunk them in a compassionate way so that they listen to you. If you cut such people off, they will dig in, and develop a persecution complex believing that they must be right because they are being censored, that somebody is trying to hide something. And cutting them off wouldn't eliminate their hateful views, it would just force them underground and they would still spew those views in private and secret (same for Prohibition of alcohol in the 1920s, it drove alcohol underground, it didn't actually give people a good reason to stop drinking alcohol, which can only be achieved by using reason, science, etc. to convince that person that you make a good case for being against alcohol, therefore I will voluntarily give up alcohol). If you want a person to stop having such hateful views, they need to have accessible and affordable education, voluntarily give them up.

Thank you for this! The question of the role and function of censorship in the society is very interesting to me and the topic doesn't seem to be discussed enough. It sure is hard to talk about, as most people will immediately think of some strict form of state censorship right away. But ignoring the fuzzy edges of the concept (which can come in much "lighter" forms as the ones you mention) bars us from engaging with it constructively.

Very insightful take, loved the video.

this is a great video good job

But as a teacher, it's a helpful alternative to show students how to debate. Well, it's our job to choose which content to present. Anyway, i just discover your channel recently and i really love your POV in so many things. Subscribed right away. Keep the quality!

the recent vid jubilee did abt trans ppl, specifically talking abt whether or not trans kids should be allowed to exist..... yeah that pissed me tf off. i actually unfollowed samantha, one of the trans ppl who was in that debate, because i cannot put up with this debate bro mentality. my life is not a debate, my personhood shouldnt be questioned yk? like its so dehumanizing and i just cannot put up with that liberal bs that "we should all get along and try to agree" like?? how am i supposed to compromise with someone who just flat out doesnt think i should exist.... its so frustrating anyway this was a great vid :) im glad im not alone in hating jubilee. but ngl im not gonna stop hate watching it because it can be fun in that trash tv kinda way. im not going to stop taking it seriously tho, because a lot of these discussions theyre having mean a lot to me, im v passionate abt politics. but yeah i should stop ranting sorry lol

This is very enlightening.

As a matter of habit I always skip KZfaq video intros, so it took me wayyyyy to long to understand what "peach" was 😂😭

I'm looking forward to your next hyperfixation and listen to a video essay about it despite knowing nothing about it. I just agree with you on everything

I get what you’re saying, but I also want to amplify the voices of the sex workers themselves… peach is not inherently bad, and that misconception stigmatizes the workers who create peach… peach is not uniformly female submissive, or is purveyed from the male gaze/reinforcing patriarchy. So much peach content is aligned with liberation movements, and lest we forget, sex work is real work

I feel smarter after watching your video, great work 😊

In fact, your whole channel reminds me of the black mirror series "Fifteen Million Merits" episode S01E02, more precisely the ending. Thanks for the content.