Karate works if you use it to defend yourself I mean self defense (you don't challenge people to fight but) and if you want to use it on UFC you have to modify it just like Lyoto Machida and Wonderboy Thompson. Mix it with grappling art and it will work

Hey Jesse I just wanted to say that I’m a karate practitioner and I find karate works, in many more ways then we think.. I don’t regret my choice of starting a path a few years back because it helped me find who I am inside and become a great father figure for my son.. helped me through a lot. Sorry for the long comment. And thanks Jesse for everything

It's all a state of mind for me. If you dont doubt yourself, and train effectively then it will work. The self perfecting aspect didnt even need to go into play. Because when self protection was hot, it was like you were carrying a gun. To only be used in defense Edit: Living in America, being a martial artist isn't easy. Because martial arts is treated like you're using a gun. And if they can. they'll use it against you in court. So you gotta lay low about who you tell

Karate certainly can work but I think it when it come defending yourself on the streat or keeping yourself safe on the streat it is a whole lot easier to do that than winning a competive karate match or winning a competive match of any combat sport.

Many MMA people tend to bash karate especaily point karate but as far as point karate goes I think an advantage it would give to an MMA fighter is that because point karate does not use powerful blows so it could potentialy encourage an MMA fighter to focus more on mobility.

I thought the quote was "A punch is just like a punch, a kick is just like a kick." to mean that every movement changes according to circumstance and there is no rigid, single 'way' to do it right. He's also quoted as saying there are no segments of totality, pointing to how the end of one movement can set up or be part of another. Basically, he was the very last thinker to apply relativity to a field.

Its the right punch or kick for the right situation we can not anticipate with the outcome . We dont know what kick we need before any moment. It must happen without thinking . That way we must learn all styles and train them so mutch So we can use attack like a reflex

I think Bruce's approach to martial arts and fighting really comes down to his water quote. "Be formless, shapeless. Like water. You pour water into a cup it becomes the cup. You pour water into a tea pot it becomes the teapot. Water can flow or it can crash." The ability to adapt is what is most valuable. I think alot of people (nobody in this comment section above^) really don't understand this concept. They always try to compare styles. Karate vs judo. Jiu jitsu vs taekwondo. MMA vs traditional martial arts. I think to observe the benefits and drawbacks by comparing styles you get a valuable discussion. But most often people these days love to say that one or the other is "practical/useful/useless". Which is extremely silly. I asked a wing Chun sifu about this once and he responded with the scenario. "So if you are a wing Chun guy and you happen to be fighting a jiu jistu guy right. You obviously don't wanna fight on the ground. You don't wanna play his game you wanna make him play your game." Which I think sums it up well also. Adapt. Something else I find alot of people say to criticize any martial art is this. "Okay what if you do this... But then they do this. What then?" And they say this line to say that "oh you're whole martial art practice is worthless cuz this one technique can be mitigated." Which again is absolutely silly. If you throw a punch and they block it or Dodge it whatever. Obviously you do something else! It's not the end of the engagement if your punch doesn't land. Ofc we want to train so that every strike we throw DOES land. But just because it doesn't land doesn't mean " you lose ". You adapt. You do something else. It's not that complicated. But people love throwing ego and vanity into this topic which is crass and alittle disgusting. Sure it builds confidence to learn a kind of self defense. But like miyagi said in the karate kid "Someone always gets hurt."

God I hate all that Asian esoteric crap. What is the usefulness of saying an orange is like an orange and a banana is like a banana? So much malarky in Asian martial arts.

yeah, but is not about punchies and kickies, is about rules. If you are training in a style when you can kick the groin or punch the face, when you goes to street fight, you won't be able to defend yourself against punch and kicks in the face or groin. I should not ignore muscular memory in the fight.

I dont remember saying this. - Buddha

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I mean also said "I don't fear a man who practice 10,000 kicks I fear a man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times" soooo 🤦‍♂️

​@@cagefreequeso300 Which means very likely: 1. If there is a better technique use it, even if it's another style. And 2. train for mastery, not for variety. So very likely (not garuanteed) no contradition.

Karate means empty hands, at its core it should be adaptive but somehow became rigid.

@@cagefreequeso300 one kick 10,000 times and proper guard

That's actually a quote from Van Damme in Bloodsport

That's *full contact* Karate. What about the other ones?

@@b3nl555 it is still karate i practice kyokoshin

@@lauritsjacobsen8345 Good point.

@@lauritsjacobsen8345 kyokushin is full contact, im at iko2 shinkyokushinkai

They’re fast and aggressive as fuk when sparring and my striking background is western boxing, American kick boxing and tkd

Edwin Serrano He is the best Karate Nerd. 😎 You can see interesting videos about Karate in my channel too😊😉🙏

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@@necromanteerrante8095 Pat Morita never claimed to be a martial artist, although Goju-Ryu was developed by Chojun Miyagi . Hence the name of the character. ;)

Edwin Serrano oss

I trained in Isshinryu as well for about 10 years or so. And had very similar experience growing up. I would agree that Karate does work. At least it did for me. But I also think you need a teacher that will show you how to apply it properly.

@@TurtleDude05 I had a similar experience with judo in the 60's meaning that after throwing a few bullies I was pretty much left alone. Still got talked crap to, as boys are going to do no matter what, but they always stopped short of getting physical. Much of this video applies to judo as well. Street judo ain't tournament judo but the dojo training is essential to effective street judo. One simply needs to forget any rules and reliance on a gi and naturally add back in the ear biting, punches, eye gouging, etc., of a real fight.:)

That's rad. Great style, with a lot of teachers who would teach good application.

@@shanefistell8890 It really doesn't matter what is hidden in Kata if it's never trained.

Cool. I'm learning Okinawa Karate.

trouble is, the "average person" isn't generally the one attacking you. It's the aggressive one whose been in lots of fights.

@@magwan77 not really anyone who can get drunk

correct! know not only the how, but also the why!

magwan77 I have purple belt in karate, I learned how to make someone let their hand go no matter how that big someone is, or what to do when being attacked with knife

Yeah, and if you are a good Black belt, theyre done

Ok icy mike

Confuscious say

Best way to gauge: If you have to put in "special conditions" before it becomes useful, then it is not truly useful.

Uless

It's based on styles

ACAB

What style did you do

@@Syn7axErr0r Wado Ryu but all styles of karate will be effective.I live in UK so we don,t have guns. A low fast front foot side kick against an offender moving in quickly towards you usually stops them in their tracks and allows you take further action e.g. cuffs , baton strike.

@@jwgitface I just started studying in tang su doo

@@Syn7axErr0r Good luck on your journey.Don,t try to run before you can walk - practice makes perfect. If you can do something every day then your progress will be swift.Always listen to your instructor , he knows best.

I second that, I came from muay thai and fought in a kyokushin tournament, one of my opponent was eating headkicks like pancakes. He was like a wall of bricks.

I'm trying to get into kyokushin

@@OnyxXThePunch Do...no try.... haha ;)

I wonder if kyokushin fighters age well.

@@psuedomonas1 they dont.

But will it save u against a grappler

@@redlawton8896 depends on ho taught you and hat you were taught. I trained at a school that went more towards practical self defence than sport. e were taught to end the fight in 30 seconds or less! which means devastating strikes to targets that may stop or halt the opponent. all the while taking in the situation. example, what if its a friend who is drunk? of course you do not want to hurt him so you use more controlling techniques. but if its someone ho is trying to really harm you, then strike fast, strike hard and end it!! primary targets to effect the most impact.

@@stevendoty9408 What kind of Karate were you taught and what school trained you that Karate ?

@@girijyanmurugathas3896 shaolin kenpo with a mix of american kenpo. learned in Mass. a long time ago. we even had a reality night where you had to spar around tables, chairs, etc. maybe one would take place in an alley, or crowded parking lot, etc. also trained in street clothes at least once a month.

@@stevendoty9408 Thats cool. I still didn't the school that you trained them in though?

what other types of full contact karate is there other than kyokushin?

Does this fall into the Okinawan type that he mentioned ?

Indeed

@Suryadeep Misha japanese karate yes american karate not really.

​@Ilyas Shirwani Ashihara and Enshin Karate are quite popular, especially the latter one, and both have their parenthood in Kyokushin. Another interesting style is Kudo. You could describe Kudo as MMA karate.

because he was drunk. modern karate is not very good for defending yourself on the street.

Please don't kick me...

@@sameedyousuf6036 No, we are actually taught to be a lot more loose on the street, but in the dojo its more so the spiritual thing so we are not going to always have a deep and strong ass stance in a real fight.

Draw Kage You wouldn’t last 2 minutes against a MT fighter with 6 months of training

@@manlikemb6226 Its funny to see americans talking about karate, they probably have the worst karate in the planet.

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My Sayonachi is better than your crane kick, thank you!

None of them did it properly.

Didn't do it right

@Vegan Pete Hats off best comment ever !

Did he have a big cobra painted on the wall with "No mercy!"?

@@SamuraiPoohBearBudoBear Hahaha no, it was the Dojo Kun that was painted.

See the problem with that kind of thinking is yes in self defense but when it comes to competition against other elite opponents that is a weakness. The ability to very the power of your strikes is fundamental to fighting other elite fighters. Rokas on his YT channel posted his first MMA fight and to me this problem was glaring. His jab was too strong. He couldn't set up off his jab because he jab moved his opponent back too much this limited his ability to throw combinations off his jab. If you watch an elite boxer like GGG he varies the power of his jab. GGG actually has 3 jabs. He doesn't throw his full force jab until his opponents back is against the ropes or if he wants his opponent to back off. Foreman v. Moore is also a great example. Foreman pulled his punches most of the fight to trick Moore into standing right in front of him. Foreman was afraid that if he hurt Moore early that Moore would get on his bicycle and Foreman would never catch him.

Also when someone attacks you you have to use double standards. ONe is .. avoid any attack as it is like infinite power. On the other hand if you get hit.. Treat it like a touch of a butterfly .. If you can.. that is.. If you cannot then you already lost. If you follow this you will be invinsible in battle. If you are lucky that is.

finally someone that has some sense here if you want self defense just do boxing

@@samuraigameing9556, boxing will only help you a little bit when it comes to self defense. But at then end of the day. There is no perfect self defense. All these self defense disciplines just increases your chances of survival. Do get the right self defense for you. Most taekwondo schools aren't a self defense school anymore sadly. In that case boxing is better, if you get sparring practice.

@@armyparty yeah true there will never be a perfect self defense at the end of the day its just how you react in different situations

Exactly.

Just do a shouryuken and hadoken. : 3

What style was they using

People tend to forget lowering their morale helps.

The Martial art god the doesn’t matter

@@glens2019 one thing i realised when i was bullied at school that it isnt the strongest guy that wins a (normal street) fight. It is the one that uses everything he has, the one that shows no remorse. I was(and i still am) pretty small(174cm or about 5feet and a half) and i am really not atheltic but i won nearly every fight i had against one of my bullies because i wanted to win and i gave everything i had while they were only trying to amuse themselves. I kicked they arses until it stopped. The best thing you can do if you are bullied is beating them up. Teachers, parents, the principle or the police wont help but a good old upercut will do

PS1 Hagrid they were farmers practicing on each other getting ready for the samurai.

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@@lionelndalanids6171 they were the samurai all along

@@danceswithspiders2309 uh... i think the samurai society already fell by that time.

Karate is the best

My club members and I acted out the tales of our Master, pretty much sums up karate and the fantasy life of TMAs

So you got your first Dan as it takes two years good for you

Then your a tenth Dan...don't you have your own dojo?

@@carlbrierley6015 wish I was a 10th dan! I do have my own dojo and hold 5th Dan rank in wado-ryu

@@adamhawke9191 I'm sorry I have a thing about the tenth Dan and I thought that if you did over 20 years you gain your tenth ...And I praise you for your accomplishment 🙏

I DID KEMPO, yet my sensie retired and I've been looking for a new teacher for years and amongst that getting my life together. I have found one in Goju Ryu style and I know its history. I do not know any wado Ryu close to me or I would try it out.

@@carlbrierley6015 thank-you for the kind words sir

pst... rett over skogen øst for meg ;) hehe..

Also gsp, wonderboy, Michelle waterson

No, because he’s a genius?

@@jw-nz2vx See his fights man, that's karate punches and movements. The guy made UFC guys look like amateurs for a long time. People need to have respect because BJJ is just old judo newaza.

karate wont work in mma if u just learn karate. same goes for every martial art

No as Jesse wasn't allowed to do a dozwn moves on his brother due to the rules

Except for the low block, it better to pull a Muay Thai for kick defense, just saying its more reliable for the average joe

@Salt and Lemons you'd rather die than let your parents pay to have a highly-skilled professional teach you how to defend yourself and develope physical awareness and self-discipline?

You are right. When you practice.... I practiced blocking.. striking a tree or so and then it was useful and easy ... But the secret is to practice. If you have no time and opportunity then dont blame the art. It is said that you should practice everyday.. at least a little. Also how you practice. If you have no chance to really practice then nothing will good come out. Also practice your karate when you walk talk and do something like clean and so on.. Wax on .. Wax off philosophy is real. Being pollite is part of training. Helps to reduce effects of EGO.. this helps when you need to dodge an attack. It also makes you more sensitive to other people's thoughts and feelings.. This way you can sense any change in mood or if someone's aggression level changes.. And so on.. Many, many things.. That is Karate

that's great boxing is my hobbie and i fully respect karate but in boxing we learn knock the opponent out cold and don't focus on how you look focus on defending yourself against the person harming you in real life or your opponent in sparring or a boxing match

Good observed, you hit the head of the nail.

There is no difference in true nature only in the perception of it.

well said, sir.

I agree completely. I mainly boxed as a kid more than 20 years ago before the whole mma craze. I did a little Karate and Japanese Ju jutsu through the years. What seemed to help me the most in fights and I fought a lot while in the Navy was the ability to read my opponents. I could tell when they telegraph a punch and the ability to understand distance. How far I need to be to avoid getting hit or how close I need to be to land a punch. I guess you could add foot work. I was always in position to punch or move away.

Totally agree.. there is one guy asked if, if muay thai is better than karate. Then i asked him, how many hours a week he is willing to spend.. is he ok with having a bruise every so often? Is he had the energy to go full throttle every training session? If the answer is no to any of those question. better do (non kyokunshin) karate.. a decade ago, when muay thai become a very popular sport, everyone were thinking of doing muay thai, eventhou its mostly commercialized mild version.. lots of people just dont have what it takes. They cant train more than twice a week, they wanna have a spare energy to do other things after training n so on.. in the end, lots of them gave up n didnt get anything. Those that sticking to karate however, now were healthier, peaceful n had significantly better combat prowess.. than those that forced fhemself to join popular combat sport, after watching a few k-1 n UFC matches

The pressure from a real fight is completely different. Sports where you can lose by ko are better in preparing you for that pressure, even if the moves they teach aren't as powerful.

fights are not equal coz fighters are not equal. too much stereotypes to tell tho. who could have guessed that fighting for your life is different then fighting for a thropy lol..

In our shotokan club we set some time aside for PK. The idea being you get out of a tight spot not win in a street fight. I can say from experience it has worked for me. Our main focus is not defense and I won't claim to be a fighter but I'd have a decent chance if I was cornered now thanks to karate

@@kid497gaming4 it's an illusion to think that it is possible not getting hit in a fight.

@@kid497gaming4 it's about both I think

Same as you. I am in a traditional goju-ryu school, our sensei teaches us kata, we work bunkai a lot, and regularly our sensei tells us "now, if you are in a street fight right now then... " and shows us another application of the movements...

For a regular guy/girl, this is the most practical karate style that ever existed. The more you understand this style, the more you know that this is not the competition form of karate, but it always useful to defend yourself before any dangers from other person may inflict to you in real world situation.

This was way back in the early 1960's. I never said that I learned "traditional" Okinawa Te. What I'm saying is that I learned in the "more traditional" way. Unlike today, we weren't given colored belts or points or merits or whatever they do today. We were taught to fight. Period. How to prevail over an opponent who truly meant to do us harm.

I had the same problem! I got called a "barbarian" LOL! I took Tang Soo Do, what did you take? I got banned for life by two karate dojo's from taking part in tournaments. I did crack a girls ribs with a thrusting side kick. she was coming at me and I reacted. Boom! she went flying and I got disqualified. I did what I was taught. I was told "This isn't a street brawl tone it down."

They called me "Berserker" in the classes cause i fought with power and velocity, i was definitely not one of those Zen dudes from my karate class.

@@kbanghart Yea, i try but i can't so i changed sports. I'm into Muay Thai and Boxe now, i have improved a lot mentally in these couple of months.

@@kbanghart I'm not Zen but i'm a lot more wise, calm and humble. I guess that's cause of meditation but boxe is doing very good for me. They still call Berserker tho.

True said

Me too :)

Biting the face move is commonly used by little brothers in the martial art called "Brother Fu"

Yeah but sometimes you cannot avoid a street fight, so you have to defend yourself and end the fight as fast as possible.

@@kbanghart Exactly, only use karate to defend yourself

Original Kyokushinkai?...it never existed. What does exist is the fact that the "founder" of kyokushin was a Korean called Mas Oyama. He went to Shotokan schools and some "Japanese Goju" schools for six months. What he did was practice and practice hard karate for several years before going professional. Very few fighters could withstand the training except Okinawan Goju Ryu where kyokushin came from. Why is it called Okinawan? Because some Japanese said their version was real while the original Okinawan was theoretical, which was never true. It is for the battlefield. Kyokushin was never a true style just kickboxing for sport in the ring. Two Cents

Only 30% of Kyokushin syllabus is taken from Karate. Others 20% are Muay Thai, taekwondo. 50% of Kyokushin training is conditioning of body and close fighting. Thats make Kyokushin different from any other styles.

@@professionalsmunch3541 I've been practicing Kyokushin since I was 9 y.o. (I am 39 right now), and I might say you are right. In the last 10 years I dive deep into Karate source, became a Zen Monk and have been studying this art as much as I can. When I look back to Kyokushin, I can see it is a product of this social movement (that I call decadence). However, my daily effort is to put my Kyokushin practice back in the Karate rail (and this is almost begin again, from zero). But I feel It is possible. The result maybe can not be called Kyokushin... Let's see...

Sensei Jessie your video tells it like it is. Your video made me reflect on my past studying Kyokushinkai Karate. Our Chief Kyokushin Instructor Shihan Richard Wolicki of the Spring Valley NY Dojo incorporated Taijutsu techniques with our Kyokushin Karate. Not every Kyokushin Dogo did this. A few years ago I told Shihan Richard Wolicki that as a both a Military and Civil Police Officer I used more the Taijutsu techniques you taught me much more then the standard Kyokushinkai karate striking techniques. I further elaborated that " We do not want to be involved in a "Rockem Sockem Robot Prolonged Situation". Rather you want to quickly redirect and immobilize neutralize your oponent. Taijutsu/ Jujutsu/Aikido techniques are much more effective efficient in real world situations then the use of mere Karate Strikes alone. Rather a combination of both is required to be effective and survive. Shihan Richard Wolicki agreed with what I had to say. I went further saying I wish Mas Oyama had fully Incorporated Taijutsu and Aikido techniques into Kyokushinkai Karate. Such Taijutsu/ Aikido techniques was taught to more senior students selectively and should have been taught across the board to both low and high ranking students in all Dojos. You are 100% historically correct that Karate was "Tailored" by the Japanese to be an alternative to Western Boxing where Karate dropped the Taijutsu/ Aikido Redirecting techniques. The " Tailoring", eliminating of Effective Redirecting Taijutsu/ Aikido techniques was a Big Mistake of Japanese Karate and many people have unfortunately paid for such mistakes.

what other types of full contact karate is there other than kyokushin?

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@@M_JackOfAllTrades This... Is such a romantic view of the whole like no other. I know people who say the same and I get the pleasure of training with such people. The truth is that they want to believe karate as practiced in sports works everywhere, which is a sweet lie we tell ourselves, either to elevate karate as a true martial art or that we've practiced so much that our black belts make us a good fighter regardless of the situation. This couldn't be further from the truth. Sports karate works against sport karate. The same wouldn't work if a boxer came raging onto you ready to deliver a several pounds punch to your face. What are you going to do? Stop the punch with Age Uke and counter with Gyaku Zuki? If that thought ever came into a person facing someone who wanted to truly harm them, I'm pretty sure the second thought they had was if he was being lied to his whole life. Self defense is self defense. Sports are sports. There's a HUGE gap between these. And just so I don't deny everything, I agree that kata practice enhances our way of moving ourselves, positioning and making sure we know the intent of the technics, but the way we achieve that is not through blind repetition of the forms as we do when preparing for a competition. All the best to you.

True that. I tried karate, but didn't take to it. Tried another art and found my stride. Gotta find the shoe that fits.

Machida, Thompson, GSP and others have shown Karate works just fine with rules.

@Recondo What looks like show? One of the marital arts I've mentioned? Or martial arts in general?

This is true, but it's not your quote; it's Mike Tyson you're quoting. It would be great to give him credit.

@@pehunter1 everyone know that quote already,it s really unnecesary

Plen122, really? It’s no longer in existence, I thought, only its descendant disciplines of Wado-ryu, Motobu-ryū, Matsubayashi-ryu and Shōrinji-ryū

@Siddhartha RC It works just like Karate, but I have been training different martial arts to bring what I find useful into my own Karate and I discard what I don't find useful. So I do continue training with different styles of Karate and other Martial arts, it keeps me learning and developing.

@@dannycalugar Aikido works or aikijutsu works. If You are to oppose an armored guy with the sword with bare hands. Punching him will not help.

@@dannycalugar JUDO does work against boxers.... Just watch Gene lebell Vs boxer Or even Lennox Lewis Vs a judoka on a sparring. Judoka just needs to resist some punches and clinch.

Its a good thing that you never had to put your martial arts experiance to the test but never the less thats wonderful that you actually have experiance in Shotokan karate Aikido and Judo.

So Jesse can beat a Kyokushin karateka in a street fight? B.S. Ossu.

Gun vs hand...who will win?

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Nice! Ultimately, it's not WHAT you do but HOW you do it... Keep training hard and hope to see you back in Karate one day maybe! :-)

I usto do wado Ryu years ago now dose help in some ways I ended up leaving after my black belt and asoon as working I just never got time I did then went back to drawing board did MMA and boxing now I just go gym sometimes boxing but after amount of injury's I received in the years body's just not as cut out as it once was but I did end up doing door works at night clubs and the hole natural stance was always helpful because of it's unpredictability.

@@tonytaylor5165 wow ,black belt! Im working on my brown belt now. I use to do shotokan karate 30 years ago, this style is fun and I do agree unpredictable. The stance is natural and strikes short. Definitely a new experience for me!

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So much to learn, so little time... it truly is a lifetime study, isn’t it? Thanks for chiming in! 😄👍

Laurence Lance incredible story. This makes me think a lot. Thank you so much 🙏

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Or something like "ahs ho..." anyway:)

That dates back to old Japan when peoples bodies were not as well developed as they are now, the height, muscle and bone density was far smaller than people are today. But Karate is still awesome today no doubt about it!

And then if you miss you are incredibly vulnerable

@@fizziz_1035 You can put your whole body behind a strike without over committing or over extending

@@user-vt8jp7px9v that's really nothing special or different than other martial arts. Won't end a fight in two shots

@@fizziz_1035 That's because it's not. There's no secret style with all the answers which is why I want to cross train.

You such a gay face.

The Kara in karate was originally written with a character meaning Chinese but the Japanese changed it to one meaning Empty...

@@siasti That's correct. I believe that is meaning of Kenpo. Chinese Hand.

Viejo Tronco only for competition. For self defense technique and repetition is more important. Free style full contact sparring and you should be in good shape but a street doesn’t go ten rounds not even ten minutes and the attacker is rarely a trained fighter.

Just doing what I love! Thanks for supporting my work 😄🌟

I totally agree with you.

Agreed

Aikido is Budo sport unless you train like a fighter

Sorry have to disagree. You can find thousands of people using boxing, muay thai,bjj,judo and even karate BUT give me a good video of it working in mma or a street fight cause with all of these people who are security guards saying 'I used it myself' there should be SOME video evidence. Then again you may be practicing a aikido that is very similer to judo and bjj if so disregard this comment.

Banju Bullet, even if you were to have video you wouldn’t likely be able to tell the difference simply because anything that is very traditional was made to be used in street fights. They don’t look like Jackie Chan movies.

Ameri-do-te

@@szymongrabarczyk3561, damn, thrust of freedom works as magic every time

@@oleglazarenko8295 unless your opponent restomp your groin first ;)

Kyokushinkai

@@maartenvit3218 yeah but they're missing punches to the head so sadly no although if they punched each other in the head it would probably be my favorite style

@@renedoe574 what do you mean?

Hey Bruh same here

@@stevesteve7072 okay this is how it goes. Boxing although it does not have kicks it does have the best punching style, and more importantly punches to the face they also have great footwork. I like to see it like this in ANY fight outside of karate you will get punched in the face, weather that is in the street, muay thai or mma that's why karate guys do get humbled when they step out because they are fighting in a more realistic scenario. I personally believe for a striking martial art to have no punches to the head really kills it as so much is thrown away when you put in that rule, it also kills the defence that karate practioners have against punches to the head as they have no head movement. Boxing is by no means the perfect martial art but they are hard nosed and specialized in the main weakness karate has. Karate is by no means useless as many mma fighters use karate techniques those mma fighters are around 10% karate although that 10% is very useful. I would recommend most karate practioners to head down to a muay thai or mma gym if their interest is leaning towards self defense and practical applications.

@@fizziz_1035 where did you learn that karate has no strikes to the head? I can wholeheartedly disagree with you on behalf of everyone in my dojo. And also, there is no "best" punching style, because its just a style and styles differ a lot and therefore are often not comparable to one another in a realistic way. I agree with you that boxers are more "battle-experienced" so to speak than the typical karateka is, but, as you already said, boxing is specialized, which makes it rather difficult to use against an opponent on the streets who knows what he's doing. I don't wanna say with this that it's easier to fight on the street using karate. but it's by no means less effective (in the right hand at least). Cheers!

@@superwayn1 you may have strikes in the head in your dojo keyword YOUR 99.9999999999999999999999999% of karate schools don't. When you say their is no best punching style I will wholeheartedly disagree, all boxers do is punch and due to the fact that it is a martial art based on practicality if a new way of punching came along that was more effective than the ones boxers currently use boxers and kickboxer would start to use that instead. I think you have a great dojo but remember what you are doing really is not the norm for most karate. I stand by what I said. When people point to 'their is no best style' because a boxer beat a kickboxer the way I look at it is this, if you get one guy and clone him 2 times and send one to do karate, one to do boxing and one to do muay thai and pick them all up after 6 months the one who trained muay thai would be the best, now of coarse its very benificial to mix these styles but that's why people say muay thai is the best, not unbeatable by any means but overall the best.