Gameplay commentary? nah I prefer compiler commentary

"Windows distros" That's a word combination I thought I would never hear

what dish soap should i use? what exact chemicals are you looking to use? idk man i'm just tryna keep my dishes clean.

I think you're way off here. The reason people don't like it is simple - it's not intuitive. Ive used dozens of OSes and currently run MacOS, windows, and linux simultaneously in my house. And I can say with certainty there is not a single particular task, application, or configuration I have tried to do on linux without something going wrong and having to open 14 tabs on my browser to figure it out. And I've been using it for years. It's regardless of what distribution. Even very experienced computer users struggle because nothing "just works".

we can hear the fans going sicko mode from the gentoo package compiling lol

Who the hell is Gernu and why is he slashing Linux

You misunderstand why people get annoyed with Linux. The ruby developer understood people better. Linux should be if you want to customize it you can, but if you don’t we have a reasonable default. Most of Linux doesn’t use reasonable defaults and expect you to do all the work of setting everything up. To some this is what they want, but for others they just want stuff to work without having a PhD in computer science. The evolution mail client is a perfect example instead of just entering your email username and password. It expects you to configure the IP address for the mailing protocol. Why? Linux constantly demands that you know everything about how it works to use it. People just want a computer that works, and protects their privacy. That’s why Apple became so popular. I know they aren’t honest about how private they are, but you look down on people for not wanting to waste a bunch of time customizing. What happens if my hard drive crashes, and I haven’t backed up for several months. Hours gone, and having to recustomize shit. Package managers they are great until something goes wrong and they can’t fix themselves. Time for forums and digging crap out of your computer to get it working again and never quite being sure you got everything.

"Normies/noobies are prisoners".... What next? Shall we hunt our own food because that would give us more control over what we eat? How about tailoring our own clothes? Don't get me wrong, I love Linux, and I use it a lot as a terminal, but I would never put it on the laptop of my girlfriend. Cannot even imagine my mom using it.

I am a Linux guy and i understand why people stay with windows for sure. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. No ill will toward any computer user, we are just trying to get our work done after all

So, it's a podcast with terminal instead of any footages...clever!

You have to zoom out a little bit, not everybody's world is just computers. Most people have been using computers just so they can access their mail, browse internet, make a PowerPoint etc. Most people don't give a shit about OS until they absolutely need to. You seem to be going through a phase right now. This is elitist narcissism thinking lowly of others. Being a programmer myself, I don't often see myself tinkering and configuring my Kali THAT often, the bundle it comes with and its defaults are sensible and I don't need to change it further. I don't give a shit about the OS, it gets my job done and that's all.

There's a subsection of the Linux community that refuses to understand that you shouldn't have to learn the command line to use your computer. I use the command line on my PC, for my use case it's very fast and convenient, but there needs to be reliable options that can get things done in the GUI for people that either aren't as tech savvy or don't have the time to put in to use it. Which, like it or not, even in some FOSS-only utopia where IP is abolished or some shit, and all OSes are community maintained, will *always* be the case. One of the greatest things about Linux is the shear number of options you have, so it is really disappointing there isn't an option with a GUI that would warrant most people switching when they get their PC like how they download Chrome or Firefox instead of sticking with Edge. Ubuntu and Mint are nice, and relative to most distros are certainly beginner friendly, but their GUI functions still aren't at the same level as Windows. As behind the times and bulky as Windows GUI is, its _functionality_ easily supersedes the GUIs for the majority of Linux distros and DEs. And whenever I say this, I get *so many* Linux fanboys down my throat claiming I'm trying to take what makes Linux great away from them, seeming not to understand that there can just be a group of distros that can be configured entirely through the GUI, and that they can keep using whatever the fuck they're using now. So many people act like making Linux more appealing requires upending all of the technical and minimalist distros, when all that it requires is that a _different_ distro works to be more accessible by most people. Additionally, I hate the attitude that it's the fault of the 99% of people that don't use Linux that Linux isn't used, as though this adds anything unique or applicable in any way. Even _if_ it's everyone else's fault for being sheep, what does yelling at everyone else for not being good enough accomplish? It's a completely unreasonable expectation, one that ensures that Linux will never become more relevant than it already is. It's the Linux community that needs to be less gatekeepy, to put together a distro that can attract regular-ass people, and take other steps to make Linux popular. Blaming everyone else for not using Linux is, above all else, narcissistic, arrogant, unreasonable, overly idealistic, exclusionary, elitist, and most importantly, childish. In other words, it is point-for-point the exact stereotype of the average Linux user. Perhaps at the beginning I should have said there are two main reasons people aren't switching to Linux, and one of them is that most people seem to think this stereotype is accurate. Unfortunately, all this video really accomplishes for anyone watching outside the Linux community is to reinforce that stereotype. And for video essays like this, how you look to people who _don't_ agree with you, or are from a _different_ community, is really all that matters. Otherwise, you're just preaching to the choir. The reason this upsets me is because I _want_ Linux to succeed, but it's viewpoints like this that keep that from happening. It doesn't have to be this way, this problem is not inherent to Linux. But the obstinance of many in the Linux community, whose daily usage could really only benefit from Linux having more mass appeal, serves to preserve the status quo. *I must add a disclaimer* that I don't think you agree with all of these different community members I mentioned above. I'm simply pointing out that I feel this video condescends towards non-Linux users, which is something I don't think has justification for any video within this community. I know that we don't have to walk on eggshells to have mass appeal in every little bit of content produced about Linux, that oftentimes communities need to be able to talk differently when a discussion is geared primarily towards members of the community, but I don't think the condescension falls in that category. On a side-note, as a CompSci major, I have had the unfortunate experience of meeting multiple stereotypical Linux users, who until learning I used Arch on my main PC, treated me like absolute shit by default, talking in the most demeaning, condescending way I've heard IRL in quite a while. What do you think would have happened if I were a Windows or Mac user currently considering switching, and encountered people like that? I think people like this are the inevitable outcome of a not-insignificant portion of the Linux community otherizing non-Linux users. Insufferable people like this will always exist, sure, but we could do to not reinforce their behavior within this community.

I'm a Windows user. Why don't I change to Linux? Well, have you ever tried to write your name with your other hand? It's uncomfortable if not impossible. Probably you could get used to it, at tremendous effort and time, but you'll never be 100% at it. It's the same for a Windows user. But it's even more than that: We are completely dependent on Windows compatibility. We are not just institutionalized, we are junkies. My job at the office is in a Windows environment. I'd have to use Wine because of it. Most of my games wouldn't run on Linux either. It would be like a minefield, trying to figure out what works and what to change in my life to accommodate a new OS. And if I have to virtualize everything, I might as well just use Windows and save up on processing power.

Let's get this straight. People whose workflows are smoother on windows should use windows. People whose workflows are smoother in mac, should use mac. People whose workflows are smoother in linux, should use linux. That's all there is to it.

Boys and girls: Anime girl studying with lofi beats. Men and women: Gentoo compiling with Mental Outlaw talking

Oh, dear FMM. This video is in many ways a perfect illustration of many things that is wrong with a rather significant portion of Linux community - arrogance, lack of awareness and perspective etc People are googling the best distro not because "they are slaves to the system, man" and "free thinking enough". People have limited opportunities in their life - mainly, limited by time. They don't have the time to try 10 different distros to find out, which is the best one for them, They don't have the time to tinker with 3-5 desktop environments, file managers etc - they'll prefer to go with one provided by the OS by default if it's convenient enough. If you work in IT, software development, PC hardware space and your job provides your with ample time and capabilities to waste your time fine tuning the OS - good on you. For most however - it's not true. They have the opportunities to try out 1, maybe 2 distros - and thus that one better work out of the box with probably minor adjustments for personal convenience or this people will leave Linux and never return.

Man, those agriculture slaves are really institutionalised with their comfort of having food without travelling long distances. Being hunters\gatherers is a choice of free thinking men indeed

When Cortana tells me it's time to eat, I have to buy my food on the Windows Store. Cortana caught me on a contraband OS (Linux) in a VM, so I've been in Solitaire for a month; man, there's only so much Solitaire I can take.

it's just an os, calm down

"Meanwhile, viewers struggle to determine what is exactly the point of this video..."

When people adopting to new software they need to be presented with standard options that can be operated with no learning curve so that they can evaluate its completeness and feel free to mold it to their liking. The systems that drop you to terminal right from the start will never take off. I don’t understand, why not just put a check mark “install common software” and if you’re super user you can just uncheck it

I have been using computers since the introduction of the home computer, Commodore, TI99/4A, etc, then the original IBM PC. I would like to offer a different perspective. My wife has owned a MAC laptop of one configuration or another for two plus decades. Her favorite phrase when complaining about a computer glitch for me to fix is "It should just work!". My wife and the vast majority of computer, tablet, smartphone users have the same perspective. It is like their car, it should just work. Yeah, you can be a gear-head, car enthusiast, custom car builder and complain how stupid people are about not knowing about the inner workings of their cars, but are they really stupid, or do they just expend their energies into other pursuits. I switched to Linux about 6 months ago, and with all the experience and certifications I have I didn't make the switch to Linux until about six months ago. Why, because I simply didn't have the desire to set aside sufficient time to learn everything you need to know about Linux from the ground up. It wasn't until Mint and Pop OS that said, I could make the transition and run my old Windows machine in a VM when needed. Then having a Linux machine as my daily driver I can start to explore and learn more about using the command line to add, remove, update packages. And I in no way know what I am doing yet. In fact it scares me a bit when something goes wrong and I don't know how to fix it off the top of my head. Typically I search on something and find the post that best fits my resolution goal and then I follow those directions if it explains what the commands do. I have a sister and niece who use computers all the time and get real work done. But haven't a clue as out to fix problems that spring up occaisionally. But that's okay, because they have access to IT staff who does. And that staff thinks users are stupid, they're not, they just don't give a crap about command line, RAM vs disk, mechanical drives vs SSD, screen resolutions, etc, etc. Just like they don't give a crap about how the gear ratios of their vehicle's transmission. The just want to get work done, or play a game, or read something on the internet. While I liked listening to your take on things, and appreciate your point of view, I found most of it a negative knock on anyone who isn't like you in their passion for Linux and computers. This argument has been made so many times over the decades. Anyone who doesn't program in machine language, assembly, 3rd gen prog lang, 4th gen prog lang,, structured program vs object, etc, etc, isn't a real programmer! Of course that is nonsense, you pick the tool that makes sense. It is like designing a database to third normal form, yeah you get rid of redundancy in the name of data consistency ,but in the real world you can end up with a system that has horrendous response times or reporting times. So you denormalize. Does that mean you shouldn't strive for 3rd normal form, no it doesn't. But it means ultimately you need to figure out what makes the best system and if that means not being pure to 3rd normal, then that's what it means. Lastly, it is tough to claim to know what happened back in the Civil War when people who are writing/speaking about it have their own agenda. Whether you see this as legit or not here is a link that has a different take. slate.com/human-interest/2019/08/black-confederate-myth-history-book.html I end by saying, I have seen the Windows vs MAC vs LInux arguments since the late 80s early 90s. Bottom line you use the tool that works for the situation. If you choose to ignore any of the options you will likely not choose the best solution for the given task. And for the most part you can get work done on a Linux laptop, but if you work in the business world, or the graphics world you are likely to require either a cloud subscription to one of the MS Office flavors or Adobe's packages, or you will need to run a virtual machine using another OS that supports those apps natively. I am not offering the above argumentatively, I am just offering another perspective based on different experiences. I do believe there is a personality draw for different areas of interest across the board which was your underlying premise. If you go into any IT shop, you will find the same type of people staffing the server area, security group, help desk, etc. Their first and last names differ, but the personality traits that drew them to that job are typically the same. And for the most part, they all think end-users are stupid, and again, they are not. They just don't have a passion for your job, as you don't for theirs.

I have an alternative theory :D Maybe 99% of the people just don't care at all what OS they are using. Its not worth for them to think about it or make a decision, they just want it to work. If i would not care, i would simply choose the default OS (Windows), because it works for most people i see. Like when i am at the train station and want to eat a quick hamburger: I don't care at all, what restaurant it is. I don't compare prices or study the ingredients different restaurants use. I simply go to McDonalds, because it is the default where i see most people going xD Maybe a cook cringes at this like we cringe sometimes at the equivalent situations in the tech space.

i've been using Linux for like two weeks now and it's more like an ongoing lesson in troubleshooting and system management than it is something that "just works", i can understand why some people would go crawling back to Windows when something breaks on Linux.

You know, choice paralysis is a real thing, even for people who like configuring things exactly how they want, mmm maybe more for this kind of people. So I think just picking a distro and trying it first is a good idea for most people. After you tried a linux you have a frame of reference to agonize over which distro is best, if you want to.

At 14 years old I got my first phone, I rooted it withing 2 days. With no prior knowledge to Android, I just googled everything and somehow got there. Customized the hell out of this piece of silicon, basically making it useless for anyone - but me. Friends in school had their phones for 5 years already, but never even thought those things were even possible. And I suppose this is what you view as NOT being a normie. But how could I know about rooting, and all the other stuff? By asking the Google "how to make my android faster" and getting an answer. By getting someone to answer the question for me. Then just mindlessly getting through the instructions. What you view as being a normie, is just not being interested in something. When I was rooting phones, installing Linux and soldering my own fans, my friends were getting their first kisses. They weren't trying to change anything, because everything was already good enough. So they moved forward, while we have been stuck in obsession about a piece of silicon.

Noob customer: I'm done with Windows. I hear it spies on you and stuff. What other OS would you recommend? Sales rep: Well, it depends on what you want to do on your PC. I think you should go with a type of Linux. Noob customer: ? Sales rep: Just think of what computer operations you do the most often and download the appropriate "distro" onto... Noob customer:

There's so much I disagree with in this video, I was not able to take note of it because I was listening to it in the background Five things I have in mind is that 1. When I type "best linux distro" I find that the websites do a pretty good job at comparing them all, and usually they don't choose one for you 2. People not wanting to try new things is something that applies to anything 3. Asking what someone does on their computer is a vague question, since people do a lot of things and they don't know what things are worth mentioning. It's better to try to ask them if they do x thing on their computer and let them answer with a yes or no, be specific 4. Choosing a distro is easy, because people just want something that works. Linux Mint, Elementary, and Ubuntu already do the job for most people (not all). It's not necessary for them to pick a distro based on their usual activity, but it's recommended 5. I don't think this video takes in mind that people can be easily overwhelmed by new things. Trying something new is always a challenge for some Edit: Since I watched this video I had come to deeply dislike this guy because he's always on my recommended now and this is literally the only video I had clicked. I mean, I don't watch tech videos it's not my thing and my first impression was bad so why expect something good from another video? I just want to watch documentaries on orange juice lore maaan

i only use gentoo because /g/ told me to install it

Wow I love linux but this video is extremely pretentious.

While I understand the point you try to make, the statement on institutionalized is a fundementally flawed one. No one is forcing you to use Windows, no one is forcing you to use a mac, and likewise no one is forcing you to use linux. Just because someone doesn't need more customization doesn't mean they are a slave. Common operating system are common because they fit what the users demands, what they voted for with their money. It's a transaction, it is a service, and it is just condecending to view the general public as inferiour and "have a master" just because they doesn't want the same custimizations you would want.

I literally used Ubuntu for years, because most of our contract projects run "well" or "at all" under linux or Mac. The moment WSL2 became somewhat stable and reliable, I switched back to windows and keep linux where I like it - in the terminal... I don't have to waste time with things like: "usb-c docs not initializing, monitors not being recognized, not being able to scale UI for each monitor separately, just a little bit "non-mainstream" peripherals not working, battery management not working properly, screen brightness control bugging out, audio bugging out, CPU not turboing asi intended or efficiently... I don't miss wasting hours troubleshooting every possible niche issue out there. Community drivers / support will never consistently beat the official ones. I want my machine to serve me, not me serve it.

that's it boys, we have officially hit peak pretentious lol

Consumers vs Enthusiasts That's the true difference here.

The linux community is riddled with elitistism and an inferiority complex. They will tell you how easy linux is to use, and that may be true in some cases. For one example out of many to prove this narrative incomplete: If you are using two monitors with different resolutions and different refresh rates with an nvidia gpu you will find many linux installs to be a major pain in the ass. If you use certain audio equipment it might not work on linux without putting in a lot of effort. The thing is, these elitists are not elite, they are just insecure and celebrating the fact that they know something you probably don't know right now. Linux takes a lot more of your time to learn than apple or microsoft based OS. If you have the time to spend learning linux it will teach you more about computing and how everything works. Learning a programming language will also teach you this. It is always important to remain humble though. Just because you spent a lot of time learning how to use linux doesn't make you superior. A lot of the people who use windows and mac OS are probably a lot smarter than you. No matter how smart or strong we think we are, there is always someone smarter and/or stronger. Some people just want to get work done without having to read for hours in forums to get things to work.

"Normies" just want to get the job done and move on NOT spending entire day scratching their heads figuring how to do even the simplest of things. Linux sucks not because its complicated its because it doesn't work very well. Errors that appear in one PC & not the other. Online solutions are either not available or its a good chance it will brick your PC. Troubleshooting is a nightmare. Having to traverse all these hardships alongside mastering linux FOSS alternatives is simply not worth it for many.

"If you're free it's pretty much on you if you become a multi millionaire..." Yeah. If only life was that simple. This point of view has been proven wrong in 1937 (book by Karen horney) and so many more times since then. It's coaching mentality. It brings only cognitive dissonance. Don't spread it. It screams ignorance. I agree with you that people like and defend stuff they know and works for them, and that's why they prefer currently closed OSes. Let's not forget that just few years back you still had situations when you would install Linux and your WiFi card or GPU wasn't supported or of the box, no drivers on OS, no drivers on manufacturer CD. Most people don't do computer stuff. They don't want to. What really helps Linux to grow is transfer of functionality from standalone apps, to web apps.

I don’t think I’m a “slave to the system” if I don’t want to have to troubleshoot every single time one insignificant part of an install process goes awry. Trying to share an Ethernet connection from a Windows machine is a fucking nightmare for a fresh Linux user. Furthermore, don’t forget the amount of time it takes to actually get the operating system (I’m trying to use kubuntu) to work when installing it on a fresh desktop (4 hours) because of your graphics card. Oh, and the fact that like 50% of games flat out don’t work or chug along compared to running them on Windows. It’s great that you have the patience to fix all these issues, but you have to think of those who aren’t tech savvy.

I really hope the next time you need the services of another professional accountant, lawyer, doctor, mechanic they treat you with the same disdain and derision for not having enough interest in their field of study. Acting like an elitist and calling people normie does not bring people into a community. Listening to their needs and working with them does. But I guess I've only been a developer and Linux power user for the past 15 years what do I know.

Honestly, there are a few things that annoy me, when it comes to Linux: 1. The overly dependence on internet Maybe my internet doesn't work now or is unstable or whatever, if I need an application, I have to somehow make the internet work or find a way to get the application on another pc (and all the random dependencies and hope I have all and at the right version sometimes) which is not always as straight forward as it is on windows 2. Compilation Sometimes you need an application, but you have to compile in yourself, ok, no biggie But sometimes the instructions are not clear or missing and maybe I don't have the necessary time to investigate all of it 3. It annoys me when an application you install by apt has the version in the name or, even worse, when it changes the nameing scheme ( e.g. php5 to php-7.0, I think it was something like this) because now I have to search for the new version and name (if you are not going to keep both versions available, why bother putting them in the name) 4. Some drivers are finicky (and I'm not referring to some obscure or exotic components). on windows is more of a battle to stop the updater to install the wrong ones, both annoying, but on windows once installed, you are good to go. 5. The limited variety of apps Things have improved a lot in recent years, but the gap is still there. Some programs don't have a counterpart and some that do, lack features or don't offer a pleasant experience. Oh, and the run it under wine excuse is in most cases not a valid option yet. I want to make the changes, even more, now that win7 in gone (and win10 can be incredibly infuriating) , but some parts of the desktop experience are not quite there yet. When it comes to the server experience, things are shining. The software works great. Windows still has some catching up to do, but, I think, it's getting better. (and I'm not sure if I like that)

Imma be honest, this video entirely perpetuates the stereotype of linux users being up their own ass and childish, which never attracts new people to a product. This video will only drive people away from trying it rather than encouraging them

Common, Linux is so frustrating, some basic stuff are causing time wasting and frustration. Why do i have to do "make install" and "config" from terminal? Why do i have to check on dependencies when i install programs? UI core design was always awful looking, even in Ubuntu 20.20 look at the shutdown and restart confirmation dialog. No support from Adobe, awful looking media players for music. Have been user of Ubuntu 10.04 to 20.20, CentOS 5-7, KaliLinux, ParrotOS, Knoppix, OpenSuse, Manjaro, Backbox. When ever i need answer i couldn't find it easy, there's just bloatware of answers on Stackoverflow for just simple question as "How do i run commands on repeat?" Do you know how much time i wasted just searching for simple "watch -n" command on fucin' stackoverflow?? And people writing whole script as answers. Nowadays i can't find why i can't flash my esp8226... Just community is so frustrating. As student we worked on Centos, and do you know how much time one person wastes just to instal php 7.2 because its old centos, and you need to find dependencies and update repository manually?? I mean why is it necessary to lose so much time for installing one simple program as php 7.2, only two persons in class made it including me. Dnf install is removed from old centos, Synaptic Package Manager was always my best friend in Ubuntu, but Centos dosen't have it. One of the most frustrating things was terminal resizing and aiming edge to resize terminal in some distros...... I mean common. Not so great System Monitor app, NO option in settings to change cursor icon, DEFAULT firefox browser as always, No volume mixer like MacOS also, No equalizer, as i said UI icons on all apps look square and old (only macos made it good looking, don't like font smoothing in macos thats why i dont use macos mostly and dock Space consumption, non closing apps, no normal windows maximizing, no window snap feature.. etc. nvm), if Linux was at least pretty as Macos i would have forgiven it all. I tried 2 days ago ubuntu 20.20, i had crash (settings panel) in 20 sec of using it Ubuntu, it is overly smooth and there is now WPS office alternative which looks good compared to openoffice and Libre.... I mean there's so much missing in Linux that Windows has..

Linux is awesome! I really enjoyed spending 9 hours to get 2 monitors different DPI working. (I didn't). I'll be back and happy to my Mac Jail, unable to make decisions for myself but actually get work done instead spending 20 hours to change one stupid setting. Linux has great potential but I value my time :)

Linux user elitism at its finest.

The appropriate operating system is dependant on how the user uses their computer. For most people windows is adequate because all they do is play games and surf the web. They aren't interested in computers, just a few simple tasks that can be performed on them. People who use linux are interested in computers like car people are interested in cars. They may be exercising their freedom of choice in other ways outside of a computer.

OMG! Do you choose voltage and frequency of electrical outlet in your house? Of course not! You have better things to spend time on. That is how people feel about operating systems.

Mental Outlaw: don't know what to do while compiling? Also Mental Outlaw: lets make a video on why gnu/linux is bad for newbies

Wow you know so much about how other people think, what's happening in their heads is your domain. You already have the answers, no need to ask questions. You're incredible. They are institutionalized, you are free. They are normals, you are unique. Subscribed

ngl, flying compilation text is my aesthetic. 😍

Christ, the amount of elitism in the Linux community really puts me off.

>Entire video shows emerge on gentoo >Linux elitist without touch with reality >Windows / OSX users are slaves of the system Everything checks out

Ya u may be right, but u forgot what technology is for, it's for simplifying the user's tasks. And yes the customer should know or at least have an idea of what they're looking for. About linux, it's kind of a mess. Everyone who tries linux is constantly on their browser searching for the easiest stuff like (how to paste in linux since its not ctrl v (ya why is that if copy is the same) I gave it a try today and it was so disappointing, it lags and doesnt make sense, like why cant i make a new folder sometimes or exchange files in my boot drive. Windows is just easier, more compatible and all on better. Just use windows Sorry but linux wasted my entire day and it wont let me reinstall windows bcz it wont copy my files on thw usb, and cant use rufus. Fk u linux lol

When I first tried Linux and hated it, I was introduced to the term “Baby Duck Syndrome,” referring to one’s distaste for something new because it’s different. I got over that, and that’s why I consider myself OS agnostic. Now I just don’t use Linux because it’s a pain in the ass.

Oh no, it’s not the terminal or the manual work that’s required for Linux. It’s the lack of software available that’s the real turn of for me and others I know. I’d go back to Linux in seconds if there was macro support on mice, keyboards and graphics tablets and fan control for things like fan curves and RGB.

This would be more valid if you understood the time commitment that it takes to actually do the research and make these choices. Imagine you are paying someone to install their operating system and write some documents and make some spreadsheets for you. You want to be able to collaborate with them online on these, but you also want them to be able to hook into and modify your database using the same spreadsheet program. This person gets paid $50 an hour, and are decently technical. Are you going to pay the money for them to simply research what programs are out there on Linux that can do what you want them to? Some can do one others can only do the other. And paying for that time is much more expensive than paying for Windows and Microsoft 365 license. There will be a few customers for whom the risk of having Microsoft Access their data makes it no longer financially worth it, but for the majority of business users it makes the most financial sense. Not to mention, having an outdated UI, like many programs built only for or primarily for Linux, can come at an extreme business risk. This is no more evident than in the recent case where a Citibank accidentally transferred 500 million and isn't getting most of it back. You are only viewing the use of Linux within your own cage, a cage where your time, or the time of those who work for you, isn't literally worth money to you. This is coming from someone who does use both Windows and Linux regularly.

I have an aunt that constantly came to me with windows 10 issues on her laptop, mainly the webcam that got reinstalled as a scanner every time win10 updated. The guy at the computer shop told her to get a new laptop (she has an elitebook i5 3rd gen, still pretty decent) because windows 10 "requires" one to work properly. I told her that's a dumb suggestion, and I installed her Pop OS. She came back with other issues, mainly that Pop OS would randomly hang for no reason, or screw up an automatic update which required me to access the shell and fix it. In the end I installed her Ubuntu, and it's been smooth sailing since. I'd say that Linux is a great thing, but the "freedom" aspect of it is a double edge sword if you don't know how to handle it properly. Still though, even if Ubuntu is not the best example of a "truly" free experience, it's at the very least stable and reliable for most normies, and I'd rather see people running that than being forced to buy a new computer that they don't need

The only reason I struggled with Linux is that going in I assumed that it would do anything as exactly as windows did. Instead of learning how to use Linux I growled in frustration and tried to make Linux act like Windows.

There's one argument that you consistently overlook for people not to use Linux. The Linux community, with you being a good example of it. The demeaning attitude towards non-Linux users is one of the reasons that non-Linux users are demotivated to try Linux out.

As a "normie" i find it absolutely fascinating to listen to your view on how the OS defines the user experience to such a degree. There is a point however that you are missing about the 90% and that is: Windows is just a means to an end. As in, it doesn't really matter what OS it is as long as it works seamlessly with my other devices, updates itself and works out of the box no questions asked. If a game purchase does not work immediately you refund it. This ease of use and mindless usage is exactly what the end user wants in todays world because guess what, most people don't think about computers all the time and that includes people who use them all day. Very few people who are good at Linux use mint and the reason for it is for the most part the same reason you are not using Windows in the first place. So trying to capture the Windows audience by somehow copying it isn't going to work when the fundamentals are missing. Huawei isn't banned in Europe and was the preferred Android device for years until the Google ban. It's still a great device but without google services it's just not as appealing and as a result no one buys them anymore even with better specs and lower price. The same goes with Windows.

I'm a programmer and I hate linux because every time i try to do some programming on the actual project I'm working on, linux blocks me by requiring i do some programming or sysadmin stuff on the linux system itself. I don't want an OS that requires more work from me to use than my actual work requires from me to work.

My problems as a beginner: Learning what certain packages are and what are their purposes. Certain glitches that you need to search the corners of the internet to find a fix. A good amount of programs feel halfass compared to their windows and mac counterparts. You need to know how to read docs to even understand anything, but you're reading because you don't know anything. It's that you kinda need to manage the system but as a beginner it's not possible since you're using a black box. Edit I wouldn't consider myself a beginner anymore

Linux is for the person with free time, above average computer knowledge and a f**kton of patience. You need those 3 things to use Linux, you can't deny that. It's not because of normies or people being institutionalized, it boils down to one simple sentence: "I want something that works when I need it to work". That is what a operating system should provide the average person, Windows does, Linux sadly doesn't. Linux is for someone with free time to experiment around, someone with a above average knowledge of computers and finally, last but not least: Patience, the patience to sit down for sometimes hours trying to install something, fix something or whatever else. I'm in no way anti-Linux, heck I've been daily driving for a while now. Linux isn't for the average person and that it what will always keep it from succeeding. The average person doesn't have time, knowledge or patience to run Linux, a advanced user does. To sum it up: If you want something that works when you need it to work, Windows is for you. If you are a advanced user with enough time, patience and knowledge and want to get away from big tech or if you just want a challenge or just something to experiment around with, Linux. (EDIT: I am in no way anti-Linux, I have a feeling I have to say that to get my point across. I want Linux to dethrone Windows, I want to see Windows being killed with Linux holding the knife and taking the crown of the king of OS's. The community is full of Linux supremacists who when someone gives a valid criticism they scream bloody murder and call them a institutionalized slave normie. Linux is only for the advanced user, it needs to become usable enough for the average user. Thank you for your time reading this. This is just my opinion and experience daily driving Linux, if I didn't have as much free time and patience as I do now I would have un-installed Linux f**king weeks ago I've gotten so frustrated at it. I'm not a extremely advanced user, I just understand the basics to run Linux. Thanks for reading this, just my opinion and experience with Linux and Windows)

I'm a urban planner and the programs I have to use don't run on Mac let alone Linux. I'm sure there are complicated ways to make them run or alternative programs that do similar work that also run on Linux but I can't abandon the common workflows, programs and methods we use because it's like a language we use and if I don't speak the language I can't function efficiently.

I'm a software engineer and I am hardly beholden to what I'm given in any OS. I still can't stand Linux. I'll use it on a server and nothing else. Face it, nothing ever just works on Linux. I don't have enough time in my day to deal with all the driver issues Linux devs haven't put the time and resources in to fix.

Looking through the comments, I don't know which side I should be siding on. I do understand that sometimes it's not as easy as flicking a switch, when switching from Window/Mac to Linux, it takes time to learn it, get a feel for it, and getting an old laptop just to play around with it on your spare time. I know with enough research and tinkering you can get used to the way Linux works. Sometimes depending on the distro it won't take long to get used to Linux. I know I didn't switch to Linux cold turkey, I did some research on Linux beforehand, learned how everything worked, how to use it properly, and some tips and tricks. I was originally supposed to try it after college, but Windows made me so mad one day that I decided to cut things short and try it right away. It didn't take me long to figure everything-out, and I fell in love with it almost right away. Could it be because I wasn't quite a Windows power user? Could it be because I was a quick learner? Could it be because I had all the time in the world to figure-out how Linux worked? I frankly don't quite remember, but I did see that a couple people in the comments had massive issues switching from one to another, both software and hardware wise. I know Linux is a bit jank compared to Windows and Mac (anything and everything graphical will have screen tearing issues because of X, and every time you exit full screen on some apps it will screw-up the resolution, and so on...), and I know that most of it is because that specific piece isn't open source and that's sometimes the biggest problem with Linux; it's almost lottery like if you don't do the research. If it works it's almost magical, but if you get a dud it's off-putting. All it takes is missing a single piece of the puzzle for everything to go awry (WiFi Cards, Graphics Cards, Printer Drivers, ...Fonts I don't know), but once everything is in place or get lucky and find a PC that works it can be a good time. I know nowadays you'll get a lot more hits then misses (Unless you use NVidia), but it's still demoralizing to get misses. I understand that not everyone is as quick to learn new things as I am, and it's also hard to imagine myself in these people's shoes because of that. For me I like the power of Linux, but if Windows/Mac is what works best for you then so be it; whatever works works. I use a 10 year old hand-me-down BlackBerry as my daily driver because I don't need fancy modern phone features, all I need in a phone is a way to call, text, write notes, and a keyboard to type with ease. I've turned-down many offers from my mother to buy a new iPhone or Android for me because the old BlackBerry already satisfied me enough. And just like Windows or Mac power users, if the thing is giving you exactly what you need without hassle, then there's no real point to change. For as much as I love Linux, I begrudgingly understand why some people won't switch to it.

Question: You are given the task of installing a Linux based OS onto computers for an elementary school lab that will be used by first grade children with near zero experience in computers. What OS & software would you install for a child's first experience with a computer? Children by their innate nature require a master/teacher for a while before they outgrow the need for one and become self governing. So picking a master is kind of a requirement of this scenario.

Yeesh, the sheer amount of arrogance in this video is incredible. You wanna know why people use Mac or Windows? Because those Operating Systems actually work most of the time. It's funny to me how software glitches in Windows are seen as evidence that Windows is horrible and should not be used, but when software problems in Linux (which are numerous) occur its always "you're a normie because you actually wanted something that just worked. How dare you expect the thing you're using to do the things we claimed it would".

I just come to your channel to see some elementary and solus reviews, and found pure gold. Greetings from Chile.

Allow me to give you a brief recollection of all the times I stopped using Linux. 2005: Ubuntu didn't come with wifi drivers and all I had at that time was free wifi. Ndiswrapper didn't support my wifi adapter so I was screwed. 2009/10: nVidia drivers had a fatal error, causing Ubuntu to not even allow me to log in at the command line. I could have possibly fixed this with a reinstall, but I was fed up. 2013: Installed Gentoo unironically. It worked pretty well, but the laptop I had at the time wasn't capable of running games that well regardless of OS so I quickly replaced it. The other day: Decided to try Linux Mint on a whim since I had a video playback issue in Windows I couldn't figure out. Only problem is that it seems Linux doesn't like my laptop's CPU (AMD FX-9830P) as it didn't even install a driver to allow for frequency and scheduler changes. Also, I would randomly get kernel level CPU hangups for 20+ seconds. Went back to Windows and a fresh install solved the problem I had before. Point being: there are legitimate use cases for Linux, but there are also legitimate use cases for Windows. Sometimes, like the scenarios I listed above, your hand is forced one way or another. Other times, you're forced into it due to work, school, etc. Which brings me to another point: going after home users is, was, and always will be a failing strategy. Windows gained dominance in the enterprise sector well before it became the defacto standard for home computers, while Linux has, to my knowledge, never made an honest attempt at that. Most servers in the world may run Linux, but those are probably being handled by the type of people who already use Linux. The majority of end users use Windows both at work and at home, because the former necessitates the latter in many cases. Now that most people are foregoing desktop computers altogether, the window of opportunity for Linux to gain ground is smaller than it has ever been. Ironically, it would take a company like Valve to get a good portion of people on board with making the switch long term. Lastly, security is basically a farce regardless of OS. Both the CPU exploits and hypervisors that have come to light within the past few years basically negate any security advantages Linux may have had over Windows. I'll put my Windows 10 system with an AMD FX CPU, Shutup10 and anti-virus up against any Linux system that uses a comped CPU architecture. I do still support open source software, and in fact use many open source programs regularly, but I think the community has always been misguided at best with regards to getting people on board with their cause. Videos like this appeal to the cheap seats in the crowd more than anything, and really give the impression that the community is just as much, if not more of a lost cause than ever.

If the black people figthing for the confederacy were slaves then they didn't have a choice in whether they fight though? Am I missing something here? It sounds like saying "prisoners are stuck in prison because they like it, they would leave otherwise".

Thank you for specifying 100 times that it's GNU/Linux. Because no one would understand the topic if you just said Linux. It's really important to assert dominance on them "normies". Show 'em how Linux community is the best at welcoming new users.

The video went from explaining the appropriateness Linux to teaching us about history and human values of free will, Yes, this is deep

Windows user here :D For me it boils down to four things: 1.Linux still doesn't have all the specialized programs and games, you know, Linux gaming is a mess 2.Diversity of distros is both positive and hugely negative for Linux. I mean, every distro has it's own differences, its own design and feel. To be viable, Linux has to give users the more standardized experience. 3.Most distros still hugely rely on terminal for tons of actions, which is a big advantage for many, but for me it's just irritating and inconvenient, I tried to use it to perform given tasks, but still, if you're not into remembering and typing commands (which you totally aren't if you're not an enthusiast and/or professional), you won't benefit from it, it would be another negative point. Windows is better at this as you can do absolute most things without ever touching the terminal in your entire life. It's called user-friendly design, guys, follow it. 4.Speaking of different users, I'm not the only one using my PC, so it would require to teach others how to work with Linux, which really isn't always that easy. Alternatively, I could hook up dual boot, but I'll need to explain it to less technical users of my PC, as normies expect for a PC to just turn on and run Windows straight away

I feel like this was written by a script generation bot that tries to emulate AI without implementing it. What the fuck did you say, throughout any of this? >Literal rambling >comparing OS choices to slavery >BestBuy sales tips

It blows me away that Geek Squad customers would be asking questions about Linux.

Curb your elitism. I find it ironic to mix 'free' software and GNU together.

That analogy escalated very quickly 😂 Spot on, though.

I've tried watching this video 3 times now over the course of 2021 and every time I reach a point where I stop because the smug elitism dripping from every other sentence passes the "asshole detection threshold" around the 3:00 mark. Linux has a GUI problem, because the way you elitists use it, you might as well have your computer locked in a server farm in Tunisia accessed exclusively via a teletext terminal, because lord praise the holy command line. Nobody but the mentally handicapped wants to even look at the command line unless it's absolutely necessary, we even have completely FOSS GUI libraries natively built and universally compatable with all of Linuxdom, just to provide GUI options to otherwise CLI exclusive software while still staying as unobtrusive as possible. Yet it's treated like sunlight by you elitist vampires, because how dare you make Linux usable without the holy CLI bible spread across your unbelieving thighs at all times. It's the computer equivalent of the religious clergy of the 8th century, holding humanity in "Microsoft (and Apple) Slavery" for the sake of the """purity""" of your backwards religion of the holy command line and it's scripture. The same obsession that even Linus Torvalds himself holds in open contempt as the anchor around Linux's neck keeping it stuck in the styles of the 70s. It's so bad that even he uses a stock Macbook as his daily driver since Ubuntu and Fedora both fell into the habits of the religion of CLI.

As I've said many many times, Linux OS (or GNU) is really only recommended for people who are intermediate to advanced programmers/software developers and/or people running servers. Linux is just not user friendly compared to either Windows or MacOS, and there's a lot of technical stuff you have to do on Linux manually (especially on the terminal) to make Linux the way you want it to. The average user is not technical, they just want something that works out of the box and something they can interact with (the terminal just freaks the average user out). The most user friendly Linux distro that people who are especially more familiar with Windows and Mac can use is Ubuntu. The problem is Ubuntu is not pre-installed on any hardware and you have to do that manually, which the average user can't, and even then, there isn't that much good software in Ubuntu like there is with Windows and Mac that people can get accustomed to.

I pay attention to the screen the whole time. You can't disable other languages compatibility (ex: 0:34 russian.h, swedish.h, etc)in the compilation of a program?

I really feel being alled out mainly because, as someone who grew up and always used windows, I have no idea from where should I begin to study Linux or any other free OS exactly because there's so many of them that, at this point, I just feel overwhelmed. Can I get at least one hint as the where should I look for the first steps on this?

If I want to download and run mods off of random websites for my obscure games, can I do that on Linux?

Geez. This kind of elitist behavior is why I stay away from Linux. You try to pull a theory where it simply doesnt exist. Ive been using Windows throughout 14 years, and learnt its ins and out. When something breaks, I know how to fix it, and when I dont, I am 100 percent sure to find help online. I used Linux quite a few times when trying to switch. And then bam, something breaks. Finding resolutions for Linux is near-impossible, and when you try to ask someone in, lets say, Linux Discord, youll be passively aggressively told off or just "Lol install this distro I use instead". Comparing Windows users to prisoners is so ironical. When I use Windows, I can find a tool for what I need to do, I can actually make a choice of which tool suits me best instead of having to deal with broken, antiquated open source workarounds. I dont have to lock myself out of certain things (such as gaming). Really, the "freedom" you Linux folk so greatly proclaim is only.partial. yes, you can tinker your OS as much as you want, you can change whatever you want in it, but people with actual fucking lives need computers to get work done. Ill much rather do my stuff on Windows without hassle and then go work out or meet my friends rather than compiling a fucking program. Seriously, who are the real prisoners here???

A perfect analogy for you is when you enter a new field... you'll wonder why whoever you're asking doesn't know that you're new to the field. The expert should know what the new person needs to know. Not ask them questions that they would only know if they weren't.

as a windows user, ive tried linux. Nothing worked properly. With technology people want things to work and not wasting their time

I got Lubuntu and neon plasma, in both i couldn't turn auto login on wake. Is this good enough of a reason?

bro please tell me this is satire there's no way someone just compared Windows users to slaves fighting for the confederacy

bruh why are you being so edgy about it lmao

I discovered you *and then* found Luke Smith from people comparing you to him.

What's with that sound in background? Multiple HDDs? Or a very intensive CPU cooling? :)

comparing using a proprietary operating system to literally being imprisoned is so brainless its downright delusional.

Brp i just don¡t use it because i always have either an audio bug or a screen size bug or something else it always caused me problems

as a non gnu + linux user, my guess is that once someone gets the hang of the linux way for task management and software installations then he's prepared to take on the world of linux.. depending on the language ofc c++ for example

What is that white Bar on the bottom? I have seen this in many of your videos.

Just found this video and it's pure gold. Much love and subbed

Linux is fine until you have to use any specific software, be it CAD or graphic design software, publishing or video editing or even gaming... ie. anything that isnt web development or web browsing. Green and open source software, no matter how useable is no match to the fact that other people use software and often need files in a specific format. Pretty much everything exists of windows and pretty much everyone uses it. It's the software that matters not the platform.

Racecar Johnny and I both find this video insightful and interesting. Well...at least I do.

as a new subscriber/viewer i wasn't aware of what distro you used... and the moment i saw it being a compiler video my first thought was gentoo, then at the end of one of the compiles it said gentoo for a noob i somewhat feel good about recognising this small thing.

I like the idea of Gentoo, but I have trouble using it thanks to the sheer manual nature of even installing the OS. I know exactly what I want to do with it, I know the size of the partition I want to make, I know which profile I want to set, which desktop environment or window manager I would like to use, it just takes so much manual effort that could be simplified with a basic chain of installation menus, or a script that goes over everything automatically and prompts you if there's an option you can change, that I find it difficult to love at the end of the day, and would rather just boot a KUbuntu LiveUSB and click througb the graphical installer, and if I wanted to customize it I would just figure things out in the postinstall.

Currently studying computer engineering, and Linux is an awesome OS at various points of view, but MY GOD does it demand time to learn something new each step you take. Every error is an awful amount of time having to tinker with the system and the .1% of applications that do support your distro and I simply cannot waste time on this when I want to actually use something. Tried to use it for 6 months and just gave up. Maybe when I have less stuff to do I can learn each comma from each documentation of each program/API. And one tip. This "normie" thing is really annoying and I bet it keeps away many people from outside this community. Really really annoying using it non ironically.