Lockheed’s attack helicopter that almost changed Vietnam - AH-56 Cheyenne

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@joshuabessire9169
@joshuabessire9169 14 күн бұрын
Bell:"We're making America's first jet fighter." Lockheed:"We're making America's first good jet fighter." Bell: We're making America's first attack helicopter." Lockheed:"We're making America's first good attack helicopter." Bell:" ....Listen here you little shit!"
@stefankohler3060
@stefankohler3060 14 күн бұрын
Lockheed build the F-104, Widowmaker in Germany, we lost 300 Planes and 116 Pilots. Now they build the F-35. 641 Errors per Plane and we buy it again.
@aviatorfushigi9718
@aviatorfushigi9718 14 күн бұрын
@@stefankohler3060 The F-104 crashed often in Germany because the pilots were not used to supersonic aircraft with high stall speeds. The F-35 has proven to be the most affordable, effective, and popular stealth aircraft that every single nation flocks to buy
@nikolaideianov5092
@nikolaideianov5092 14 күн бұрын
​@@aviatorfushigi9718and for the price its cheaper then the f15 was when it came out
@Some_Dingus
@Some_Dingus 14 күн бұрын
@@stefankohler3060 Makes you wonder who are members of the same country club
@kingjames4886
@kingjames4886 14 күн бұрын
bell: fine, we'll move to canada and recoup our losses by over-charging for sub-standard utilities
@jgr7487
@jgr7487 14 күн бұрын
Bell was building a current generation attack chopper, while Lockheed was already working on the future of attack helicopter. They could have coexisted.
@felixknorpp2803
@felixknorpp2803 14 күн бұрын
there is no coexisting in capitalism
@Some_Dingus
@Some_Dingus 14 күн бұрын
The expiration date to that coexistence wouldn't have been very far off.
@williamzk9083
@williamzk9083 10 күн бұрын
One thing that the Russian war on Ukraine has shown is that Attack Helicopters need more range when a peer opponent is involved. Russian helicopter airfields were destroyed by ATACMS forcing use of the longer range Ka-52 in airfields far from the front line. Also in the Pacific the AH-64 is too short ranged. The 1970s Cheyenne could have done the job.
@philsalvatore3902
@philsalvatore3902 5 күн бұрын
@@Some_Dingus I don't know about that. The AH-64 Apache has been around since the early 1980s and the Marines still fly Cobras and was buying new ones until very recently. The Army and Marines use attack helicopters very differently.
@Some_Dingus
@Some_Dingus 5 күн бұрын
@@philsalvatore3902 I just can't see two companies like that actually cooperating, knowing that defense contractors don't simply compete but will actively screw each other over where they can to get ahead. A "friend" in that industry would be even less trustworthy than a competitor.
@forgetittube5882
@forgetittube5882 14 күн бұрын
McNamara, his impact, cancelling programs he wasn’t invested in, is legendary
@Ballsack_Menace
@Ballsack_Menace 14 күн бұрын
McNamara, if it wasn’t a ww2 equivalent design, then he was gonna cancel it.
@jacqueschouette7474
@jacqueschouette7474 14 күн бұрын
We are still paying for McNamara's stupidity.
@johnhiggs325
@johnhiggs325 14 күн бұрын
@@jacqueschouette7474 His corruption
@Einwetok
@Einwetok 14 күн бұрын
Ladybird's worth a mention too. Bell kept getting contracts because of her stock in the company.
@jacqueschouette7474
@jacqueschouette7474 14 күн бұрын
@@Einwetok Oh you mean a politician profiting from his or her office? Say it isn't so.
@troublecluster
@troublecluster 14 күн бұрын
The moment I saw that rotating gunnery chair my mind immediately went to "Greetings, Starfighter..."
@axehammer3850
@axehammer3850 14 күн бұрын
DEATH BLOSSOM! 😊
@ImpendingJoker
@ImpendingJoker 13 күн бұрын
I see you are a man of culture.
@sidefx996
@sidefx996 13 күн бұрын
You have been recruited by the Star League to defend The Frontier against Xur and the Kodan Armada
@hateforall4012
@hateforall4012 9 күн бұрын
Fantastic movie!!
@brothergrimaldus3836
@brothergrimaldus3836 8 күн бұрын
You too?
@chheinrich8486
@chheinrich8486 14 күн бұрын
Behold, the reason Lockheed never built another helicopter 😂 Edit: I didn’t know Lockheed acquired Sikorsky
@paulsteaven
@paulsteaven 14 күн бұрын
They still are, if we consider their acquisition of Sikorsky.
@chheinrich8486
@chheinrich8486 14 күн бұрын
@@paulsteaven oh I didn’t know that
@paulsteaven
@paulsteaven 14 күн бұрын
@@chheinrich8486 yeah, not that well known as there's no major rebranding like when Boeing acquired MD.
@kazefw3834
@kazefw3834 13 күн бұрын
​@@paulsteaventhanks, didn't knew that happen at all
@ImpendingJoker
@ImpendingJoker 13 күн бұрын
@@kazefw3834 Happened about 10 years ago now.
@Tutisclutis
@Tutisclutis 14 күн бұрын
Seeing how much the Cobra have changed from it's original design, makes me wonder how the Cheyenne would look today.
@pegcity4eva
@pegcity4eva 14 күн бұрын
Like an Apache
@williamzk9083
@williamzk9083 10 күн бұрын
@@pegcity4eva The Cheyenne is faster and much much longer ranged than the AH-64 (about 3 times) . One think the Russian war on Ukraine has taught us is that longer range is needed for attack Helicopters. ATACMS was able to destroy multiple helicopter bases leaving the Russians only able to use the Ka-52 and aircraft with limited ability to fire behined cover.
@pancudowny
@pancudowny 10 күн бұрын
Think of the Cobra as the Ford Mustang to the Huey's Ford Falcon: It lives on, but is so-much different from what it started from or as.
@philsalvatore3902
@philsalvatore3902 5 күн бұрын
@@williamzk9083 As air defenses improved the Cheyenne's speed became moot. US Army Cold War helicopter tactics were to fly no higher than 50 feet above ground level. They used trees, foliage and terrain to hide behind so enemy air defenses would not detect them. They used scout helicopters and ground mounted sensors on cherry pickers to find and illuminate enemy formations so the attack helicopters could attack from difilade ( behind trees or terrain) and thus not expose their presence to the enemy before attacking. Airspeeds were low, 50-60 knots max as the scouts led the gunships through the forest. The Russians use their gunship helos more like close air support airplanes and suffer high losses as a result. They are also ineffective. The Cheyenne would have been equally ineffective.
@Mariner311
@Mariner311 14 күн бұрын
I built a Cheyenne model as a youngin' back in 1972 - was crushed to learn the project was cancelled. Amusing that in 1986 I became a Naval Aircrewman - and later did the Maverick missile tests for the Seahawk helicopter.
@blacktophemirt8526
@blacktophemirt8526 13 күн бұрын
same but it was a commanche
@user-rp2nq1ev6x
@user-rp2nq1ev6x 14 күн бұрын
It was the US Air Force that primarily put a stop to the Cheyenne attack helicopter. The Air Force wanted the skies all to themselves.
@biddinge8898
@biddinge8898 14 күн бұрын
A big part about the cheyenne, was not only the push prop and actual functioning wings, but the special stsbilized rotor blade system. It didnt use a traditional swash plate, it used a system similar to what toy helicopters actually use, with a stabilizing bar on top for a inherently stabilized system gyroscopically.
@ImpendingJoker
@ImpendingJoker 13 күн бұрын
This was not new at all. Bell pioneered this with the Bell 47, and it was also on the Bell UH-1. Bell upped Lockheed by completely eliminating the need for a stab-bar by introducing electrical stability system. So that huge merry-go-round clothes hangar on the AH-56 was also outdated, and Blom Und Voss built the first fully rigid rotor production helicopter with the Bo-105. No, that Cheyenne as cool as it was very out dated by the time it was in the prototype phase, and by the time it would have entered LRIP it would have been a dinosaur.
@nullterm
@nullterm 14 күн бұрын
Minor correction: AH-64 was started by Hughes. Which was bought by McDonnell Douglas 1984. Which was bought by Boeing 1997.
@jandraelune1
@jandraelune1 14 күн бұрын
The AH-64 upgrade that is coming actually brings most of the AH-56 designs to it, minus the belly turret. The reasons for the AH-56 cancellation are superfluous at best.
@Faelen_furry
@Faelen_furry 13 күн бұрын
Don't you love when someone change the requirements without giving notive to the other but by some dark way, the opponent knew what would change
@user-qg1mw5tz1q
@user-qg1mw5tz1q 14 күн бұрын
this helicopter is awsome! sad thath it got cancelled. one of my favorite helicopter.
@Einwetok
@Einwetok 14 күн бұрын
There's one on display at Ft. Campbell
@BarryHWhite
@BarryHWhite 14 күн бұрын
Lockheed didn't need to build helo's anymore, as with the Griada treaty Skunk works got anti-gravitic technology in 1954.
@amramjose
@amramjose 13 күн бұрын
I saw this copter, not knowing what it was, at Ft Rucker in 2005; impressive, rigid main rotor and pusher prop. By the time it was debuged, I understand it had state of the art avionics and control systems, as well as devastating firepower. Very cool.
@biddinge8898
@biddinge8898 14 күн бұрын
Ive seen concepts for a boeing ah64 upgrade package that would turn it into a cheyenne more or less. With bigger wings, and a pusher propeller.
@neilwarren875
@neilwarren875 11 күн бұрын
Nobody seems to have mentioned one of the best reasons for going with the AH-1. It has about 40% parts interchangeability with the UH-1. Really streamlines logistics.
@raymondyee2008
@raymondyee2008 3 күн бұрын
Correct. Compare with the AH-56 where in hells teeth are they getting spare parts in Nam?
@rileybriggs4731
@rileybriggs4731 7 күн бұрын
Having 130 successful missile tests and then your first display test failing is like something out of a movie. I like to imagine a bell employee snuck in and cut a wire.
@ArchusKanzaki
@ArchusKanzaki 11 күн бұрын
Lesson learned time-to-time. "There is nothing more permanent, than a temporary solution".
@jacksonfleischer9716
@jacksonfleischer9716 3 күн бұрын
Laughs in A-10
@pancudowny
@pancudowny 10 күн бұрын
McNamara probably saw the Huey Cobra as his Ford Falcon being turned in the Mustang, all-over again...!😄
@sebastianthehotsaucedude5473
@sebastianthehotsaucedude5473 14 күн бұрын
I love watching the release live!
@FoundAndExplained
@FoundAndExplained 14 күн бұрын
thanks for watching!
@user-en9zo2ol4z
@user-en9zo2ol4z 13 күн бұрын
The idea that any single weapon system could win the Vietnam War, is to misunderstand the conflict completely.
@ibubezi7685
@ibubezi7685 6 күн бұрын
The brass and DC would have f'd it up anyway - they never wanted to win (apart from the fact they didn't even know what 'winning' entailed).
@basilmiller8307
@basilmiller8307 14 күн бұрын
Saw one at Ft. Rucker museum in ft Rucker, Alabama
@michaelwhitefgguocv4713
@michaelwhitefgguocv4713 14 күн бұрын
I love your enthusiasm, it encourages my own fascination and wonder.
@timbrake3404
@timbrake3404 14 күн бұрын
I've always wondered why the canopie was so large. It has to be 3 feet higher than the gunners head! I bet he could have stood up and not needed to open it.
@CraigLandsberg-lk1ep
@CraigLandsberg-lk1ep 13 күн бұрын
That's what I thought, would have made it a little lighter and cut down the crosssection a bit😅
@timbrake3404
@timbrake3404 12 күн бұрын
@@CraigLandsberg-lk1ep I can usually figure out design features on aircraft but I never understood that one. I would to find out why.
@AircraftEnthusiast_7900
@AircraftEnthusiast_7900 14 күн бұрын
Thank you,gratefully, for covering this wonderful helicopter.
@Saffi____
@Saffi____ 14 күн бұрын
One of my personal favorite helicopters (mostly by design) is the Yak-60. Looks like a Chinook, just bigger, though I think the Mil V-12 has it beat in weight.
@jimcabezola3051
@jimcabezola3051 14 күн бұрын
Built the Aurora model kit of this back in the early '70s. Soon after building it...I found the Cheyenne project was canceled. (Cue sad trombone...)
@Planes_Are_Epik
@Planes_Are_Epik 14 күн бұрын
This premiere was awesome! You earned ur self a sub 👍
@FoundAndExplained
@FoundAndExplained 14 күн бұрын
Legend!
@naturalfreq
@naturalfreq 13 күн бұрын
When I was a undergraduate in mechanical engineering, my professor in my mechanical vibrations class (1979) said this helicopter had vibration problems that could not be corrected. Thus it was cancelled.
@fitzachella
@fitzachella 8 күн бұрын
"First attack helicopter" The AH-1 litrally flying the same year
@blurglide
@blurglide 14 күн бұрын
This thing was always 50 years ahead of its time. The Army dropped the ball by cancelling it.
@notoriousbigmoai1125
@notoriousbigmoai1125 14 күн бұрын
Can you make a video about the new biggest plane in the world concept built to carry wind turbine blade, the Radia WindRunner?
@aaronsanborn4291
@aaronsanborn4291 9 күн бұрын
One is on display at Ft Polk, Louisiana...I was stationed there from 97-02
@nofearnelson58
@nofearnelson58 14 күн бұрын
You didn't do your due diligence when researching this chopper. The US Air Force exerted a lot of influence to the powers that be to cancel this program since it would take away funds from their Close Air Support program. They argued that since it had functioning wings, the US Army should not be allowed to operate it since fixed wing aircraft are the Air Forces' domain. It's petty and silly but that's how the Air Force operated during the 60's and 70's. Also, it was Hughes Helicopters who produced and won the contract for the original AH-64 Apache until they were acquired by McDonnell Douglas in the early 80's and then MD merged with Boeing in the late 90's.
@gort8203
@gort8203 14 күн бұрын
You're right, that USAF was against the Cheyenne, but it was not silly. The helicopter was planned to have performance close to a fixed wing aircraft and would encroach on the roles of fixed wing aircraft. At the same time the Air Force was developing the A-10 to support the Army in those roles. The proper use of aircraft on the battlefield can be argued about all day, and was a conflict within the Army long before the Air Force became a separate service. In this case the Cheyenne was going take food out of the USAF rice bowl, and the rice supply was limited by Congress.
@marioacevedo5077
@marioacevedo5077 14 күн бұрын
This is true. I flew Cobras in the US Army and had the opportunity to chat with old-timers who had flown the Cheyenne as test pilots. They said the Cheyenne was a beast to fly. The A-10 turned out to be a great choice and in the Army we loved having them show up over the battlefield.
@Shaun_Jones
@Shaun_Jones 14 күн бұрын
⁠@@marioacevedo5077 does the A10 do anything that the Cheyenne couldn’t? I don’t think so, and I bet the AH56 had a lot more upgrade potential than the Warthog.
@seththomas3418
@seththomas3418 14 күн бұрын
@@Shaun_Jones A10 has greater speed, range, and payload. So yes the A10 could do a lot more than the AH-56.
@JollyGreenFE
@JollyGreenFE 14 күн бұрын
@@Shaun_Jones Survive in Congress or Combat? The A-10s combat record stands alone. And just as with any Helicopter, its Achilles' heel will always be its Tail Rotor.
@johnnyt1305
@johnnyt1305 14 күн бұрын
🤔 The AH 56 Cheyenne reminds me a bit of the A-10 Thunderbolt II 🤔
@shawnkelley9035
@shawnkelley9035 13 күн бұрын
Just sad that it was cancelled.
@chandrachurniyogi8394
@chandrachurniyogi8394 13 күн бұрын
the Bell UH-1D Huey multi mission helo gunship could have done with a twin-engined arrangement . . . for e.g. the 1,623 shp (1,283 kW) General Electric T700-GE-401 turboshaft engines . . . and a 4-blade main rotor instead of the typical 2-blade type . . . the ship borne Bell UH-1Y Venom maritime multi mission helo gunship is a heavily upgraded variant of the good old UH-1D & UH-1H . . .
@Navy_Army305
@Navy_Army305 14 күн бұрын
The rotating CPG station would get you super sick lol
@ImpendingJoker
@ImpendingJoker 13 күн бұрын
Actually no, as your inner ear is what controls your balance and equilibrium. The Cobra and Apache are worse for motion sickness because your eyes are looking left or right but your inner ear is still looking straight ahead so when the pilot turns your brain gets conflicting input, and up comes your lunch. 🤮
@philsalvatore3902
@philsalvatore3902 5 күн бұрын
I grew up in the San Fernando Valley not all that far from the original Lockheed Skunk Works in Burbank. Back in the 1960s the sound track of the San Fernando Valley was sonic booms from jets screaming overhead and the roar of Clay Lacy's purple P-51 "Miss Omni" pylon racer making hot laps of the Valley from its home at Van Nuys Airport. Oh, and the sound of prototypes of the Cheyenne. One of them would fly over our elementary school right at recess time every day like clockwork, and I always noticed. One day I will never forget it pulled a loop right over our school. Even as a 4th grader I "knew" helicopters weren't supposed to pull loops but there it was right before my eyes. One nice clean loop on the way north probably to some test range out by Edwards Air Force Base. What a thrill for a little kid who would as an adult go on to fly helicopters, though nothing that hot.
@user-en9zo2ol4z
@user-en9zo2ol4z 13 күн бұрын
The development of turboshaft engines was what took helicopters to the next level. The earlier use of piston powered craft was their limiting factor originally.
@mrbigberd
@mrbigberd 9 күн бұрын
You forgot to mention that the Air Force was exerting HUGE pressure that this was THEIR domain under the Key West Agreement. The Army was effectively barred from creating a fast helicopter again which is one reason the Apache is so slow.
@tmcd4657
@tmcd4657 9 күн бұрын
Seen one of these things on static display at Ft Rucker. Cool as hell, too bad they couldn't have been put into production
@DatChernobylGuy_
@DatChernobylGuy_ 14 күн бұрын
Amazing video!
@samuelstanton8944
@samuelstanton8944 14 күн бұрын
Can you make a video about the secret weapons of the Luftwaffe. Like the Fritz X , Hs 293, X4, V1, and V2, etc...
@baraka629
@baraka629 14 күн бұрын
V1 and V2 weren't exactly "secret" the moment they rained down on Britain by the thousands 😂
@samuelstanton8944
@samuelstanton8944 13 күн бұрын
Still secret technology for the Germans.
@Hoverfiles
@Hoverfiles 14 күн бұрын
Great mini documentary 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@notebookytismos
@notebookytismos 14 күн бұрын
Swear first time I saw this helicopter it looked hella cool
@koiyujo1543
@koiyujo1543 8 күн бұрын
how badass this was... to have a rotating gunner seat for an attack helicopter
@TheKulu42
@TheKulu42 14 күн бұрын
I can understand the Army needing a combat helicopter right away thanks to the Vietnam war, but I agree that the Cheyenne should have gone to production and started on the upgrade cycle. It seems more viable as an anti-tank helicopter for Europe; especially if the Soviets felt a yearning to come west.
@theredheadrenegade2243
@theredheadrenegade2243 12 күн бұрын
Does anyone notice the nose and canopy is nearly spot on with an OV-10 Bronco?
@rvh1702
@rvh1702 4 күн бұрын
Good point 👌
@kingkea3451
@kingkea3451 14 күн бұрын
Have you got more information on the attack plane based on the Ah-56?
@NN1Ckl.
@NN1Ckl. 14 күн бұрын
It looks a lot like that dragonfly aircraft
@rogersmith8480
@rogersmith8480 9 күн бұрын
WHAT I THINK IS THAT THIS HELICOPTER SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT, BUT POLITICS AS USUAL, GOT IN THE WAY.
@ognjenivanovic7871
@ognjenivanovic7871 14 күн бұрын
Bell: I ain't taking this humiliation! *makes a helicopter that would be quicker to make* . Lockheed: *surprised pikachu*
@user-jh6ik1qd7p
@user-jh6ik1qd7p 12 күн бұрын
please do the 1910 coanda, its the first "jet" biplane that was created before ww1. Would be interesting to do a what if it was successful and managed to be developed during the war.
@Besir355
@Besir355 13 күн бұрын
Obsessed with landing everywhere
@StefOne-nw9un
@StefOne-nw9un 14 күн бұрын
hey, i love your videos for years now! there is one plane i'd like you to look into: the MBB Lampyridae, germany's stealth fighter from the 80's that wasn't to be... would love to see it coming to life with your great renders ;-)
@FoundAndExplained
@FoundAndExplained 14 күн бұрын
I added it to the list
@StefOne-nw9un
@StefOne-nw9un 14 күн бұрын
thank u ^^ looking forward to it
@PatrickCallahan-wg2sh
@PatrickCallahan-wg2sh 2 күн бұрын
I saw one of these AH=56 helicopters in the local on post museum at what used to be called Ft Polk, LA, back in the mid 80's. I was serving in the US Army as an LT and recognized it what it was. May have been an example being tested at this post when the program was cancelled in 1972.. Perhaps its still there slowly turning to dust.
@Archie2c
@Archie2c 12 күн бұрын
Beautiful Graphics
@magdovus
@magdovus 7 күн бұрын
I think you missed the real problem. The Cheyenne was designed to attack from relatively high altitude in a fast steep dive, then pulling up to high altitude. This would have been safe in Vietnam as the main threat to helicopters was AA guns, which couldn't easily hit at the altitudes they'd have cruised at. Then, the Soviets brought out the SA-7 which would have decimated helicopters at altitude. The only way to avoid the SA-7 would have been going even higher (not feasible for helicopters) or lower, which would have made the high speed less useful as a defence. The Cobra was actually introduced into combat while the Cheyenne was in test.
@raymondyee2008
@raymondyee2008 6 күн бұрын
Ah finally somebody brought that up.
@philsalvatore3902
@philsalvatore3902 5 күн бұрын
Exactly right. And Army SOP during the Cold War was to stay below 50 AGL where early Soviet MANPADS could not acquire you and the radars on their longer range missiles systems could not track you.
@abhinavs7008
@abhinavs7008 14 күн бұрын
Can you do a video on Indian military equipments like LCH Prachand or INS Vikranth
@davidmoore1102
@davidmoore1102 14 күн бұрын
The Blackburn Beverly needs some found and explained love
@Dingofighter78
@Dingofighter78 8 күн бұрын
I feel like the program was sort of revived in the sense that it's idea was, ish, i think the V-22 Osprey can revive the idea if they made an attack helicopter variant
@jessietoney8919
@jessietoney8919 14 күн бұрын
Our government always does this for example the F-16 XL and the XF-23... Even now they have the Abrams-X in testing but I bet it never goes into production.
@Rose.Of.Hizaki
@Rose.Of.Hizaki 14 күн бұрын
YF-23? Its not what you think. it has been rumored that the design has been passed on to Japan.
@mikkodoria4778
@mikkodoria4778 14 күн бұрын
Even the modern rifles like the xm8, or the newest rifle in testing, wasting money to prove m4 is still better rifle?
@evo3s75
@evo3s75 14 күн бұрын
The Abrams X is a tech demonstrator, it's GD's own venture and not a prototype for some Government project
@jessietoney8919
@jessietoney8919 14 күн бұрын
@evo3s75 But yet the Army did acknowledge that they are currently looking at it for testing so at the end of the day everything I say is fact
@Shaun_Jones
@Shaun_Jones 14 күн бұрын
I think the F16XL was rejected because although it could carry a lot of ordinance, it could only carry 500 pound bombs. Compare that to the F15E, which could carry multiple 2,000 pound weapons. Also, in my selfish opinion, the F16XL was pretty ugly.
@edutaimentcartoys
@edutaimentcartoys 14 күн бұрын
amazing helicopter video
@robynlang8554
@robynlang8554 12 күн бұрын
Can you try and see if there’s any Canadian jets I would like to hear about more if there’s any prototypes or something
@leeroyloke8415
@leeroyloke8415 14 күн бұрын
I recalled reading from a non-fiction Tom Clancy book which mentioned about the AH-56 and one of the issues which led to its cancellation. That was the growing sophistication and capability of Soviet AA defences such as the ZSU-23-4 Shilka and shoulder-launched SAMs (and vehicle-mounted variants of said SAM system). One of the key features of the AH-56 was diving attacks which required it to fly into the teeth of Soviet-designed mobile AA defences. In contrast, the AH-1 and others like it were meant for stalking and shoot-&-scoot tactics by hiding behind obstacles. And I think the AH-1 kept being updated even now.
@user-ul1ew5jq1x
@user-ul1ew5jq1x 14 күн бұрын
Apaches were prohibited from fighting in Yugoslavia because of SA-14s and other manpads. Maybe Iraq too, though by now they probably have more effective IRCM.
@leeroyloke8415
@leeroyloke8415 13 күн бұрын
@@user-ul1ew5jq1x Don't forget this example from the 2003 Invasion of Iraq too: (a) Operation Iraqi Freedom - Mass Apache Assault Goes Wrong: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7t_hMKizpeyn2Q.html (b) Apache Attack Helicopter Tactics of Iraqi Freedom: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ba1omL2optW1loE.html
@philsalvatore3902
@philsalvatore3902 5 күн бұрын
I asked a Marine Cobra pilot about the modern threat. Whereas when I was a helo pilot in the 1980s staying below 50 feet above ground or the sea surface was enough to prevent SA-7 and similar threat systems from locking on to you. They would lose you in ground clutter and never acquire. Today every modern MANPAD can track targets down to the surface, over land or water, so there is no longer any sanctuary down low. So this Marine, who was a test pilot btw, told me in Iraq the tactic was to "stay high and trust your countermeasures". You could hear my rectum slam shut the next county over! But, they have some pretty interesting sensors and ways to disrupt the seekers on incoming missiles that we didn't have.
@lawrencehubbard2985
@lawrencehubbard2985 7 күн бұрын
Many years ago there was one on display. Walking around the helicopter it was unbelievable how that they were rejected. Then many years later there was a program about it. It was loaded with errors and overruns that killed the program.
@jeebusk
@jeebusk 13 күн бұрын
no mention of piece price, or operating cost...
@Zachary244
@Zachary244 12 күн бұрын
what website do you use to make the AI videos??
@jfangm
@jfangm 9 күн бұрын
The cancellation of the Cheyenne is just another reason why the USAF was a mistake.
@srogamina
@srogamina 13 күн бұрын
3:10 - the tail propeller is working backwards xD
@saschapriyambodo7250
@saschapriyambodo7250 14 күн бұрын
Dude i swear some american tech that looks "Futuristic" are literally old as heck!
@FoundAndExplained
@FoundAndExplained 14 күн бұрын
its crazy. in the 1960s we had tech that makes today look old!!!
@saschapriyambodo7250
@saschapriyambodo7250 14 күн бұрын
@@FoundAndExplained Dude fr they need to take more inspirations from older tech!
@craig4867
@craig4867 10 күн бұрын
Defiant X looks very similar to the AH-56 Cheyenne and it also got canceled! Bell helicopter 🚁 wins again! Makes you wonder 🤔
@RGP3012
@RGP3012 14 күн бұрын
Very epic video
@RGP3012
@RGP3012 14 күн бұрын
I wanted to see this
@vin7490
@vin7490 14 күн бұрын
More lockweed content please
@marsaustralis6881
@marsaustralis6881 7 күн бұрын
One thing not mentioned is that the USAF also fought against the pusher-prop design, claiming that it was entering the speed domains "reserved" for the USAF's exclusive use, and lobbied hard to get the Cheyanne killed. Heck, they also complained that the long wings and speed made it an airplane in disguise. The biggest irony though is that in recent years, the US military as a whole realized the need for a faster helicopter, and pusher-prop designs like this were submitted by several groups, including again, Lockheed-Sikorsky. But alas, it just doesn't seem meant to be, between losing the Blackhawk Replacement program (Lockheed's Defiant X) to Bell (V-280 Valor, although it was a fair loss, as the Defiant X was behind schedule), and the light-attack/scout helicopter replacement program being cancelled, which had the Defiant X as a Huey-like successor and Bell's Invictus being a spiritual Commanche/Cheyanne descendant (there's a certain irony in how the designs are reversed; Lockheed making a Huey-style design, while Bell made a Cheyanne-style design).
@philsalvatore3902
@philsalvatore3902 5 күн бұрын
The Russo-Ukraine War is forcing the US Army to rethink both armored warfare and helicopter warfare. The Army also cancelled a drone program. Smaller cheaper and more numerous seem to be gaining favor over single platforms with eye-watering do everything tech.
@AHappyCub
@AHappyCub 14 күн бұрын
IMO it would've been better if there were 2 project running side by side, a low attack heli and a high attack heli that is intended to work side by side
@rodgerhunter1591
@rodgerhunter1591 7 сағат бұрын
Also the Air Force was a little pissy that this helo was stepping on their toes matching performance of a fixed wing which would be against Army doctrine
@SirHeinzbond
@SirHeinzbond 14 күн бұрын
i could see the civilised Version a self seller to small Island Nations in the caribbean and other places where still today fly twin otters and alikes... also i guess with more flight hours and experiences we would be closer to the flying car future than we are today... the military one, for Vietnam it was too late, but like you said, it would be constantly upgraded like Chinooks and other military equipment so i guess you are right, it would have shorten the time to the capacity we have now, but would this be the price worth, i doubt it...
@Bacteriophagebs
@Bacteriophagebs 5 күн бұрын
Notably, the reason Soviet choppers got "targeted" (shot down in huge numbers) was because the U.S. was slipping so many Stinger man-portable surface-to-air missiles to the Mujahideen that at one point they started using them as anti-vehicle and anti-personnel missiles since they had almost as many of them as they did RPGs. When a HIND flew near a Mujahideen force, it tended to get shot at by multiple Stingers from multiple angles.
@christopherneufelt8971
@christopherneufelt8971 14 күн бұрын
One of a principle reasons for cancellation of a project is the support of associated industries of a competitor project. This phrase is the whole history of US military projects.
@taherahmad2818
@taherahmad2818 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for this wonderful video. The helicopter is a great invention and its primary purpose was for rescue and flying ambulance.
@ImpendingJoker
@ImpendingJoker 13 күн бұрын
I was waiting to see if you'd botch who made the AH-64, and you sure as hell did. The Apache was developed by Hughes Aircraft Company before it was absorbed by McDonnel-Douglas, this was years before Boeing took over M-D.
@user-ys5rd6fs4m
@user-ys5rd6fs4m 9 күн бұрын
Hey,anyone here still remember and know what happened to escape velocity?😭
@mongooserina
@mongooserina 14 күн бұрын
The Peace Sentinel and Militaires Sans Frontières' gunship of choice
@frankpemberton9589
@frankpemberton9589 10 күн бұрын
Never knew there was a pusher prop helicopter back then
@Claymore5
@Claymore5 13 күн бұрын
McNamara was a beancounter and a bully and we all know what means...he would have made the perfect merchant banker
@cwnicholson4439
@cwnicholson4439 14 күн бұрын
Why don't these platforms have a reverse 90-180° firing hardpoint?
@velocity324
@velocity324 14 күн бұрын
It didn't look badass enough. The most badass looking thing always wins
@pegcity4eva
@pegcity4eva 14 күн бұрын
Yup
@pootmahgoots8482
@pootmahgoots8482 8 күн бұрын
"Cobra killer" ...and the Cobra moved on in life to become the Viper. The end.
@raymondyee2008
@raymondyee2008 6 күн бұрын
Yes indeed and let’s not forget plenty of spare parts available so logistically the AH-1 made more sense in Vietnam.
@Chimpunk729
@Chimpunk729 13 күн бұрын
Lockheed....Apple of defense industry One thing i had hear about the cancellation due to the Air Force that didnt like Army took over their job on XAS role. The cancellation would led to the birth of the A 10 Thunderbolt II.
@dorsk84
@dorsk84 14 күн бұрын
So the gunner moved with the gun! I can see where they got the idea in Last Starfighter.
@lawrenceshu7718
@lawrenceshu7718 13 күн бұрын
Just another example of US military's short-sighted behaviors. Another is focusing primarily on stealth and BVR capabilities and downplaying the necessity of close-range dogfighting via thrust-vectoring technology. Enough said.
@JLAvey
@JLAvey 12 күн бұрын
I think it's time to take a look at the Republic XF-103.
@Einwetok
@Einwetok 14 күн бұрын
20:00 It would have been in production, but it was a product of it's time. Crew survivability features are far less than the Apache.
@stuartford5556
@stuartford5556 14 күн бұрын
I've heard there was some Bell Wining and Dining of Generals going on. That's how things are with projects in the Pentagon!
@kevatut23
@kevatut23 14 күн бұрын
Always enjoy the vids. But this time... Not so much. I flew C model gunships, and was stationed at Fort Rucker when one of the Cheyenne prototypes spent some time there. There is no doubt it seemed a tech marvel at the time, but it's appearance in-country would have made little, or no difference in the outcome.
@AlphaWhiskey_Haryo
@AlphaWhiskey_Haryo 12 күн бұрын
what did they call the fixed wing turbojet attack plane?
@huybinhle5796
@huybinhle5796 14 күн бұрын
cool!
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