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Why Microsoft’s CEO is ready to take on Google with ChatGPT

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The Verge

The Verge

Жыл бұрын

Microsoft has announced a new version of its search engine Bing, powered by an upgraded version of the same AI technology that underpins chatbot ChatGPT. The Verge’s Nilay Patel sat down with Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella to discuss.
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@analyticalmindset
@analyticalmindset Жыл бұрын
Seriously the way Satya answers those questions with such passion, positivity, and intelligence ... it's honestly inspiring.
@robertvarga9405
@robertvarga9405 Жыл бұрын
Agreed he's a great CEO and role model. I want to be like him but to my kids (that would be a great achievement even if in so much smaller scale lmao!)
@laviray5447
@laviray5447 Жыл бұрын
He looks so excited about this new technology, the competition and new opportunities. So am I!
@joaaotubee
@joaaotubee Жыл бұрын
Ballicker much eh
@VR_Wizard
@VR_Wizard Жыл бұрын
I think a chat bot will be able to give answears as good as tvis or even better in the near future. Some of Chat GPTs answears are already gold.
@analyticalmindset
@analyticalmindset Жыл бұрын
@@VR_Wizard I use it for work everyday . I'd pay for it if I had to
@RedwoodGeorge
@RedwoodGeorge Жыл бұрын
That was one of the best interviews I've seen in a long time! I've spent a decade in a newsroom next to award-winning reporters and have heard many questions being asked. Nilay did a fantastic job of bringing up the difficult topics without hesitation (but with respect and perspective) and frankly Satya was receptive to the questions and responded openly and clearly. I came away with a lot of respect for both of these men.
@SimonHarrisAdDope
@SimonHarrisAdDope Жыл бұрын
I agree it was an excellent interview, that being said I thought Nadella was evasive when pressed around the impact that improved search answers will have on publishers who ultimately provide the information that underpins Bings answers. My take is as the quality increases publishers traffic will fall & as Nilay says this changes the value exchange significantly.
@JustXavier
@JustXavier Жыл бұрын
This was a great interview. Tough questions, but presented fairly. I’d love to see more of these.
@reckless1280
@reckless1280 Жыл бұрын
Listen to Decoder!
@gabrielmoro3d
@gabrielmoro3d Жыл бұрын
I agree. The questions about people not clicking the actual articles was essential. And I love how he insisted on it to prove his point.
@Saotik
@Saotik Жыл бұрын
It's clear that Satya appreciated it too. There was pushback both ways, but always with mutual respect. This is excellent journalism.
@gaweringo
@gaweringo Жыл бұрын
There are already a bunch of decoder podcast episodes. For anyone looking for some good interviews.
@DJHDOG
@DJHDOG Жыл бұрын
Best interview I saw with Satya so far, other interviews have been too short or shallow with their questions. This one really drills down into some detail
@TheVerge
@TheVerge Жыл бұрын
Issues with the video quality have now been resolved! Apologies that it happened in the first place, but a big thank you for all your patience. 🙌 - Vjeran
@nkica
@nkica Жыл бұрын
Oprošteno, Vjerane:)
@TheNathanChronicles
@TheNathanChronicles Жыл бұрын
This is a pretty damn good example of a textbook interview. This was such a great discussion.
@seshadrisridharan9326
@seshadrisridharan9326 Жыл бұрын
One of the best tech interviews ever! Great job Nilay
@joseortiz_io
@joseortiz_io Жыл бұрын
Great interviewer! Asked tough questions and brought up big concerns. Great job 🤖
@haseebkahn4811
@haseebkahn4811 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, the verge! For bringing up Satya in the interview. Definitely not easy.
@shanew4451
@shanew4451 Жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic interview! Amazed to hear Satya say that this shift needs to have some regulation around it. A refreshing take from a tech CEO
@LuisManuelLealDias
@LuisManuelLealDias Жыл бұрын
They always say this sort of stuff
@auliamate
@auliamate Жыл бұрын
@@LuisManuelLealDias Apple has kept real quiet on App Store regulations until the idea of them was brought to the table. Same with Google and Meta/Facebook with harvesting and selling people's data to push ads into ever corner of the internet. Same with NFTbros when crypto and non-fungible tokens were all the rage in 2021.
@UrbanistBlooms
@UrbanistBlooms Жыл бұрын
For big CEO's and companies, regulation benefits them as they have the capabilities to tackle those which the government puts out, makes it much harder for startups though which helps keeps the giants in their place.
@TheGoncas2
@TheGoncas2 Жыл бұрын
Don't be fooled, they say these things to be seen as harmless to regulators.
@supercurioTube
@supercurioTube Жыл бұрын
Microsoft's CEO is being diplomatic here, but once the user experience of querying the model is seen as vastly superior to searching for answers on random websites, it's unlikely that people will still want to do that. There'll be a complete paradigm shift, and many categories of websites and their business model won't make sense anymore
@gabrielmoro3d
@gabrielmoro3d Жыл бұрын
Written content by humans is going to take a huge toll.
@ExNihil0
@ExNihil0 Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielmoro3d I don't think it's going to challenge the creativity of great human writers anytime soon.
@sharpvidtube
@sharpvidtube Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielmoro3d I doubt that will happen, until there's no way to detect something is written by AI, then great writers will still be able to use that tool better than anyone else.
@yashancientbeast
@yashancientbeast Жыл бұрын
as he said there's gonna be some search buttons like 'where does this answer come from' but the thing is nobody actually knows how the product is gonna be used by us. only time will tell and in a year, it'll be clear. then only one can be sure of it. let's just keep an eye on it for now.
@m1n1t3
@m1n1t3 Жыл бұрын
Fair enough. Too many websites are just out there to collect Ad revenue w/o real value. Good to see them go.
@martymalone4
@martymalone4 Жыл бұрын
Awesome interview!! Love his acknowledgement of Microsoft's infamous past branding issues 😂
@zhanezar
@zhanezar Жыл бұрын
really surprised at the quality of this interview , Verge is doing great work with their amazing people, please more of this!
@V99.2
@V99.2 Жыл бұрын
Satya is very very confident about his new product.... 👍
@revanthtiruveedhi3842
@revanthtiruveedhi3842 Жыл бұрын
Great interview! Really felt you were asking questions that were thought provoking and were asked with research done behind
@Devyn89
@Devyn89 Жыл бұрын
Of all the tech CEO’s he’s the one I’d want to most sit down and have a chat with.
@maniacram
@maniacram Жыл бұрын
I'd most want to*
@MrRinre
@MrRinre Жыл бұрын
The CEOs that come from a tech background generally are much more interesting than their business counterparts
@z077aarkamitra3
@z077aarkamitra3 Жыл бұрын
@@MrRinre Look at where that got them. Managers like Tim and Satya got the best returns and bets.Technocrats like Sundar and Mark got the short end of the stick with almost all of their bets failing.
@-7-man
@-7-man Жыл бұрын
Satya's answer to questions are so verbose and free flowing.. As if they are coming straight out of chat GPT.
@winstonmontgomery8211
@winstonmontgomery8211 Жыл бұрын
This was an incredible interview. Your questions were great. I loved all the answers too. The lighting and camera work was top notch.
@ashwinbhat95
@ashwinbhat95 Жыл бұрын
This was a great interview all around. Tough but fair questions, engaging discussion and great responses from Satya. Well done Nilay and The Verge team!
@ivishnukn
@ivishnukn Жыл бұрын
A great interview. Kudos to Nilay and the team
@VedantShetty
@VedantShetty Жыл бұрын
I remember Satya's talks as a freshly minted CEO of Microsoft about a future where we could access all our content across screens and operating systems - a platform-agnostic future. It was a prescient vision, and we are now living in that future. I get the same feeling of seeing the future from his talk here. I look forward to welcoming our co-pilot agent overlords.
@Nainara32
@Nainara32 Жыл бұрын
If only I'd been smart enough to invest in Microsoft back then.
@MrRinre
@MrRinre Жыл бұрын
Never too late to invest now😂. Imagine Bing gets even 10/20% market share of search, Microsoft's value would grow a lot.
@CuauhRi7
@CuauhRi7 Жыл бұрын
Incredible. Clicked on this out of curiosity and ended up watching the entire interview. Great work!
@vkidambi
@vkidambi Жыл бұрын
Excellent questions. I have watched several of Satya’s interview and this has by far been the best interview with insightful questions. Well done Nilay!
@reckless1280
@reckless1280 Жыл бұрын
This is like our best thumbnail ever
@TheVerge
@TheVerge Жыл бұрын
Yuuup... it's up there!
@ssaini5028
@ssaini5028 Жыл бұрын
Is the verge a good place for conservatives to come and work?
@ThisIsTechToday
@ThisIsTechToday Жыл бұрын
Honestly, mind blowing lol
@laurensveldman5180
@laurensveldman5180 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed every second! Rarely I see interviews this well balanced.
@SuperMustache555
@SuperMustache555 Жыл бұрын
You asked some really hard-hitting questions, this was an awesome interview!
@megaroeny
@megaroeny Жыл бұрын
I've already been using Bing as my default for about a couple years now, since I switched to Edge. The design of the search results are actually more helpful than Google already imo.
@johnne86sd
@johnne86sd Жыл бұрын
Wow! What a powerful interview. Much respect to both of these men. Makes me wonder if this new Bing Chat can potentially wipe out the need for front end websites. Seems like the Bing Chat interface can potentially be that front end for everything as it's pulling in all the relevant content from else where. It's as if Bing Chat is generating a custom front end with exactly what you want, dynamically in your face. I think it's going to even pull in pictures, likely maps and other visuals I assume. Can this change the way we make or think about websites, can a site just be pure JSON data or some other structured API instead for those that just need to get information out there and not technically have a flashy website?
@theWanAndOnly
@theWanAndOnly Жыл бұрын
I strongly disagree, mainly because google tried that already with Amp and it resulted in websites looosing tonnes of revenue from ads. What we need is what he's advocating for, a benevolent AI that actually tells you where it got its information from, and how to know more. Its great because it drives traffic to those websites which generate revenue
@sachin_s
@sachin_s Жыл бұрын
Great interview Nilay! I also admired the straightforward answers that Satya gave - not something we see in action with many tech CEO’s these days. I think MS is on to this as a winner…
@justincamilleri80
@justincamilleri80 Жыл бұрын
Satya can really answer great questions with ease. Wow what a leader
@analyticalmindset
@analyticalmindset Жыл бұрын
You can tell he's passionate and knowledgeable about it.
@DGA-808
@DGA-808 Жыл бұрын
Awesome interview. Loved to hear his outlook on the future. Specifically his thoughts on Bing
@vixdc
@vixdc Жыл бұрын
That was a very good tech interview with plenty of well-asked tough questions. Good job!
@Mrkeybrd
@Mrkeybrd Жыл бұрын
The thumbnail rocks! Did you use a 360 cam to film this interview?
@dannyroberts7118
@dannyroberts7118 Жыл бұрын
That was an astonishing interview by the Verge team, as Satya was talking i was reflecting on his books. He certainly is a person who does what he says he is going to do….translating poetry as a first prompt haha brilliant!
@oso3557
@oso3557 Жыл бұрын
Such a great interview! Great questions, great answers and a CEO who actually has a plan.
@TickerSymbolYOU
@TickerSymbolYOU Жыл бұрын
What a really really great interview by Nilay with awesome answers by Satya. Super exciting stuff!
@aaronkbutler
@aaronkbutler Жыл бұрын
Wow Nilay. This is one of the best tech interviews of all time. Really. Than you.
@briancoder7621
@briancoder7621 Жыл бұрын
Great interview. Can’t wait to Bing it! Thanks for your good work, Nilay.
@_vmart25
@_vmart25 Жыл бұрын
I loved the interview and it was interesting to see the fear that this is causing not only to Google but people like you the verge that profit from ads. As he said let’s dance 🔥
@sharpvidtube
@sharpvidtube Жыл бұрын
Hard to believe that Google hasn't been working on something like this? Still not easy to take market share from such a dominant business, but Kodak no longer dominates the photography sector, because they didn't innovate fast enough, so it can happen.
@iamnotacat8391
@iamnotacat8391 Жыл бұрын
@@sharpvidtube I agree, this feels like a Kodak/Digital Camera & Blackberry/Touchscreen moment. Both of those companies already had the technology (that ultimately disrupted their business model) years ahead of their competition. Kodak had the first digital camera back in the 70's! Yet, they both sat on the tech and played defence, refusing to get out ahead of their competition. Google has had the AI chatbot tech for years (even started demonstrating it a few years back). But they are so reliant on their ads revenue, they didn't integrate it until Bing forced their hand.
@abhisheka3
@abhisheka3 Жыл бұрын
@@sharpvidtube Google is not Kodak. They still are the leaders in ML and they have already announced Bard
@sharpvidtube
@sharpvidtube Жыл бұрын
@@abhisheka3 Kodak were huge at one time, not many businesses stay dominant for as long as Google. I know it's unlikely they will lose to Microsoft, but it can't be ruled out
@abhisheka3
@abhisheka3 Жыл бұрын
@@sharpvidtube it can be ruled out. The examples you gave, the incumbent companies were rejecting the new tech at worst and being slow to adapt at best. Google is the opposite, much of the AI work is due to Google's advancements in AI/ML work. Plus Google is already a leader in the next gen tech + they have already announced Bard the same week as MS announcing theirs
@SuperMustache555
@SuperMustache555 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Satya is fantastic, so concise and well spoken
@robotman011
@robotman011 Жыл бұрын
Actually good interview. Well done Verge
@YashGogia
@YashGogia Жыл бұрын
Great interview! It would be interesting to see how this area evolves. Also, props to whoever created the thumbnail 😂
@ThisIsTechToday
@ThisIsTechToday Жыл бұрын
0:06 Damn. Nilay is sitting on the whole damn Microsoft Campus lol
@TheVerge
@TheVerge Жыл бұрын
Hi, Brandon! 👋
@ThisIsTechToday
@ThisIsTechToday Жыл бұрын
@@TheVerge Hey 👋😊
@kparaju
@kparaju Жыл бұрын
Wow, great interview. Looking forward to increased competition in the search space.
@angusorvid8840
@angusorvid8840 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I've been watching this for years. I can't wait to see how it rolls out. I was an early Google user, but I believe their approach has gone stale. I look forward to what Open AI will do for Bing. It should be quite a show.
@AshokBathini
@AshokBathini Жыл бұрын
What an interview!! Satya is so passionate about MS. Great at answering really tough questions. Inspiring leadership indeed.
@gabrielmoro3d
@gabrielmoro3d Жыл бұрын
This was fantastic and fearless. Great interviewing skills.
@rajithkumar3424
@rajithkumar3424 Жыл бұрын
One of the best tech interview , i watched recently . Interesting questions and and smart answers.would like to see more to come from you Nilay
@Real_Spencer_Foresman.
@Real_Spencer_Foresman. Жыл бұрын
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@gbengaogun
@gbengaogun Жыл бұрын
Such a terrific interview. Nilay and the verge just made my day.
@jpmilano6386
@jpmilano6386 Жыл бұрын
This is a really quality interviewer asking insightful questions and letting Satya answer. Very well done!
@drrdrake
@drrdrake Жыл бұрын
Great interview. Was engaging throughout. Excellent questions and answers throughout!
@erleedelorbe3634
@erleedelorbe3634 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the last question. I do question some of the branding and product decision they make sometimes. Great interview.
@kiannjie6204
@kiannjie6204 Жыл бұрын
What a brilliant interview, great questioning on some really potent issues - top top content
@RD-wm3fo
@RD-wm3fo Жыл бұрын
Love the questions the host asks great work!
@attaboyabhi
@attaboyabhi Жыл бұрын
very comprehensive interview ! I loved the statement "Google will show they can dance and we are the people who made them dance" !
@hydr0fire
@hydr0fire Жыл бұрын
Great interview. Satya is so smart. Of course they kept the Bing name Because It's Not Google
@jamesatkins7592
@jamesatkins7592 Жыл бұрын
It feels like it's been a while since i've seen such good questions. Satya's answers were mostly very good at answering them too
@shubhammanna
@shubhammanna Жыл бұрын
This was a very enlightening interview 💐
@JimMunro1
@JimMunro1 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic interview. Great questions and great responses. Made me think about the exciting future of it while thinking of some of the potential issues.
@HenriqueOz
@HenriqueOz Жыл бұрын
Congrats Nilay, awesome interview!
@TheVerge
@TheVerge Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@RineshAndrews
@RineshAndrews Жыл бұрын
Now I became fan of Mr Satya, Awesome interview
@L.-..
@L.-.. Жыл бұрын
Awesome Interview! IMO the best tech interview in a long time.
@vivekparmar7576
@vivekparmar7576 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic interview. Nilay asks some great questions, but Satya absolutely impresses with his very insightful and though provoking responses!
@noasswa2010
@noasswa2010 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that was such a great interview. The questions were very relevant to the impact of the new Bing and Edge capabilities powered by AI
@rakib.rahman
@rakib.rahman Жыл бұрын
Everybody in the chat calls this a interview. Nilay: no no its a podcast.
@meilyn22
@meilyn22 Жыл бұрын
Great questions from this interviewer. Many people would be afraid to ask tough questions. I felt like the answers were spot on as well. Good job guys.
@FredrickIrubor
@FredrickIrubor Жыл бұрын
interesting questions and concise answers. This is a great interview
@AakashSingh999
@AakashSingh999 Жыл бұрын
The thumbnail could have been better. An amazing professional interview gets superseded by the impression of "someone must have put Satya's face over some random commentary."
@bastost
@bastost Жыл бұрын
Great set of questions!
@klmuthu
@klmuthu Жыл бұрын
Nilay stole the show. This is the first time I was more interested on the questions than Satya’s answers. And it is not easy to take the attention aways away from a charismatic leader like Satya. Thanks so much for the great interview.
@maxziebell4013
@maxziebell4013 Жыл бұрын
Finally, some more images from the event and a great interview.
@TheVerge
@TheVerge Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! We got more coming out tomorrow!
@danilobritorocha1574
@danilobritorocha1574 Жыл бұрын
Amazing interview from the both parts, I am really excite to see this new products
@_zetrax
@_zetrax Жыл бұрын
Amazing questions, amazing answers, amazing conversation... Thank you
@Real_Spencer_Foresman.
@Real_Spencer_Foresman. Жыл бұрын
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@LifehackerAsh
@LifehackerAsh Жыл бұрын
Such humble and mature answers. Great guy!
@dijojohn38
@dijojohn38 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work, Nilay!
@WillBowers
@WillBowers Жыл бұрын
alright this is going to be huge. number one question is: how do websites who monetize traffic through ad revenue continue to make money / survive if this thing is scrubbing the data upfront
@User57655
@User57655 Жыл бұрын
That seems to be one of the reasons why Google has a tougher decision to make, do they damage current GDN revenue in the hope of winning in the future
@Rapunzel879
@Rapunzel879 Жыл бұрын
Maybe they don't? Maybe it will force them to move to a subscription model?
@god_play
@god_play Жыл бұрын
One of the best interviews since a long lonng time!
@ShawnLangford
@ShawnLangford Жыл бұрын
Great interview with great questions and great replies from Satya.
@Real_Spencer_Foresman.
@Real_Spencer_Foresman. Жыл бұрын
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@rb5955
@rb5955 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic interview! Both classy guys
@husleman
@husleman Жыл бұрын
Damn I wish this interview was like an hour long. Its a really good interview.
@HassanWorld
@HassanWorld Жыл бұрын
Loved how he answered the brand question at end.
@shubhamjain9470
@shubhamjain9470 Жыл бұрын
Wow... Great interview. You both rock 💘
@peachoboesmoke
@peachoboesmoke Жыл бұрын
Great interview! I'm still wondering about the monetization model though, is Bing going to give answers from sites that paid to be there? It's not like a search webpage where you can see multiple links at once, it's going to give answers generated from specific sources. I hope the info it gives aren't full of advertisements 😅
@analyticalmindset
@analyticalmindset Жыл бұрын
This ... SEO optimized answers lol
@nilaykarmokar5188
@nilaykarmokar5188 Жыл бұрын
From one Nilay to another.... That was a good interview...
@mohdusama6060
@mohdusama6060 Жыл бұрын
One of the best tech interview I have seen, Great Job Team. 🙌
@Real_Spencer_Foresman.
@Real_Spencer_Foresman. Жыл бұрын
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@bernhard.design
@bernhard.design Жыл бұрын
I am assuming all language models curate their data from all the websites online? Or how do they train and feed the models?
@maxsilbert
@maxsilbert Жыл бұрын
Nice interview! You really dug in with incisive questioning and followups that seemed to cut through any well rehearsed PR answers. Refreshing to hear. Satya did a great job too imo
@lil----lil
@lil----lil Жыл бұрын
Microsoft has HUGE advantage here: As advertising is not their "core" business with little or no financial incentives, they can afford to go ALL OUT. Google, OTOH, has to thread very carefully as 60% of its business derives from advertising. This is the proverbial kid who goes ALL out with nothing to lose against a seasoned pro and actually wins the game~
@DavidGodin
@DavidGodin Жыл бұрын
Outstanding interview.
@basavarajmalagi7068
@basavarajmalagi7068 Жыл бұрын
This is a great interview!!!
@balrajvishnu
@balrajvishnu Жыл бұрын
Nice interview, very good questions
@pranavbala4922
@pranavbala4922 Жыл бұрын
What an interview! 20 years from now, people will tune back to this to hear how MSFT increased their search share..!
@gsards
@gsards Жыл бұрын
Good interview. It sounded like MS have decided to push through with the chat version of Bing until some publisher(s) take them to court over it. I can't remotely see how it is going to increase traffic to publishers when users get all the answers within the chat itself. My guess is, MS will have to come up with some sort of a partner program like Adsense that will reward blogs/websites with revenue share whenever their websites are shown in the reference of each Chat response. So I think this will be the beginning of the end for small publishers, and SEO is about to change wildly. Google, from their "leaked" screenshots also seems to be doing something similar. However, in the long-term, rewarding publishers generously is going to be something that these companies will have to do, because as Nilay mentioned, the responses will get watered down over time. But I can't see this happening for a long time, so it's time for small publishers to buckle up.
@m3ntalgod224
@m3ntalgod224 Жыл бұрын
The thing is people aren’t actually seen the big picture. Yes you can get the answers in the chat, but if I’m going to search for the cheapest best computer monitor, I’m going to be like where is this thing finding such a cheap monitor and then I will click on the link and that would drive traffic.
@gsards
@gsards Жыл бұрын
@@m3ntalgod224 you mean you wouldn’t first go to Amazon or bestbuy?
@UP-To-The-Time
@UP-To-The-Time Жыл бұрын
Good interview and interviewer
@sao_rav
@sao_rav Жыл бұрын
The interviewer is great man! Nilay you did a great job, lucky for company like Verge have you, you are quite valuable. Also, I now can understand why Satya Nadella is the only genius guy in the silicon valley with great risks appetite and yet great in creating businesses with fair share of market competition, he is bringing the next age of cloud computing without anyone noticing an inch of it.
@robertbutscher6824
@robertbutscher6824 Жыл бұрын
Nilay, great interview - thanks a lot for that. Nilay, you did a great job :-)
@boogiedownnyc
@boogiedownnyc Жыл бұрын
Super good interview, he could have easily did a victory dance on Google instead he was humble and thoughtful
@AlonAbraham1
@AlonAbraham1 Жыл бұрын
Nilay, good for you. This was a very good interview
@kieranklaassen
@kieranklaassen Жыл бұрын
Great interview!!! 🚀🚀
@heller_nick
@heller_nick Жыл бұрын
Great interview!
@lakshmikanthrlakshmikanth3548
@lakshmikanthrlakshmikanth3548 Жыл бұрын
Great questions.
@wandiletembe
@wandiletembe Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this interview. It's informative.
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