Look deep within you. It hurts but you know It to be true

I'm glad we got a realistic medieval rpg once in a thousand years. So that's enough.

I think it was more to do with CryEngine being notoriously hard to mod on.

Cause WH used a large number of inhouse tools and not all of them were shared with the community. Plus the documentation wasn't ideal. Cryengine itself wasn't too bada to use, but WH established a large of number of workflows for stuff like character models which made custom mesh implementation pretty diffuclt. We managed to get custom armour in but it was super tedious and discouraged us from working on it further, plus we never found programmers to help us. Regards Seven Kingdoms team

Your missing the main reasoning why some games have giant modding scenes and others don’t, it’s mod-ability and the foundation of creation for the game itself and how many systems would need to be tweaked or recreated. Think about it like this as an easy example how hard would it be to make ai combat and pathing for warband vs deliverance, how about creating assets, the difference in graphical fidelity between the two. The way looting or gear works warband is a simple ui at end of battle. Complex movement dependent systems in deliverance good luck fixing clipping and hit boxes on custom maps. There is also the aspect of the way the code was organized and what engine is being used. Your missing all of these fundamentals in your style of videos about modding and after market support for games. It has much less to do with the points you’ve listed than you think

“Skyrim sucks, I can just play as a stealth archer and win everything easily!” Warhorse studios: *makes archery really difficult* “Omg archery in this game sucks! I’m gonna make a mod that makes it really easy so I can be a stealth archer and win everything easily!”

This game blew my life apart on release, and this is enough for me to always love and play this game over and over again - like Gothic I. Not many games achieve this.

I saw the documentary on their studio and their game development journey, and KCD was doomed to fail a lot of times along the way. Its understandable the developers stopped adding stuff to the game. Its not easy develop mod support in your game (especially if you build systems without planning on adding mod support later)

To be honest, in game where the value is in studying historical weapons and armour the architecture to the point they recreated world as it probably existed a real towns and villages. Modding some fantasy elements into it would be like putting ketchup on a lobster.

The best type of scenario to mod into this game, if it could be done better, isn't fantasy but roleplay IMO. The world is so realistic and rich with details, I think it'd be perfect for a roleplay community scene. But alas.

I read somewhere that modding was close to impossible because of the game engine and the game itself. With the game having too many parts, that to have a successful mod. Tedious amount of work had to be put in the most smallest files. Also I think after the fixes. War horse pretty much moved on.

If my Intel is correct, the developer of the Seven Kingdoms mod for Attila quit it's development after the GoT Finale and if what I think that I remember is indeed correct, that's a solid reason to quit it's development

I really don't need any mods for the game i only need a freaking sequel to be honest

The GOT mod is cancelled? Nooooo I was excited for that one dammit

Absolutely love KCD. One of the best games of the past 10 years and although its sad we didn't get the mods we hope for it doesn't take anything away from how good this game actually is.

im not even sad that modding isnt super popular the game was amazing and will forever stay in my memory

tbh some games just do not need mods. not evry game is fit on the ground level to be made into something else. modding M&B or skyrim is way easier than modding some other games.

I just wanted more armour variety such as different models for lamellar just so I can dress up Henry more

When I modded Skyrim with thousands of mods, I was envisioning an experience that KCD gave when it got released in 2019. It's sad that modding failed in the game, but the game stands well without them and for that I'm grateful.

Brilliant game but you hit the nail on the head. A lack of mods (even cosmetics like heraldry) was probably the main issue with the game. Once you've run through the main storyline, there was little left to keep one engaged; despite how beautiful the game is.

i explored it but the farthest modding went for me was a few hud mods.

I never used mods for KCD and played if for hunders of hours over and over again just because it's fun,beautiful,and gives you an amazing world to play. I don't really think that this game need mods like M&B games..

The game really over promised with the trailers. It was a buggy mess with barely working gameplay. The devs even straight up lied about some things.

I was never a gamer. being lucky enough to have a real life, I was considering time spend in front of a PC screen just a terrible waste - and I stil do. But after another of my office PC upgrade I've realized, that my system is now capable to run the highest graphic hungry apps on multiple monitors - games included. In that time, KCD was already couple years old story and being born in Bohemia myself, I've just paid couple of dollars and installed the game. After it loaded up first time I've just cranked everyhing to the highest possible resolution and hit the start just to see what happen. This was almost a year ago. I have to congratulate the whole Warhorse Studio team for this truly revolutional game. Attention to detail, truly believable storyline based on historical events, stunning architecture, immersive landscape and above all, the way you guys implemented all at the time possible risk and rewards of being Henry is simply stunning. Actually - it should be exactly the other way around - everyone else should make games at least that good instead of the BS produced nowadays. I'm considering KCD as the Holy Grail of video games. A glitch in the system - in the positive way. Warhorse Studios did put the bar way up there. Yes, the game shouldn't be easy to play or able to snitch your way around because if you try to create a truly realistic remake of a life in mideval Bohemia, the life was damn't hard back there. And there wasn't much of any mods and special abilities avilable as well. Anyway, about 3/4 years later with occasionally still playing KCD as the only game I've ever spendet the the time and money for, I've just pass the 3 million groschen mark in my Pribyslawitz chest - in hadcore mode without a single pickpocketing or ever stealing from others than the bad guys. Oh, and about the combat - try to overpay Zoul and then do singlehandedly defeat everyone there - it's well worth the money. Or do the Rattay Tourney drunk as hell. I've learned a lot about Bohemian history then ever before and that's something you wont find in any other game. Period. I'll love a sequel of this one for sure . . .

if the modding community came back to the scene i would definitely give their mods a go, although for this to be achievable warhorse studio has to shift over to a more sandbox based RPG which would be really cool ngl

Modding could have worked for Kingdom Come deliverance if the tools were released when the game was. As it sat they came out once the interest was already gone.

Bow reticle and stay clean longer was MUST have for me

I think KCD really had the potential for some mods that emphasize more on the sandbox aspect and just bring more to do to the gameworld but ... as you said: no tools for the job and when they were there it was too late.

I think to add to the success of the inevitable sequel it’s important KCD 2 is released with mod support with simpler tools

bro seriously killed that dog at the end

This game doesn't need massive mods, simple UI and QoL changes are enough

I played this game for a time just to not finish it. Seeing it over and over again makes me wanna return and finish it. I personally am not a heavy change the narrative modder kind of guy. I would only mod the game just so I can make it more immersive and interesting visually. Other than that I think the single-player aspect with linear storyline suites me.

im pretty sure its because the modding tools are bad the devs released modding tools but they were hard clunky and limited effectively making the game very hard to mod

This whole time argument doesn't really hold water. Look at Morrowind or the classic Thief games. Gotta be something else than just timing of mod tools.

All I really want is just some more armour and sword options practical or decorative just something to make Henry feel more Knight esc or add some more small things into the game. It is because of this game and Skyrim that I desperately wish to get a PC and learn how to properly mod. But even if there's isn't alot of mods Im still glad that we got a realistic depiction of medevil life with this game.

I think there is a problem with the idea that as there isn't a very large active player base anymore, moders aren't willing to put much time in moding. For example, Daggerfall, the second title of the Elder Scrolls series released in the mid 90s, was completely recreated using the unity engine by fans (Daggerfall unity), and now moders put tons of their time to create mods and overhauls, depise it being rather niche and don't attract a big player base. Also, I don't think we can link the lack of mods to the late release date of moding tools. An example would be Master of Magic, a DOS game that always was a niche game are still receiving patches and overhauls (Caster of Magic) despise the lack of moding tools (they did it by hacking the files of the game, writing new code in assembly and manipulating the binary). So, in my observation, the love that a subset of the players maintain for the game, and the replayability offered by the said game are the two defining points for the game longevity, which includes its mod community.

If they only made it like Skyrim's Creation Kit.....

Tbh this game need the "Unofficial patch" like skyrim and fallout usually need. A samll bugfixing and anti quest breaking. Plus some quest enhancement and what to do if some requirement not fullfilled bcs one of npc died or dissapeared. If they dont bother fixing it, modders should do it. And to be honest their game more polished than skyrim today lol

We need a KCD 2 or a KCD "remake" so that they connect both regions of Bohemia.

I've been a bit busy in life, but I've always been super fond of KCD and I did complete the main story. I'm just now redownloading the official modding tools, which are now at version 3.0. The last time I downloaded the mod tools they were barely around 1.0. Now I'm looking and looking, and the tutorials for the installation of the official modding tools is outdated, and the author of one such tutorial mentioned that his tutorial needed revisions since the new version of the mod tools came out (and that was older mod tools than i have now), so there really isn't anywhere at all for me to have a solid instruction for installing the newest official modding tools as they do not come with instructions in the zip file of tools. Seriously, we have an 8 part video tutorial of how to do some basic script work with some of the tools, but not a single official video of how to actually set up the newest, or each, version of the official modding tools. It's like donating a bionic leg to an amputee, but not sending instructions or offering technical assistance to install it. it shouldn't be this hard. just write a notepad document and pack it with the tools. this is exactly why i will make my first indy project with Godot, or an alternative to blender game engine, rather than one of the main and proprietary engines, because they're just so damned convoluted.

Part II is now announced, let's hope the MOD-Kit will get released faster then.

it's an amazing game and it did what it set out to do, no need for every one of these games to have a modding community that keeps it rolling for 10 years i'd say - so your point are valid, but still, why should that bother anyone

I would love some kind of small mod that adds some creepy stuff in the woods. They were my favorite woods of any game and finding something always felt special. I kinda expected some creepy encounters but they didnt happen. Would love to love some horror mod! These woods are amazingly creepy at night!

I always kinda figured someone would mod it to get something kinda like Darklands. If I had serious money, I would fund a remake of that one like the enhanced versions of Baldur's Gate.

Freaking loves this game man, definitely a masterpiece.

What a beautiful game! Too bad it missed the opportunity to have a large modding community to expand its lifespan. I have made some mods myself waiting for KCD2 2 to come but I was waiting for more ambitious projects for this game like total conversions.

This game is the perfect style for a ASOIAF game.

The only mod I would want is one that gets rid of the weird clothing that some of the nobles wear and replace it with something more accurate.

honestly i feel like your understating the capability of a modding community it'll just take longer if a dev doesn't put out modding tool for a specific situation. but maybe it's just me being someone on the outside looking in.

This games combat was ass. 25% was player skill, 50% was player level and 25% was RNG.

LOL warhorse worked hard on modding tools and no one used them you could make your own quests with custom detailed faces

Hopefully KCD2 will have mod tools, I would love to see that Seven Kingdoms mod completed.

I was excited for the game of thrones mod that was supposed to take place in the Riverland. It's to bad we didn't get it.

If mods were made to add more content to this game I would go "sprinting " back this is one of my all time favorite games!

I don't know. The focus on realism to the exclusion of everything else seemed to carry through to the modding and one thing a healthy modding has is the ridiculous. KC:D seemed against that kind of thing at it's core. It's through the ridiculous that normal mods also get made.

the combat realism mod looks cool but installing mods is a total pain

Vids that age well. With kcd2 around the corner, hopes are high. Announcing the vision for the sequel. More emphasis impacting of decisions, new combat mechanics( through ranged weapons, closer relationships between beloved npcs(capon and godwin confirmed), twice the mapsize, and a morr experienced dev team that prides itself on grass roots support(receptive to criticism) i havent looked forward to a single player rpg more than i am to kcd2

I really wished modders would support this game, let's hope for KCD2 and it being more easy to mod Castles of Bohemia is quite fun tho!

The creator of kingdom come says they are not gonna make another one or any sequels to it

I said this to myself, that if KCD modding community doesn’t provide an Assassin’s Creed inspired armor, and only just retexture existing outfit to be more stealthy, then don’t expect the community to go any higher than having patches, unlimited saving, bow aim tweak, etc.

I think a reasonable approach would be what they did with GTA 5. A single player world like we have now and a seperate experience that you can play online or alone.

Modding KCD and modding Warband is completely different, anyone can mod Mount and Blade with little experience whatsoever, it's based on python and most of the games base attributes can be altered in text files, easy to use community tools exsist so the point you can create a new mod by just changing numbers and stats in tools like Morgh's Tool and MBTweak. KCD's released tools don't even let you do basic things like add new items or provide information on how to change textures. They're extremely overcomplicated to use for even an experienced modder of other games.

I wish this game had a Roman Mod, i wanna play as a Byzantine agent travelling around resolving shit.

very stupid that you get such high status in court yet cant field even a little force.

I really honestly think that the fact that the game was such a complete package there was no needs for major mods. This game was brilliant on its own with a few good mods. Let it be what it is. It’s a testament to great game design. It stands on it own. I think you’re making hay.

The peak of KCD mods are the retexture mods lmao. Sad but true. All though some nice mods have been made but some of not been released and simply teased for some reason (They were done btw).

YES!!! This is exactly what I've been saying. It would also help if Warhorse released a bugfix patch for all the visual glitches.

I wish that multiplayer mod existed

honestly, the modding tools came out way too late for it to have a thriving modding scene. that and bannerlord released a few months after the tools dropped, and it was built from the ground up with modding in mind. its a similar game just significantly easier to mod, so why would they wanna stick to modding kcd

Whenever I played KCD, I felt that some mechanics that I could need were bare bones or weren't there at all. Like mechanic of cooking, smithing, etc.

They accomplished their mission. But I really wish it was more easily moddable.

They put their modding tools at the very end of their road map. Thats why this modding scene died. It was too little, too late. I made some successful mods for this game when it came out, and there were upwards of 20 new mods every day on the nexus back then. But instead of releasing their tools quickly, they decided to focus on fking dog dlcs

They need to make a 13th century england version of this game. Or. Even a 10th century England version of this game.

Mod tool need to be released at release or given before release to trusted people(then at release for the rest).

I’d love to throw in some GoT or LoTR mods, but honestly the game is incredible as is. 600 hours and I’m still playing

I love this game, love love love it. In its original form ive still played throught it maybe 4 times over the years. The reason Mods failed is the difficulty to install them and finding the ones that still work vs not. Truly insane how hard it is to get these mods to work

Have to agree with you… coming from a heavily modded Witcher 3 (~200 mods) I finally decided to give this game a try and was really excited to check out all the available mods only to find out that most of them are abandoned and not working with the latest game version… was really disappointed to be honest 😅

i know it lacks replayability, regardless though this is one of my fav games of all time as i have played it over 5 times on the ps4 and only ran into a number of glitches. Great video :))

I played a bit of KCD at release, liked most of it, didn't a few things then droped it with intention to wait a year for patches and mods. Three years passed and there's nothing. No villages overhaul, no crossbows, no czech dubbing, no time in my life to try it again. :

Stalker doesn't have a branching story either, yet it has a lot of mods. I think the problem was the godawful combat which simply cannot be improved by any modder.

Not every game needs to be modded, look at W3, although there are some mods that are great (like The Kaer Morhen prologue), you don't need them, same goes with KCD.

This needs a fantasy mod badly.

I love the end video of you killing the dog

I think it's probably just the difficulty of the engine and working with it using the tools etc. Skyrim got massive new mods constantly throughout it's life-cycle and people are still developing massive mod projects. If the core game is good it doesn't REALLY matter in the long run if the tool took a year to come out. I'm sure it matters short term but all that needed to happen was one, or a few amazing mods in order to spur the rest of the creative community back into the game. Simple mods like Enderal going viral for example probably inspired a hundred new mod creators.

we have good chances for a kcd 2 so lets hope that one has better modding!

If only this game was mods friendly like Bethesda titles! We could have much more armors, weapons and expanded features like the abillity to build with one of the expansions! Modders could have made it so we can build a castle or so and many, many more!

Hopefully now that the Sequel is coming out soon they won't make the same mistake again! Am also hoping we can playing the original again with the new graphics and additions! AND MODS! Bit excited tbh!

I just went through Nexus and… yeah. I’m very interested in additional perks and one for halberds to be less janky but that’s it.

Ive actually played Dark Souls and Kingdom Come is nothing like it. The combat in Dark Souls is fluid and when I die, I know beyond the shadow of a doubt that it's my fault, also, the enemies don't block literally every single attack.

I think when players want mods they want to mod it to the point where it becomes a different game because they're looking for something that it's not. This always brings me back to one point, developers should create a game that they want to share with players who want it. Players shouldn't be forcing dev companies to modify a game to how they desire it (*cough NMS*). That depletes he entire purpose for that developer to want to create that game. Developers want the players that will fall in love with the vision of the game they wish to create, not be told every which way they should have made the game and to change/add it. That's asking for a different game and where I say the players should look for something different. I don't care for mods personally b/c it takes away certain experiences from what is aimed to be delivered. I support improvement of life changes but I don't consider those mods.

You can't even find a mod that gives you a plebian house let alone a castle, these are the mods that get thrown at your head when it comes to TES games yet nearly there none of them exist for KCD except for literally 2 mods, and one of those is just changing the sleeping places you require while progressing the main game. The fact that Henry is a voiced protagonist doesn't help at all for modded quests either. This game just doesn't have what it takes I guess, quite sad tbh.

Saying it’s failed before the game is officially out of early access is kind of jumping the gun.

Anybody else experiencing the game not being able to load from the epic store? Keeps saying ESO failed something along those lines.

tldw; "Modders aren't modding the game much" Done

Sadly this game gives me motion sickness, and it's weird that I got no problems with games like Skyrim or Dark Messiah.

7:17 music made the scene in the background much worse

Is there any way to extract game models (foliage) to 3d app right now, with released modding tools or is it still impossible? Anyone knows?

I think the whole game is oriented towards realism and mods in most case scenarios are but that. On top of it i think modding support came way too late for the game, and vast majority of hype settled down. Im no modder and probably majority of people here in the comments are not as well so i cant comment on the difficulty with this specific game engine and its tools. I think its the combination of many things, modding tools came too late, potential issues on creating mods and new content, game is not friendly to its mainstream market with its heavy approach to realism. I loved the game, put 180h into it, completed all its quests and dlc's but im not sad that modding support didnt take of. Im pretty sure we are going to see kcd2 in couple of years anyway.

I play ps4 so those benign mods are the creme of the crop from my experience

1:26-1:27 the graphics are phenomenal