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A man who speaks truth and common sense. If I may add, mycelium is a neural network, basically colony of neurons each can morph into a specific type to either explore for nutrients or absorb a nutrient rich source, (rhizomorphic vs. tomantose), beyond that there are many other "neural" functions that mycelium can perform, transmitting genetic code to transmitting vital enzymes and nutrients to a symbiotic partner, we, meaning most of us are only beginning to understand the power of mycelium and the way it interacts with the world around it. Personally, I love the process of cloning to petri dishes then cleaning up the subsequent transfers to isolate contaminate free plates. My problem is I generate way too many plates and subsequently I now have 9 tubs all colonized and the first is fruiting 12 days from putting substrate, those are the genetics you want, and a good problem to have

I think there is a real danger of the community losing valuable genetics because so many choose what they think is the fastest and strongest growth. The Penis Envy strain for example wouldn't exist if everyone thought this way, as it was originally developed from a mutation and doesn't necessarily grow quicker or stronger than some other varieties. In other words, fastest isn't necessarily the best or the only factor that people should value in any given mycelium culture.

I fell all the way down the agar and LFH rabbit hole. I bought a ll the stuff and studied hard. My first grow was terrible. I was overwhelmed with all these possible problems and controlling the environment, etc. I hope more newbies get this kind of info early. It will save a lot of time and money. Thanks!

Loving the voice over edits! Adds a bit of energy, charm, and care.

Tell ya what sir! I ain’t even watched the whole vid and you’re making a shit load of sense to me! Brother thank you for speaking English!!

This is some very sensible wisdom. You just changed the way I design my myco selection cycles. 🙏👍

You are absolutely my favorite across so many youtubers! So many people try to make everything so complicated Thanks!

Great video and even greater information!

so far you *are* actually my favorite. there's not as much flash as some of the other videos i've seen, but your tendency to focus on sterile tech and other nuances of how you operate in the SAB are top tier. i'll take great info over flashy production any day, not to detract from the quality of your videos either, they're still great.

I started with pf, started making my own spore syringes after first harvest. I've been happy. I eventually switched to bulk, still using multi spore. Have thought about agar, but if it's not broken, don't fix it. I'm no mycologist, but have been playing around over 10yrs on and off.

Fascinating. The explanation of the coir and genetics was very helpful.

@6:36 - This is the second time I have watched this video according to my history. Something just clicked and the entire video became some of the most useful information I have in my knowledge basket. Well done!

You is my favourite Sage 💙

Great video, I see so many people focusing on selecting for rizo growth when in fact it does not matter. Most of my best genetics are tomentos and are not picture perfect. Thanks again!!

Ya learn something new every day! Thanks...

You and Dave Wombat have me sure that I’ll always work with spores to some degree.

Wow. TY for that island metaphor.

Can't like this enough times! Totally agree with everything this guy said and he is spot on.

Thank you so much for this info. I am a beginner and plan to keep it simple. PS you are my favorite! 😂

Definitely makes sense... Fruiting my first mss monotub. Can't wait to take some clones and go from there. Thanks for sharing the knowledge✌️🍄

U make so much sense man thanks

Bet new sub here.this is probably th 5th video in a row.tyvm 4 the 411.mush luv

Well done! After reading so much material, it's good to be reminded of the basics! 🙂

100% agree. Every print or swab I get I make a syringe and inoculate a couple pf cakes. from those I clone my top three mushrooms of each strain onto agar for continued grain and coir tests. always get best genetics and still have most of the print in storage

This video was FIRE

As a beginner starting out with agar I find this to be really insightful, thank you

Such a great video! I have been thinking a lot about this and it really makes sense to me. I was thinking about the 'lottery' part of MSS and was thinking that going MSS to spawn gives you that lottery, but it's limited because of proximity i.e. a germinating spore has to wait for aother spore in it's immediate area to germinate and reach it for reproduction (I'm sure I'm using incorrect terms). This all made me think, if you have a MSS that you know is clean, would going MSS to LC provide more opportunity for more spores to combine and create a larger # of spores that pair up, increasiing the # of opportunities for the lottery to come through with what you are looking for? Would love to hear your take.

Great video man! I'm finding some of the best information has come from super passionate people that may not have a lot of subscribers. You definitely deserve more!

Your my favorite channel

Ben's Tek was my first succesful spawn to bulk... I think as long as you do the hot needle air exchange holes with micropore tape and less than 0.5cc of LC I made from multi spore was the best way to get into it. I prefer lc with bens Tek for the faster colonization. There's also it's sister Tek for lc, the Capri Sun Tek

Ah glad they made you whole, I first found you on the new sages galactic whatchamacallit

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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH I was WONDERING why my Lc was Rhizomy in one grain jar and Tomantose in another jar! I didn't even know what the names were but now I do! One jar was popcorn, one was a mix of popcorn, rice and wheat, same LC. THAT is SO COOL! I even took a few grains from each to start separate experiments on agar. HA! Laugh's on me... It's all the same! fun fun fun FUN thank you.

Thank you for explaining so I could understand Thank you

This is absolutely true!!!

It just makes sense

I started with agar because I knew I was going to stick with and I’d need a way to keep it going.

You're so right.

I doubt people will read this, but I started from MSS to agar. I purposely isolated ryzo and put it to corn. I found that the fruits had almost no flavonoids. I made a syringe from an 3rd gen agar plate and put it to brown rice. The tube looks 120% different than the corn tubs. It's got puffy little blobs all over which the other corn did not. The other corn had ryzo and took forever to pin. I don't have updates on the brown rice tubs yet.

I love agat ive put alot of time making pretty plates but i always go back to spore every 2-3 generations

I'm new at this . I'v got a few jars going . I'm working on a glovebox atm . I use popcorn and it seems to be doing well . I also made 2 small jars with cracked corn . Both look good and doing about the same . your Videos are very helpful . Thank you . BTW I started 3 weeks ago .

Great clear explanation thanks!

I did broke boi tek for my first grow got two shoeboxes to fruit twice before contaming out. Got 2 ozs dry total. Didn't get trich, not sure what the contam was it just started smelling bad, probably bacteria from dunking and not getting all the water out.

Brilliant information thank you

Hey man, thanks for this well needed vid! I totally agree about the fetishisation of agar, for having fallen for it myself a little at the start of my journey. Got a clearer understanding of how things work now, and this vid helps formalise these concepts I've learned with time. Now about transfers.. focusing on rhizo means nothing when done from a random multi spore, I get that. But as you start narrowing down genetics, via cloning or your own prints, at some point you will need to transfer to new plates right? Either to clean up from contam, or just to duplicate.. And at that point, it does make sense to go for nice aggressive rhizo over tomentose, just in order to get a faster myc expansion of you known genetics.. would you say that's a correct formulation?

You are my favorite xD

Beautiful vid bro. Thank you for your wisdom.

Brilliant video, I'm back to growing after 3 years break and feeling like novice again, which is rather nice going through all this process again and learn new things so thank you for sharing again. There is another question which intrigues me, what if mycelium is fully taking over contamination in petri dish? Is it safe to use? I believe in nature such a battle is on daily basis.

Love the way u explained everything good shit man!

Your my favorite as well 🤙

Sometimes we just get so hyperfocused on what we're doing, we lose track of why we're doing it.

Great explanation

I just get fully colonized agar plates cut them into pieces and put them in grain jars and shake I don’t really care about all the lab stuff, it works fast is all I care about.

Thx for this one. Makes total sense.

Great info as always! Thanks

So patience makes it, bc the longer and the weirder the better, as long as your home environment isn’t chaos?

Love this it was so informative

I like to get to rhizo so that I know what I got growing and not some kind of growth that I'm not sure about. Thanks for the lesson.

I’ve found some really cool mutations from ms. I’m now trying to isolate those genes

i've seen jars with rhizo myc though, maybe it's faster and more efficient but i feel like as a hobbyist that just want some flavor it doesn't matter.

PAN CYAN TEK CAKE ?

Defo my favorite too :P

This video is an attention subscription getter

Thanks bro....watch alot...alot...of this shit..you are number 1..again thanks ....one love

Okay, I'm new to the hobby myself and although this video absolutely helped it does seem to race a few questions. At least for me it does. So since coir has very little to no nutrition the riseomorphic growth is basically the fungal entity rapidly trying to find a new source of food. So then the only point of the coir being to spawn as many fruiting bodies as possible. Well if that's the case isn't the fungal body just using all of the energy it got from say, the grain, to rapidly expand through an area with no nutrition in search of another area with the nutrition that it needed? Wouldn't that just cause a bunch of fruiting bodies that in fact had less nutrition in each than and fungal body that was allowed to fully colonized an entire container with just grain? It seems to me that entire box of just grain the size of a bulk spawn would you

The big reason I start with plates is because most spores are contaminated.

The mycelium in my popcorn jars is very rhizomorchic, at least from one of my strains. From another, it is more tomentos.

Awesome

ok, so what exactly is the point of using agar plates? Just to grow out a good genetic selection from a fruit, then spawn it?

Firstly, thanks for the video😊 Secondly, 5:03 idk about the genetics conservation part but I am pretty sure people would use the petri dishes to ensure they have a pure sample to innoculate spawn next time. Right?

Thank you man ❤

@9:00 - Passionate - Dude, that's usually the people that I listen to the most. The ones with passion for a particular hobby. So MSS to grain tops MSS to agar in the long run?

Please start adding “your favorite” confident and swiftly.

@1:20 what if you use grain water for plates?

In one foot step is hundreds of miles of pathways :)

and what happend ro the previous channel

Correct me if I'm wrong, but tomentose mycelium is mostly digestive, where rhizo is mostly for travel?

I have never bought a syringe that wasn’t contaminated if you dont use agar how do you separate contam from mycelium

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So start from spores, grow that out, clone fruit, grow the clone out, do this about 5-5 times, then take a spore print. If I eventually want a monoculture, where in this process would I do that?

There are so many people out there insisting that if you get rhizo growth(on some agar formulation completely unrelated to your grains) then it will carry on with that morphology in grains and colonize faster. I just can’t believe that, because the morphology is in response to nutrient availability… seems like they’re wasting time making agar art projects.

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i feel like mss is a good start, then clone.

Why is coco non nutritious? I would assume it is. I have seen many times mushrooms growing inside of a fresh bag of coir.

I didn’t know coir was not nutritious 😮

I am new and understand little. If it was more detailed and explained every term. What is PF plates/cakes, riz, tomentors etc., You think the newbie can understand you.

AGAR FETISH 😭😭😭😭🤣🤣

Whats ur agar recipe, i fucked up when going off someone elses u have perfect agar

Would you say its more important to worry about cloning fruit size and speed of colonization then?

Yea, taste test it. Thats what its all about! lmao

Where did you learn that corn has no nutritional value? Corn contains certain B vitamins and vitamin C, as well as magnesium and potassium. Yellow corn is also a good source of two antioxidants, zeaxanthin and lutein. That's just for human consumption too. It has plenty of nutritional value especially to mycelium. That's why it has more rapid growth on corn & less contaminations.