I was going to tell you exactly what you clarified, excellent content man

Easy mistakes to make, thanks for acknowledging them

That weird competing infusion thing happens when jean is infused with any other element from another characters ability. Its just the most devastating with bennet. But barbras E skill, Candance burst, Chongyun E, Doris burst, etc can all do it to different degrees.

I made the same mistake at first. It just makes a mediocre burst even worst tbh. Feels bad man.

you also made another kinda-error: according to zajef - who i trust bc as a tc he knows his numbers - xiao is actually better in most cases than wanderer. so either call both of them not-that-great or both not-half-bad

Boy, Xianyun aged this comment poorly...

I haven't played for a couple weeks. She get powercrept again?

Yeah Xianyun does what Jean does but a little bit better. On top of that she enables plunge on all characters and gives additional anemo damage on plunge too. And on top of that, Xianyun gives overworld mobility utility. So unless you plan on running a carry in abyss that can't utilize plunge well (like Neuvillette) and have something like a C2 Jean, C0 Xianyun is just better.

@@kyubey8081I didn’t know Xianyun heals

@@kyubey8081 Jean gives 40% reduced Anemo Res at C4, and Jeans heal is a LOT better then Bird lady. Jeans skill is also on a faster CD The only difference is pulling for Jean is next to impossible while bird lady has featured banners

Vars 2 and the rest of the player base: yes, you are a joke QiQi: wha?

@@Samswordst but qiqi is the best hydro dps

Jeans cons are just stronger

Qiqi is the best cryo battery

@@buttercup3030 hydro?

its res shred not def shred

Which I guess is why Jean doesn't have the same kind of cc other anemo units have since you can use skill and CA to shove enemies in and out of the circle. Is that what the devs were thinking when they designed her kit?

@@junyew1813 ok but who’s gunna spend time doin that

@@fionaroni exactly the point

@NyanJuice honestly now that I think about it anyone tried "sunfire" with Barbara instead of Bennett?

@NyanJuice more like seawater

Man I just want her. Day 1 player and the only standard I don't have but was the one I wanted so bad when I started. Now the odds of getting her are worse with a 40% increase in the pool. I was lucky though and got Keqing on my first 10 pull and really liked her. She stayed my main after all this time.

Jean carried me up to AR53 until I got Hutao on her first rerun and I still use her occasionally

That was Qiqi for me. I got her on my first 10 free pulls when I started playing. Qiqi was actually a godly character to level with. It took a long, sad time at late game for me to realize she was no longer any good and bench her.

I just made a Jean/Klee comp just to have them together and is so much fun to use. Like you can combine Klee and Jean E to make a grenade launcher. My comp is Klee, JeanC1, Layla and XingqiuC6. Is quite nice to use and is supringly strong for a team that only have one top tier character(Xingqiu). Which is great because I can use Bennett, Zhongli, Kazuha and Xiangling in another comp.

@@DefensiveBalloons Piggybacking off of this, you could do the same grenade launcher technique with Aloy. I've ran a team that had Aloy, Klee and Jean and their skills synergize surprisingly well to literally melt enemies *badum tish*.

I am glad someone beat me to it.

@@ravageroosgamecorner543 was about to write the same 😀

Sayu's healing also healing also scales on atk (and em with c6).

@@davidm0355 Sayu wasn't out in version 1

In my defense I haven't used Qiqi in over like a year I actually forgot which one she used LOL

​@@Wandathescarlet On early stages, just do whomever you want and build them so they can stay alive. On later stages, my advice is do whomever you like, as long as you can have fun

@@ameliasyifa4332 your correct im ar 34 and im still using my starter team just because i like them and i've built each of them properly too

​@@Wandathescarletif you only care about meta value (which barely anyone actually does), then only heavily invest in Mona and upgrade jean a bit less. Otherwise just focus on whoever you like most tbh, jean is as stated above a great generalist, Mona is an insane buffer while qiqi is uh... well maybe leave qiqi alone unless you really like her/need a second healer

​@@Wandathescarlet+1 for Mona. Generally, you can choose any, and it won't have lasting "damage" to your account. Meta wise, she is still used today in popular freeze teams. Now putting that aside, her unique sprint, taunt, and layered burst mechamic is fun too play with and master. Jean yeeting enemies into water is a close 2nd though.

Always a bridesmaid never a bride

Jean is my best healer and non mage damage dealer..

She was the first 5 star I pulled in the game still one of my favourites and I still use her.

Fellow C6 Jean user here. You’re gonna love it, especially if you’re a Xiao user 👌🏽

I'd love to get C2, but she is definitely my strongest healer/res shredder/sub-DPS at C1. Somehow managed to snag an Aquila Favonia when I first started wishing, so she's even more powerful.

I don't have her, yet. And I'm angry about it.

@faludacosmos Great pair with Xiao! One of my favorite teams these days (especially for the City of Gold artifact domain): - R1 Lv 90 PJWS/4P Vermillion/Lv 70 C0 Xiao - R5 Lv 60 White Tassel/4P Blizzard/Lv 80 C3 Rosaria - R1 Lv 80 Aquila/4P VV/Lv 80 C1 Jean - I have also replaced her with R5 Lv 70 TToDS/4P VV/Lv 60 C1 Sucrose for some CC - R1 Lv 90 Sac Sword (I've also used R5 Lv 90 Skyrider Sword when Xingqiu has Sac equipped)/4P TotM/Lv 80 C0 Layla To note, I'm F2P and wish I had some more cons, but Xiao still gets 20k+ burst plunges in the City of Gold domain (been farming it to get a decent FoPL set for Keqing). Though I don't know how much of an impact Jean's healing has on his Vermillion set, at least she keeps him alive!

I just got her at C6 last patch! She’s my Wanderer’s support, and I loveeeee her!

My mistake. Thank you for the correction!

@@VarsII Not op but Issok, you're human too. ppl make mistakes. Almost every video. Consistently. Huh.

@@VarsII you're a fool

It's not an issue with difficulty but rather the solution for everything is basically "hit it till it dies" or "hit it harder"

So basicaly In the long run this advantage is pretty much on set solid enough that even future new high diff content might become not too hard for most player that at least put little more invesment.

In the overworld maybe, but in the Abyss you're not likely to be able to use.. Amber, to get a perfect clear, and at endgame in the overworld and elsewhere the scaling is so fucked that you need overpowered artifacts to have a decent experience, and that process of mandatory grinding is heavily time-gated by an insidious pay-to-win timed currency structure.

​@@boyishdude1234 even for max stars you can use amber up to f11, just not f12 so i dont feel like what you say apply. Tho granted you need meta supports

:,D I feel that way on another game, they did somes updates, you dont get good weapons on gacha (you get weapons but at base stats while the crafted ones gain more stats), however you need to use reforges to improve the weapons for new content, that was a Shop Item and you could buy somes from another players by gold, now you can get it at somes NPC (limited weekly). But on Genshin you can clear using any char you want, will take more time but is possible. Not work on trials because the timer :,D.

I never use her and I never see anyone else use her either. obviously *some* people use literally any character in the game, so I don’t think that’s enough of a reason to disclude her from this series. remember, it doesn’t mean she’s bad AT ALL, she’s just rarely used these days and this video explains why

@@xanderkai6353 Sunfire Jean. Look it up, then you will start to use her.

@@RejectedInch , sunfire is situational "side grade" to most teams AT BEST. It's fun, but fun and meta, latter being the main topic of discussion here, are not the same.

I stopped using her after some time, new characters came out and therefore, better options in team comps

@@xanderkai6353 besides the mentioned sunfire jean she fills both the healer role and the vv shred role. Other anemo characters like kazu, venti or sucrose of course have better grouping and damage buffing but you 'need' (well not need but probably you want) a healer or shielder in your team. She is just a good (anemo) flex overall. I use her in my keqing and tighnari teams e.g. And by i see her used sometimes i don't mean obscure just-for-fun teams like seeing xinyan or amber used but rather actual component of meta teams or spiral abyss speedruns. (of course rarely though admittedly)

You can also use sunfire for Melt Ganyu, You get enough pyro to melt her charge shots and her burst

“Sunfire” burgeon with Benny C6, Nahida, Xingqiu/Yelan, and Kazuha is CRAZY good. This team actually clears 2nd half of this current abyss in under a minute. Pretty crazy

Wasn't Amber's burst the fastest Pyro application actually? Anyway, Jean+Bennett is more consistent.

I'd like to use sunfire Jean for my melt Ganyu, but sadly, its duration is too short compared to my C6 Xiangling's burst

Her go-to is anything tbh. People need to stop being meta-slaves that's all ^^

I agree 100%. My jean was underlevelled with mediocre artifacts but she sustained my coop party in domains

As a healer main in other games, I sometimes hop into co-op domains as Jean and Kokomi just to heal and keep people alive. I find some satisfaction in meeting an injured player and topping off their healthbar.

Agreed I even make qiqi if I cannot use Jean in coop

i wondered why i liked using kokomi so much and i remember i used to be a jean main when i was low Ar, i liked playing co op with my IRL friends and their yanfei and ningguang kept dying so i had to help em out 😂

Oh Jean can do game breaking damage if you build her right. I run mine with a thrilling tales tenacity Koko and benny so sunfire Jean gets a nice buff. Literally cant die

Saito Chiwa, she's been everywhere in this type of job.

Her voice is hot as Homura lol

OMG i lost it when you said "like they owed us money" 😂😂

@@actpianocover6329 same lmao i couldn't help but imagine the scenario in a mobster au style. (Or that jo-jo meme)

I remember when people learned you can get two instances of fall damage on an enemy with her E. Pretty cool tech tbh and was considered useful because of 1.0 Abyss Whopperflowers lol

Yeah, Jim Carrey... I mean Jean carry for the win!!

yh especially with furina

meanwhile I'm trying to get Jean 🥺

That's super-helpful to know, thanks!

She's not made for distant DPS initially. She's made to be versatile, polyvalent. Her C2 buff ATK speed clearly is amazing for melee characters for exemple. So no, she doing perefctly fine with melee carries, that's not the problem she has.

@@relax2413 But I mean, Bows and Catalyst can benefit just as much from increased movement speed and attack speed, that's not a melee specific buff and nowhere in it's description does it say it only works for melee. And I was mainly referring to her base kit and C6 Damage mitigation which is much more useful on squishier characters. As well as her skill and burst both having a knockback effect, which is something that is much more useful for ranged DPSes than melee. Same with her charged attack and how it suspends enemies in mid-air. She's definitely a great unit for melee DPSes but my point is that if you want to utilize her entire kit and not just Swap, E ,Q , Swap, it makes it harder on your melee units since they have to burn stamina chasing down the enemies she's flinging around while ranged characters are put into thier best position when enemies are at a distance. If her burst, for example, sucked in enemies continuously that would be a great tool for melee carries (Especially Xiao) since you'd just have to stay still and let the enemies come to you while you attack, (even better with effects that follow your character like Xiangling burst and Kuki Skill). Or if Gale Blade, instead of flinging enemies you also had the option to instead trap in them in a small vortex of wind, like her charged attack but it keeps them on the ground.

But one big thing is that in order for Jean to be a competitive pick over Faruzan, she needs to be c4 for that juicy anemo Res shred. And believe it or not, not everyone has c4 Jean. Im a week 1 player and only have her at c1. Sure, thats not the same for everyone, but its still a tall order.

@@Blackoutdmc Oh yeah definitely, but getting 4-star constellations can be just as hard if not harder, and the fact that you need Faruzan at C6 for her to be useful without huge energy investments is insane. Chances are you'll probably get C4 Jean before you max out Faruzan or maybe you get lucky idk 😂. Faruzan definitely is a great unit when built correctly but for most players who are casual and/or low-spenders I'd go Jean all the way. Even without C4 she's still very useful on many teams and isn't locked in at Anemo support. She's not the best at anything (except maybe burst healing) but she's definitely not the worst at anything. No other character is the game can do Damage, Cleansing, Swirl, Healing and Damage mitigation (With C5 though) all in the same burst.

I use Jean every day for exploration, commissions and even bosses. She is amazing to play and even better with constellations. Sometimes, I even use her outside of Xiao teams and have some fun with her despite not fitting in the meta too much.

In your dreams , Bennett and yaoyao are infinitely better units than jean

@@kingdoom5022 they uglier too 😜💅

@@kingdoom5022not true, Jean healing is better than them, Bennett can’t heal the full party and his normal attacks doesn’t heals, sure for buffer he is better, but for healing he is not even close to jean

@@nunaneto Ideally, you don't want to be auto attacking with your healer unless their name is Kokomi and she is in her elemental burst.

Jean also has possibly infinite damage through drowning, and convenient fall damage as that scales off of enemy hp

maybe she just sucks at fighting? So entitled to think that a character deserves to be OP based on, what? Her design? Her lore? You're simping for a character that is barely even out yet.

@@norwa3518 that's not what they were saying at all. Dehya's the worst 5* in the game. She could've been balanced like Ayato, but she was made deliberately bad. No one's asking for her to be op, just viable, which she isn't

my apologies yeh. Honestly I WANT to be proven wrong, and that perhaps she turns out to be AT LEAST fun to play. But based on beta info leaks for the past few weeks, BETA STUFF WARNING: I just cant help but feel hopeless. She doesn't provide even a unique/niche playstyle to compensate (they even said that she wont be effective in a burgeon comp apparently! Thoma would be better, and he's a 4-Star!). Again, I dont want to be correct here. Im hoping hoyoverse and the people getting Dehya will prove me wrong, and prove to me that SHE IS fun to play.

Dehya isn't out yet... Looking at the livestream, she is looking nice for supporting Ganyu. And even if she turns out to be bad, the game is easy anyway.

@@kurniawandelima i should probably edit my comment that would let people know that im speaking to those who have seen beta leaks. Coz i can see how dumb my comment sounds for those that havent seen said leaks. Anyways, hopefully she DOES become a good support for Ganyu. as for the game being easy and all...yes Im aware but im talking about fun factor, and im not seeing anything fun in her kit (ER issues and ICD stuff that would *potentially* prevent her from doing reactions). I could be wrong. Hell, maybe she'll turned out to be good, and this whole situation could be just like what happened to Yoimiya's beta (people were not happy at Yoimiya's state at that time, but like she's doing well now so fingers crossed same thing happens to Dehya)

The Q is really helpful in this abyss 12, Jean sunfire is a meta team based on Jean's Q Swirl.

you must've only played her in TCG, but Jean's Q field deals A LOT of dmg, it's shown in the video

@@Unwebonnn Q initial cast deals damage, entering/exiting field does damage, but the field itself doesn’t. I used to play Jean a lot, so I do know what I’m talking about

@@anyanP nevermind, I thought you meant the initial hit

@@Unwebonnn "you mudt've only played her in TGG" BRUH....

ohhhh so that is why enemies seem to be taking no damage from falling

For xiao?

Nice ^^

You actually want to push them out as her burst doesnt trigger periodically, but when the enemy enters or leaves the burst area

I don't understand what's going on and why she needs constellations in this party

You don't need sunfire for a burning team wth? Remove Jean and put Sucrose there instead. Now it is infinitely better.

Way to expensive for a stationary character.

Ive mained jean ever since I got her on my 1st pull. For the longest time I played her Anemo dps. But i only did like 200k with her skill and burst. I had trouble 36 starring. But once i built her EM sunfire, I cleared it with Raiden sunfire overvape. Best decision. I 36 starred with raiden, xingqui, jean and bennet on the 2nd half.

​@@chaosinfernoid9008 Don't know ehat is that supposed to mean but ok

National is made up of a hydro applier, Bennet, Xiangling, and a flex slot. Jean burst would interfere with Xiangling’s vapes cuz of the sunfire mechanic. Besides Jean doesn’t offer much besides vv shred and healing. Healing is redundant becuz the team already has Bennet so it’d be better to go for an offensive option like Sucrose, Kazuha, or Raiden.

​​​@@Venom-uv5fwood for you. I'm yet to 36 star with her because I haven't really used her in Abbys all that much yet. Pretty much because I don't play national to clear Abbys. I usually run Cyno Quickbloom, Keqing Aggravate, Ayaka+Ganyu freeze, Kokomi tazer, Thoma Burgeon(on field Al Haitham) and my favorite Yoimiya overvape

She's not an Anemo DPS. She's a support healer. I wouldn't take Venti over her if what I wanted was healing.

Why?

@@RHDYTstudio Jean is the best healer to pair with Furina while giving resistance shred.

IKR

With Bennet Sunfire the swirls basically do so but yes on its own it doesn't do so.

True tbh. It's not like Jean has fundamental problems to begin with. Even units like Ganyu & Hu Tao has one. The only problem about Jean is "there are better options". The same goes to Albedo as well.

I'm confused about Candace's role? Like is she an Ayato support or something?

Yeah Qiqi does

Maybe only thing missing is a way to farm ore!

@@termina2737 jean with plunging attack spam could get that done

I used Jean for exploration team too in the past, but Sayu replace her now. Sayu can break ores and doesn't startled the animals. More efficiency!

​@@fzhs7030 Jean user here. She still has meta relevant teams. Sunfire, Lightning Rod (Jean, Dori, Fischl, Nahida), Wanderer Hypercarry (she's better than Faruzan and people can just fight me on it because Jean doesn't have Faruzan's 340% ER crippling energy problems), Jean Taser (though specifically with Thundering Kazuha), Overvape, etc. Vars is right that the top of the Anemo cast is LUDICROUSLY overpowered, but she's still phenomenal to use and does get the work done. S tier unit being compared to SSSSSSSSS tier units.

@@fzhs7030 Faruzan is not better if you can't use her burst, and you can't use her burst optimally unless you have 340% ER. I know. I've tried. It doesn't work. And yes, if you consider what reactions are driving the meta (Quicken, Hyperbloom, Vaporize), she can facilitate all three with the right comp, such as Sunfire or Lightning Rod, and she allows for higher damage in the other tram slots since you can afford to run much more aggressive DPS to drive the team. This gives her a place in the meta. Not a gold prize winning position, perhaps, but a place nonetheless.

@@fzhs7030 have you tried running those teams yourself?

@@fzhs7030 and how did *you* use those teams? Do they work for you? Do they do the job as intended? If so, they do the same thing other meta teams do in the context of achieving a set goal, so while it's not award winning, it does *fall into the meta* by accomplishing the same things that Raiden National, or Aggravate Keqing, or Quickbloom, or Shinobu Hyperbloom, accomplish. Just takes a bit more effort.

@@fzhs7030 fair. You won me over. Jean is a D tier unit that should forever be benched because she's #AlwaysTerribleForever. New content is specifically released to nerf her to the ground. No weapon works well on her. She's clunky. Her healing is terrible.and her battery is nonexistant.

Jean was my go-to Anemo support for Xiao for the longest time. Now that I have C6 Faruzan I doubt I'll ever have a use for Jean again, lol. Kind of a shame.

indeed.

I lost my 50/50 on her when I pulled for Wanderer.

Barbara jean, sayu, practically kokomi

@@blablibloblou4992 he meant in one press you get chunk of HP