Why NO ONE Uses SMEARGLE Anymore...

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@ericnieves5793 4 ай бұрын

I think the fact that there are open team sheets hurts smeargle significantly.

@yunaka_gaming 4 ай бұрын

Open team sheet is the most boring thing ever

@pingufan1239 4 ай бұрын

@@yunaka_gamingI agree that it’s super boring, however it truly exhibits the skill of the individual player.

@BlackBeartic229 4 ай бұрын

@@yunaka_gaming lemme guess, you don't play

@edman9953 4 ай бұрын

@@BlackBeartic229open team sheet means you can see you’re opponents IV/EV spreads, Tera type, ability, and it’s whole moveset. Any surprise with unorthodox strategies is thrown entirely out the window if your opponent can take a VERY educational guess at what your strategy is. It’s no fun. Doesn’t help that with the current power creep, everyone runs Pokémon that are already predictable to begin with because they’re tailor made to be better than everything else out there. It’s like watching a movie, but it’s all been spoiled for you when you buy the ticket. Whats the point?

@zenospark153 4 ай бұрын

@@edman9953 You can't see IVs and EVs in Open Team Sheet, which means players can still uniquely EV their pokemon to do things that are unexpected. Even though you can see Item, Moveset, and Tera Type, OTS allows for skill expression and diversity as players can better plan and showcase their skill as there are less random surprises from both parties, and EVs/IVs allow for players to uniquely build their pokemon to their needs. Unorthodox teams still work BECAUSE they're unorthodox. Wolfey's 2023 Orlando Regional Perish Trap team and Joseph Ugarte's Sun Team with Jumpluff from the 2023 Portland Regional are good examples of this.

@HeliumHasPassed 4 ай бұрын

Smeargle lost the dawg in him

@NEET_DG201 4 ай бұрын

bring back old dark void and old moody

@HeliumHasPassed 4 ай бұрын

@@NEET_DG201 no, don’t

@NEET_DG201 4 ай бұрын

@@HeliumHasPassed as a rebuttal; funny

@Michael-sy9wt 4 ай бұрын

@@NEET_DG201vaild

@bluebaron6811 4 ай бұрын

He lost dat beagle in 'im. Press F to pay respects for our fallen amigo.

@samm6950 4 ай бұрын

Moody activated and lowered that dawg in him 😢

@maestrotritone5975 4 ай бұрын

The one time we thank Urshifu for existing to be a hard counter to Smeargle.

@mysticpumpkin8520 4 ай бұрын

The way meta went from dawg to cats and bears is a very interesting development

@maestrotritone5975 4 ай бұрын

@@mysticpumpkin8520 I miss the catfish days

@greenuvlight 4 ай бұрын

Yea I also wish whiscash was viable @@maestrotritone5975

@pokeinator7834 4 ай бұрын

@@maestrotritone5975fr dozo was just fun,unless it was a mirror match

@supermariomaker1734 4 ай бұрын

Urshifu personally is my favorite Pokémon to use in ranked battle because it guaranteed to kill most opponents with one move and it goes through protect due to its ability unseen fist which makes great for doubles especially when dynamax is the only way to protect yourself which is now removed due to terestalization.

@Oiram20 4 ай бұрын

Despite Smeargle having made numerous anime appearances ever since the original series, episode 66 (Smashing with Sketch!) of Pokemon Sun and Moon marks the first time in the anime when a Smeargle is seen using it's signature move Sketch. I wonder if maybe we'll see a Smeargle in Pokemon Horizons use Sketch, but in a Pokemon battle?

@Arktic06 4 ай бұрын

Smeargle, the king of frauds, shrunk back in fear

@ericshun3926 4 ай бұрын

And Incineroar said: "Stand Proud Smergale, you are strong"

@rootbeeraddict4885 4 ай бұрын

@@ericshun3926 "Sketch proud Smeargle, you are mid!"

@n0ame1u1 4 ай бұрын

The brainrot is leaking

@___horizon___252 4 ай бұрын

Smeargle is why Darkrai is OU 😞

@RealiztikVGC 4 ай бұрын

I think Smeargle is just in an awkward place with the format being OTS, since it doesn’t have that surprise factor (that you mentioned in the section w/ decorate) it makes it difficult to pull off its gimmicks. I think whenever the Global Challenges show up though, it’s gonna be a different ball game. During that I think decorate and follow me is gonna go crazy. I’m excited to see

@Kasaaz 4 ай бұрын

People underestimate how much worse Moody is without the ability to boost Smeargle's evasion.

@Yinyanyeow 2 ай бұрын

@@KasaazI consider it one of the dumb nerfs next to Para nerf, the hate to Aegislash, and the protean nerf. (Had to edit due to spell check.)

@Kasaaz 2 ай бұрын

@@Yinyanyeow They should probably have just redesigned the entire Moody ability instead of just taping part of it away.

@Yinyanyeow 2 ай бұрын

@@Kasaaz True.

@GASA1997 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, open team sheets was the final nail in the coffin… And his stats were all of the other nails.

@mistercrusher5108 4 ай бұрын

Smeargle mugged Darkrai and left him for dead in the alley.

@groudon3672 4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately upper hand is like sucker punch in that it only works on attacking moves. Specifically, upper hand works on “physical or special moves with a priority from +1 to +3.” So nope, it’s not a tornadus counter.

@stunt647 4 ай бұрын

The only Mon I see using upper hand effectively is someone like Blaziken that can be fast and is resistant to fake out users like incineroar or rillaboom (and I run clear amulet to dodge intimidate) If they don’t click fake out or grassy glide it fails but then I get a boost to temper flare.

@DarkBlueSharpieKnight 4 ай бұрын

its still a nice fake out stopper tho,

@cyanconure 4 ай бұрын

@@stunt647I’ve been using it on Okidogi to great success

@cyberrb25 4 ай бұрын

I still believe you should do it so Dark Void gets 50 Accuracy, but gets like +15 from Bad Dream ability (so Darkrai is viable). And you move Spore to 85 Accuracy, but for Grass-types, it becomes 100 Accuracy (not unlike Toxic). This way, Smeargle becomes useless with those moves, all while making everyone else not bad.

@butlershurk7227 4 ай бұрын

Tera Grass Smeargle?

@damianiscringe1082 4 ай бұрын

Tera bad dreams smeargle?

@butlershurk7227 4 ай бұрын

@@damianiscringe1082 Tera darkrai smeargle?

@adityapshetty8653 4 ай бұрын

Tera spore Darkrai?

@grrgrrgrr0202 4 ай бұрын

A 50% accurate Dark Void would still be toxic on Smeargle. Making Dark Void not available on Smeargle at all was a good call.

@joshuavgc4160 4 ай бұрын

I was using transform, spore, decorate (to self transform into my boosted ally from decorate) and protect. I'd never use it, except on ladder 😅

@mcsmileycorp 4 ай бұрын

I've been having mediocre success using burning bulwark with a tera dark smeargle to block prankster encores and taunts, it sucks having to give up your tera for it, but sometimes giving it up is worth it for a clutch spore.

@DCBiscuit 4 ай бұрын

I think the fact that I feel bad for SMEARGLE of all Pokémon should show how devastating power creep has become. Edit: I understand that it’s not fully power creep that’s removing Smeargle from higher play, it’s the open sheets. But for the sake of not having an extra paragraph (like I apparently should have had from the start) I shortened the whole thing down to just “power creep.” Shut up.

@manelneedsaname1773 4 ай бұрын

It's not power creep, it's open teem sheets

@DCBiscuit 4 ай бұрын

@@manelneedsaname1773 Or, you know, both.

@Ilikebugs2464 4 ай бұрын

250 bst

@Justic_ 4 ай бұрын

@@DCBiscuit y'know, that feels more like a case where you would say it "fell off". There being other Pokemon that perform specialized roles Smeargle could perform before just as well if not better wasn't completely enough to bring it down, it also took them to change the rules so your opponent couldn't get blindsided by any of the potential sets and moves it could run, which on the other hand wouldn't have been as effective in banishing Smeargle if it wasn't for other Pokemon filling its roles.

@ThePika78 4 ай бұрын

Defo not powercreep, just people now being able to know what set its running and not guessing between all of the infinite move combination that he has access to. Not feeling a bit bad for Smeargle usage dropping to 0, and it's more than deserved for what he did to Dark Void.

@MitchBurns 4 ай бұрын

What about running court change? It’s a really good move. The main problem is it’s only on Cinderace who really doesn’t want to run it.

@thedrurose 4 ай бұрын

No dark void no paint dog! That’s the nerf we needed back in gen 4.

@typemasters2871 4 ай бұрын

Smeargle is an infinite trick pony Unfortunately it’s like comparing an actor to any type of professional, an actor can perfectly replicate the actions of a professional but the professional is still a better fit for the task at hand

@a-s-greig 4 ай бұрын

Unless, of course, you happen to be looking for a professional actor.

@iancastro1327 4 ай бұрын

Yeah it was weird not seeing him now i know why Also the dragon cheer smeargle makes me think about the focus energy scope lems hydreigon

@Prince_Echo 4 ай бұрын

havent fully watched the video, but to add another point just in case: theres SO MANY GOOD SUPPORTS NOW. if you type 2-4 support moves into showdown that you want you'll almost always find a better mon to use compared to smeargle. we have so many redirectors, prankster mons with an entire dictionaries worth of different moves and bulkier mons with better abilities that set them apart and also having better stats and more desirable typing. youd only use smeargle if you want an excuse to use smeargle since its so weighed down by every part of itself that isn't its moveset.

@Slushea 4 ай бұрын

I love how a paint dog broke everything

@ricardoludwig4787 4 ай бұрын

I also think speed creep was a massive deal, before it would have many more targets it outsped unboosted and could more easily get its shannanigans started, now the only pokemon it outspeeds in the current top 10 usage is incineroar

@carnifexzer0 4 ай бұрын

Calling it early, but I think we're gonna see a HUGE amount of Smeargle at Blueberry Prologue

@ItsTheLegendOfZelda 4 ай бұрын

I was initially scared of revival blessing becoming Smeargle’s new dark void but then thankfully it didn’t get it

@Ghostmnm 4 ай бұрын

Smeargle is the reason Darkrai was run into the ground, no longer sees play, and (outside of Legends Arkoos) Darkrai didn’t get the Nerfs (placed because of smeargle) reversed

@EggscellentTree 4 ай бұрын

Now in singles when darkrai dropped to OU , people think hypnosis is broken now xD

@totorules7972 4 ай бұрын

@@EggscellentTreefr like how are people complaining about something that’s been available since gen 1 now 😂

@hansdykstra3869 3 ай бұрын

7:05 Smeargle hits chien-pao with moon blast: “oh no, anyway”

@Connowot387 4 ай бұрын

It’s me, Connor! The one with H-Electrode from the local! Smeargle has been my public enemy Number One for a long time, and this makes me happy.

@Siscon92 4 ай бұрын

The thing about Smeargle is that it’s flexibility will make it still always viable on the right team. It’s just not oppressive anymore. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see it win some tournaments still

@finalGambitShedinja 4 ай бұрын

252 Smeargle CloseCombat vs Chien-Pao: 132-156 (85.1 - 100.6%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

@ixchel3330 2 ай бұрын

What about High Jump Kick?

@euanthompson 4 ай бұрын

It is interesting that the thing that hurts it most isn't a change in any game mechanics, but the change in tournament format.

@SmeargleRocks 4 ай бұрын

If you play without open team sheet this set has been working for me in VGC F Jolly Moody Focus Sash Upper Hand Spore Burning bullwark Decorate With Roaring Moon Adamant Booster Crunch Dragon Claw Tailwind Acrobatics Tera Flying

@WalkinStereotype 4 ай бұрын

From what I’ve read, Prankster doesn’t count as priority moves for Quick Guard or Upper Hand, GameFreak dropped the ball there for unique tech

@mysticpumpkin8520 4 ай бұрын

Well, thats because upper hand and quick guard are for damaging priority moves Its says it on the description and all

@jackk.4670 4 ай бұрын

18:20 Btw Upper Hand has +3 priority so it will always go first vs a Fake Out, so checking speed tiers is irrelevant here. However the big downside is that it doesn't work against priority status moves, so even with it's huge plus priority it can't block a tailwind.

@ixchel3330 2 ай бұрын

Fake out is also +3

@andrewg.3281 4 ай бұрын

Those cowards should have gave him revival blessing

@apeckx5090 4 ай бұрын

My first Reg F team had Smeargle. I lead it with whimsicot and had urshifu and gholdengo in the back. Spore in tailwind was dope and moody plus baton pass instead of follow me was soooo clutch. Depending on what offensive boost you get you can pass into urshifu or gholdengo. Also had incineroar and raging bolt on the team

@btt2701 4 ай бұрын

Question, have you ever thought about making videos about your tournaments? I'd love to see an overview video about how you did in Portland for example!

@amysticmind2645 4 ай бұрын

Absolutely love the Jamal Smith "whack" reference. "The way he doesn't even like to smile, whack!"

@Mepphy99 4 ай бұрын

i really Hope It stays that way

@supermariomaker1734 4 ай бұрын

I love this KZfaq channel it’s pretty good it’s entertaining and educational.

@CapitalGames84 4 ай бұрын

Imagine if smeargle had prankster

@cringeivore3769 4 ай бұрын

Sableye and Meowstic have skill swap so it could be given Prankster

@SkellyBobRoss 4 ай бұрын

I like the dragon cheer idea. Sounds fun

@manatacoandmeeep8935 4 ай бұрын

I had an idea using doodle smeargle and regigigas but replaced it with grafaiai because it was just faster support after losing its ability

@russellw6872 4 ай бұрын

Video: I don't know why Smeargle has been good. Maybe it's because it learns literally every move in the game. Me automatically: But that's just a theory. A GAME theory.

@jamesolson6544 4 ай бұрын

Too soon

@russellw6872 4 ай бұрын

@@jamesolson6544 I found out after making this post.

@ITAndroMedian 4 ай бұрын

I'd rework Dark Void by making it unwieldy: revert accuracy to the original level of 80, but make it affect every Pokemon on the field, including the user's ally AND the user. The catch: Pokemon with Bad Dreams passive ability aren't affected specifically by Dark Void's induced sleep.

@bobjob2514 4 ай бұрын

Smeargle was good when movepools were 15 moves or less. These days, every single poke gets all sorts of coverage and support options. e.g. Pikachu used to be limited to electric and normal. Then it got iron tail, surf, fly, and so on until it even got a fairy move in the dlc. And all the signature moves are getting spread around like candy on halloween. Why do we NEED poor smeagol anymore?

@itztaytay2 4 ай бұрын

Not to undermine your point but Pikachu has learned surf since gen 1

@bobjob2514 4 ай бұрын

@@itztaytay2 yellow?

@itztaytay2 4 ай бұрын

@@bobjob2514 Stadium Tutor, so kinda a technicality

@bobjob2514 4 ай бұрын

@@itztaytay2 That’s really neat though!

@VoidLegendAura 4 ай бұрын

Smeargle is just like darkrai, there not himmothy no more

@carlton5381 4 ай бұрын

I did silk trap as my protect option, only bc I have violet and no access to burning bulwark :'(

@ndog_100 4 ай бұрын

I think people just haven't explored smeargle in gen 9 enough for us to really know how good it is

@sirmrman1 4 ай бұрын

Smeargle should get a new evo, make it based on slow offense so it can use a lot more of its moveset

@Alpha-1812 4 ай бұрын

I feel Smeargle will make a come back when the restricted come back and you can use transform to sort of get another restricted on your team.

@leonardohernandezcabrera7541 4 ай бұрын

I think other reason that caused its fall is some Pokémon now can ignore protect moves specially Urshifu surging strikes are multihit so Focus sash is useless.

@decidueye98 4 ай бұрын

Do you think Decorate + Foul Play on Smeargle would make it more viable? 🤔

@furiouscorgi6614 4 ай бұрын

Aren't you usually better off with Swagger for that, since it inflicts Confusion and doesn't boost SpA just in case you get KO'd before Foul Play?

@mysticpumpkin8520 4 ай бұрын

@@furiouscorgi6614i think they mean decorate an ally and foul play for damage.

@furiouscorgi6614 4 ай бұрын

@@mysticpumpkin8520 you're still really frail, so you're probably only getting one move off, Alcremie is far bulkier and has better defensive typing and OTS means they know what to expect

@erinrose1037 4 ай бұрын

Upper Hand is +3 priority vs Prankster status moves only being +1, right? So you don’t need speed to use it against Torn/Whim.

@stevepierce227 4 ай бұрын

Upper Hand only works on damaging priority moves.

@thod-thod 4 ай бұрын

Upper hand should be priority +4

@King_Of_Games 4 ай бұрын

Can someone tell me how you got revival blessing on him I’ve been trying my best and I cannot figure it out

@andrewzoich 4 ай бұрын

Upper hand has +3 priority and only works on physical and special moves, so it can't stop prankster mons from pranking

@Justic_ 4 ай бұрын

y'know what'd be really funny? If Smeargle falling off is gonna open the path for it finally receiving something new, namely an evolution, which has a chance of immediately dominating the meta again, unless they give it some ability to inhibit its potential, like its own version of Mycelium Might.

@pedroromarhernandez6554 4 ай бұрын

When every support is an amazing support then no one would be

@PandamaticBreakcore 4 ай бұрын

It was bound to happen eventually as more and more pokemon are added because of 2 factors. 1)Most of the rare moves with limited distribution are attacks, and smeargle doesn't have the stats to attack. 2)As you get more pokemon, you have more sets of stats with more variety in move distribution, which will just lock smeargle out of the competition.

@commonpepe2270 4 ай бұрын

Revival Blessing on Smeargle would be insanely busted in restricted formats.

@dragonslayerj1088 4 ай бұрын

Game freak watching this video be like: What are you saying? That we give Smeargle prankster and make him a pseudo legendary?

@oxishimaruxo 4 ай бұрын

I dunno I've been getting some rage quits with the old Lock On Sheer Cold combo

@Regiultima 4 ай бұрын

Upper Hand does not work on Status moves. It cannot stop a Prankster Taunt or Tailwind.

@alextintyrn291 4 ай бұрын

Turns out a pokemon that relied on a broken move to paper over its godawful stats becomes pretty bad if you take that move away

@mysticpumpkin8520 4 ай бұрын

This is the part where somehow smeargle does a huge comback similar to how Amongus did after Ogerpom suppostly "kill" it right? Idk, after what happened with mr Sussy Baka, I am expecting anything at this point😅

@telacrap 4 ай бұрын

The return of Double Kick Terrakion was truly the final nail in Smeargle's coffin

@rpgkingx3629 4 ай бұрын

I haven’t played vgc until this generation, so I didn’t know what it felt like to play against the REAL Smeargle. And now that it’s in the game, I don’t really have enough matches against it to form an opinion on it

@TechHug 4 ай бұрын

Basically, movesets have gotten so good that you need more than just a great moveset to be good.

@aaronolson6736 4 ай бұрын

Imagine the shakeup that would happen if Smeargle ended up evolving

@chonksmaster 4 ай бұрын

Where was Brian in the ad😢

@ellyjockey6164 3 ай бұрын

I don't know the exact science on upper hand, but shouldn't tornadus not get flinched by upper hand if tornadus runs covert cloak? Wouldn't it be the same reason as fake out?

@ajfrommillay3766 4 ай бұрын

I fought against a Smeargle in a ranked match today and it was just confusing. I mean it used Spore but not before I took away most of its HP with an attack. Then turn two it used Belly Drum, which failed because it was in red health, LOL. Then turn three it used Shell Smash. Finally I woke up and killed it after that. Belly Drum AND Shell Smash on the same set? Interesting.

@MikeSharpeWriter 4 ай бұрын

Has the breeding/move learning changes limited the use of Smergle in team building?

@corporalkills 4 ай бұрын

The smeargles I’ve fought did nothing but annoy the shit out of me for 40 turns then still died and lost the match

@cameronturner8087 4 ай бұрын

This might be no duh but it also can't get the torque moves (team star bases boss moves(

@VileKnight4 4 ай бұрын

I've been praying for smeargle's downfall 🙏

@Metica777 4 ай бұрын

I didn’t even realize smeargle was in the game. I thought they’d never bring him back.

@DeadmanPauli 4 ай бұрын

Smeargle and an Evolution would be nice... Did forget how Bad his Status are

@DnDandVideoGames 4 ай бұрын

Smergle... spike shield or the new paradox entei shield move?

@Allen-qs2xr 4 ай бұрын

"Minor chance of (Smeargle) living a resisted hit." .. hol' up

@ParkerVGC 4 ай бұрын

Upper hand doesn't work that way. I found out during a tourney run when my Raichu became significantly less good.

@spyxpd3943 4 ай бұрын

What happened to scizor? It’s in the game right

@derpygamer0279 4 ай бұрын

I think at face value this reduces ALOT of 50/50s with the tera type stuff

@snare97 4 ай бұрын

This is the pinnacle of content. Just dunking on Smeargle for 20 minutes.

@BlazingK9-uv6wx 4 ай бұрын

Smeargle deserve this. Especially after what he did to Darkrai.

@nautilus2612 4 ай бұрын

Blame the player, not the tool

@YoshiKing9999 4 ай бұрын

Right as I’m training up a smeargle lol

@wilhelmtan5301 4 ай бұрын

Wait til restricted format to see if he will be used a lot

@thadeusperson4425 4 ай бұрын

Good. All GameFreak had to do is to make only Darkrai the only one to learn Dark Void (not nerf it to oblivion)

@jongarrish7834 4 ай бұрын

Salt cure slept on move for him😊

@Hachishaku-Sama 4 ай бұрын

Me who uses Smeargle with Burning Bulwark: 🤫

@agentblackbird9435 4 ай бұрын

At least now I can say I like Smeargle because it looks silly

@tobiookuma1835 4 ай бұрын

Smeargle only gets better as things around it get stronger. When restricted formats come up, it'll be one of the only wide guard users in a meta full of Groudon, Kyogre, and calyrex shadow