@@sidhantjasrotia7079you prolly forgot to take your meds again
@hurricane_slash Жыл бұрын
“Very poor choice of words”
@finnileinchen Жыл бұрын
Made it 69 likes. : ) plis no like no more, thankk: )
@swellow5994 Жыл бұрын
best wishes to NA, it sucks where there is literally only 1 region fighting for s-tier trophies. i want to feel real intercontinental rivalry
@jamieeddolls5605 Жыл бұрын
EU has a shit ton of countries man
@naga5707 Жыл бұрын
It's not Valorant is it, the game where all three region has a chance to win Majors this year
@lol-fs9rr Жыл бұрын
NA is still the 3rd/2nd best region in the game if asia and the australian/new zealand scene popped of that would be cool 2
@brocksinclair66 Жыл бұрын
try being Australian 😂 you na boys got it easy
@cheese41103 Жыл бұрын
@@brocksinclair66I’m not Australian, but I agree. Being in NA myself, I would say that NA will never get back to where it was in CS, and I think the main reason is the majority player base’s mentality. They throw tantrums and their ego is huge even though their skill level doesn’t match 🤣
@andrewcoleman7708 Жыл бұрын
As a young American cs player, the most approachable way to play structured team cs is absolutely collegiate. There's a lot of undeveloped talent in collegiate. Young prodigies don't find the spotlights (NA opens, streaming, locals) they once could so they either wait for the growing collegiate infrastructure or play Valorant. NA collegiate teams take big inspiration from modern European cs, the scene needs more eyes and motivation.
@oslodapig5239 Жыл бұрын
The fact that a handful of collegiate teams have made advanced is proof they are capable. With some of these programs being completely student led.
@christian-me1qh Жыл бұрын
@@oslodapig5239I would love to see collegiate esports take off like this. Just like how some college football players make it to the pro level, esports can operate similarly. The infrastructure is definitely there
@normalhuman6260 Жыл бұрын
idk about Toronto but if Lau hosts a CS2 LAN in Bangalore or Mumbai, I am running in with my keyboard strapped to my chest.
@s0meRand0m129 Жыл бұрын
*que Optic India flashback*
@pablonescafebar6043 Жыл бұрын
Running in anywhere with something strapped to your chest is kinda dangerous 😬💥
@normalhuman6260 Жыл бұрын
@@s0meRand0m129 Real PTSD
@MrPreachingCarrot Жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to see what type of deals teams will go for if Valve really start cracking down on gambling sites. I think these sites really prop up a lot of teams (g2 as an example) and I'd be curious to see how much money orgs are willing to spend on players without that backing.
@cosmic_sailor Жыл бұрын
They'd just have to get more sponsors that pay lower.
@MrPreachingCarrot Жыл бұрын
@@cosmic_sailor It's not that simple IMO. lets take Jeffs latest video, he was offered 180k a month and he is a YTer with 780k subs. Some of these orgs are spread across several games so they'll be fine, however lesser orgs I'd assume would struggle. ITB have just secured hellcase as a sponsor which I assume is good money but getting 'more sponsors' isn't an easy task. If one site is offering 180k a month i can only imagine what a team could make in a year, however getting 5 sponsors might not even make a dent on what these gambling sites would offer.
@cosmic_sailor Жыл бұрын
@@MrPreachingCarrot well yeah, but the rates these illicit gambling sites are paying are super inflated, the market will adjust itself. It's also likely that more legit sponsors will enter the scene if these scummy businesses are weeded out because a) they are bad PR and b) their offers are too big to be matched by anyone else. On top of that, you still have business that bring huge profits, such as betting sites and casinos who don't use Valve's IP (some of them make enough to run their own org, see: 1WIN and BetBoom), so there will be sponsors with deep pockets regardless.
@joegrogan6503 Жыл бұрын
@@cosmic_sailorwhy wouldnt they just get other sponsors that pay 2x as much ? 🤔
@thatcooldudeisawesome876 Жыл бұрын
Why would valve crack down they get some much money from it.
@benigempi Жыл бұрын
One aspect that might also play into this if CS2 is released in the upcoming months is that Riot are really messing up the Tier 2 scene in Valorant. There is nothing to play for in the next 6 months, which is why almost all of the orgs in NA Challengers (Tier 2) dropped their rosters.
@PurpleAngel8261 Жыл бұрын
Very good point this 👏
@zackkhan1199 Жыл бұрын
Personally I believe it will be because the GOAT igl will come to NA for a last dance, and pass on his knowledge to us underlings, cementing his legacy of greatness. Just need to find a way to convince karrigan to do it!
@iamgroot3615 Жыл бұрын
karrigan≠🐐IGL
@zackkhan1199 Жыл бұрын
@@iamgroot3615 you make an excellent case. Fine, seangares > karrigan.
@brah007 Жыл бұрын
hopefully you're right lau, we need a strong NA as well... or at least decent.
@launders Жыл бұрын
we gotta put in effort! but we can :D
@marumi808 Жыл бұрын
On the topic, I would like to see growth for this game in Asia. In countries like Japan, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan. To me, if CS reaches that level, it truly is going to feel like global, biggest esports game in the world. And also because events over there would be something new and interesting
@xenoclix Жыл бұрын
Dont forget in Australia....i would live to have a Asia/Oceanic league/tournaments that if done well in them can qualify for a world tournament etc. Aust in esport just sucks, gaming just sucks. We just have all these people who just play public games and not really care much else.
@marumi808 Жыл бұрын
@@xenoclix I know about it. But still theres so much potential in East Asia. And we have not had anything there. Its not like they dont play FPS games or games in general. Why is Valve or organisers so afraid?
@ThatsAmore123 Жыл бұрын
That's what Valorant has over CSGO, it has a bigger international reach because of how the tournament circuit is formatted where all the regions have their own leagues and the fact that Riot gives slots to regions like Japan, Korea, and APAC for the international events. Too bad Valve is not able to help sustain those regions for CSGO
@shimuthedoggo4496 Жыл бұрын
I hope to god we get a NA team that can compete against EU at a serious level. MAKE CLOUD 9 GREAT AGAIN!
@fenrirx481 Жыл бұрын
C9 is has CIS players only 🗿
@bubbles13244 Жыл бұрын
C9 has the best roster they have ever had
@dukeoftheholyromanempire2738 Жыл бұрын
cloud9 has a better roster than ever rn and its a CIS roster only because NA just can't compete at this point
@noahzelkin2352 Жыл бұрын
Siege caught a stray 😭
@launders Жыл бұрын
siege is good i’m sorry! i respect that game 100
@noahzelkin2352 Жыл бұрын
@@launders the pro scene is not in a great spot though, that much is accurate. I played Challenger League (Tier 2) R6 for a season and have played T3 for half a decade, and the viewership is definitely on a downswing as players realize they aren’t ever going to get the salaries which were once normal.
@vokuhila6913 Жыл бұрын
we need brax unbanned on cs2
@wagagagaggag Жыл бұрын
Waiting for skin prices to rise after CS2
@moddudlar3894 Жыл бұрын
i sold my house to buy paris capsules
@joshwick8357 Жыл бұрын
would love to see history of fps esports with like CS, siege, overwatch etc
@thapiehero Жыл бұрын
I was playing semi pro OW back in 2016 and just applying for sponsors was such a chore. Placements didn’t matter as much as stream numbers and Twitter followers. I’m hoping when it comes to CS2 young talent can rise in NA without having to chase clout.
@mchxnry3658 Жыл бұрын
A Cs2 Toronto lan would be a dream come true
@launders Жыл бұрын
september!
@HuehuehueEsBest Жыл бұрын
I agree that people will come back and NA will get bigger than it is currently, but I can't see it outcompeting EU in that regard.
@CR0WYT Жыл бұрын
Part of the reason why CS will blow up in NA is because of the rise of PC gaming in North America. During my high school years (2015-2019), the culture of PC gaming, Counter-Strike, and esports as a whole was basically non existent. Everyone I knew was either playing Fortnite or FIFA on their consoles. None of them even knew you could play AAA games on PCs let alone know about CS:GO and their reputation for selling out stadiums. When I graduated and the global pandemic hit, everyone gave PC gaming a chance and stuck to it, but by then, Valorant was the game to introduce them to tactical shooters, not CS, which is why NA talent in Valorant is quadruple the amount of CS' NA talent. With CS2 being advertised as a new Counter-Strike, it can bring in new players and talent from those that never gave CS a shot prior.
@launders Жыл бұрын
cool perspective! thanks
@triplespace00710 ай бұрын
I've thought for a while that it's dumb that players get insane salary's that can bite them in the ass later. Prime example: Yay. He tried CSGO, got a few opportunities, tried Valorant, performed well then next thing you know he's unable to compete cause no one can afford them. Pro players should have a set salary in my opinion. If you want more money, that's where tournament wins and streaming comes into play.
@jaheim1872 Жыл бұрын
Lau works for valve confirmed "we selled 10million cases in June"
@launders Жыл бұрын
i’m simping!!
@robertmartorana25029 ай бұрын
following the sydney final, you were 100% right, goddam do complexity look really good. Also shoutout to liquid.
@CS2dAVE Жыл бұрын
awesome video dude! great points about NA CS, and can't wait for more local LAN's :D
@bruh.j4mes Жыл бұрын
2:24 soon you'll be considered old if you remember old NiP or Dig logos
@Dummythxc Жыл бұрын
100!! I have been saying cs2 is going to be huge for na but cs in general. Ive been in since day 1 dust 2 and the amount of updates and speed of them has been astonishing.
@-sorta11 ай бұрын
considering how great NA has been in valorant its super possible
@Bergly Жыл бұрын
Desperately trying to reach lvl 10 faceit before cs2
@launders Жыл бұрын
gl brota
@ethanblack5642 Жыл бұрын
3:27 I make jokes like this all the time and this had me busting up I comment to help statistics
@kingbrownie207 Жыл бұрын
10/10 would play in a Toronto LAN. I may only be good as bait, but my brother would totally farm. Want him to have a chance to make some $ in CS
@Hi.Im.Andrew Жыл бұрын
I clicked for the copium, stayed for the content
@vxlentino Жыл бұрын
yea bro my uncle used to play it lol we had a big conversation about it it was so fun
@R1kduv Жыл бұрын
i personally have been only giving good words about cs2. But a lot of people in the community hate that it is happening. think they will understand when the game been out for a while that it was a good change
@tamtamxxx2854 Жыл бұрын
You feel good with game ?
@R1kduv Жыл бұрын
@@tamtamxxx2854 i always am good 😀
@Waff3n Жыл бұрын
I haven't really seen any negativity in the scene over CS2. Except from people complaining about bugs (in a beta) and people like myself who whine about not getting beta access. Seems to me that 99% of the playerbase is hyped
@shmid9823 Жыл бұрын
Wish I was still back in the GTA, posted out in Quebec but I'd totally hit up the local lan for cs
@RussianScythe Жыл бұрын
This is a very well thought out video. Already recommended it to my friends.
@sotiris6656 Жыл бұрын
i'm already happy to see steel back to cs go,i just hold this tiny hope cs2 will finally lift the ban for the IBP players
@genz8520 Жыл бұрын
I was watching this high and let me just say your background is mad trippy, HAVE YOU EVER PLAYED RUGBY???
@funkmasterkirk Жыл бұрын
The biggest issue with a lot of other games at the moment is the ULT economy.... Apex / Overwatch / Valorant, all rely on an ULT economy that I'm completely burned out on.
@e6o Жыл бұрын
Fun vid Lau. Also I see dat 48% growth from 100k. CS mirroring
@kiyu_u6009 Жыл бұрын
This p2w thing is a problem in the premier league. Like look at Man U. Bought Maguire for like 80 mil and now they can't sell him.
@nik_mik Жыл бұрын
dude i just got into cs cuz of valorant. got a pc in 2021 to play it lol. so mad i was on console for decades, but just hit immortal and LEM so im feelin good😎 cant wait for cs2.
@spowbits3696 Жыл бұрын
"you know much money that is? thats well over 40 dollars" hahaha
@evilemil Жыл бұрын
How is he casting while uploading a video, this man is something else
@nomidu8417 Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that every video I've seen addressing CS2's release never touch on in my opinion the primary reason why CS2 may not do as well as you think. The MASSIVE necessity for an invasive effective onboard anti-cheat. The lack of an effective anti-cheat has completely plagued the game. Any serious players who want a safe cheater free environment is impelled to use 3rd party MM systems such as faceit or ESEA. 11 years of CSGO, it's actually quite amazing how popular the game is considering how bad the matchmaking is compared to other contemporary games (a tribute to how great counterstrike is, that people are willing to risk wasting their time to match against a cheater just to play the game). I really hope Valve implements something on par with Valorant's AC - that's the first step. Then an elo MM system to allow players to see progress on a ladder and strive towards improvement (valorant, dota 2, leaderboards for example). Players who are PUG-stars in dota 2 have been picked up by professional orgs dozens of times. This has never been a reality in csgo's MM system, because csgo's MM system and the rampart cheater issue has been addressed quite poorly by valve. If the CS community is still urged to play faceit to avoid cheaters in MM that would be a huge missed opportunity for the growth of CS2 and NA CS in general.
@dark3rthanshadows Жыл бұрын
1:15 nah Valorant isn't a CS killer but it's totally TOTALLY different from Apex,Overwatch etc etc, in fact already establish themselves in the gaming industry , i feel like both will trive very well, and the "upperedge" of Valorant it's having that vibe that gets the attention of non CS players
@Muccii7775 ай бұрын
not aging well at all
@ryomathekillers7421 Жыл бұрын
Siege doesn’t even get a mention for a potential csgo killer, it’s so over for siege bros
@ArunKumar-bp5lo Жыл бұрын
when cs2 will come video suggestion : why i jinxed na cs will blow up
@rayxts Жыл бұрын
you hosting some toronto local lans would be dope!
@philiposten2803 Жыл бұрын
When is it actually coming out? Summer almost over
@m1lkbags Жыл бұрын
Copium suuuureeely our scene will come back with cs2. (I really hope it does)
@Chand3mic Жыл бұрын
thank you for this Launders :) WE WILL RISE!!!!!
@nartouthere Жыл бұрын
HERE FOR NA CS
@PhilipJasionowski Жыл бұрын
You think that we'll ever get a major in Toronto?? Or any event...
@Thecrazytoco Жыл бұрын
All it’ll take I think (prevideo) is a well supported in game match making system. The alternate matchmaking sites suck for NA
@itsnesogaming3217 Жыл бұрын
I hope people in NA play more CSGO. Its the best game bruh.
@Hornnnnnn Жыл бұрын
4:38 TSM OMEGALUL
@CrimsonKeesh Жыл бұрын
any chance you'll ever rerelease those shirts, i got the mudman one but the humankind shirt looks so good too. happy with whatever u do with boxr tho.
@launders Жыл бұрын
those two are my faves.. we might!
@PkPvre Жыл бұрын
@@laundersStill waiting for the "koi" to comeback.
@lono1596 Жыл бұрын
god im so inspired
@zergbong Жыл бұрын
my friend. THose 300 people in Valve, most of them are not devs, or coders or anything like that. They manage outsourced teams that are contracted to produce the SW. Also they are not 300, they are a LOT MORE.
@HatsuneShumka Жыл бұрын
Always have hope for na cs guys
@TreddyCS Жыл бұрын
Switched from Val with the announcement of cs2! Never tried before because I’m NA and my friends had convinced me it was a dead game..
@launders Жыл бұрын
they didn’t want you to find this gem!!
@kimi_au Жыл бұрын
Why did I laugh at that joke at 3:27 fml Banger vid as always Launders
@JoyThiefTheBand Жыл бұрын
BRO, TORONTO LAN?!?!? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. I will 1000000000% be there!
@JoyThiefTheBand Жыл бұрын
I'mma comment a second time to say I'm gunna bring my kids and force my old CS friends to go. Toronto used to have the best LAN scene for CS and LoL but it died and I've never stopped missing it. Please run a LAN in Toronto. I would even love to help set some up in Hamilton.
@vsc3455 Жыл бұрын
@@JoyThiefTheBandGTA people have been starving for a LAN! We need this
@launders Жыл бұрын
september stay tuned!
@JoyThiefTheBand Жыл бұрын
@@launders Just throwing it out there, if you need volunteers please ask, I will be willing to help in any way I can.
@austin6876 Жыл бұрын
great video as always, keep it up!
@bipedalapproximation Жыл бұрын
"spaghetti code from a non AAA dev, not nearly as an intelligent company as we have with valve" i sincerely hope that sentence is ironic
@benshorthouse2979 Жыл бұрын
I think optic has alresdy said its coming back as well i could be wrong
@b3to653 Жыл бұрын
Yeah hecz and hastro said they are interested in cs2 with the right roster
@Hidious10 Жыл бұрын
Jeeez Lau, you are something else. Everything you said sounds...reasonable and true. I'm one of those guys who played de_prodigy back in the day and have been watching the scene ever since; the teams really make for some great unpredictable matches in 2023, I love it. It reminds me of hockey, the greatest sport of all: no superstar can make you win, this is a team sport. Anyway, if you ever start an official tournament and have trouble with finding staff, I'm there. Should I write and official or anything?
@ThatGuyBasher Жыл бұрын
been loving the content!
@launders Жыл бұрын
thank you! 10 mins of na cs propaganda
@KytexEdits Жыл бұрын
In the words of Jack Black: YOU CAN'T KILL THE CS:GO, the CS:GO will live on! New games tried to destroy the CS:GO, but the CS:GO had it's wayyyyyyyyy! Yeah!
@TheCuke Жыл бұрын
Lau called it years ago. cs Is THE best and the most polished shooter.
@humegoon_6817 Жыл бұрын
great video my man
@enso8762 Жыл бұрын
Even my 50+ year old aunt knows counter strike
@bemindful9286 Жыл бұрын
Why isnt there a player association to protect players from these bigger orgs and the vulture tactics that they use?
@AK-pure Жыл бұрын
Jiggle peek and that bronze deco look good
@twofu967 Жыл бұрын
run that lan bro we believe
@FRANANGELICOONA Жыл бұрын
Im in Dallas
@redw0lf848 Жыл бұрын
In Valve We Trust
@diprosomr0y Жыл бұрын
To fellow NAs, u guys have got so much......from infrastructure to mindset etc.....hope u realize that.....keep the esport alive from an Indian
@Cons-hh5ef5 ай бұрын
overwatch came out before pubg and fortnite and also i dont really think it was a threat to cs, more focused on the moba aspect
@jaykera Жыл бұрын
I had 62 in a faceit pug yesterday I got us
@Oscylot885 ай бұрын
Digital vibrance is still necessary imo
@bobjohnson6515 Жыл бұрын
Maybe this is entering tin-foil hat territory but I'm under the impression that Nerd Street signed some sort of exclusivity clause when they began hosting events for RIot. Fragadelphia coming back remains to be seen
@DevynPlaysGames Жыл бұрын
EG fielding 3 teams at once just proves how cheap an NA CS team is right now. EG's entire main roster (autimatic's inflated salary included) probably costs less than like monesy or niko's buyout (as an example)
@emircs2442 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it is cheap tbh Here in Asia and some EU cs players get $500-800 salary per month and that's very very cheap
@ccrriiss1 Жыл бұрын
With how gatekept the NA scene is I don't know if it will but I can only hope so.
@amaanbaweja7233 Жыл бұрын
The u of t cs community would love launders run lan events ❤️
@ZachDxn Жыл бұрын
Toronto LANs baby I'm ready
@angus5427 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned TSM as a "super org" but where is their spot in CS? Right now, I just can't see it. Unless they try and revitalise FaZe? But thats paying their way in rather than finding the gap.
@launders Жыл бұрын
they’re a super org because of how much money they have
@thearbiter3369 Жыл бұрын
Valorant players will keep telling you cs is dying. But they waste more money on skins than ohne gave away
@__Nicholas__ Жыл бұрын
we can coexist with apex legends ONLY once they remove controller aimbot
@abinari Жыл бұрын
i need IEM SAN JOSE
@Karti200 Жыл бұрын
No - it will not 20 years of NA scene proven that it won’t change now
@Ansee7 Жыл бұрын
why did you remove your rising stars video, please re-upload
@launders Жыл бұрын
which one was that D:
@Ansee7 Жыл бұрын
@@launders I'm embarrassed, my apologies it was a Natosaphix video. I don't know why I was convinced you made the video. (p.s. maybe do a similar video but for rising talent that will flourish in cs2?)
@stayhome4626 Жыл бұрын
What NA has is the US dollar , a special thanks to George Washington , JP Morgan and JR Oppenheimer :)
@uhorecka174 Жыл бұрын
40 dollars for virtual cases a month for starting small indie company is sick, I wish them luck!
@hopey1809 Жыл бұрын
Wait until you see what happens to the Dragon Lore ;)
@thug588 Жыл бұрын
valve needs to add more casual modes than 10v10 with a bunch of silent weirdos on dogshit maps
@zxcxzxc Жыл бұрын
I just came back to CS at the start of the year after a long hiatus from ~2019 to 2022. NA CSGO community used to be so amazing, I really miss personalities like moe 😂 need more copium for the dream of NA winning a CS2 major
@_KT5 Жыл бұрын
mOE still uploads, and still rages
@buddhapest Жыл бұрын
there should be caps for orgs...
@stevk0_- Жыл бұрын
Yes, all of this will happen for sure. And then all of the upcoming talents will start streaming instead.
@mylesG23 Жыл бұрын
The problem with NA is, always has been and always will be our player’s attitudes. Everyone has the ego of Andrew Ttate but is a little cry baby bitch at the same time and it completely stunts team’s potential to grow. These kids lose 1 main match and the entire team implodes because someone said “hey you missed that flash and blinded me”. The problem with the players now is they can dish it out but can’t take it. NA has always been very in your face and vocal but most of the players now get criticized for mistakes then take to Twitter and cry that someone was being mean to them, but turn around and act the same or worse. This will probably never change. I predict late 2015-2017 all over again for CS2. All these NA teams will get picked up and then have zero results to show for the money dumped in and 1 by 1 the orgs will start backing out again.