I appreciate you distinguishing early PoE devs to current devs, because there's clearly been ashift there and people don't talk about it as much.

Grim Dawn one of the best ARPG haha... It sucks balls

what did they take from grim dawn, Grim dawn is my favourite arpg ever!!

It's the perfect timing. Elden Ring DLC is a couple weeks old now. Both PoE and D4 have updates coming up but they're not out yet. These guys know when to time a release :D

so much damn games to play recently. Palworld update, elden ring, last epoch, and also once human.. ahhhhhhhhh and not enough time for me

I hate season in all games it just seems they do season because they really are lazy. when the season ends it all goes to a non season. Majority of the time you're character rocks in season but move over it no longer rocks because they adjust anything that was op or removed items that made it happen!

Almost seems like seasons are made for the game to feel fresh, with new content anď other stuff to do because if everyone has a max character the game is dead... Huh

Everything. EVERYTHING you do in Last Epoch cycles you can do in Legacy mode, no differences whatsoever! Only differnce is that you need to start fresh on a cycle character, but contentwise it''s 100% same game on or offline, cycle or legacy. And that is what I love about LE!!

Played yesterday and today ,didnt have any que and no kicks from the game

Damn I didn't even think about how melee would feel

if only it didn't rubberband you regularly even on offline...

Tbh I hope all the Arpgs become great as it's great to have more to play every season.

@@barrymacdonald3439 Yeah, there is always a point in those games, where spending your time elsewhere is more wisely, even if that just means another arpg.

we gotta give it like 5-10 yrs for it to truly blossom even when it's good rn, that's what it took for poe to truly shine.. Honestly it's not even that complicated, once these games pump content consistently over time, they just become awesome with so much shit to do.. Poe did it, warframe did it, and a couple other successful live services. It's about them staying consistent in terms of content and always listening to their playerbase(though this might be bad to do sometimes)

i mean i feel like no one knows that there is a roadmap and 1.1 was announced 1 month after 1.0 just google last epoch roadmap

I agree with ya... I want everyone to have a chance to play this game

Now you know how PC players feel about Playstation. Did you have this same energy when God of War Ragnarök or FF7 Rebirth came out on PS5? Lol

They're a smaller indie dev team. I doubt they have any ambitions for a console port any time soon. Also, do you really need that good of a PC? I mean the whole game is like 20 gigs. It's not like a massive 150 gig AAA game that requires a 4090 like Cyberpunk. You can also turn down the graphics.

@@1_underthesunas an Xbox and PlayStation I believe all games should be everywhere

no its not... get a pc. get a steam deck! you will save SO MUCH MONEY in the long term.

Hi folks, nice to meet u here :P

They have a Hammerdin? 😮 OMG…. I’m sold! 😂

And once it launches on console

The issue with LE is precisely what you mentioned. It has a lot of good things going for it, the systems are incredibly intricate and well made, but they forgot to actually make a compelling game on top of that.

@@TheCooderix D4 is exactly as you described.

It only released on PC in February this year, before that was early access. No idea if it’s coming to console but I doubt it tbh, outside of PoE or Diablo I don’t know many arpgs like this that do

@@crash_jj yeah I’m aware of the release date I’ve been following the game for years. They were in beta letting people play since 2018 that’s along time to just be releasing the game in Feb. of 2024. They will also be leaving a lot of money on the table and excluding a massive fan base by not going to console.

@@crash_jjthat’s why those will be always be the biggest

Get a PC noob

They want the game to be more stable and complete on PC before they release it on console. I wouldn't expect a console release anytime soon.

Not yet, but the devs do want to add them eventually.

That's my problem with it. Even d2 feels more visceral than LE. At this point I'm holding out for PoE2

@@laconsuela69 Right. I could play LE, but it's not a must play like how PoE2 looks so far. No hate, just honest feelings and probably burned out from D4 S4 and need a change of genre.

My question too. A lot of stuttering at end game. They filled the patch with other updates but hid this issue under the rug. Also, combat isn't as robust as D4's where it feels more floaty. I know both games have their issues lol where each lack the other's strength leading to both feeling mid. My hope now is PoE2 having both strengths.

I agree. I hate it. lol

Are you talking about items? If so, you can make a loot filter and increase the font size, color, etc of every item. If not, I think there was a setting to increase the UI size. My bro had the same problem, but we somehow increased it. I'll have to ask him what we did because we were just clicking on random stuff lol.

@@erk8520 It's been a little bit since I tried it so I don't recall if it was only on items or otherwise. If you find out anything let me know, I think I returned the game because I had suck trouble with it on my first try. Thanks for the reply!

​@@kinjiru731no prob! I'll test it out when I get off work

@@erk8520 Just got home from work, myself and it turns out I didn't return the game even though have almost no time on it because of this issue. So... an example is the text explaining each setting in Settings. It's gray text on a black background and very small, so hard to read. I don't see a UI scale option unless I missed it, though I do see the loot filter in there.

There is an easy fix to your problem - play on a ridiculously large TV. I'm being dead serious, and honestly in the days of end stage capitalism you can prolly grab a 60" TCL with decent enough specs for like $400.

That's one thing that makes not want to play PoE.

It is called a seasonal game

It kind of is. Only 26 percent of original players came back on day 1?

yeah,, the gear grind is retarded. there's zero excitement for drops. getting a wf or ber rune feels great. absolutely nothing like that in le.

Diablo 4 made me want to go to sleep.

Not really haha, the combat and death animation of monsters are so behind D4. And that is like why most of people play arpg - to kill monsters and feel good about it. LE sucks at this part.

​@@danielkolar799 Yeah the combat animations are pretty dated in comparison to diablo 4 but it's still good though I enjoy the crafting in LE and I will play a sorc today as D4 sorcs sucks

@@Grayald You should try it again . Season 3 and 4 really lifted the game to new heights. It's so much better now.

Depends on what the patch brought. I hated last epoch as it had no end game past farm boring rifts. It looks like there is more to do in the mono system though so getting better as long as there is more than a pent boss

And still not even the first to comment. Better uninstall the Internet.

Congrats! Big fucking deal!

Considering it’s a small company, I would say it’s somehow good

some seasons will be bigger in release numbers than normal. For example this last league path of exile had the worst retention ever. It's far better to look at the numbers after one year compared to the previous year, not cycle to cycle.

If we're being realistic, LE is not going to be reaching the numbers it saw at launch again anytime soon. LE was overly hyped on launch with many major ARPG and non-ARPG content creators covering it, which would have pushed it into the spotlight for a lot of players who never intended to come back for the seasons or who would never have stuck with the game long term. Maybe a year or two down the road when the game has a lot more content behind it, it could see numbers similar to what it saw at launch, but it's just not happening for the first season since launch. Regardless, I think we need to wait until the weekend for the true peak. If I remember right, the game launched at a similar time to when this season started, ie early in the week, and it didn't hit its peak until the weekend. Granted the first week was plagued with horrendous server problems so a lot of people probably were just like "fuck it, I'm just gonna wait until the weekend, I can't deal with this shit right now", but if I remember right the game only managed an ~150-180k peak during the week, then gradually rose to the ~280k all time peak it currently has over the weekend. Fairly certain we'll see the peak for this new season go up on the weekend.

Should of bought a PC

@@StrongArmEntertainmentfor 10X the price

@@StrongArmEntertainment meh, console is more my speed. Played both for years but it's just easier to play on console. Especially growing up with snes and n64. Easier to play on my 72" TV with console too. Plus game pass through Xbox is pretty awesome. Not to mention collecting consoles is way better than collecting computers.

I agree, though at the same time it's like: LE makes me wanna play all these builds, but D4 makes me actually play all these builds. LE has one of the worst campaigns in ARPGs, whereas D4 is the most pick-up and play friendly games on the market. If we could skip the story in LE, I imagine the player concurrency numbers would shoot through the roof.

Pretty much. The only thing that's currently exclusive to online cycle characters is the new pinnacle boss, which is going to be added to offline shortly. The idea was to lock the new pinnacle boss to online cycle characters to make boss progression more fair across the board, and eventually unlock it for legacy and offline characters once the boss was killed by an online cycle character for the first time, or a week passes without a kill. Well, the boss has already been killed and the devs were going to unlock it for legacy and offline characters in the most recent patch, but there was an issue so it's currently still locked until they sort that out. Aside from the pinnacle boss, offline gets the exact same content as online.

You have to reset the controller settings apparently to do it.

@@Venvaneless ok thanks I’ll try that

Yep, new act is scheduled for the next big patch, 1.2.

@@blackomega34 thanks. maybe I'll just wait till then.

Your 1 has been removed. Should do more research

Also regarding #2, where are you getting that data? I used to play a Rive DK with some leech and could literally just stand there and face tank most mechanics.

All of these games have boss scaling, even if it is cleverly hidden. How exactly do you propose to design a game without it? Also, let's be honest - it is the hours we play between bosses where the dopamine drip functions best.

It is planned for PS5 at least so I assume all consoles in the end, but it's a small company and they want to establish it on PC first. But it will come.