Why obvious lies make great propaganda

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For leaders like Trump and Putin, telling big lies isn't about persuasion -- it's about power.
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At first glance, US President Donald Trump and Russian leader Vladimir Putin seem to have wildly different communication styles. But what they share is a tendency to repeat big, obvious lies -- a tactic researchers have dubbed the “firehose of falsehood.” Whether it’s lying about Russian troops in Crimea or falsely claiming millions of people voted illegally during the 2016 election, both leaders demonstrate a kind of shamelessness when it comes to telling and retelling big lies. And that’s because firehosing isn’t actually about persuasion. It’s about power.
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@diego898 5 жыл бұрын

"The point of modern propaganda isn't only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth." - Garry Kasparov

@celinak5062 5 жыл бұрын

@aklar_45 5 жыл бұрын

Amen

@mickmoon6887 5 жыл бұрын

Tbh rationalising the unrational things(chaos) are not very time effective and brain would just assume to take easier way to do that the result is to mix them up for a clear picture but this picture may be incorrect , partly true

@juanfernandez1696 5 жыл бұрын

Actions are louder than words. If you spot a liar don't wastes your time engaging with them and move on.

@neelmatches512 5 жыл бұрын

Yup, look at how the left in Universities just shut down any alternative thought.

@oceanusprocellarum6853 4 жыл бұрын

"There's nothing as humiliating or disempowering as trying to prove the truth" I feel that one so much

@user-cd1vg8le7f 4 жыл бұрын

@c101vp 4 жыл бұрын

Relatable

@DaveE99 4 жыл бұрын

λ-Φ Rypht Φ-λ Toxic personalities and the will to power are core parts of human nature that will never go away. I think we need to push to make our elections and debates into less about candidates and more about edicating about our democracy and what is holding it back. This would be an excellent thing for them to show

@deli5194 4 жыл бұрын

I want this as a poster. It really is exhausting living in this state.

@wangchung6910 4 жыл бұрын

Dina Karimi me too!

@NeovanGoth 2 жыл бұрын

Three years later: Putin launches a obvious large scale invasion on whole Ukraine and _still_ denies it. It's a horror-show.

@henkkahenrik4183 2 жыл бұрын

And its an age old tactic. Especially when they denied the bombings. Really reminded me of the whole molotovs "bread basket" ordeal during winter war where he said the bombs dropped in Finland were just "airlifting food aid", which actually was how we ended up naming molotov's cocktails, you know, as a drink to go with their "bread baskets". After all, it only is good manners to thank the guy for his kindness with some gifts in return. XD

@jorge69696 2 жыл бұрын

And Trump publicly sided with Putin and said the same should be done to Mexico. Unbelivable.

@not_noah69 2 жыл бұрын

@@jorge69696 trump ain't wrong on this one

@nakelekantoo 2 жыл бұрын

@@not_noah69 are you high?

@not_noah69 2 жыл бұрын

@@nakelekantoo nah

@names305 3 жыл бұрын

"There is no war in Ba Sing Se"

@wattsnottaken1 3 жыл бұрын

names305 here you are SaFe

@chesspiece4257 3 жыл бұрын

O.O

@cheezenip2737 3 жыл бұрын

So if you don't have the physical resources or knowledge to prove or disprove something that a highly successful person says, the highly successful person must always be correct. By default, being successful means you are always correct according to observers who are not as successful.

@andins761 3 жыл бұрын

lol

@caliyaabdi1385 3 жыл бұрын

Someone had to say it!! nice one!

@sashahawkes365 5 жыл бұрын

You can say that vox is biased but you cant say their content is untrue

@Domepeezy 4 жыл бұрын

Sasha Hawkes bingo and that’s what a lot of people don’t realize is that you be honest and report on the situation and report the honest truth regardless of Democrat or Republican.

@Noah-ir4is 4 жыл бұрын

eggs

@ArchOwl 4 жыл бұрын

Blox Executive Ah yes, your great point. Too great to share it with us, in fact.

@oceanusprocellarum6853 4 жыл бұрын

@@Noah-ir4is Ah yes your bigly point. Coincidentally, I also see all the evidence that you have laid out for me that Vox is lying. SO much evidence. Yuge evidence, believe me.

@peacefulsandwich2825 4 жыл бұрын

@@Noah-ir4is Ah yes, the egg of truth. So eggy that it must be kept away from everyone.

@silvervixen007 5 жыл бұрын

"Whoever has objectively more power owns reality" Damn.

@independentael 4 жыл бұрын

It has always been like that. History is not written by the defeated but by the victorious.

@Jaypeemedia 4 жыл бұрын

“Reality can be whatever I want”

@amireinav1 4 жыл бұрын

silvervixen007 1984

@DaydreamsAllDay 4 жыл бұрын

Power is an illusion that a foolish person believes in, power does not bend reality, power is objective, reliant on many pieces working for you rather than against, money only matters if people care about money, to depend on the world for power is to condemn yourself to inevitable destruction, there are far too many examples of this (Caesar, Stalin, Hitler, Alexander the great, any leader that has been assassinated, the rise and fall of major industries, and even the fall of countries), the most powerful people in history have ultimately died and have had their image twisted and corrupted for another mans agenda. The only way to obtain true power is to live forever, for eternity, to be almighty, al powerful, and even then, our flaws will be our destruction. Only a perfect state can bring everlasting power, every other form is a desperate lie to what they already know.

@DIO-hn2sh 4 жыл бұрын

Tobie Neese That is where I, kono DIO, come in.

@rajadhirajmaharaj 4 жыл бұрын

*"The ultimate goal of fire hosing isn't to pass off lies as truth. It's to rob concepts, like facts and reality, of their power."*

@DmitryKiktenko 3 жыл бұрын

what could be a counterstrike to this behavior?

@redwastaken3363 3 жыл бұрын

"orwellian" - characteristic of the writings of George Orwell, especially with reference to his dystopian account of a future totalitarian state in Nineteen Eighty-Four

@lootic 2 жыл бұрын

@@DmitryKiktenko Satire, cause satire generally is very good at showing just how ludicrous something is

@nmplab 2 жыл бұрын

Hits home too hard. (I live in the Philippines.)

@niellamallabo6078 2 жыл бұрын

@@nmplab really hits home

@mechinman 4 жыл бұрын

“Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.” ― George Orwell, 1984

@reese9705 4 жыл бұрын

“War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength”

@myidentityisamystery5142 4 жыл бұрын

Then I’m a doublethinker

@ryanjonathanmartin3933 3 жыл бұрын

He was a great writer

@gabrielarchange4680 3 жыл бұрын

? DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH ?

@user-bv6db2js3e 3 жыл бұрын

It’s the era we have been living for all human history.

@ElleKelsheimer 5 жыл бұрын

Positively Orwellian. "War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength."

@pedrobambinoperez2572 4 жыл бұрын

Elle Kelsheimer ignorance can indeed be strength

@tanszism 4 жыл бұрын

War will result in peace Freedom inevitably leads to slavery Ignorance of consequences or the ability to lie without it eating you from the inside is indeed a strength.

@denniscordovez3948 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's how orwell really hates socialism/collectivism. He made book about how oppressive it is.

@ashevillecat 4 жыл бұрын

@@denniscordovez3948 "I have seen wonderful things and at last really believe in Socialism, which I never did before." - George Orwell But he was a staunch anti-Stalinist.

@ashevillecat 4 жыл бұрын

@@tanszism Well, that was how the people of Oceania understood it. But in reality, the motto War is Peace indicates how having a shared enemy unites the people of Oceania and helps them remain united and on a common course. Freedom in Oceania means the freedom to do and think what the Party wants without deviating from their rules and regulations. Finally, it is only through ignorance that people can find the strength to live in a totalitarian society where the government oppresses them even while communicating to them how fortunate they are. If these totalitarian ideals are strengths, then why do totalitarian regimes tend to be short-lived? North Korea is the only one to have lasted longer than 50 years and most don't even make it to 20 years.

@MrCal2648 5 жыл бұрын

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -1984

@tristiancapozzi1194 5 жыл бұрын

"The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power... We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. " -also 1984

@Udontkno7 5 жыл бұрын

Tea

@langerthree3013 5 жыл бұрын

CaptainHappen I recently read that book again after hearing that quote from Trump ("Don't believe what you ..."). It's strikingly similar to the book. What makes it so disturbing that Trump supporters accepted that from him is that they believe that in doing so, they're actually rebelling against authority. Slavery is freedom.

@gabrocki 5 жыл бұрын

This sentence describes the Democrats so perfectly. Orwell was truly ahead of his time.

@MrCal2648 5 жыл бұрын

gabrocki I take it you didn’t watch the video.

@yumaychang 3 жыл бұрын

In psychology this is called gaslighting. It’s what abusers do to victims to rob them of reality and make the victim easy to control. The victim no longer trust their own reality, and often end up unconditionally accepting what the abuser says.

@lucask4330 3 жыл бұрын

I think it also has to do with creating apathy. When it feels like everything may be untrue, you stop caring.

@bensoncheung2801 3 жыл бұрын

The cumulative effects of this is especially devastating when it's being caused by the president of the United States!

@lrizzard 2 жыл бұрын

good point, it definitely worked for me in my country. i barely have any hope next thing you know i may not even vote.

@aaronthenorm5400 Жыл бұрын

@@bensoncheung2801 What an idiotic attempt at deflection! Eh comonrade?!

@donq7121 5 жыл бұрын

“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.” ― George Orwell, 1984

@Quintinohthree 5 жыл бұрын

You've clearly never read the book if you think 1984 is a title and not just a year.

@akizeta 5 жыл бұрын

Why would you think someone quoting from the book wouldn't be writing "1984" as the title of the book the quote came from rather than a date? Like, do you believe the rest of the world isn't as smart as you?

@Quintinohthree 5 жыл бұрын

@@akizeta 1984 is not the title of a book by George Orwell, but Nineteen Eighty-Four is. I didn't think I'd have to spell this out. I thought I was pretty clear that I understood 1984 was meant as a title, even though it is presented as a year and no book by that title was authored by George Orwell. Now if I had understood 1984 to be the year that Orwell said the quote, I would have certainly commented that Orwell died well before.

@numeitor7075 5 жыл бұрын

Quintinohthree The movie was titled “1984” and most editions of the book have been stylized as such. Grow up.

@thegodemperors45thlegionof41 5 жыл бұрын

Power is doing that to black and minorities in the demoRATic party.

@SARGEHALO666v2 5 жыл бұрын

We’ve always been at war with Oceania.

@AbraminWonderland 5 жыл бұрын

This is so scary.

@FinalSentinel 5 жыл бұрын

We've always been at war with Afghanistan

@MikhailKalashnikovMiG 5 жыл бұрын

The second Oceanic-Atlantic War was the worst war in human history

@jimmyprueter5489 5 жыл бұрын

well Australia lost a war to emus

@christopherwilson88 5 жыл бұрын

How many lights do you see?

@FredGlt 3 жыл бұрын

For four years I’ve watched American politics, for four years I tried to piece it up together, try to understand the full situation. I had all the pieces of the puzzle, but I just couldn’t find the reason *why* they made so many lies and link it to the consequences. Now, everything fits, everything makes again. This video teaches us something no one should be ignorant of.

@AyCe 2 жыл бұрын

It needs to be taught, to everyone. I hear way too many people claiming that truth and objective reality don't exist.

@FredGlt 2 жыл бұрын

@@AyCe it particularly annoys me when people say that. Funnily enough, we discussed this very claim in my philosophy class not so long ago and the professor explained to us how it was a contradiction. I believe this quote best summarizes it : “If the only truth is that there is no truth, then the truth that nothing is true cannot be true”. In other words, there is truth. Only, people don't make the distinction between reality and what is perceived, interpreted and opinionated of it.

@FredGlt 2 жыл бұрын

@@Paonporteur well, there's that, but also because until 2016, I wasn't old enough to really understand politics.

@MAJORp121 4 жыл бұрын

The "hitting yourself" bit is perfect. The symptom of that makes you feel like being in the Twilight Zone.

@virginiatyree6705 4 жыл бұрын

3 19 20 Hey WolvesTM, I feel as though it's the s**t-show BIZZARO World nightmare that I'm unable to wake-up from. Oh, I can't because it's "real-life"! Stay & be well. v

@kimjongfun5427 5 жыл бұрын

*_'Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.'_* --- *George Carlin*

@divdpino 5 жыл бұрын

That's not technically correct. The median is the number that tells you that half of the population are above and below that number.... but it's a great line anyway :)

@horseradish843 5 жыл бұрын

Dont think it gets dumber than being named Kim Jong fun

@nineteenthly 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, depends on whether one's referring to mean, median or mode.

@chengong388 5 жыл бұрын

Yes but surely, I am better than average

@nineteenthly 5 жыл бұрын

Whereas I see the North Korean leaders as appalling excuses for human beings, thousands of years of history have turned up some at least equally evil people, like Genghis Khan, Vlad the Impaler, Stalin and Hitler.

@alexgee3111 4 жыл бұрын

gaslighting on like a national scale

@Funkojazzist 3 жыл бұрын

by democrats. Yo)

@trashbank6148 3 жыл бұрын

@@Funkojazzist Source?

@owenkeller2748 3 жыл бұрын

Dems are the ones trying to cancel everyone. So it’s the dems. Not the Rs

@Funkojazzist 3 жыл бұрын

@@trashbank6148 real life.

@cheezenip2737 3 жыл бұрын

@bhavesh_khatnani 4 жыл бұрын

"There is no good and evil. Only power and those too weak to seek it." - Voldemort.

@wattsnottaken1 3 жыл бұрын

Bhavesh Khatnani not everyone wants power. I’d take peace and prosperity over power anyday

@bhavesh_khatnani 3 жыл бұрын

@@wattsnottaken1 so would I :D

@emilypomerant5592 3 жыл бұрын

the fact that at first, i thought that it was a trump quote and that if it was, it kinda would have made sense is bad

@crisproductions336 3 жыл бұрын

@@wattsnottaken1 me too

@OmarAhmed-sn7zp 3 жыл бұрын

@@wattsnottaken1 You can never have peace and prosperity without power. Power creates that. Power creates fear of doing bad things that will go against peace and prosperity. Power is behind *everything*.

@CableB_ 2 жыл бұрын

To quote George Orwell “Ignorance is Strength” but to make it easier for everyone to understand “[Our] ignorance is [their] strength”

@minitumen 5 жыл бұрын

The book "1984" is most famous for the surveillance and cameras everywhere and stuff, but the most important and alarming aspect of Ingsoc (the totalitarian-like government of the book) is the destroying of objective reality with manipulation of language and substituting it with a new one that sustains he government's power. The most terrifying tool the Party has for this is "doublethink": the ability to simultaneously believe two contradictory concepts at the same time. So it goes: You can't know reality outside the mind. Therefore, our thoughts determine reality (at the very least inside our heads). And finally, if the government can manipulate our minds to believing everything they say, no matter how ludicrous the lies are, they are actually MANIPULATING REALITY with doublethink. It may seem that maybe George Orwell, the author, goes a little too far with the idea, but you can see how close he was with this real-life tactic and that it can really work. I just wanted to draw some parallels from this cautionary book.

@DhampirParadox 5 жыл бұрын

I feel like this book should be compulsory reading in the USA.

@jasminehouston-burns1691 5 жыл бұрын

I screenshot your comment so that I can review it later, thank you.

@minitumen 5 жыл бұрын

Please do. Thank *you*

@stephensybert3237 5 жыл бұрын

Read this book at the beginning of the Trump presidency. It has literally been a crash course guide to Trump’s political strategy. Scary to think about.

@RoccoRyg 5 жыл бұрын

2+2=5. I will keep zapping you until you believe it.

@1.4142 5 жыл бұрын

“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.” ― George Orwell, 1984

@martinconneally8756 5 жыл бұрын

What about he who controls the comments?

@lakeman1966 5 жыл бұрын

^^ lol

@DavidAllen-px7gr 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@aurus7245 5 жыл бұрын

He who controls the comments, controls nothing of value.

@kangbowo 5 жыл бұрын

Now testify!

@anitaschafer567 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, gaslighting on a national scale. That's scary.

@haddydm 2 жыл бұрын

Me watching this now with a Ukrainian invasion 400% worse.

@usul573 2 жыл бұрын

Most blatantly Orwellian thing ever.

@adamrfu1929 Жыл бұрын

Here's the thing: Russia lie, U.S./WEST lie, so what's the different ?? U.S. LIE FOR GOOD ?? Wow Rand Corporation: Have close relation to the PENTAGON.

@mikenoakes5036 5 жыл бұрын

Ukraine: "Hey! That's OUR peninsula!" Putin: "You never had a peninsula."

@gigachad-jh1dh 4 жыл бұрын

mike noakes it makes sense

@gigachad-jh1dh 4 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Figgins make sense

@gigachad-jh1dh 4 жыл бұрын

Young Alek makes SeNSe

@ccr_enjoyer 4 жыл бұрын

@@youngalek4434 1. It's not about history, it's about violating international laws and your obligations 2. Crimea belonged to Crimean khanate, which was run by Crimean tatars,they always were a close geopolitical neighbor for Ukrainian states (Hetmanshyna, Ukrainian Cossacks), sometimes they sided with Ukrainians in wars against Russia (for example when Ukrainian Cossack Pylyp Orlyk was in power in 18th century) 3. Ukraine as a republic conquered and had Crimea as it's territory before 1954 (Crimean operation 1918) 4. We can get back to the period of Rus/Ruthenia (also an ancestor of Ukraine) which also had influence on Crimea

@ccr_enjoyer 4 жыл бұрын

@@youngalek4434 we also can mention the fact that Crimea was massively populated by Russians while Crimeans have been deported which is significant

@GREENSP0RE 5 жыл бұрын

Firehosing is like high speed gaslighting. It's so gross.

@davidelias13 4 жыл бұрын

I'm much more experienced with gaslighting not so much with firehosing but it seems that firehosing IS high speed gaslighting, not like.

@user-em7ig3lk7l 3 жыл бұрын

Donald Trump would make a horrible impostor in among us

@aryanraval3294 3 жыл бұрын

Or a great one who knows

@hilmao7344 3 жыл бұрын

“I was scanning in electrical, tremendous scanner great scanner”

@maceuniverse4125 3 жыл бұрын

@@hilmao7344 "The best scanning I have ever scanned."

@gmb4648 3 жыл бұрын

@@hilmao7344 "Everyone knows, I am the greatest scanner. Tremendous. Everyone says so."

@squiddler7731 3 жыл бұрын

Nah, he'd make an amazing imposter. If you watch him talk he's constantly deflecting and changing the subject, taking control of the conversation to divert it towards his own lies and away from anything that might incriminate him. And if you need any evidence that it's still working, just check the newest comments on this video.

@wattsnottaken1 3 жыл бұрын

“The bigger the lie, the more likely people will believe it.” - Makarov

@bensoncheung2801 3 жыл бұрын

42 likes

@oiuii 3 жыл бұрын

@@bensoncheung2801 44 likes

@bensoncheung2801 3 жыл бұрын

Yes,

@bensoncheung2801 3 жыл бұрын

And 4 comments. (Ain't natural, but it's definitely kind of funny)

@rezwittkerchester2055 3 жыл бұрын

John 3:16-17 KJV "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."

@EaZiiDuzzIt105 5 жыл бұрын

Sooooo in other words........gaslighting on steroids.

@AikiraBeats 5 жыл бұрын

Pretty much

@pendejo6466 5 жыл бұрын

And it's working, because the press is exhausted.

@BG-ge6vn 5 жыл бұрын

No, there's a sophisticated term for that - "trolling" 😁

@markthomas6794 5 жыл бұрын

But it's been a useful exercise because we're all beginning to identify what's happening here. If we know what's going on we can protect ourselves. Simplifying these ideas into digestible terms like 'firehosing' will help spread awareness of this tactic. I think that for most people the Putin/Trump approach feels so incomprehensible that it's nearly impossible to square with reality. It's such a departure from how most people approach human interaction that it's relentlessly infuriating. I personally feel that we're finally starting to see it as a tactic, and that's how we start to deal with it. This video was a great summary. And at the end of the day I think the nation will get through this. It's a new challenge, but we'll figure it out.

@mBUSHattack 5 жыл бұрын

@@pendejo6466 They're not the only ones who are exhausted.

@Madeline-Cano 5 жыл бұрын

*There is no war is Ba Sing Sei*

@52flyingbicycles 5 жыл бұрын

Here we are safe. Here we are free.

@anonymousperson9735 5 жыл бұрын

Someone stole this and used it on the collusion video. This is the correct way of using it! 😂👏🏾👍🏽

@iagohauchi3694 5 жыл бұрын

Good one! Avatar has the best life lessons! :)

@redtpc8194 4 жыл бұрын

Hi, my name is ju dee!

@welp4576 4 жыл бұрын

I agree

@jacwongyt 2 жыл бұрын

This ages well

@bigsmall246 2 жыл бұрын

I've always automatically assumed everything Trump or Putin says is a lie until someone credible says it's not a lie.

@shadowyzephyr Жыл бұрын

You shouldn't assume anything. That it's a lie or not a lie.

@researchmichael7859 Жыл бұрын

Is that "someone credible" a morning tv host or a late night comedian?

@erik9420 Жыл бұрын

I love this strategy!

@thomy1955 11 ай бұрын

Who judges who is "credible" and who isn't?

@jasonbrown467 5 ай бұрын

how many things has putin lied about? personally i always saw trump as a good salesman that will some times stick his foot in his mouth and do so proudly and putin as a guy who is simply trying to look out for struggling russia, even if it means facing off with the western empire currently ran by the usa

@NewMessage 5 жыл бұрын

The idea is to get you to stop questioning critically.. if you accept, OR dismiss out of hand.. they've done their job. It's about stopping that nasty habit of thinking.

@pendejo6466 5 жыл бұрын

The media created Trump, and he gave them a show: now they're having buyers remorse?

@RoccoRyg 5 жыл бұрын

The whole point of "the big lie" is the basis that most people can't comprehend that anyone would lie so big. If you tell small lies, people will know it, but say something so outrageously false, and people will think, "Why would he say that and expect me to believe it? Maybe he's telling the truth."

@kingslushie1018 5 жыл бұрын

Rocco Ryg hmmm, interesting point

@nartinnecromancer3683 4 жыл бұрын

To be fair, "most" of the people know it is a lie. Either they have a particular interest in that ideology or they are reaping the advantages from those lies. So, they keep quiet to maintain status quo instead of giving up their advantage for the truth.

@emmanueloluga9770 4 жыл бұрын

@@nartinnecromancer3683 its a shitstorm lol

@marshallsweatherhiking1820 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think its that with the voter fraud allegation. The point is the person making the claim has the easy job. The people who have to refute it have to do more work. Its similar to the claim that the far side of the moon is made of cheese. Making the claim is easy. Debunking takes more effort.

@Harsh-tf9he 2 жыл бұрын

reverse reverse psychology

@zagreus5773 2 жыл бұрын

"Russia was essentially invading a country they were saying they were not going to invade" I don't know, this sounds hard to believe.

@E-A-Z-Y 5 жыл бұрын

*YOU NEVER HAD A SANDWICH* 😤

@lunari64_ 5 жыл бұрын

SANDWICHES DON'T EXIST, YOU DON'T EXIST!

@LisaNarozhnykh 5 жыл бұрын

PFFFF, IDIOT, THINKING SANDWICHES EXIST. BETTER LISTEN TO ME! I WOULD NEVER STEAL A NON-EXISTENT THING. FOOL.

@MrChadwke 5 жыл бұрын

Looks like Trump is just another slimey politician. He's definitely not draining the swamp. He pulled the bait and switch, just like Stalin. Thankfully there are many democrat House and Senate nominees that are willing to drain the swamp.

@billheughan637 5 жыл бұрын

NO SANDWICH! NO SANDWICH! YOU'RE A SANDWICH!

@tsheposeanego5582 5 жыл бұрын

Broooooo. I was mind blown for a full minute

@vohkaru131 5 жыл бұрын

The fundamental problem is that people prioritize tribalism over honesty. Truth is almost always going to be secondary when the main goal is to make your side look good, and the other side look bad. ...But of course, only the other side does that, not mine.

@Honking_Goose 5 жыл бұрын

Life is Sour Then you are not a populist its populism which creates these lies both right and left, then both right and left use each other as a constant negative feedback loop to create a victim complex and an enemy for each side. The problem is those that are not populist simply are not loud enough to break through the constant crying of the populists

@Mike_Deng 5 жыл бұрын

It's unfortunate.

@elisarich7107 5 жыл бұрын

It’s been “Party over Policy”

@SpectatorAlius 4 жыл бұрын

The example of the bully asking "why are you hitting yourself" is perfect! Better than perfect! It is not only an example that we all know, but it illustrates all the points so well!

@dracotitanfall 4 жыл бұрын

Orwell literally warned us about this in 1984

@mime514 3 жыл бұрын

I've commented the same

@mime514 3 жыл бұрын

That book came out _50_ years ago. It scared generations of humans. It made us keep an eye open on what the heck we are told.

@mime514 3 жыл бұрын

But if we dont listen , and if we dont fight for our freedom... our world would become even more hellish than what is described there 😔

@dejesusrussell 3 жыл бұрын

2 + 2 = 5

@REEEPROGRAM 3 жыл бұрын

Oh and i wish this won't happen anytime soon

@appletree6898 5 жыл бұрын

Gaslighting on a global scale.

@lucasc611 5 жыл бұрын

The same thing is occurring in Brazil's presidential election, unfortunately we have someone infinitely worse than Trump called Bolsonaro.

@paulocarvalho108 5 жыл бұрын

Essa desgraça vai ganhar em primeiro turno.

@mesomelas1467 5 жыл бұрын

Bolsonaro is going to save Brazil from socialist poverty. You people are psychopaths.

@lucasc611 5 жыл бұрын

roth bard pelo seu discurso dá pra perceber que você é da leva de pessoas que se informam apenas pelo facebook, whatsapp e youtube. Assimila o discurso de ódio e põe a culpa de todo mal existente na esquerda, tente ir além do que os outros vos falam e pense por si só. Psicopata é o tipo de pessoa como você e os demais alienados que não conseguem ver o mundo de forma empática e escolhem proliferar o discurso de ódio que representa Bolsonaro.

@deejayrbf 5 жыл бұрын

Eu vi esse video e me lembrei automaticamente do Bolsonaro. Acredito tática dele e equipe não seja tão efetiva quanto a de Trump e Putin, mas certamente vai pelo mesmo caminho. Inclusive, o filho dele se encontrou com um dos mentores da campanha de Trump. Tempos sombrios estão por vir.

@anacarol_lenz 5 жыл бұрын

Eu amei que o vídeo tem legenda em português, bora fazer nossa parte... compartilhar ao máximo essas informações!

@WagonWheel-hg9cw 3 жыл бұрын

“Truth isn’t truth” hmmmm, you’re sounding dangerously Orwellian there Guliani

@Allin7days 3 жыл бұрын

You've left out a critical aspect of the “firehose of falsehood.” Why do some of us see through it and how we can have the rest of us, or the majority at least, see that too. This must be the single most important goal of the current generation. God help us.

@minty9003 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe because the majority of us is still confused as to what is the truth. We are confused as to who we are and why we are here. If we all know the truth, then the world would see what are lies and what is the truth. The truth is that there is no separation between us. We are all one. When we see we are all one, we will see that we wronged ourselves and feel pain of all the wronged. Being citizens of a country is an illusion. We are all connected and it’s obvious. This pandemic is proof we are all connected. An invention from one person can affect millions, billions, of people like a computer or a car. When we stop giving power to separation, then we will find empathy and we will take away the powers of people who uses separation against us. We will work towards the light, out of awareness that we were in the dark. It is not me versus the world. We are the world.

@pooplenepe59 3 жыл бұрын

It seems like the firehose of faleshood depends on only some people believing the lies/not all the lies being believed. Gullible people and authoritarians believe the lies, people with two brain cells to rub together and a modicum of conscience aren't swept in but are still left looking weak and feeling humiliated. It's a win-win scenario, until reality catches up to them. (although that doesn't actually explain "why" people react differently..)

@crisproductions336 3 жыл бұрын

@@minty9003 👏 such an amazing message! We all have things in common with each other, and instead of being separated, let's appreciate each other for what we really are!

@hakonmarcus 5 жыл бұрын

This is the most depressing video you have posted to date.

@aaronrosner8446 5 жыл бұрын

Depression is not depression

@akiramoon5272 5 жыл бұрын

Håkon Marcus the truth hurts

@phil7081 5 жыл бұрын

It may be one of the most important ones. People need to know what is going on.

@pendejo6466 5 жыл бұрын

Anything that drives liberals to depression is great!

@MrGEORGETHOMPS 5 жыл бұрын

Aaron Rosner what

@Sacchidanand 5 жыл бұрын

6:39 - Trump's lies work because media debates that, rather than just stating verifiable facts.

@alexs1640 5 жыл бұрын

Trump's lies work because the average person doesn't keep up with daily news. So they hear him tell the lie but then not the correction. So they spread the lie

@linkinl1 5 жыл бұрын

Trump lies work, because the average person is not able to pick whats true and whats false from two oppositional explinaltions

@sagkoenigin 5 жыл бұрын

Trump lies work because he tells his base what they want to hear. They hate non white immigration. So just dehumanize mexicans, blacks, muslims etc and tarnish the image of the entire communities if a single person from those communities commit a crime. It works and his base love it. the entire departments in NASA, SpaceX, fermiLabs, MIT, stanford, Google, silicon valley etc are mostly atheists and they hate what these fake christians stand for.. So they just laugh at them while debating climate change, air/water pollution, environmental protection acts etc saying brainwashed by liberal universities. If i were a republican, i would definitely try to make money out of their illiteracy and bigotry. I mean IRS scammers do it, big corporations dealing with fuel based products and guns do it, fox news, breitbart etc do it and many youtubers make huge money out of it...

@Digger-Nick 5 жыл бұрын

@@alexs1640 The daily media is how 80% of the lies get spread lol. You are the problem.

@nicks.1244 5 жыл бұрын

Hugh Jass I know, they say that we are living in an alternate reality, and they so convinced that this is true that they can't even see that they are living in one themselves. What they fail to understand is that Trump supporters/conservatives think that you shouldn't just believe the mainstream media, they are the ones that want the government to decide everything for them and intrude on their life. Hilariously they are using doublethink from 1984 but accuse everybody else of doing it. They are what Karl Marx referred to as "useful idiots."

@oliverdallas405 2 жыл бұрын

How this has aged

@midnigh7x 2 жыл бұрын

"Russia was essentially invading a country they had said they were not going to invade"... Oh how time flies

@jamesburgess2k 5 жыл бұрын

Because people would rather be lied to and feel right, than told the truth and reevaluate their stance. It's the only logical reasoning why in the 21st century, with the internet of unlimited knowledge and perspectives, we still choose to be in bubbles or "safe spaces".

@bramak6784 5 жыл бұрын

True that.

@MikhailKalashnikovMiG 5 жыл бұрын

That’s racist

@rodrigopaim82 5 жыл бұрын

Exactly like safe spaces for "minorities", or when students burns down half a city because they do not want someone to speak. What Trump is doing is a presidential version of basically "anyone who disagrees with me, anyone that do not share my political views, anyone that criticizes me, is wrong". Well, the left has been doing that for quite some time too.

@jamesburgess2k 5 жыл бұрын

@@rodrigopaim82 to scrap it up to a left vs right issue is missing the point. This happens to everyone, rather they like to admit it or not. It's more of a general human thing, than a strictly political thing.

@darrenwalker3986 5 жыл бұрын

Seems overly simple but the mean (average) person is.

@bromeohotague 5 жыл бұрын

There is no war in Ba Sing Sae

@captain_swaggin4065 5 жыл бұрын

OrganicSoulJazz they’re making an avatar kyoshi novel, 2 actually

@bromeohotague 5 жыл бұрын

That's amazing

@chaddyfynnperkins3774 4 жыл бұрын

"A lie told often enough becomes the truth" - V Lenin

@lostaccount7323 3 жыл бұрын

His successors took a good note of that though

@chaddyfynnperkins3774 3 жыл бұрын

@@lostaccount7323 yeah, I guess they used it as a tool rather than a useful way of analysis

@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 3 жыл бұрын

Trump and his administration are using Putin's Playbook on how to become a dictator word for word

@ianurbina9777 3 жыл бұрын

@@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 A populist* dictators are the ones like Ortega.

@coulterdittman 3 жыл бұрын

"YOU NEVER HAD A SANDWICH"

@pineconequeen6691 3 жыл бұрын

NEVER

@crazy_fan4614 4 жыл бұрын

I’m Russian and I agree with you. Things that are done by the Russian government are frightening

@anonymous6666 4 жыл бұрын

how did you get onto our servers to even see this video haha

@crazy_fan4614 4 жыл бұрын

Damon Carino I live in Germany

@Josh-ck9bv 4 жыл бұрын

I was gonna say; “I hope you don’t get a knock on your door tonight”

@yesdvt 4 жыл бұрын

you are so right, they run these regime changing wars, used atomic bombs, sprayed agent orange on people, and have countless military bases around the globe. They are number one arms dealer, invade countries under false pretenses, drop bombs on wedding ceremonies, put sanctions on countries to cause hunger and famine. They are horrible...

@Josh-ck9bv 4 жыл бұрын

yesdvt yikes when you write it like that it you could be talking about America 😬

@someuser6796 4 жыл бұрын

Trump: *”Reality can be whatever I want”*

@someuser6796 4 жыл бұрын

Guiliani (7:26) is getting done tho

@ScarSonic97 4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a certain type of activist we see a lot of... lol Not mentioning any groups in particular xD

@multivitaminsaft1997 4 жыл бұрын

@William Linley At least their reality is not hurting anyone. Meanwhile: Trump ending a peaceful demonstration with rubber bullets and teargas to make a photo outside for his election campaign.

@nyanscout3413 3 жыл бұрын

William Linley ah, the classic strategy of just attacking whoever the “bad guys” are instead of actually defending your opinions. Trump loves that one

@someuser6796 3 жыл бұрын

@@multivitaminsaft1997 no he deliberately did it to spite peaceful black protestors as to make a statement to his racist fan base

@minam.658 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine a Trump supporter with a disability in that exact rally, where he made fun of a disabled reporter.

@kuroneko334 3 жыл бұрын

I was. I decided not to vote at all.

@theunpopularcuber9554 3 жыл бұрын

@@kuroneko334 Good.

@mariahyohannes 3 жыл бұрын

@@kuroneko334 His racist was comments wasn’t enough ?

@stevie6765 2 жыл бұрын

@@mariahyohannes they dont care obviously. where is the empathy??

@hkl614 3 жыл бұрын

my parents raised me on this principle. it's called "I'm always right"

@PatoTapado 5 жыл бұрын

*and now Brazil*

@Karolparis 5 жыл бұрын

Don’t tell about Brazil, you don’t know about our history and tragedies caused for left governments. Keep cooking your brain at CNN

@jonathanflores3256 4 жыл бұрын

@@Karolparis So are we gonna ignore how the Brazilian president is destroying the Amazon and denying it

@leunamreyo3663 4 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanflores3256 basically the entire world in indirectly destroying the planet itself. Directly or not, everyone's guilty

@judithjackson1086 4 жыл бұрын

@@leunamreyo3663 so he is just one of them Destroying the earth ...so it's true

@PillarsOfProphecy 4 жыл бұрын

@@Karolparis you're the second effect of firehosing

@jibokwy5773 5 жыл бұрын

Tell me about it(Chinese citizen here)

@mediamattersismycockholste562 5 жыл бұрын

"TAIWAN!" :)

@vilecorrupt 5 жыл бұрын

China fun?

@kosinusify 3 жыл бұрын

Kinda feels like Orwell's 1984... and I'm scared.

@spikypichu 3 жыл бұрын

"You looked in the chat for debate and found quotes." - Peachu, 2021

@samcarter619 2 жыл бұрын

Actually 1776 is on my side…! I have books and documents to prove it! The capitol rioters are right! That they are on the wrong side of freedom…and now Congress can’t even speak with them… you wonder why??? I already know!

@Monosekist 5 жыл бұрын

So basically we are in 1984

@spunkyhero5822 5 жыл бұрын

The Automaticist Just look at the facts, The democrats are claiming russua hacked theire election and used propoganda to misslead the people and make them vote for the wrong person. Dont americans understand that if theire election is so frail that basement dwelling trolls can meme theire hero into the whitehouse.. That your election system maybe need alitle change.. Instead of the " come cast your ballot and il take them into that windowless room and count them for you" election system. You could have elections that is not corruptable. Why does americans insist on having corrupt able elections? Its not 1984, its just a bunch of retarded americans who Have an avrage iq of a dead fish whit a credit card.

@MikhailKalashnikovMiG 5 жыл бұрын

No it is 2018 u libtard

@spunkyhero5822 5 жыл бұрын

Aguila701 nah, The world has had enough autistic grammar nazis. We dont need anymore. Just fyi: everyone reads your answer as : i know i cant disproove what your saying, but luckly you made a spelling error so i dont have to Adress your points. ( the sadness inside takes another bite of his soul) Your a bad person, and you should feel bad.

@shipshrekt2156 5 жыл бұрын

@Thaheadband33 5 жыл бұрын

spunky hero if you are going to insult people’s intelligence, make sure you can at least spell at a middle school level so people take you seriously.

@brookew2709 5 жыл бұрын

“President Obama did *not* found ISIS” I can’t

@altareggo 3 жыл бұрын

Can;t what?

@owenkeller2748 3 жыл бұрын

Trump said that Obama and Clinton “founded” ISIS as a repudiation of their inaction in the early days of ISIS. This meaning was understood by anyone who heard his speech. He was clearly not suggesting that either one was in Syria holding meetings or organizing war parties. When media act like he was saying something different from what he was really saying it makes media less trustworthy.

@ehs1452 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, he didn't

@crabobserver 3 жыл бұрын

@@owenkeller2748 you are following a clown whose madness is infecting millions. Truth = truth Opinions = false

@zento1702 3 жыл бұрын

“Only a Sith deals in absolutes.” nuff said

@paulbunyangonewild7596 3 жыл бұрын

Mmmmmmmm HMM.

@dissonanceparadiddle 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like we're all being gaslit for so long 😓

@baronvonlimbourgh1716 3 жыл бұрын

Yup. It is kind of americas "thing".

@twirox1662 3 жыл бұрын

@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 And sadly it seems to be working...

@baronvonlimbourgh1716 3 жыл бұрын

@@twirox1662 yeah, that's why they do it ;)

@mikaelamilazzo5070 5 жыл бұрын

"Not constrained by reality" is the best description of Trump and Putin

@Kasphs95 5 жыл бұрын

Why do you think trump won?

@MikhailKalashnikovMiG 5 жыл бұрын

I want to smell ur hair bb. #TRUMP2020 #MAGA

@pendejo6466 5 жыл бұрын

But isn't reality constructed by the observer as well? That's what quantum mechanics demonstrates in part.

@mikaelamilazzo5070 5 жыл бұрын

Pendejo I've never studied quantum mechanics,however, I think there's three parts to reality: what you perceive, what they perceive, and what is.

@jonatand2045 5 жыл бұрын

@@Kasphs95 He won because there is distrust in the establishment, the feeling that globalization is bad for the US, nostalgia for the good ol' times (MAGA), xenophobia (the wall), evangelicals (they prefered him), gerrymandering and the emails Russia stole.

@imacg5 5 жыл бұрын

This strategy was used in Qin court more than 2000 years ago. A powerful official declared a deer was a horse(he brought a deer to the court and said "this is a horse"). Anyone claimed differently was killed later. So yes, public lying has always been about power. What fascinates me is those who believe the lies without being coerced.

@citronm1405 5 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@thorkrynu4551 5 жыл бұрын

Trump has invoked the idea of violence multiple times too. Good reference.

@RushGamma 5 жыл бұрын

@@thorkrynu4551 And the left that actually did violent acts?!? You just gonna gloss that over?

@thorkrynu4551 5 жыл бұрын

@@RushGamma what Kathy Griffen? Ok Richard Spencer getting punched isn't ok as much as he deserved it.

@mediamattersismycockholste562 5 жыл бұрын

Now if you read that statement in relation to all of Bill and Hillary's crimes, IT ALL MAKES SENSE.

@bryanreed742 2 жыл бұрын

This whole "there is no truth, there are just competing narratives" sounds a lot like postmodernism to me.

@Stefan-lr6xo 2 жыл бұрын

This aged interestingly..

@timrhydderch5024 5 жыл бұрын

you know who else called journalists "enemies of the people" :/

@cubbyhoo 5 жыл бұрын

The Daily Mail?

@FinalSynapse 5 жыл бұрын

@Giffica it's so refreshing someone actually mention this. I remember when most people agreed that the MSM lies but half of them stopped believing this as soon as Trump stood up to the media.

@nntflow7058 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Putin and Xi.

@pendejo6466 5 жыл бұрын

"you know who else called journalists 'enemies of the people' :/" Anyone who despises the constant lies of the media.

@therambler3713 5 жыл бұрын

Tim Rhydderch Trump never used the term "Journalists", he said "FAKE NEWS is the enemy of the people" which is factually correct. The propaganda has worked well on you my friend.

@MatthewCookeOfficial 4 жыл бұрын

"As to who's being believed you can trust no one" -- Putin. "Just remember what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening. Just stick with us." -- Trump More terrific analysis from Vox. Thank you guys.

@imawaysaway Жыл бұрын

If this isn't Orwellian I don't know what is. What is America, now, truly?

@dalepeto9620 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe George Orwell's book 1984 should be renamed 2020.

@wikum3 5 жыл бұрын

From the UK - this also sounds a lot like the Brexit campaign tactics

@Honking_Goose 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah its right wing populism ironically for nationalists they are a globally linked drone that uses the same tactics wherever they are to indoctrinate people

@Historyfan476AD 5 жыл бұрын

sounds like remain calming world war three would break out when we leave.

@Honking_Goose 5 жыл бұрын

If u can link me to where remainers said WW3 will break out that would be great

@creamesoda79 5 жыл бұрын

Alex Jones, there was supposed to be an emergency budget if the UK voted to leave, it would be catastrophic. None of which came to pass.

@Historyfan476AD 5 жыл бұрын

here ya go. www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brexit-could-trigger-world-war-7928607

@merds475 5 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of ‘1984’, where society has reached a point in which reality has become subjective as a result of constant state propaganda. With the advent of the internet and prevalence of ‘fake news’, it’s becoming increasingly more difficult to distinguish between reality and fiction, which leads many people to resigning themselves to simply not knowing. What worries me about this is that, at least personally, it has encouraged me to become politically neutral which is just what leaders like Trump need- an acquiescing population to allow them to cement their control.

@Jack-Lack 5 жыл бұрын

If you simply get your news from reputable, highly factual sources, you should be all right. PBS, NPR, BBC, Washington Post, The Atlantic, New York Times, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, Vox, Salon, The Hill, the New Yorker...

@decatessara5029 5 жыл бұрын

@@Jack-Lack there are no reputable news outlets, with the possible exception of The Onion.

@decatessara5029 5 жыл бұрын

@@Jack-Lack It's not as though one outlet is more biased then any other, all they ever do is offer an isolated and popularized perspective on problems that have offered many angles of observation. If you want true, undiluted or unrefined news just read statistics off the census Bureau.

@Jack-Lack 5 жыл бұрын

@@decatessara5029 Some outlets are indeed more biased and less factual than others. You are making a serious false equivalence fallacy. Although we have some Fascists like Trump attacking the credibility of reputable journalism, and we have Trump and Putin utilizing this firehose of falsehood tactic to overwhelm fact-checkers and normalize lying, there is still such a thing as facts. You seem to want to advance their goals of diminishing what it is to be factual. You should be ashamed of yourself.

@decatessara5029 5 жыл бұрын

@@Jack-Lack people don't watch news to learn facts, they want stories. And that's what they get.

@borakaizen 3 жыл бұрын

There were great explanations from Masha Gessen, thank you. "So this very simple human assumption that you can know what's true... that assumption is taking away from you. You have to work for the truth and the hope is that you'll get exhausted and you'll eventually give up." "They're basically saying there's no war between people who know the truth and people who are lying. There is only positional warfare. Whoever has a better position, whoever has objectively more power, owns reality."

@crowbot32 3 жыл бұрын

folks get it every day from commercial advertising, it's the same technique, so their brains have become susceptible

@MrCal2648 5 жыл бұрын

WAR IS PEACE. FREEDOM IS SLAVERY. IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.

@johnmcclane4430 5 жыл бұрын

@MrCal2648 5 жыл бұрын

It's from the book 1984.

@Quintinohthree 5 жыл бұрын

@@MrCal2648 No, it's from Nineteen Eighty-Four.

@mediamattersismycockholste562 5 жыл бұрын

"HILLARY IS 98% TO WIN!" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAA!!!!

@MrCal2648 5 жыл бұрын

"I had the biggest inauguration crowd in history. PERIOD!"

@OdysseyTag 5 жыл бұрын

Why not fight fire with fire? People: You're not president Trump: I am People: Nope, and this is not your car Trump: Are you stealing my car? People: *drives off*

@dudewatches6125 5 жыл бұрын

George Asamoah-Awuah Falling to his level is less than ideal.

@kevinlaity5931 5 жыл бұрын

The real solution is to stop giving him the mic. Report on the president's actions and not his words.

@david0aloha 5 жыл бұрын

Because he has money and the US courts are where such disputes are settled. And if you have fortunes with which to fight him, he has the political power to undermine your fortunes. What you need to understand is that it's about power. The Donald's morality is power (particularly financial power). You need to attack him there.

@vladg5216 5 жыл бұрын

Is this supposed to be intelligent, funny, or informative? It's none of those things.

@swengross46 5 жыл бұрын

+Kevin Laity Breaking: Trumps banned from Twitter.

@burtingsy2784 4 жыл бұрын

The Philippines' Duterte and his trolls do the same thing!

@olidojosephd.9054 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm a Fil-Am, I think that the current president haves it's own version of China's 50 Cent Army.

@hydierubio2260 3 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for this comment haha

@covertfeelings8330 3 жыл бұрын

@@hydierubio2260 Yeah, duterte has many colorful things to say lololol

@cC-bl3ik 2 жыл бұрын

2:00….. this aged badly huh… Putin is still using the same tactics

@Charonic 5 жыл бұрын

This is such a good question, and I think the answer is actually really insidious (haven't finished the video yet): When someone is able to get away with blatantly lying and not having to be grounded in objective reality, it is hugely demoralizing for his enemies and takes away their sense of agency. People don't respond well to feeling like they're playing a rigged game. By using this tactic over and over again, an autocrat effectively consolidates power by convincing the rest of the community that society is rigged towards him / her, and that they have no choice but to play along. There is no power, in any real sense, being generated by the populace of the community and given to the autocrat, nor is it even fair to say that the power is being "stolen" from the people. Rather, the autocrat simply becomes relatively more powerful by by detaching everyone else from their own power.

@martinpavlicek2299 5 жыл бұрын

Well the autocract just marginalize truth seekers in eyes of his supporters. If he would care about the truth, he would prove their power but if he does not care he can slowly make them marginal by ignoring them. He can even want to force media to start a war with him because then he can turn his supporters against media and make anathing he say True as there is new truth value, tribialism, we against them, the power and fear of powerlessness

@bouncingsoul777 5 жыл бұрын

Great comment. I've never looked at it that way.

@rluna727 5 жыл бұрын

Great comment, not sure if you're right, but you're thought process is excellent. Kudos! I would add that conspiracy theories bond you, give you agency, and a sense of urgency. Autocrats always peddle conspiracy theories. The immediacy of conspiracy theories allows you to break social norms for the good of the country.

@user-yw3di8lp8f 5 жыл бұрын

So you telling me to join the side who create this lying tactic because of one stupid man who used this tactic against them?

@user-yw3di8lp8f 5 жыл бұрын

If you stupid enough to don't know who was the first people who used it and come to power I will tell you. The lenin and Hitler. Clearly left idiots who stand against freedom of individuals and capital. The basics principle of ideology that those people is focus on rights and goods for scoial groups instead of rights of individuals. Which means that those people don't see you as an intellegent self caring creature, so they will never respect you, and will never care about your rights, identity or anything else that matter to you but don't matter to them. And sorry for my English, leftists destroyed my country's education so I learned it myself, which means some issues)

@christhecurler 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Vox. How about an episode on how this can be effectively countered?

@vampireknight1003 5 жыл бұрын

ask questions think critically know and spot the techniques behind it. propaganda may try to blindfold you, but if you at least know you're not seeing the truth, that propaganda is not working.

@maxvonh 5 жыл бұрын

To be truthful it cant be "effectively countered" anytime soon. With Trump in office and spineless Republicans controlling congress he holds nearly complete power. The only way to fix this is to vote Democrat and get him impeached so real reform can take place.

@TheJadedJames 5 жыл бұрын

This kind of lying is a bullying tactic and an attack on the normal rule in regards to lying. A normal lie is a coworker eating your lunch, getting caught on camera, and having to confess, because the rules are, once your falsehood has been proven you have to concede. Even someone at work who is popular and in a position of power over you would have to concede when they've been proven wrong ... right? THIS is someone not following that rule and holding their ground that they did not steal the food. Not only are you forced to sound like a ninny as they don't follow the rules and concede when proven false, humiliating you, (and forcing you to repeat the lie in your fact checking) they are out there distracting with their own accusations, leveraging all their power, and making it into a social conflict where facts don't matter. It is already too late to just ignore Trump. So all I can really think of is finding a way to undercut the childlessness and win the social conflict.

@pendejo6466 5 жыл бұрын

Nothing. Trump has the power, so suck it.

@justindukwitz 5 жыл бұрын

I don’t imagine there is a simple solution to counter it. But it probably involves gaining analytical skills.

@peterjp4 4 жыл бұрын

"We're all almost done." 2020. So very close.

@brightsalot 4 жыл бұрын

Friendly reminder to VOTE in November!!!! 🗳✔️ And check your state’s voter registration guidelines... now. Now is a safe timeframe to do so, make sure you don’t miss your registration window. They’re different for every state. Good luck folks!

@squiggledot3707 2 жыл бұрын

2:03 well that didn't age too well did it

@chewnip86 2 жыл бұрын

yep

@sdrice2007 5 жыл бұрын

This is one of the best videos about truth and lies and power.

@derger8610 5 жыл бұрын

Ironically it is made by Vox who might as well be liars but prefer to say selective viewing

@soxredsox 5 жыл бұрын

@@derger8610 you just dont like the truth and what they are saying go kick rocks

@davidotness6199 4 жыл бұрын

Right. This video uses the same techniques it supposedly abjures, and you just eat it right up. Congratulations! Your brain just been electronically dry-cleaned.

@edwinvargas7969 4 жыл бұрын

David Otness What lies? And if so, are they relevant to Trump?

@nalla1782 4 жыл бұрын

David Otness really? What was wrong about what they said in this video?

@Apprendre-Photo 5 жыл бұрын

This is honestly the best explanation I've seen of this baffling phenomenon.

@AshikSatheesh 2 жыл бұрын

Reminded me of what Varys told Tyrion in Game of Thrones, “Power resides where men believe it resides”.

@sallybowles2781 4 жыл бұрын

This exposes the sad truth that a good percentage of people don't use their own heads to think, ever

@akhil3949 4 жыл бұрын

“Lies are bad” -Yoda

@howardsaffer-meng8839 3 жыл бұрын

Bad, lies are -Yoda

@ultimateo621 5 жыл бұрын

Trump presidency. By George Orwell

@deoxal7947 5 жыл бұрын

No Huxley. 1984 is about communism

@dcuniversenew22 5 жыл бұрын

How?

@urmomsbestfriend 5 жыл бұрын

*Putin's presidency

@deoxal7947 5 жыл бұрын

@@Bedlam83 Communism, fascism same thing

@shipshrekt2156 5 жыл бұрын

@TheVertigo361 4 жыл бұрын

5:19 That rug really tied the room together

@evo2542 3 жыл бұрын

3:23 yeah "you never had a sandwich" is gaslighting lol

@brendan5555 4 жыл бұрын

This is 1984 double speak, 100% the same thing

@catcraft5527 4 жыл бұрын

And don't forget doublethink

@djz3milo 5 жыл бұрын

Good one Carlos. You kept your argument consistent and presented your facts clearly, with a level head. I liked this one a lot.

@traffic501 5 жыл бұрын

Conservatives say the opposite.

@head4life 5 жыл бұрын

Satire right?

@numeitor7075 5 жыл бұрын

EGALE Certainly not.

@alejandrorapag9032 5 жыл бұрын

@@traffic501 This really has to be satire

@SomeRusher 5 жыл бұрын

conservatives are also retarded.

@CsongorVarady 2 жыл бұрын

This video is so informative, I keep coming back to it. One of the most insightful things you can learn about 21st century politics.

@ashaide 2 жыл бұрын

It's 2021 and this "firehose" is being refined today here in the Philippines as the election cycle for our own Presidentials ramps up (campaign starts in Feb. 2022) Where, from what I understand, many of the techniques used in the US and worldwide in 2016 were tested.

@PowahSlapEntertainmint 5 жыл бұрын

Telling lies?

@TheGamingParadise22 5 жыл бұрын

No papa!

@ouroruo 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheGamingParadise22 open your mouth

@James8hg 5 жыл бұрын

Eating sugar

@odebla2015 5 жыл бұрын

OPEN YOUR MOUTH SON

@CrnogorskiNacionalista 5 жыл бұрын

PowahSlap Entertainmint CONSUMING THE SOULS OF UNBAPTIZED NEWBORNS?

@inigojuancarlos 5 жыл бұрын

Truth isn’t truth? Isn’t truth absolute? Goddamn! This administration will go down in history as the worst administration so far.

@shipshrekt2156 5 жыл бұрын

no, research history, I can think of five that are way worse.

@yuirick 5 жыл бұрын

@Clorox Bleach: Gaslighting in a comment related to propaganda? You got balls. You got serious balls.

@thegodemperors45thlegionof41 5 жыл бұрын

Inhales *WRONG* You'd think Obama didnt have his share of disgrace? Look in the mirror and tell me you dont have stupidity writen in that face of yers.

@mediamattersismycockholste562 5 жыл бұрын

but those jobs, secure borders, lower taxes, record low unemployment, and good economy tho'

@jeremiahedwards2073 5 жыл бұрын

Truth: from the West Saxon "treowð : faith," from the earlier proto-Germanic "treuwaz : having good faith." The idea of truth being "factually accurate" is new to the lexicon.

@bertramli4983 3 жыл бұрын

And I thought China was a dystopia for banning youtube.

@IndiaAgainstSlaveryIAS Жыл бұрын

Watching this happening in India from the past 8 years with Narendra Modi and his Bharatiya Janata party 🙌🏼 People have developed "doublethink" as mentioned in the novel 1984. And people assert Modi's "right to lie" as a sign of his power.

@rerezpect 5 жыл бұрын

Hmm, this is interesting. I can imagine, next "true" is about picking a side. Nobody cares about fact. "I choose this side, so you are false." So scary..