Why Original 2Pac Was Better Than Death Row 2Pac: Spice 1 Explains

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The Difference Between Original 2Pac And Death Row 2Pac: Spice 1 Eloquently Explains
Bay Area rapper Spice 1, who is prominently known for his hardcore gangsta rap style, remains a respected figure in West Coast rap and is considered legendary in Hip Hop overall.
He was recently on Drink Champs and candidly spoke about his relationship with iconic rapper 2Pac. Spice 1 had a close and respectful relationship with 2Pac that went beyond music. They were friends.
It’s notably documented on how both Spice 1 and 2Pac had an admiration for each other's work. Spice 1 has also spoken about how 2Pac’s death impacted him deeply.
While on a recent episode of Drink Champs, Spice 1 was asked by Nore a question that can be controversial because of its implication. Nore asked Spice 1 to pick either the original 2Pac or Death Row 2Pac.
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@delawrencerobertson8608
@delawrencerobertson8608 15 күн бұрын
Get accused of a rape & charged, get robbed & shot, and get charged with sexual abuse (forcibly touching the buttocks). Get locked up. And while your able goes #1, your record label won't bail you out. All of that would cause Any Human Being to change as well.
@warrengomez67
@warrengomez67 14 күн бұрын
Facts. All happened in short space of time.
@BlackKingEnt
@BlackKingEnt 13 күн бұрын
In his early 20s* is the crazy part:
@GollumFromMordor
@GollumFromMordor 13 күн бұрын
Plus all his friends turned backs to him and started dissing him + partying with the guys who shot him in quad studio. It was justified for pac to diss them all
@user-Tripleggggggg
@user-Tripleggggggg 13 күн бұрын
He went number 1 cause of all the controversy. Niccus wasn’t listening to pac like that when he first came out. But he stayed in trouble and conflict so that catapulted his career
@TheShadow84
@TheShadow84 13 күн бұрын
Thank You for the true context. However, I guess people didn't hear Makaveli. He was still on his message even after getting shot, "White Man's World" "Hold ya head" & "Blasphemy" are just a few examples. The man was in his early 20s going through things most men would fold under.
@Ms.A.Matthews415-nn7hu
@Ms.A.Matthews415-nn7hu 14 күн бұрын
The original 2pac (1991-1993) was on that panther power rebel while the deathrow 2pac (1995-1996) was on that militant outlaw system..
@Charlie-yu9ce
@Charlie-yu9ce 13 күн бұрын
1994 thug life
@kf9926
@kf9926 11 күн бұрын
He was trying to unite all black youth
@Ms.A.Matthews415-nn7hu
@Ms.A.Matthews415-nn7hu 11 күн бұрын
@@kf9926 but lost sight of that mission in 1996
@BunyipDude
@BunyipDude 11 күн бұрын
Dunno if I’d say that he was a Panther Power rebel before he signed with Suge. A common criticism of 2Pac’s pre-Death Row career was that he was all over the place when it came to his image and his lyrics. He tended to veer between Public Enemy-style militant imagery (e.g., on “Holla If Ya Hear Me”, which is the most PE-esque song he ever made), Too $hort-style pimp music (“I Get Around”), and straight G shit (“Violent”) inspired by N.W.A. It wasn’t even uncommon that critics’ reviews of his earliest albums used to point out how contradictory he could be in his messages and lyrical technique - even within the space of a single album. “Me Against The World” is, IMHO, his only album where he achieved that balance with a “conscious thug” aesthetic that I wish had been more common in his later work, and might have been if he hadn’t signed with Death Roe and pushed into becoming just another G-Funk rapper on the label.
@Ms.A.Matthews415-nn7hu
@Ms.A.Matthews415-nn7hu 11 күн бұрын
@@BunyipDude predeathrowera pac was able to handle 2 cops to save his own Ppl..
@omeizausman3952
@omeizausman3952 14 күн бұрын
There is only one Pac. No original or deathtrow Tupac. You can say he went through different circumstances that showed the world other sides to him(we all have that different sides to us) but Pac is Pac. Period
@gmagospalfry7931
@gmagospalfry7931 14 күн бұрын
🕊🐐Tupac Was Tupac All Day & All Night. Everyone's Different At Times Depending On What's Going On In Their Life [What They're Dealing With]❣️ Stay Safe😷!😇
@kabookie960
@kabookie960 13 күн бұрын
You guys gotta remember NORE is a 2pac Hater
@jezuschrist7120
@jezuschrist7120 12 күн бұрын
2pac is always original...
@PR-WAY
@PR-WAY 15 күн бұрын
Pac was the same from the begining to the end dont know why they think theres 2 different ones lol everybody goea threw changes an sht
@saeedalhosani
@saeedalhosani 14 күн бұрын
When 2Pac got shot and out of jail, 2Pac became more stronger and fire and angry
@PR-WAY
@PR-WAY 14 күн бұрын
@@saeedalhosani exactly but they act like he was trying to be something he was not
@saeedalhosani
@saeedalhosani 14 күн бұрын
Yes you are right ​@@PR-WAY
@fuhyou3223
@fuhyou3223 14 күн бұрын
I believe Faizon Love said something about a year ago that 2Pac got some things from Spice 1 and I’m sure the P-Hive called him everything but a man of God because of it. Now you got Spice 1 confirming it here. As far as the original 2Pac vs Death Row 2Pac thing goes. I liked the original militant guy better. Pac didn’t wanna be on Death Row but he had to put that front up in the name of being a good soldier. He was a wild one in the beginning of his career but I think he ramped up on the antics to impress Suge. I think he would have eventually cut ties because a 50 something year old Suge was still with the nonsense like it was still 1993 or something. I think Pac would have grown past that stuff. I loved the 7 Day Theory album and the material recorded in that time period. All Eyez On Me he coulda kept a lot of that in the vault. He didn’t care that much for the album either but it didn’t stop him from bragging about how many records he sold. Go figure.🤷🏾‍♂️
@KP43-08
@KP43-08 12 күн бұрын
Nore is bias because he’s from the East Coast so everything he says it’s gonna seem like he’s taking a shot at pac
@ItsJustUsEnt
@ItsJustUsEnt 12 күн бұрын
How come Nobody ever Ask if Tupac had PTSD...I think Pac changed After he got Shot. Original Pac and Death row Pac is really Tupac before he got Shot and then Tupac after he Got Shot. He came back very Aggressive
@erichawkins7305
@erichawkins7305 12 күн бұрын
He was only on deathrow for 8 months . All eyes on me was just a celebration album of being free and the mac album was him coming full circle and getting back to his militant roots.
@codyclark5995
@codyclark5995 13 күн бұрын
This man knew Tupac personally as well as Warren G
@Charlie-yu9ce
@Charlie-yu9ce 13 күн бұрын
Nore be trying to get people to down pac lol. True
@online82witness
@online82witness 16 күн бұрын
🫡👏👏👏 he was militant and community which no other took it to that level in rap! Except KRS-1!! Which im sure Pac was inspired to also go THAT route (the blueprint album) and also (By All Means Necessary Album) NOT imitate but to pursue the militarization of the whole black community! Once he got shot, which was like Kendrick (creative) vs. Drake (industry pop plant) people hated on creativity vs pop -get-money- industry - contract BS*** even now the same story continues!! But kendrick learned from Pac most definitely! BOMB FIRST!! 💥
@21street-erfication90
@21street-erfication90 14 күн бұрын
First off, Bomb First was released after he died but I get it, lol. Second; you can find the interviews and articles online where KRS explains how Tupac "got caught up in the hype". Why does he say that? It's because Pac got shot, locked up, signed to Death Row...then started dissing everyone and making attack records that had nothing to do with Revolution. That's how I remember it but so many of you online got it a bit wrong. No offense. No one attacked Pac for his creativity; he started dissing people left and right and most weren't happy with the whole Biggie/Faith situation. You can find the O.G Ice T explain how Pac was even mad at him for not joining that BS Death Row war against all who werent from LA...and against some who were from LA, lol. They were bullies...Pac had a good heart but damn, homy became a Blood at twenty something years old after signing to Death Row...that's not a good thing. There was no revolution in Vegas when him, Suge and the crew stomped that Crip dude out on video footage, that night that he was killed. That was not "wrong place/wrong time", instead that was more of a "wtf are you doing with your life?/ "what did you expect?". 'Hit em up' was not to defend himself, I just explained to someone this morning how even that Mobb Deep joint "Drop a Gem on em'" was a response to Pac attacking them out of nowhere on Hit Em Up. Pac had no reason to attack them on record other then Suge Knight making him this Blood gangsta rapper that he used to wage this unnecessary war. I'd humbly would like to know who attacked Pac for his creativity? Pac made "I get around" which was about smashing skeezerz but "Get Money" rap is different? Which youth was "Hit em Up" supposed to inspire? Remember the story of Snoop having to fear for his life on a plane since Pac, Suge and the Blood entourage wanted to bang on him simply because he said he wanted peace, didn't hate NY and had love for Biggie. That's not Pac; the victim...that's Pac the Agressor for an unnecessary war that he was trying to end with his One Nation album. This is history. It wasn't rappers who shot him or set him up and there wasn't some east coast conspiracy against him. The Fugees were conscience rappers, it's just that Haitian Kack was a bad guy and also happen to be be related to Wyclef. Prodigy was a fan even after death and even when they were dissing him except for one diss about his Sickle Cell Anemia condition...a condition that only African Americans get. I didn't think that was very revolutionary. He snapped...and was caught between a rock and a hard place but his real enemies were Jimmy Henchmen and Haitian Jack...both thugs who he got mixed up with.
@online82witness
@online82witness 5 күн бұрын
@@21street-erfication90 beo you said all of that (which i disnt read) and it has nothing yo do with my initial comment and pov.. 😂 but I’m not mad at you bro, much love, like pox it was he still inspires, but like jaguar areola, check that rapper out, he said 2Pac should’ve stayed in the pro black lane and like you said he got caught up in gang activity because Deathrow at the end of the day was a gang which hair ties to Piru so ultimately, he was never saw he was 100% about being about it or like masterp said bout it bout it
@estebangomez7497
@estebangomez7497 12 күн бұрын
Pac the best regardless
@21street-erfication90
@21street-erfication90 14 күн бұрын
Spice-1 was Tupac's homy but as usual fans in the comments think they know better. Tupac CHANGED and you can easily tell from his albums/music. Me against the World was a classic album with songs like So Many Tears, Dear Mama and Me against The World and even Temptationz but after getting shot, locked up and signed his life away to Suge on that napkin when he was desperate in jail, hus music was on attack mode. Suge and Diddy were the ones originally beefing but then Pacnstatts shtting on Biggie who was passive throughout the whole beef until after Pac's death. Je had love for Pac but Hit Em Up changed all that...he messed up an innocent man's marriage...whether he smashednor not, how many revolutionaries you think would start an angry rap verse about smashing someone's wife and spreading the story/rumor publicly? You think Malcolm X, MLK or even Pac's mom would approve of waging a war that way....on rappers? Rappers? Then turning into a Blood. He lost focus and lost track, those who were closest to him said so, us who were living and breathing during his mini-era say so became we witnessed it but the only ones who disagree are people who only learned about Pac through videos and interviews. Pac was layered, as we all are. Pac didn't sell crck or control any blocks; dude was from NY and joined an LA gang within the last 2 years of life. He changed. I was alive when Pac was making records, he died when I was 13 and me and my friends in school cried....most of the people who cant accept that Pac changed were born way after his death or were toddlers.
@yahowshuabenyahudah7734
@yahowshuabenyahudah7734 13 күн бұрын
He changed, but not in the way cats be trying to imply. Dude was the same, his FOCUS changed, not his personality bro
@georgebrice8329
@georgebrice8329 11 күн бұрын
I agreed
@yahowshuabenyahudah7734
@yahowshuabenyahudah7734 11 күн бұрын
@@21street-erfication90 and Big wasn’t innocent bro, cats gotta stop making him out to be
@21street-erfication90
@21street-erfication90 10 күн бұрын
​@yahowshuabenyahudah7734 Pac went from saying Big set him up...then it turned into he knew who did it and mad that he wouldn't serve them on a plate for him...does that make any sense to you? Pac showed Biggie the game and wore Vesace and Moschino shirts around him and brought him around floozies SO he declared war on Biggie when big actually wore those dumb expensive shirts and put on his Playa persona? Does that make any sense to you? Haitian Jack and Jimmy Henchmen set Pac up. Biggie wasn't signed to Haitian Jack or Jommy Henchmen records right, lol. Big warned Pac to not mess with Haitian Jack but Pac didn't take him seriously and even told Haitian Jack...that put Big in trouble because Jack was/is Big time. Pac also accused the black revolutionary group De La Soul of sneak dissing him too...he was wrong! You have to be able to understand your "stars" as humans. We all make mistakes
@4ArchieLee
@4ArchieLee 13 күн бұрын
Spice ain't lying tho ... Pac best tracks was Death around the corner and picture Me Rollin same beat but it tells a great story from both sides ..
@Trolondo33
@Trolondo33 12 күн бұрын
At this point NORE just wish he knew Pac dude got an obsession with tryna figure Pac out n out of all the interviews and feedback he still miss the mark🤷🏾‍♂️👌🏾✅
@Jac735
@Jac735 13 күн бұрын
I respect pac regardless my favorite albums from him were 2pacaplyse now strictly for my 🥷 and thug life alot if people think im weird for that but i dont care when i was younger even though he passed away back when i was in 1st grade i liked his other albums better but the first 3 his earlier ➕️ his mixtape days spoke to me more
@lfbashir2967
@lfbashir2967 2 күн бұрын
people always say deathrow changed 2pac but never look at it from the other side. as much as we think deathrow changed pac i think pac changed deathrow. from the work ethic to the politic. deathrow didnt give artists any say/power but when pac came, deathrow/suge definitely gave pac a position of power/say at deathrow. they evolved together for better or worse, thats not for me to make that call
@AngelHoll-pr8fz
@AngelHoll-pr8fz 14 күн бұрын
I miss pac!!! 😢😢😢 is his mom still alive or his sister?
@leejee88
@leejee88 13 күн бұрын
alot of people who knew pac and were friends with him all said the same thing even snoop said pac before death row was better i would agree also .we got to see pac's full spectrum of talent as and artist .while on death row he was stuck in that thug mentality
@rnorfor2002
@rnorfor2002 11 күн бұрын
digital underground 2pac
@chinomsookpala8729
@chinomsookpala8729 10 күн бұрын
Some one is paying this Nore nothingness to keep trying to tarnish Tupac image but like he told us, Idiots will talk alot of shit but thats after im gone cos they fear me in physical form nd as soon as he died the bastards started crawling out of their holes
@StormStorm-gm7wu
@StormStorm-gm7wu 12 күн бұрын
It's two 2Pac jus like it'z 2 Jordan tha second 3 peat Jordan ain't FKN with tha 1st 3peat Jordan but I think Death Row 2Pac were that BEST of him he were about 2 become Elvis & Michael Jackson of tha music industry
@chinomsookpala8729
@chinomsookpala8729 10 күн бұрын
Why is Nore so bent on hating a god? NORE or is ur name( Nothingness) pls ask ur guests about any other single Rapper or about urself half the numbers of times u ask about Tupac nd lets see where it gets u
@AndWhySeeKid
@AndWhySeeKid 11 күн бұрын
94’ Tupac was east coast Tupac he was around biggie big stretch lil cz big Shawn mic Geronimo all them dudes if the quad studio shooting didn’t happen pac would have stayed in New York
@TheShadow84
@TheShadow84 13 күн бұрын
Nore wish he had the heart 2pac had. Thats why he always trying to diss s dead 25 year old. Let it sink in. Old men hating on a dude that didnt even see 26.
@Thadopeera
@Thadopeera 12 күн бұрын
NORE is looking weak taking jabs at a dead man knowing he was crickets when Pac was alive.
@21street-erfication90
@21street-erfication90 11 күн бұрын
What did Big do? Biggie's only offense came with his diss song after Pac's death. I don't disagree with Big making that song since Pac destroyed his marriage and used Death Row for all that fake/to real beef. Let's look back...is it Man sht to expose that he possibly hit Faith or was it Revolutionary? You tell me because I see it as bad decision making that his mother wouldn't agree with. It was wrong and uncalled for. Big warned Pac NOT to mess with Haitian Jack (look at my title; East 21st st Flatbush had Haitian Jack banned from the area because the hood knew he was a dangerous tuff snitch with Federal back up) BUT Pac looked at Big like he was pussy since he knew that Big was small time and Jack always moved on some untouchable gangsta shit, so he told Jack what Big said and Jack set up Biggie to get robbed and he did. Yah internet nighz dont know about that. Who Shot Ya was a great song, Pac was paranoid dude so he let people make him think that was about him but 1 careful listen, anybody knows it's not about him. Read the lyrics...its been many many many years since the song first played on the radio and I was recording off the radio on cassette then buying the single and this song is still not in the Diss Songs category. The producer us Eazy Moe Bee who is mutual friend of both Big and Pac and explained that it was just a song. Not one bar...not one lyric is subliminal or anything like that and Big was a subliminal dude for sure. His ONLY bar towards the situation was on that Brooklyn's Finest joint way back he said "If Faith Had Twins; She would Have Two Pacs...get it 2...Pacs!" I AM A PAC FAN...but yah just cant keep it real. What was he blaming Big for? What was he blaming the peaceful revolutionary group De La Soul for? He was out of it sometimes...that's life
@karmbaksh7173
@karmbaksh7173 15 күн бұрын
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