Why people think this photo of JFK's killer is fake

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2 жыл бұрын

This photo of Lee Harvey Oswald has been analyzed for decades.
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Lee Harvey Oswald was murdered two days after he was arrested for assassinating US President John F. Kennedy. But before Oswald died, he claimed that a damning piece of evidence against him - a photo showing Oswald holding the rifle that killed the president - was fake. In fact, he said his face was superimposed onto another person’s body to set him up.
The photo’s authenticity has been in question ever since, and it plays a key role in the conspiracy theory surrounding JFK’s death. The shadows in the photo seem inconsistent, and Oswald’s crooked stance under the weight of the rifle looks like he is about to tip over. Plus, his face doesn’t look the same as it does in his mug shot.
For decades, conspiracy theorists have used this image as key evidence to suggest that Oswald was framed. But decades of analysis - including recent 3D forensic analysis - has proved over and over that the photo is likely authentic.
Darkroom is a history and photography series that anchors each episode around a single image. Analyzing what the photo shows (or doesn't show) provides context that helps unravel a wider story. Watch previous episodes here: • Vox Darkroom
Here’s the full copy of Hany Farid’s 3D forensic study: farid.berkeley.edu/downloads/...
And here’s the study by Pawan Sinha: web.mit.edu/sinhalab/Papers/an...
Plus, more links to other resources about the photo:
history-matters.com/archive/j...
aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc...
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@Vox
@Vox 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Correction: At 10:33, we say the accuracy for the 2-second test is 50%. It's actually 65%, as you can see on the chart. There was 50% accuracy when subjects were shown the images for 1 second each.
@johnfitzgerald7618
@johnfitzgerald7618 2 жыл бұрын
And 1.75 metres is 5'9", not 5'8". Could you clarify that? Are we seeing again the usual attention to detail that goes into forensic "science"? If I had to bet I'd bet on its being an unretouched photo, but this doesn't increase my confidence.
@realfactslocal
@realfactslocal 2 жыл бұрын
A much more important question is how is a photo of a similar rifle enough evidence to convict.....could another not be produced alike 🤔 . This would not work these days to prosecute indicates a corrupt justice system. Lastly I appreciate the documentaries but it is as if you are tip toeing to now tell anything critical....but just explain why we should believe our government and the system around us Would love to see a documentary on how jfk's first move was going to be to investigate 🔎 and possibly shut down the Cia? And then shot dead ?????
@BatCaveOz
@BatCaveOz 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, sounds like some kind of conspiracy...
@brianarbenz7206
@brianarbenz7206 2 жыл бұрын
First you say 70. Then you say 65. Just what are you covering up, Vox? (satire)
@PRDreams
@PRDreams 2 жыл бұрын
This is how conspiracies are fed...
@ElmosUniverse
@ElmosUniverse 2 жыл бұрын
The real conspiracy here is whether or not he ended up keeping that copy of Life Magazine.
@ahmedwaseem8097
@ahmedwaseem8097 2 жыл бұрын
He did
@thefilmfrontier6822
@thefilmfrontier6822 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedwaseem8097 Amazing
@StoreyofGee
@StoreyofGee 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I want to know too
@Dankman9
@Dankman9 2 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing.
@Dankman9
@Dankman9 2 жыл бұрын
I guess Vox commented that he got to keep it.
@2Balls2Furious
@2Balls2Furious 2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if they went over a timeline of proven historically altered photos, like the classic Stalin-era photos, to show what that photo-editing technology looked like at the time. I think that would help further put this to rest.
@jessicawalton4690
@jessicawalton4690 2 жыл бұрын
bernadette banner has an interesting video about old photo editing, although that's more about really old photos
@_Zaid
@_Zaid 2 жыл бұрын
Vox did a video on that 2 years ago, look up "Vox Soviet doctored photo"
@jellysecret
@jellysecret 2 жыл бұрын
@@_Zaid thank you for saying that, i thought i wss the only one who remembered that!
@pramilashaktawat4429
@pramilashaktawat4429 2 жыл бұрын
⭕SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE VOX
@janders79
@janders79 2 жыл бұрын
That would be cool, but the conspiracy theorists would cry and moan over Soviet technology versus US tech of the era.
@wilberslater9967
@wilberslater9967 Жыл бұрын
The real questions are: Who took the photo? Why would he take a picture of himself with the gun? And why was he holding a newspaper so that the gun could be put in his hand on a specific date?
@storysource889
@storysource889 Жыл бұрын
Marina Oswald said she took the photo
@atlas2296
@atlas2296 Жыл бұрын
He probably took the picture because guns are cool and he likely didn't intend to perform an assassination when it was taken
@missdeejay
@missdeejay Жыл бұрын
1. His wife took'em. 2. Southerners have a thing for guns. 3. It's coincidential, he just wanted to be photographed with his reading material.
@debarshidas8072
@debarshidas8072 Жыл бұрын
@@missdeejay Yeah, because it's so entirely usual for someone to want to be photographed with their gun in one hand and their reading material in the other.
@missdeejay
@missdeejay Жыл бұрын
@@debarshidas8072 it is usual for people to be photographed with their guns, especially in Texas. I'm not saying there wasn't a cover-up, but I think this picture is a diversion. There's real evidence out there that says Oswald didn't shoot Kennedy with a rifle, and it's the paraffin and nitrate test results, that came out on Nov 23. They were negative for firing a rifle. More than if a picture was doctored or not, the important fact is that Lee didn't shoot Kennedy, and there's a negative nitrate test that proves it.
@truthof7382
@truthof7382 7 ай бұрын
What is more realistic is that the picture was taken, or someone was told to snap this photo with the knowledge that they (not Oswald) was going to using it in the near future for exactly the purpose is was used for.
@UnPhAzD91
@UnPhAzD91 5 ай бұрын
Almost like someone was showing it too him. Was like hey go ahead it looks good in your hands. Hold it I'll take a picture for you
@Mario_N64
@Mario_N64 5 ай бұрын
​@@UnPhAzD91And Oswald allegedly exclaimed that the photo was altered when it was shown to him by police. He had worked on high end, high resolution photography.
@jeffeverhart5301
@jeffeverhart5301 24 күн бұрын
Right on. It was absolutely real. And taken for a reason and purpose
@loveinseattle
@loveinseattle 2 жыл бұрын
This guy's office is the most organized professor's office I've ever seen.
@DogSniffing
@DogSniffing 2 жыл бұрын
as if it's a set for a movie
@AdityaMoudgal
@AdityaMoudgal 2 жыл бұрын
Probably a home office.
@theredacted3805
@theredacted3805 2 жыл бұрын
That's a classroom..
@andrewtian6171
@andrewtian6171 2 жыл бұрын
nah, I had him as a teacher. Dude is actually just organized
@JohnK_
@JohnK_ 2 жыл бұрын
how do we know he's not a 3D recreation of a professor at UCB who's an expert in forensics
@gms9614
@gms9614 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, but did the professor get to keep the copy of Life Magazine?
@BroAnarchy
@BroAnarchy 2 жыл бұрын
I must know this too PLEASE TELL ME
@TaylorIserman
@TaylorIserman 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is no since there was an edit right afterward.
@jaybk718
@jaybk718 2 жыл бұрын
I mean ge bent it up. It must be his lol
@sfdjk
@sfdjk 2 жыл бұрын
@@TaylorIserman but maybe he put it in his bag or something during the cut
@warvex
@warvex 2 жыл бұрын
An even greater mystery
@RogueIntel
@RogueIntel Жыл бұрын
A brilliant tactic of making people focused on debating about a photo while the real cover up happened somewhere else.
@ivanvolkov2239
@ivanvolkov2239 Жыл бұрын
No cover up bro Oswald he was that good fr do you think the u.s Gov or any one military back then would be involved time proves there is no cover up why hasn't trump or Biden or Nixon been assassinated there was no point the u.s gov or cia risking this fr dude think bout it my father he would pull people up like that Oswald did it a top shooter can do that just like Bruce Lee was a freak of nature so was Oswald
@-xirx-
@-xirx- Жыл бұрын
Bingo
@johnholt9975
@johnholt9975 Жыл бұрын
Oswald still doing what he was originally tasked to do - create doubt and confusion. Everyone knows the CIA organized and carried out the assassination of both Kennedy's. No doubt the cozy relationship between the CIA and Mafia suggest there were others involved.
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 Жыл бұрын
Look at the sling swivels. The alleged rifle has them on the left side. The rifle in these photos has them on the bottom of the stock. Can't be the same rifle.
@devonbrook
@devonbrook Жыл бұрын
I genuinely cannot tell if you and everyone else replying are memeing or not.
@rockyraccoon6114
@rockyraccoon6114 Жыл бұрын
The craziest thing is how similar Gary Oldham looks to Lee Oswald.
@zalllon
@zalllon 2 жыл бұрын
The weirdest part of the photo is that it was taken at all, perfectly capturing him with the guns and the pamphlets. Like a gift wrapped piece of evidence. I’m sure the photo is real but who asked him to pose with all that stuff?
@JSbluewalrus
@JSbluewalrus 2 жыл бұрын
I thought about your point, but then I remember all the people caught for their crimes after posting about it on social media.
@brandonfleming7118
@brandonfleming7118 2 жыл бұрын
I believe he took it to try and look cool and all like "yeah I'm about to make a change". Kinda edgy.
@cardiffwilly
@cardiffwilly 2 жыл бұрын
There's no reason to assume he's an intelligent person.
@realsecrets1
@realsecrets1 2 жыл бұрын
If i have a gun and pose with it, do I suddenly have superior motives? Stop trying to look into things.
@jameslearing970
@jameslearing970 2 жыл бұрын
Well he lived in the south and you know how much they love their guns. It's not the first photo to ever been taken with a guna and that's not unusual at all.
@crixxxxxxxxx
@crixxxxxxxxx 2 жыл бұрын
They never said WHO TOOK THE PHOTO. Oswald’s wife confirmed that she took the photo.
@DapayTobias
@DapayTobias 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what I've been thinking the whole video. At the moment the photo was taken, there's for sure another witness besides Oswald -- the one who took the picture.
@achillestheant430
@achillestheant430 2 жыл бұрын
@@DapayTobias it was the first selfie LOL
@danielyoungblood8525
@danielyoungblood8525 2 жыл бұрын
@@achillestheant430 nope
@harrycollins3248
@harrycollins3248 2 жыл бұрын
His wife was coerced into implicating her husband.
@cyval3890
@cyval3890 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielyoungblood8525 it was a joke.
@malachi-
@malachi- 11 ай бұрын
Why would Oswald work so hard and purposely take pics of himself with a rifle and dated newspapers to make sure everyone knew he did it, then when he was arrested, deny he did it?
@maryettamoody5079
@maryettamoody5079 3 ай бұрын
Lordy help us
@user-gi8pk9uc7q
@user-gi8pk9uc7q 14 күн бұрын
We will never know!
@Wombah-rc6zz
@Wombah-rc6zz 9 ай бұрын
THIS shows that "justice" in the USA can be shammed!
@j66hutch
@j66hutch Жыл бұрын
The only thing that troubles me is that the government still will not release the classified files. What is the threat to national security?
@joysboy6588
@joysboy6588 Жыл бұрын
"What is the threat to national security?"😂😂😂😂😂😂 It's themselves!!!!!!
@nathanwoodruff9422
@nathanwoodruff9422 Жыл бұрын
_" What is the threat to national security?"_ The threat to national security is the person that actual shot JFK.
@daggen7273
@daggen7273 Жыл бұрын
THE GOVERNMENT WAS IN ON IT, THAT'S WHY THEY CANNOT RELEASE MORE DOCUMENTS
@alanpartridge1385
@alanpartridge1385 Жыл бұрын
Something like 95% of all files related to the Kennedy assassination have already been released.
@barbara1904
@barbara1904 Жыл бұрын
If a government or individuals are going to murder a president, there would be no paper trail.
@theowlfromduolingo7982
@theowlfromduolingo7982 2 жыл бұрын
It is so funny how Oswald just took a random snapshot with a simple camera in 1963 but for decades people analyze every single millimeter of it
@zivkomaric9118
@zivkomaric9118 2 жыл бұрын
Well they were just curious about it if Lee H. Oswald was actually the person who murderered JFK and they did it for education so that people can know what happened to JFK unless they're not interested in it.
@walter-st3fb
@walter-st3fb 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a "random" snapshot
@theowlfromduolingo7982
@theowlfromduolingo7982 2 жыл бұрын
@@walter-st3fb But I think he didn’t expect it to go this viral. It may not be random but you get my point
@elongatedalbatross9318
@elongatedalbatross9318 2 жыл бұрын
What
@theowlfromduolingo7982
@theowlfromduolingo7982 2 жыл бұрын
@@elongatedalbatross9318 what „what“
@johndunn9819
@johndunn9819 Жыл бұрын
So, why was the photo "retouched" in the first place?
@skye.325
@skye.325 Жыл бұрын
That doesn't answer the question. Something is important as the rifle and they retouched it? There is something fishy about that
@skye.325
@skye.325 Жыл бұрын
@@maniswolftoman yeah it's a little different airbrushing and model cellulite is just for Aesthetics. altering a photograph of a weapon that possibly murdered a president is interference and Criminal. I'm going to say it's not the same, but you go ahead and believing you right.
@patrickday4206
@patrickday4206 Жыл бұрын
It fundamentally changes the photos in a way that serves no legitimate purpose
@abelmontalvo4052
@abelmontalvo4052 Жыл бұрын
@@maniswolftoman because they're framing Lee Harvey Oswald
@barryffay
@barryffay Жыл бұрын
@@maniswolftoman pretty ignorant question! This is NOT just another photo, but what was being brought out as EVIDENCE of Oswalds´s guilt. You don´t "retouch" evidence" even if it is for some magazine. BTW - did Life include any reference to their "retouching" in the text or did they only ADMIT it after it was noticed by numerous people? Wanna bet what the answer is???
@willowrose2552
@willowrose2552 9 ай бұрын
The photo literally looks so normal lol
@bigDbigDbigD
@bigDbigDbigD 3 ай бұрын
Nobody can stand like that
@zerg9523
@zerg9523 2 жыл бұрын
Next time someone shows me something cool, i’m gonna try this guys bit… _”First, i assume i can keep this”_
@hczylos2432
@hczylos2432 2 жыл бұрын
same... was golden.
@Ty-vj4wg
@Ty-vj4wg 2 жыл бұрын
That’s how he got payed .
@TheTrippleTKA
@TheTrippleTKA 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not the only one who made a mental note like that. Like, exactly what I was thinking, how do you say no to that? hahah
@user-ej2wr5bg2v
@user-ej2wr5bg2v 2 жыл бұрын
It's one of those um... yeah of course, mments
@LawAndBedlum
@LawAndBedlum 2 жыл бұрын
Hany: "I assume I can keep this" My man doesn't play🤣
@amazeangelogames3165
@amazeangelogames3165 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@oscarmosh
@oscarmosh 2 жыл бұрын
The excitement was genuine
@nikolatesla4238
@nikolatesla4238 Жыл бұрын
What I want to know is why would Oswald photograph himself with a gun he will later use as a murder weapon. It's not like photography was as common as it is today with people snapping pictures of just about anything. It's almost like he was laying the groundwork for his own prosecution. This still makes no sense.
@AlunThomas-mp5qo
@AlunThomas-mp5qo Ай бұрын
Also why would Oswald buy a rifle from a mail order company which would involve giving a name and address as well as providing his handwriting as evidence, when he could have just walked into any gun shop and purchased a rifle with a cash payment without giving any personal details leaving only the memory of the shop assistant to provide a description of him.
@scottt9382
@scottt9382 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Berkeley guy should have his own YT channel doing these analyses.
@grimsobad8545
@grimsobad8545 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeahh, that’s definitely a great way of stacking up views i love these types of stuff
@macforme
@macforme 2 жыл бұрын
" Hany Farid is an American university professor who specializes in the analysis of digital images, Dean and Head of School for the UC Berkeley School of Information. In addition to teaching, writing, and conducting research, Farid acts as a consultant for non-profits, government agencies, and news organizations. Wikipedia " Does that sound like a person who has time to make KZfaq videos for us?
@TheTrippleTKA
@TheTrippleTKA 2 жыл бұрын
@@macforme maybe he should do vlogs for his every day life. I'd watch that
@pippincovington1348
@pippincovington1348 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@izraulhidashi4323
@izraulhidashi4323 Жыл бұрын
Just to be clear... that means Oswald's face was taken from 1single photo, and that same 1 face was used in 3 different photos. Without question. And you don't need fancy equipment to see or prove it. A real expert would know it.
@somenobodyaspresident
@somenobodyaspresident 2 жыл бұрын
Hany Farid: "I'm a professor and I specialize in digital imaging forensics" Jack White: "You know, I'm something of an expert myself"
@brianarbenz7206
@brianarbenz7206 2 жыл бұрын
I've read six memes and three book jackets about photo retouching, so I know my stuff!
@rabbit251
@rabbit251 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianarbenz7206 You should be doing talk shows, such an expert! Don't get anything less than 10,000/show.
@ameersuliman6250
@ameersuliman6250 2 жыл бұрын
Hany Farid : Oh you can't do this to me.
@hejalll
@hejalll 2 жыл бұрын
What's so powerful about this video, is how they start it off by making the conspiracy seem plausible, likely even, showing all the arguments for the case. Then, they debunk all of it. For someone who's lost in the conspiracy, it's gonna be really hard to refute anything when they have presented all the evidence they would likely bring up, to begin with.
@swankybutters8371
@swankybutters8371 2 жыл бұрын
@@hejalll Go out and try it in the real sun and not on a computer and see what results you get...
@vickigraham1543
@vickigraham1543 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting and well-done presentation on the Oswald photo controversy.
@malligrub
@malligrub Жыл бұрын
That altered/unaltered test is not testing anything. It's just far too short a time to even register what you're looking at. If given 30+ seconds to examine each picture, the rate would be pretty close to 100% for those examples at least.
@lambdalambdalambda257
@lambdalambdalambda257 Жыл бұрын
I wish I could be as excited about anything as this man is about an authentic Life Magazine featuring Lee Harvey Oswald
@cmarbormaster
@cmarbormaster 10 ай бұрын
Get a girlfriend that understands you.
@anonymousapocalypse247
@anonymousapocalypse247 10 ай бұрын
😆😂
@willyboy6126
@willyboy6126 9 ай бұрын
I know that excitement, as I collect vintage magazines, etc., on Marilyn Monroe...so I can relate with obtaining sought after items!😊
@neonnoodle1169
@neonnoodle1169 8 ай бұрын
The way he reacted when he said wow the “original“ I thought he had the actual original photograph. It was only the magazine.
@louise_rose
@louise_rose 8 ай бұрын
It comes out of an interest in history, and wanting to see the stuff first-hand, the real originals. I feel a similar thrill watching uncut tv news footage from the hours just after the assassination, how the news items and rumours spread through the media, and how it snowballs from the first reports to the final, dire moment when Cronkite declares: "this just came in and it looks official: President Kennedy died around 1 p.m today at Parkland....".
@graemeosborne584
@graemeosborne584 7 ай бұрын
The post on the left of photo does not seem to have a shadow which matched oswalds shadow direction.
@rickdelagarza4ever
@rickdelagarza4ever Жыл бұрын
The scope is present in both photos. The second photo's quality was very poor, and the lighting made it hard to see. The shadows do line up.
@neutrivictoire.1833
@neutrivictoire.1833 2 жыл бұрын
Lesson learned: when intending to shoot someone, don't take a pic with the exact same gun
@jst6595
@jst6595 2 жыл бұрын
Right
@darrellboone9274
@darrellboone9274 2 жыл бұрын
Yet even 60 years later,criminals still brag about the crimes they just committed,and post these online😳
@gortbot7748
@gortbot7748 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know Oswald's rifle was really the murder weapon.? Because the Dallas PD and the FBI said so? The magic bullet was conveniently found on a stretcher after going through two people.
@pollard068
@pollard068 2 жыл бұрын
Don't let national Inquirer get pics of your murder shoes either -o.j.
@dylanmorgan2752
@dylanmorgan2752 2 жыл бұрын
@@gortbot7748 2 people after changing direction mid air and creating like 7 different wounds.
@JustSomeRandomIdiot
@JustSomeRandomIdiot 2 жыл бұрын
That point about how humans are unable to quickly see inconsistencies with lighting is important for 3D artists. A lot of the time, it doesn't matter if the shadows or reflections are 100% perfectly correct. What matters is: Does it *feel* correct? And something *feeling* correct is a totally different thing to something *being* correct. This is why 3D art is an art form, it's not an exact science. What *feels* correct is something you learn over time.
@StrawberryLegacy
@StrawberryLegacy 2 жыл бұрын
Not just 3D artists....
@xmoreno3366
@xmoreno3366 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@gavilletc1
@gavilletc1 Жыл бұрын
It would be very interesting to do the same analysis of the second photo that was taken. This could lead to elements for or against theories.
@peterfraser9070
@peterfraser9070 Жыл бұрын
Baloney.
@fos1451
@fos1451 11 ай бұрын
Bro just stop, stop wasting time
@hildavio
@hildavio Жыл бұрын
Did Vox notice the placement on the sling mounts on the rifle in the backyard photographs? They’re on the bottom of the stock of the rifle….the rifle taken out of the Depository 11/22 had the sling mounts on the sides of the stock …a different rifle
@MHTutorials3D
@MHTutorials3D 2 жыл бұрын
So he is actually holding a rifle. Where is the proof it is THE rifle ?
@bumblebeegamerreal
@bumblebeegamerreal 2 жыл бұрын
Hi verified, buying a channel huh? Edit: That was like a month ago where it was difficult to identify between verified and bought channels
@8BitRip
@8BitRip 2 жыл бұрын
@@bumblebeegamerreal after looking through the channel they seem to upload pretty regularly
@8BitRip
@8BitRip 2 жыл бұрын
@@bumblebeegamerrealit’s probably just him posting a comment
@anom3778
@anom3778 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like it?
@q12aw50
@q12aw50 2 жыл бұрын
The government can’t fill pot holes how can the kelp this massive thing a secret?
@maxbuster1508
@maxbuster1508 2 жыл бұрын
"Even presented with the facts, the controversy [...] persisted." In other news, the sky is blue.
@bussinboi23
@bussinboi23 2 жыл бұрын
*Ah, yes. The floor is made of floor.*
@TheSilmarillian
@TheSilmarillian 2 жыл бұрын
Except when it has been chem trailed :)
@ekevanderzee9538
@ekevanderzee9538 2 жыл бұрын
People STILL believe that Biden has won! ;-) [incredulous sarcasm]
@banjoist123
@banjoist123 2 жыл бұрын
Conspiracy theories are referred to as being "self sealing." The harder you try to disprove a thing, the more suspicious you appear, and this perceived intent is seen as proof of the conspiracy. You can't prove a negative, and these theories put the responsibility on the critic to disprove a thing. It's impossible to disprove that Oswald did not shoot Kennedy, and the harder you try, the more fuel you give the fire.
@bubblegum1948
@bubblegum1948 2 жыл бұрын
Another words if you touch water won’t be dry.
@NT-qj1sy
@NT-qj1sy Жыл бұрын
Why is Oswald"s chin clearly different? expert says. "shadows just sometimes look weird"
@robotbits87
@robotbits87 9 ай бұрын
reading the comments after watching the new Lemino video talking about this subject is pretty wild, people will reach so far for a conspiracy.
@starlight8554
@starlight8554 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly photo editing back then was pretty good. In history class we looked at some photos of Stalin with some powerful members of the party, but there were about 3 versions- Stalin had people removed from the photos as they fell out of favour with him.
@bubblingbubztheklown5902
@bubblingbubztheklown5902 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that is definitely interesting! I know what hole I'm going down next 😆
@starlight8554
@starlight8554 2 жыл бұрын
@@bubblingbubztheklown5902 it’s fascinating stuff
@starmorpheus
@starmorpheus 2 жыл бұрын
@@bubblingbubztheklown5902 Vox did a video on it a few years ago. Soviet Photo Doctering or something
@samimas4343
@samimas4343 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that but a military or intelligence entity- as theorized- would definitely have more advanced equipments and resources that wouldn't be available for the public for at least 10y. We see that all the time
@johnhill762
@johnhill762 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. People who think photo editing wasn’t possible the earlier part of the century are fools. There was clearly an ability there already.
@boulderarchitect
@boulderarchitect 2 жыл бұрын
As a graphic designer, I can say that people can’t recognize illumination inconsistencies well, which for my job, thank god.
@vernpascal1531
@vernpascal1531 Жыл бұрын
if something looks obviously screwy does that mean it is genuine. ? We've all seen thousands of photos of everything under the sun and never think" Gee that looks phony".
@danieleyre8913
@danieleyre8913 19 күн бұрын
As someone who grew up around guns and had myself and peers photographed holding them; I could never see anything wrong with the pictures.
@PJM454
@PJM454 Жыл бұрын
There is at least two light sources of that photo. If you look at the direction and length of the shadows cast by the wooden stairs above, behind and to the left of oswalds body, those shadows would be from a high source (probably the sun) almost directly overhead (noonish) and slightly to the left and behind Oswald because the step shadows are quite long compared to how much they actually protrude out. This is directly in contrast to oswalds shadow cast by his body which is "back and to the left" (no pun intended) in the photo which would say the light source is in front of Oswald and to the right (earlier morning perhaps depending on aspect of photographer). Either way the, the direction of shadow of the steps and the direction of the shadow cast by oswalds body cast two different directions, concluding either two light sources for the photo or Oswalds body and shadow were super imposed into that background photo.
@peterfraser9070
@peterfraser9070 Жыл бұрын
And yet the photo is real; so all that shadow and "back and to the left" stuff evaporates into nothing. Just like Kennedy's "back and to the left" muscle spasm; there is real-life evidence that he was hit from behind - only - so who cares about a muscle spasm?
@adoredpariah
@adoredpariah Жыл бұрын
The authenticity of this image has never really been a big thing to me personally, but now that you mention it the apparent chin differences are the most striking. It could just be the lighting, but they do look very different in the side by side images at 3:50
@w9shcl0thes
@w9shcl0thes Жыл бұрын
It could also easily be camera angles
@sodapop83
@sodapop83 9 ай бұрын
it's the angle or light. my chin looks different too on photos
@JohnNoZ35
@JohnNoZ35 Жыл бұрын
You should add that Oswald was shot to death by Jack Ruby, who it was revealed (in the late 1990's) had been working for the FBI. That adds a little interesting context to the story.
@bad74maverick1
@bad74maverick1 Жыл бұрын
And the fact that A mob boss being tapped for another crime talked about his outfits hand in killing Kennedy.
@paulmcgarrigle5531
@paulmcgarrigle5531 Жыл бұрын
Also ties with the mafia
@ejtattersall156
@ejtattersall156 Жыл бұрын
No, it doesn't. No, he wasn't.
@paulmcgarrigle5531
@paulmcgarrigle5531 Жыл бұрын
@@ejtattersall156 yes he was
@ejtattersall156
@ejtattersall156 Жыл бұрын
@@paulmcgarrigle5531 Nope. No link, it didn't happen. "On March 11, 1959, Ruby was approached by FBI agent Charles W. Flynn, of the Dallas Office, to become a federal informant ...Ruby was ... subsequently contacted by the FBI eight times between March 11, 1959, and October 2, 1959, but provided no information to the Bureau, was not paid, and contact ceased." Conspiracy religion is full of liars.
@huydho3173
@huydho3173 2 жыл бұрын
I had Professor Farid for an introductory CS class at Berkeley. His videos were amazing and he had great stories that he told the class!
@shanegreenslade7017
@shanegreenslade7017 9 ай бұрын
Rosco White stood like that. Both Photos of Oswald have the exact same image cropped on both pictures.
@dannelson3587
@dannelson3587 8 ай бұрын
Except the FBI could NOT find more than one palm print on rifle but several days later Dallas PD sends “another” fingerprint to the FBI lab 3 days later. How convenient. Let’s not forget the FBI went to the funeral home where Oswald’s body was taken and wanted additional fingerprints, even though Dallas PD had plenty to give the FBI.
@johnvinga5446
@johnvinga5446 5 ай бұрын
Right you are. The FBI planted the Oswald print. Authorities have no verified evidence linking Oswald to the gun found in the school book depository.
@catspaw3815
@catspaw3815 4 ай бұрын
yes, the funeral home director remembers washing the fingerprinting ink off Oz's hands
@BillHawkins0318
@BillHawkins0318 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked that professor. A very genuine guy with a pleasant demeanor. Happy about his magazine. Clearly with no hidden agenda. That being said if Oswald worked alone then there's not a cow in Texas.
@roinerov9348
@roinerov9348 2 жыл бұрын
So there is no cow there in Texas...too bad for the texans...
@BillHawkins0318
@BillHawkins0318 2 жыл бұрын
LoL.
@bwood1234qwert
@bwood1234qwert 2 жыл бұрын
No proof either way on if he worked alone. It's best to stick to the verifiable facts.
@fluff1353
@fluff1353 2 жыл бұрын
@@bwood1234qwert 😆😆😆
@vernpascal1531
@vernpascal1531 2 жыл бұрын
@@bwood1234qwert Which show obvious conspiracy in every crucial area.
@davedahl5126
@davedahl5126 Жыл бұрын
Some questions to consider: Why would Oswald go through the trouble to have these pictures taken of him holding up the soon to be murder weapon along with a newspaper? If in fact that is him in these pictures, his motivation would appear twofold: 1. Oswald would have intended for the authorities to discover these pics (in order to) 2. Clearly show that he was in fact the man who shot Kennedy. These pics scream- "Hello world! This is me proudly holding up the murder weapon in a recently taken photograph. Make no mistake, I'm the guy who shot Kennedy." Yet after his arrest, Oswald adamantly denies any involvement in the pics and the assassination?? Why go through the trouble to so blatantly implicate yourself only to deny afterwards? Where will that get you? The logic here does not match up.
@swankybutters8371
@swankybutters8371 Жыл бұрын
Oswald was most likely set up and the backyard photo was most likely Roscoe White.
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 Жыл бұрын
@@swankybutters8371 Roscoe White, yes. Friend of Oswalds in the Marines, hired by Dallas PD as a photo expert. White's wife and Oswald's wife lived together.
@swankybutters8371
@swankybutters8371 Жыл бұрын
@@nmarbletoe8210 I didn't know White's wife and Marina knew each other, I heard nothing about that, hummm. I'm also pretty sure that Roscoe was the knoll shooter, 70% to 80% sure... Same with the guy in the Records Building, I'm pretty sure he was the Oswald stand-in, in Mexico... 70% to 80% sure.
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 Жыл бұрын
@@swankybutters8371 Oh I think I got Mrs. White confused with Mrs. Paine.
@swankybutters8371
@swankybutters8371 Жыл бұрын
@@nmarbletoe8210 I have a feeling Roscoe knew Mrs Paine and most likely got her to get Oswald the job at the Book Depository... Paine might have even taken the back yard photos, maybe...
@xstalkrx
@xstalkrx Жыл бұрын
Why didn't they discuss the most talked about item in the picture, which is that the gun's sling is mounted in completely different spots in comparison to the weapon found at the Schoolbook Depository??????
@sagarpuri7838
@sagarpuri7838 2 жыл бұрын
Oswald would have never thought that how much people in the future would study him.
@sssunnyd7874
@sssunnyd7874 2 жыл бұрын
Oswald X)
@silence-humility-calmness
@silence-humility-calmness 2 жыл бұрын
oswald said he didn't do it,,,i believe him
@generalfred9426
@generalfred9426 2 жыл бұрын
@@silence-humility-calmness You do now that criminals lie right?
@silence-humility-calmness
@silence-humility-calmness 2 жыл бұрын
@@generalfred9426 but governments don't?
@generalfred9426
@generalfred9426 2 жыл бұрын
@@silence-humility-calmness Well whenever they try they get busted one way or another (looks at Watergate and Clinton affair)
@ohchord9573
@ohchord9573 2 жыл бұрын
I changed the comment so nobody knows what was return lol
@realkingxyro
@realkingxyro 2 жыл бұрын
Facts, it's a shame that I was this early.
@bonkybbonk348
@bonkybbonk348 2 жыл бұрын
There are?
@tripical
@tripical 2 жыл бұрын
One can say being first, may be a blessing and a curse 😉
@bonkybbonk348
@bonkybbonk348 2 жыл бұрын
@@asr4327 let me guess, that’s you
@oitubeman1019
@oitubeman1019 2 жыл бұрын
deep
@lightningmchick8948
@lightningmchick8948 9 ай бұрын
It would be more likely they planted his gun rather than editing a photo to put Oswald with his gun
@user-rt9zq8rs9k
@user-rt9zq8rs9k 6 ай бұрын
In one of the last videos conspiracy expert Jim Marrs made , he showed several examples of photos of Oswald's face that looked altered for mysterious reasons and said this is nothing new in the spy business .
@JamesBu11
@JamesBu11 2 жыл бұрын
Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. Except that Oswald taking an assassins photo just before he shot the Pres is hardly improbable.
@jacobjones5269
@jacobjones5269 2 жыл бұрын
Especially considering dozen of photographic experts have concluded the photos are genuine.. And Oswald gave an autographed copy to a friend.. AND Marina, to this very day, will tell you she took those photos.. lol, smh.. The loons went ‘round the bend long ago..
@underwaterlaser1687
@underwaterlaser1687 2 жыл бұрын
JamesBu11 Nice Sherlock Homes quote.
@laartwork
@laartwork 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Not impossible. So he did it.
@RomanZolanski123
@RomanZolanski123 2 жыл бұрын
@@underwaterlaser1687 haha my bad I thought it was 1984
@notabene7381
@notabene7381 2 жыл бұрын
JFK to 9/11: Everything Is a Rich Man's Trick (Documentary /watch?v=9Wf3O93I4lI) September 11: The New Pearl Harbor (Documentary /watch?v=Rq9nUPs2RAk)
@JoeyyyBoyyy
@JoeyyyBoyyy 2 жыл бұрын
In portrait photography the way the angles of the light source makes people's faces look different is one of the first things you learn about which I'm surprised people didn't pick up more on at the time.
@jsc1222
@jsc1222 Жыл бұрын
The top lab in the country, working with the Cia was involved in editing films of the assassination, why would they not assist in the photos?
@michaelcampin1464
@michaelcampin1464 Жыл бұрын
I can use a bolt action rifle as a Royal Marine but I even after years of practise I could not get 3 rounds off in that time and hit a moving target at that distance
@brucewayne2035
@brucewayne2035 Жыл бұрын
You underestimate your talents 😏
@nightmare-lw9sp
@nightmare-lw9sp Жыл бұрын
there were a few different peoples --not only Oswald---and they shoot target from different distances
@michaelcampin1464
@michaelcampin1464 Жыл бұрын
@@nightmare-lw9sp i totally agree with you I couldnt get those shots off even though I trained and trained and trained more on bolt action rifles on static targets yet alone moving ones.
@Helperbot-2000
@Helperbot-2000 Жыл бұрын
skill issue real talk
@troodon1096
@troodon1096 Жыл бұрын
He was an expert marksman, and he had a near perfect vantage point. Maybe you couldn't have, but that doesn't mean he couldn't have.
@wirelesmike73
@wirelesmike73 2 жыл бұрын
As an artist, I could never understand what was supposed to be "off" about the photo. When people would point out what they saw as "off", it never looked odd to me. Other than his stance, everything seemed to line up. I always wrote off his posture as him striking a cocky Barney Fife-esque pose while holding a gun that was heavy for someone his size in a weird way.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 2 жыл бұрын
@Pol Pot 2024 lots of practice studying and drawing light and shadow perhaps? Just something that seems vaguely related
@Gquain
@Gquain 2 жыл бұрын
Nah i am a kindergardener and i also find that image to be genuine. In my field of work, i am often faced with many people striking odd poses out on the field while carrying objects too heavy for their sizes. Once people believe what they imagine, they will proclaim them as facts.
@quitted7276
@quitted7276 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gquain a w h a t
@Dollymix001
@Dollymix001 2 жыл бұрын
Oh look im pretending to be an artist to make you think that my opinion counts more, while i try to confirm the official narrative.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 2 жыл бұрын
Wow the actual conspiracy theorists have found this video!
@Micksprint
@Micksprint 2 жыл бұрын
This doesn't prove Oswald shot Kennedy.
@BearlyAnything
@BearlyAnything Жыл бұрын
That’s the point
@mikenorton632
@mikenorton632 Жыл бұрын
All of the rest of the evidence does!
@Pound_Shift
@Pound_Shift Жыл бұрын
“The many faces of Oswald”is much better then this video
@Letsgetiton41
@Letsgetiton41 Жыл бұрын
@@mikenorton632 really
@Letsgetiton41
@Letsgetiton41 Жыл бұрын
One thing I'll never understand is this how did Oswald get from the second floor lunch room to the sixth floor do his deed and get back down again without being seen bear in mind the building would have been buzzing with people going to and grow with the president arriving and no one seen Oswald I find that hard to believe.
@craycraywolf6726
@craycraywolf6726 Жыл бұрын
The sheer amount of conspiracy theorists in here are cracking me up. And they're all so angry 😂
@9Ballr
@9Ballr 2 ай бұрын
"He said someone had set him up, "I'm just a patsy." Actually, when Oswald said he was a patsy he wasn't saying that someone had set him up, he was saying that he had been arrested just because he had lived in the Soviet Union.
@waknuk
@waknuk Ай бұрын
This is one of the biggest deceptions from the conspiracy people. They never quote Oswald's full statement, which was "They’ve taken me in because of the fact that I lived in the Soviet Union. I’m just a patsy."
@chengyiq3066
@chengyiq3066 2 жыл бұрын
Man, this assassination truly alter the course of the history
@asr4327
@asr4327 2 жыл бұрын
🔴SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE VOX
@laartwork
@laartwork 2 жыл бұрын
It avoided a nuclear holocaust... according to Red Dwarf episode, late 80's Twilight Zone, Stephen King book.
@nationalsocialist5526
@nationalsocialist5526 2 жыл бұрын
@@laartwork Why are you afraid of death
@edwardgeorge4881
@edwardgeorge4881 2 жыл бұрын
They killed a president of the United States!🤺
@hezbollah944
@hezbollah944 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the father of American policing, August Vollmer, went and taught at UC Berkeley. He was the first and only police chief to do so and nearly single handedly introduced forensics into modern policing.
@JayNJayeTv
@JayNJayeTv 9 ай бұрын
Why not ask Marina? She supposedly took the photo. She lives in Texas.
@paganphil100
@paganphil100 5 ай бұрын
@JayNJayeTv: They did. She said she did take a photo of LHO with his weapons but not that photo.....she said the one she took showed LHO standing in another part of the yard.
@darrellepickering8433
@darrellepickering8433 7 ай бұрын
It's a surplus weapon & there was a carbine version also. Lastly that pix shows nothing of seriial numbers so the only thing it proves it's a similar rifle. 1 other thing, the bolt had a straight handle unless it was heated & bent to allow for clearance.
@zahirsookoor2673
@zahirsookoor2673 2 жыл бұрын
If there's every a Harvey Oswalt movie, Charlie Puth should play him.
@craigopperman4096
@craigopperman4096 2 жыл бұрын
the photo even if it is Oswald is NOT "JFKs killer". Oswald never went to trial or was convicted and there were 2 rifles found on the 6th floor. Also, an employee working at the time said she was standing near the bottom of the stairs that lead to the 6th floor of the school book depository and said Oswald never went up or came down the stairs anytime before or after the assassination. The Warren commission did not report the two rifles found, only the rifle Oswald owned which by itself isn't foolproof evidence, especially considering all the evidence and witness testimony that was ignored by the FBI and the Warren commission.
@banjohombre7252
@banjohombre7252 2 жыл бұрын
Just ONE rifle was found. It was misidentified.
@dukecash309
@dukecash309 Жыл бұрын
Yes the government had jfk killed how had the most to gain from JFK's death Johnson and big business all the weapon and war material from a 10 long war they didn't want to win Johnson wife own a construction company that did a whole lot of work in Vietnam
@emmasanders6226
@emmasanders6226 Жыл бұрын
And the select committee.
@emmasanders6226
@emmasanders6226 Жыл бұрын
@@banjohombre7252 So they say
@robertromero8692
@robertromero8692 Жыл бұрын
“there were 2 rifles found on the 6th floor.” Wrong. Only one rifle was found. You have no evidence for another one. “an employee working at the time said she was standing near the bottom of the stairs that lead to the 6th floor of the school book depository and said Oswald never went up or came down the stairs anytime before or after the assassination.” Victoria Adams was mistaken in her estimate of the time and must have used the back staircase a few minutes after Oswald’s descent (as well as Truly and Baker’s ascension), based on the fact that she saw Depository foreman William Shelley and employee Billy Lovelady as soon as she reached the first floor. Both men told authorities in 1964 that they were outside the Depository at the time of the shots, ran to the railroad yards immediately thereafter, and didn’t reenter the building until a few minutes later. Adams testified she left the building by the rear loading dock (after encountering Shelley and Lovelady), made her way around to the front of the building, and heard a report (later proved incorrect) over a nearby police radio that shots were thought to have been fired from the second or fourth floor of the Depository (6 H 391). The two earliest such reports were made over channel 2, one at 12:39 and the other at 12:40 p.m.-nine to ten minutes after the shooting (NAS-CBA DPD tapes, C2, 12:39-40 p.m.)-which is not only consistent with the statements of Shelley and Lovelady, but also strongly suggestive, all by itself, that Adams didn’t come down the back stairs immediately after the shooting, as she claimed. Eddie Piper told the Commission that he was standing near the back elevators when Truly and Baker ran over, unsuccessfully tried to call one of the elevators down, and dashed up the stairs. Piper stated that “nobody” came down the stairs before Truly and Baker went up, which Adams and Styles would have done if they had come down the stairs immediately. When Piper was specifically asked, “Did you see Vicky Adams come down the steps . . . before Truly and the man [Baker] went up the steps?” he responded, “No, sir, no, sir. She didn’t do it”
@ParkTheGoalie
@ParkTheGoalie 7 ай бұрын
See how they leave out the big mark above his head that doesn’t ahow up in any other photo
@paulthomasross9516
@paulthomasross9516 5 ай бұрын
This researcher has always thought the photo was too ridiculously convenient. Plus it was found in the home of the Paines - a couple whose involvement with the Oswalds was awfully peculiar. It's not much of a stretch to suspect Michael Paine (not Oswald) as the man photographed behind the Neely Street house. Over the years the Paines certainly have done their part to steer the public's perceptions of Oswald as guilty (as the good, obedient agents they likely are/were).
@arfalberg
@arfalberg 2 жыл бұрын
You should check the scale on the chart you talk about at 10:37. You say 50% of the time when the scale clearly showes 65%. Meaning an increased accuracy of only 5% instead of the 20% you state in the video.
@jacobjones5269
@jacobjones5269 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, how do those figures change when we go ask Marina if she took the photos, and she answers yes?!.. Like she has always maintained?.. lol..
@Vox
@Vox 2 жыл бұрын
Good catch! Thanks, we added a correction.
@xrizbira
@xrizbira 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobjones5269 you accept it as fact, because she said it ?
@jacobjones5269
@jacobjones5269 2 жыл бұрын
@@xrizbira I accept it because literally dozens of forensic photographic experts say they’re genuine.. And I believe Marina for a few reasons.. One, she’s never wavered from that statement, and she’ll tell you today, if you ask her, that she took the pics… Even though she’s a conspiracy believer.. And secondly, if they are genuine, which they are, then who is the most likely person to have taken the pics?..
@xrizbira
@xrizbira 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobjones5269 now tell me why he killed JFK ? This is like the umbrella man, he just protesting why he had a black umbrella. A protest that he is the only one who understand it, but accepted as valid and fact. Too many coincid3nce for it not to be a conspiracy
@ProGamer-qq3nl
@ProGamer-qq3nl 2 жыл бұрын
Just remember, “Nothing bad happens to the Kennedys!”
@abrahamlincoln8037
@abrahamlincoln8037 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@TheTwick
@TheTwick 2 жыл бұрын
…Kennedys
@abrahamlincoln8037
@abrahamlincoln8037 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTwick yes
@hassananwar9833
@hassananwar9833 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTwick his brother was going to run for president but was also shot
@TheTwick
@TheTwick 2 жыл бұрын
@@abrahamlincoln8037 typical Kennedy’s graciousness
@glengrieve544
@glengrieve544 2 ай бұрын
Great content and beautifully presented thanks for showing this great video
@barrodexteriit.9301
@barrodexteriit.9301 2 жыл бұрын
Vox, great video! One question though, did the professor got to keep the copy of Life Magazine?
@antoniusweezel876
@antoniusweezel876 2 жыл бұрын
I like that his first response to being handed that magazine was "Yeah i'm going to keep this"
@madison7302
@madison7302 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting piece! I think the last point the guy makes is particularly important - how on earth could any entity alter photos so perfectly using early 60's optical techniques, to the point that they would stand up to scrutiny from technology that wouldn't even be invented for decades?
@Nhamp2000
@Nhamp2000 8 ай бұрын
Didn't Marina say that she took the pictures? Every depiction I've seen has her taking them.
@AMC2283
@AMC2283 8 ай бұрын
Either way it’s evidence of nothing from dealy plaza
@BullToTheShit
@BullToTheShit 3 ай бұрын
Your question is so easy to google.
@Uwort
@Uwort 8 ай бұрын
Some where I read Oswald had worked at a photographic studio and asked a coemployee how to alter photos . Can it be that Oswald doctored the photo, himself.
@Yellowsnow69420
@Yellowsnow69420 2 жыл бұрын
“At some point you get to the end and you say ‘ok.’ The only plausible explanation is that it’s authentic, and you have to move on.” 🤔 “…He’s in on it.”
@bubblingbubztheklown5902
@bubblingbubztheklown5902 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahhaaaaaa! Yeh he explained everything too thoroughly... hmmm... must be on on it. (I can't say I didn't have this thought 😬)
@Yellowsnow69420
@Yellowsnow69420 2 жыл бұрын
@@bubblingbubztheklown5902 haha. Yep. “Plausible, huh? A little _too_ plausible.”
@bubblingbubztheklown5902
@bubblingbubztheklown5902 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yellowsnow69420 that's exactly what I said to my husband!
@chasestankievech
@chasestankievech 2 жыл бұрын
I let out a chuckle when the professor mentioned “back and to the right”
@Lion-O-Richie2040
@Lion-O-Richie2040 2 жыл бұрын
Shut up and stop posting this eveywhwre
@longfield0023
@longfield0023 2 жыл бұрын
Why is someone's murder funny?
@chasestankievech
@chasestankievech 2 жыл бұрын
Ever see the movie JFK? It overemphasized parts of the case, and that’s a famous line from it. Became so popular it was even parodied in a Seinfeld episode
@kevinyoungblood6410
@kevinyoungblood6410 2 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@Demiglitch
@Demiglitch 2 жыл бұрын
@@longfield0023 If you've never seen Seinfeld, just say you missed out on a cultural touchstone and go away.
@hunterdunaway1354
@hunterdunaway1354 Жыл бұрын
Care to explain why the rifle Oswald holds has sling mounts under the weapon, but the one the police showed had side mounted swivels?
@KdHinken
@KdHinken Жыл бұрын
Wow those shadows, definitely couldn't be a secondary light source, as is common when taking photos...but na, deff be tampered with 😅
@damonstephens2833
@damonstephens2833 3 ай бұрын
I know, when taking a random photo I often get my lights out during the day to better light a photo.
@patricknez7258
@patricknez7258 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the photo is the least compelling aspect of the Kennedy assassination conspiracy.
@jonathandelossantos9332
@jonathandelossantos9332 2 жыл бұрын
Same, I wasn’t even aware of it. To throw more gas on this fire, it’s interesting that only the flimsiest aspects of the conspiracy are mentioned and hyper-analyzed in popular media. Me and the House Select Committee on Assassinations who concluded that JFK’s death was probably the result of a conspiracy are just weirdos I guess.
@generalfred9426
@generalfred9426 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathandelossantos9332 The House Committee's evidence of "conspiracy" were based on audio recordings taken by Dallas Policeman that didn't synchronize properly. Those findings were refuted with the House Committee not finding any evidence that any group was part of conspiracy which meant that Oswald acted alone.
@Demiglitch
@Demiglitch 2 жыл бұрын
That's the point. They produce a large amount of very small details that don't match up to corroborate their hypothesis and it takes time and effort to debunk each one. At which point they jump to the next one and say "despite that being false, the rest checks out!"
@albertopalma1663
@albertopalma1663 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathandelossantos9332 Not really, you're not. The weird ones are those who believe what the WC report says. Your conclusions are right.
@albertopalma1663
@albertopalma1663 2 жыл бұрын
@@generalfred9426 He did not because he couldn't. Go back and see what JFK did. His actions made some people angry.
@HR-sz5ql
@HR-sz5ql 2 жыл бұрын
Oswald wasn’t benefiter of jfk death. Somebody in high level was.
@OzaMusikTV
@OzaMusikTV 2 жыл бұрын
Lyndon, he got to become president, Texas is his place and the Mafia helped
@dmprdctns
@dmprdctns Жыл бұрын
Thanks... Interesting... But, what about the discovery of 2 additional photos found in someone else's attic? This report came from a documentary in the 1990s called, "The Men Who Killed Kennedy." Or, am I mistaken...? Thanks again...
@mikev4621
@mikev4621 9 ай бұрын
The chin still looks wider than Oswald's
@codename1079
@codename1079 2 жыл бұрын
When something comes into question, like government "conspiracies", the investigation shouldn't be headed by the same organisation in question.
@izraulhidashi4323
@izraulhidashi4323 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, dear sirs, I have thoroughly investigated all the accusations against me, and in doing so I found no wrongdoing on my behalf. Believe me ...I really tried to find it but sadly I did not. It seems it was a simple misunderstanding ... a witch hunt if you will.
@idek6585
@idek6585 Жыл бұрын
Technically the Warren commission was entirely separate, however that doesn't prevent agencies from interfering still
@izraulhidashi4323
@izraulhidashi4323 Жыл бұрын
@@idek6585 Exactly. And agencies like the FBI & CIA withhold information & evidence which is a form obstruction
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 Жыл бұрын
@@idek6585 Appointed by one of the conspirators, the commission was not independent.
@rayaussie8325
@rayaussie8325 Жыл бұрын
Never ,ever shod it be investigated by the same agencies. Reminds me of too much about the FBI And President Biden's associations with the LEFT WING and the FBI. ooooh Too Creepy.
@sodapop83
@sodapop83 2 жыл бұрын
2 things - rifle strap is completley different on the 2 guns - oswald's is on the bottom of the barrel & stock, the one they found has the strap embedded in the middle of the barrel & in the stock why didn't this expert notice that oswald's wedding ring no show where he holds the papers, shows when he holds the rifle on the 2nd photo? there's a 3rd photo where he holds the rifle in his right hand again the the ring shows again but on the other hand!! very weird
@dthomas9230
@dthomas9230 Жыл бұрын
Mirror image of the 1st rifle photo? It would switch hands and sides for the rifle.
@rdarkmind
@rdarkmind Жыл бұрын
1. You can't see the wedding ring because the image is grainy, doesn't mean it's not there. 2. The other hand has his Marine ring on it.
@patricelauverjon2856
@patricelauverjon2856 Жыл бұрын
Past detailing brings truth forward!
@johndust8296
@johndust8296 Жыл бұрын
The video doesn’t consider that it could have been Oswald’s double who was photographed and not in fact Oswald.
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 Жыл бұрын
possibly michael paine, although i think it was actually Oswald's head on someone else's body, maybe roscoe white fairly good chance paine was the Oswald who shot Tippit
@dbhllproductions6544
@dbhllproductions6544 Жыл бұрын
I actually have that life magazine in the video. I got that one along with some others from the 40s-60s and a newspaper from the day JFK was assassinated from my Grandmom
@talhambleton8916
@talhambleton8916 Жыл бұрын
thats awesome. i love original cool stuff like that
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 Жыл бұрын
I hear that Life was going to run a story that month on corruption of LBJ, but the other events obviously took precedence.
@sbenzdagamer
@sbenzdagamer Жыл бұрын
nice
@2A-Bear-Arms
@2A-Bear-Arms Жыл бұрын
@@nmarbletoe8210 Correct.
@dheiyomain6775
@dheiyomain6775 2 жыл бұрын
"Oh you have the original" "Can i keep this"
@WhyForWhatNow
@WhyForWhatNow 5 ай бұрын
10:35 before you said the stats i was thinking, "thats not long enough to compare id just be choosing 50/50" 😅
@HullzOSRS
@HullzOSRS 9 ай бұрын
It's the same with all conspiracy theories. Producing "evidence" from a conclusion instead of a conclusion from evidence.
@rileym7650
@rileym7650 2 жыл бұрын
the real psyop is thinking this photo has anything at all to do with the central question of who killed kenedy
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 Жыл бұрын
you got it
@safe-keeper1042
@safe-keeper1042 2 жыл бұрын
I know this won't sway the conspiracy theorists, but it's really enlightening for the rest of us, and it probably helps convince fence-sitters. Thank you so much, love debunks like this.
@DaveWraptastic
@DaveWraptastic 2 жыл бұрын
I'm fully on board on something very fishy happening with the JFK murder, including the possibility that Oswald didn't shoot him at all. It does seem like the picture is real but that is hardly evidence of him killing the president. It doesn't change my views on the JFK murder being something different than what we were told.
@jacobjones5269
@jacobjones5269 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody can put the rifle in Oswald’s hands while it’s being fired, so I don’t think anyone who believes in a conspiracy can ever be convinced it wasn’t.. However, there’s no doubt Lee was a cop killer.. Theres witnesses and evidence strewn across 6 city blocks.. The most damaging being the jacket the alleged killer discarded under a car 3 blocks from the murder scene.. And the reason is, nobody can reasonably claim the jacket was planted, because nobody knew a cop would be murdered right there and right then.. And they certainly wouldn’t know an escape route that didn’t exist until the killer stopped shooting.. And consequently, conspiracy believers have no answer for why the jacket is there.. The alleged killer’s movement were tracked by 14 witnesses at the scene, or along Patton St.. 11 of them said it was Oswald.. 2said it looked a lot like Oswald, and one said he didn’t get a good enough look to ID anyone.. 2of these witnesses followed the killer when he turned on Jefferson St.. At a distance, because he was armed.. And they lost him near a Texaco gas station/ used car lot.. Another witness see the same man in the Texaco parking lot.. All 3 said the alleged killer was wearing a light colored jacket, and all 3 said it was Oswald they saw.. And remember, WE KNOW this person murdered the officer, because he was never out of sight from witnesses along his escape route, until Reynolds and Patterson lose him at the Texaco.. And immediately after, Mary Brock sees him in the Texaco parking lot, wasp king briskly towards the back of the parking lot… Where a light colored jacket is found.. The jacket, itself, is IDed by Marina Oswald as Lee Oswald’s jacket.. And fibers on the inside lining matched the shirt Oswald was arrested in.. And this was an unusual shirt, with a spectrum of 75 colors, per thread, ranging from brown to yellow.. And of course, Oswald is arrested without his jacket, which we know he was wearing.. A light colored Eisenhower jacket.. Now, there’s only one reason why Lee would be discarding his jacket in that parking lot.. The jacket is devastating evidence.. It buttresses the shells and proves they weren’t switched, and it buttresses the IDs, which conspiracy believes always gripe about.. Most definitely a cop killer.. How that effects your thought on JFK is up to you..
@jacobjones5269
@jacobjones5269 2 жыл бұрын
The jacket was found about the same time Oswald was arrested.. And he was arrested without a jacket.. What did he do with HIS JACKET, if the one found wasn’t his?.. Did 2 people toss their jackets that afternoon?.. Both light colored?.. Both looking enough like Oswald that 14 witnesses, none of whom said it wasn’t Oswald, got it wrong?!.. lol.. And we know it wasn’t switched in police custody, because Capt Westbrook took possession of the jacket at the scene, from under a car, and he later IDed the jacket to the Warren Commission as the jacket he found.. Lol.. Do you really make excuses for cop killers?.. Just so you can feel smart?..
@jacobjones5269
@jacobjones5269 2 жыл бұрын
The man in that parking lot was the killer of Officer Tippit.. And the 3 witnesses who place the killer in or around that parking lot said it was Oswald.. He’s arrested with the pistol that matched the shells at the scene.. He was arrested with extra shells OF BOTH TYPES the killer used to murder Officer Tippit, Remington and Winchester.. lol.. And 11 of 14 witnesses of this event, or it’s aftermath, said Oswald was the man they saw.. And of the remaining 3?.. 2 said it looked a lot like Oswald, and the final guy said he didn’t get a good enough look to ID anyone.. NONE OF THEM said it wasn’t Oswald.. He woulda got sent to the chair after 15 minutes jury deliberation with evidence like that against him.. He’s guilty..
@AlchemistOfHecate
@AlchemistOfHecate 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe this is what they want you to think
@Globerson
@Globerson 7 ай бұрын
Two things can be true at once - it’s a real photo, he was coached and framed for the assassination.
@USSA.
@USSA. 9 ай бұрын
Meanwhile.... Bigfoot is feeling a little lonely.
@missyp.1338
@missyp.1338 7 ай бұрын
Since when does having a picture taken holding whatever "murder weapon" or evidence automaticly make one guilty? For argument...lets say they photo is indeed legit. Soooooooooo? I have dozens of pictures sitting in my car...would that make me automatically guity had someone been hit with it?? Not a chance.
@jetcat132
@jetcat132 4 ай бұрын
Throw the picture out. Go ahead, throw it out. Now let’s talk about the mountain of other evidence that says Oswald did indeed do it, and the non existence of anything substantial that says he didn’t. Thats where it gets real for you guys, and you just won’t admit it.
@cheez1012
@cheez1012 Жыл бұрын
That still doesn't explain why exactly the newspapers edited the magazine covers though... What general purpose does it serve in removing the scope of a gun?
@P4DR
@P4DR 2 жыл бұрын
Someone taking a picture holding a firearm, especially in a state like Texas, is not evidence of guilt.
@JohnJohnson-pq4qz
@JohnJohnson-pq4qz Жыл бұрын
no , but its supposed to be.
@robertromero8692
@robertromero8692 Жыл бұрын
It's supporting evidence for the overwhelming case against Oswald.
@JohnJohnson-pq4qz
@JohnJohnson-pq4qz Жыл бұрын
@@robertromero8692 There is no "overwhelming case" against LHO and never was. Firstly, we seem to keep forgetting that the official position of the US government is that there probably WAS a conspiracy. AS found by the HSCA in 1979. The next official body to look into the JFK assassination was the AARB. Its chief council would be one of the world's leading experts on the case having taken hundreds of witness depositions and seen documents few others have. I would think his opinion would be definitive. He stated: “I am convinced that Oswald would have been found ‘not guilty’. Beyond a reasonable doubt, to me there is no question, he is "not guilty" beyond a reasonable doubt.” - Jeremy Gunn, Chief Council for the Assassination Records Review Board . And dont get me started on the "JFK challenge" created by Barry Kursch to settle the matter in front of a neutral , profesional arbitration board. No person claiming an "overwhelming case" against LHO has taken the challange-NOT one. Considering that the winner gets from 55,000$ to a Million dollars you would think such an easy case would have some takers......
@robertromero8692
@robertromero8692 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnJohnson-pq4qz “Jeremy Gunn, Chief Council for the Assassination Records Review Board” Spare me the argument from authority. Plenty of other legal experts have declared Oswald guilty. In fact, he WAS found guilty in London with a real Dallas judge and jury, a real prosecutor, a real defense attorney, and real witnesses.
@P4DR
@P4DR Жыл бұрын
@@robertromero8692 that was not a real trial. It was a show trial for TV.
@PapiBocaChula
@PapiBocaChula Жыл бұрын
Well the Zauper film was definitely tampered with.
@AnthonyBurrough
@AnthonyBurrough 11 ай бұрын
They did a Superb job of framing that Man.
@brisag5559
@brisag5559 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so happy and inspired when I see people so passionate about their work, what a cool professor!!
@vernpascal1531
@vernpascal1531 Жыл бұрын
Yes let's spin this and pretend Oswald Acted Alone which is impossible.
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