Why Pete Alonso and the New York Mets NEED Each Other

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Ай бұрын

The New York Mets saw their seven-game winning streak snapped on Wednesday, despite Pete Alonso's two-run homer.
Host Ryan Finkelstein talks about the game and the end of the streak.
Also, do the Mets and Pete Alonso need each other long-term?
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@steveninsinna1743 Ай бұрын

Great show again Ryan. I trust the new Mets FO to make the correct moves going forward. I was not confident in previous FO staff. Mets are in great hands going forward.😊

@LockedOnMets Ай бұрын

Thanks for tuning in!

@johncummings5350 Ай бұрын

You're not going to find anyone to replace Pete's production. Good luck to Mets fans expecting more from his spot in the lineup. That doesn't mean Pete can't be traded if the price is right. It just means they will miss his presence and i wouldn't suggest they make a move unless its a phenomenal return. Its very hard to imagine Soto signing with the Mets. The Yankees will be diligent in locking him down and he's having a fantastic year with a team that has a winning history. Add to that the fact that he'd have Yankee fans constantly voicing their displeasure at him for going to their crosstown rival.......i think the contract offer would have to be significantly higher to get him in a Mets uniform. Add to that the short porch in right field at Yankee Stadium and it only seems more likely he remains in pinstripes.

@GeraldM_inNC Ай бұрын

It's a matter of spending money effectively. You don't allot double the salary to obtain 15% more production.

@philipmoreno358 Ай бұрын

David sterns is not the gm to give out pillow contracts based off prior accomplishments he will pay players based off what they will do in the future those days are over paying for guys who are over the hill

@Nakakan1993 Ай бұрын

I think we can keep Pete. We just have to see him for what he is, which is not the superstar we try to force him to be. He’s a great home run hitter and sometimes reliable. That’s it. Pay him as such. And keep him in the 3 spot

@jaymuse127 Ай бұрын

Drew......perfect explaination of your tweet

@Unconsciouzone Ай бұрын

Shohei Otani has 91 hits in 288 AB's Alonso has 68 in 280 AB's Mark Vientos 32 hits in 101 Ab's Since Batting average ia an anethma to millenials I used the plain English version. Mostly what I want to indicate here is the huge cavity Alonso represents in the middle of the lineup even when he's performing average. (which he is at the moment only 7 points down from his career numbers) It's no coincidence that as soon as a reliable .300 hitter was moved in front of him. (Not behind for "protection" like everyone was clamoring for this offseason) The Mets started scoring in bunches. The host keeps waiting for Pete to "come around" i get it. Blind loyalty is sometimes part of being a fan. Time for this host to realize that WYSIWYG with Pete. We have a large enough sample size to know that he is what he is. In fact his .270 campaign is in danger of becoming an outlier.

@emiliothepoet Ай бұрын

Agreed no matter the run he’s on trade him. I think he’ll play in a hitter friendly, West coast team and his numbers will increase but he’s not correct for the Mets. I’d sell high on him and Jeff and I think that’s why he was in the line up cause Iglesias was hitting .400 when he was benched

@Unconsciouzone Ай бұрын

@@emiliothepoet *Nods. I love Pete as a number five. He has the perfect profile for it. What i don't want to see is the Mets giving him #4 money in addition to clogging up that four hole with that unclutch .250 for years to come. Alvarez is just a pup and he's already showing signs of being a better clutch performer. Let some other team play homerun roullette with this guiy, I'd rather a clutch single when we actually need it.

@GeraldM_inNC Ай бұрын

I hate Analytics. Nothing matters but homers. Stolen bases , bunts and batting average aren't positives, strikeouts aren't negatives, and a walk is as good as a hit. If you had said such things to a longtime baseball professional in the 20th Century he would have said you are an idiot.

@benjaminwalters7800 Ай бұрын

Question would be can the Mets get a better trade package than a 4th round pick for Alonso. I think if the Mets paid his full salary and maybe even packaged him with someone like Severino that the Mets could get a good return for him that would help the Mets more long term. The Mets don’t have a deep farm system with a lot of top quality major league ready talent. Mets should pick the best offer of prospects that are major league ready and do the deal.

@fr2ncm9 Ай бұрын

YES! The Mets are not a juggernaut. If they want to build a championship-caliber team, they need to build from within. This is not a championship-caliber team. In order to contend with, and beat teams like the Dodgers and the Phillies, they need to develop young, talented core players.

@fr2ncm9 Ай бұрын

Selloff at the deadline. The Mets still have Vientos, Alvarez, Mauricio and Baty. Not to mention players like Jett Williams, Acunua, Christian Scott, and Jonah Tong. If they do it right, the Mets could be a true, long-term championship-caliber team like the Phillies.

@mikelee7318 Ай бұрын

Ryan O’Hearn as the long side of a platoon. Against lefties Vientos starts at 1B and Mauricio takes 3B or maybe Baty if he can fix his swing in AAA and become the player we thought he would be. O’Hearn can play corner OF as well…..positional flexibility is never a bad thing.

@lordt78 Ай бұрын

You is buggin'! The Mets don't need Pete, they need winning baseball players!

@ericB3444 Ай бұрын

Bring in freeman

@mamalannightshyaman Ай бұрын

@@ericB3444can you at least say something realistic?

@mamalannightshyaman Ай бұрын

Pete Alonso has the the team record most game winning rbi in a season. You know how hard it is to find a guy who hits 40/100 in their sleep?

@ericB3444 Ай бұрын

@@mamalannightshyaman did somebody say 230 average

@ericB3444 Ай бұрын

@@mamalannightshyaman realistic? The moon is cheese.

@maxschuldes913 Ай бұрын

Can't win em all boys. On to the next

@wilwhite8557 Ай бұрын

CAN SOMEONE TEACH PETE HOW TO THROW!!🫣😵‍💫

@lordt78 Ай бұрын

He was channeling his inner Lucas Duda!

@Manatti06 Ай бұрын

you are grossly forgetting Clifford in double A who is Raking as we speak. he is a 1st basemen and lefty. If anything, Alonso should become dh after next year.

@MaddMan621 Ай бұрын

I dont know why they didnt use Nunez in that spot. He's been lights out and hasnt pitched since last Saturday.

@jamesbuckley8917 Ай бұрын

Out(illness) with a sinus infection.

@jamesbuckley8917 Ай бұрын

Manaea got squeezed by the ump in the 1st, lost his cool a bit, then refocused and pitched well.

@aharonbrand8044 Ай бұрын

The Mets should find away to win two games against the cubs one game against the Bronx bomber's sweep away Astros

@Sgbm72 Ай бұрын

I agree! Pete would be hard to be replaced on the field and off the field also

@lucasm7177 Ай бұрын

So many people forget about how hard it is to do what Pete has already done. Think about all the busts we have had. Conforto, Ike Davis, Wilmer Flores, Lucas Duda, I know I'm forgetting some other recent players but Pete has produced and produced in our ball park which is incredibly difficult. If he can hit 50 bombs here, I hate to say it but what do you think he could do at god forbid but Philly or Yankee Stadium? He could probably hit 70 HRs at those small ball parks...

@Unconsciouzone Ай бұрын

If I were to convert half his homers to extra-base hits and left everything else the same (including RBI's) Then I stripped his name from the baseball card and slid it over to you. What does it look like when you take the snetimentality and the overvaluation of homers out of the equation?

@TaintedStaff Ай бұрын

No we can let Pete go I'm perfectly fine with that. We can keep him if he become's Aaron Judge but that ain't happening.

@LockedOnMets Ай бұрын

He’ll never be Judge, unfortunately for us. But even when he struggles he’s still one of the premier power hitters in the game. You don’t come by those easily.

@jamesbuckley8917 Ай бұрын

Inherited Runners(IR) & Inherited Runners Who Scored(IR_S) stats are on MLB's player stat page.

@jamesbuckley8917 Ай бұрын

Under Advanced Career Stats

@LockedOnMets Ай бұрын

You have saved me so much time in the future. I have no idea why I never saw that before!

@aharonbrand8044 Ай бұрын

Good luck with that

@jamesbuckley8917 Ай бұрын

Here are the 2024 Inherited Runners & Inherited Runners Who Scored for Mets relievers: IR IR_S D. Smith 15 7(47%) Garrett 14 6(43%) Ottavino 6 0 Diaz 2 0 Nunez 3 0 Diekman 14 5(36%) Houser 0 0 Reid-Foley 7 2(29%) Lopez 4 3(75%) Young 5 0 Walker 11 5(45%)

@Trottah Ай бұрын

I think the issue many Mets fans have with Pete is the old “we lost with you, we can lose without you” line. Looking back at his career, 2019 was pretty good as a team but we missed the playoffs. 2020-21 were bad losing seasons under Rojas, 2022 was a great season, but had the biggest Mets collapse since 2007, and then last year was terrible. This year has a couple of great winning streaks and a terrible month of May. So the idea of running the same lineup out (Lindor, Nimmo, Alonso and friends) for 7 more years and hoping for different results is a bit underwhelming. Now we could have a better support in cast for those three, or better pitching, but a lot of people are hoping the future has different stars that are currently in the minors.

@meazybx5043 Ай бұрын

28 million dollars a year over 7 years? Hell no!

@GeraldM_inNC Ай бұрын

He wants more than that.

@aharonbrand8044 Ай бұрын

I would rather see JD Martinez because he's extremely clutch telling you the truth he One two championships he's a winner 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

@GeraldM_inNC Ай бұрын

Not unless he can play left field. Vientos needs to get 600 at bats at DH.

@fr2ncm9 Ай бұрын

Sign Pete to big deal and next year, when he's hitting 219 everyone will have buyer's remorse.

@johnspadaro5442 Ай бұрын

I like Pete and what he brings, but he's pretty limited as a player and has a skillset that is probably going to age really poorly. If he hits 40 homers, that's awesome, but last season he was below average in pretty much every other aspect of the game. If we are being honest with ourselves, he's not half the player Freddie Freeman or Matt Olson are. I don't think they should overpay just because he's home grown, and having the extra money we were going to pay him could open up all kinds of interesting paths for us.

@johncummings5350 Ай бұрын

Why is Olson or Freeman twice the player Pete is??? Olson strikes out more than almost everyone in the entire league and Freeman is older than Pete. I can't agree that Pete is second fiddle to either of them at this point in his career.

@LovelyBreakingWaves-gu2cv Ай бұрын

I would let him walk . He’s a career 200 hitter . We can do a lot better . Vientos hits 300 and could be the 1st baseman .

@ericB3444 Ай бұрын

Move Pete Loss Moss. Bring in Willie Mays Hayes from Major League.

@hermanclements2857 Ай бұрын

If they decide to sign Alonso give him a higher AAV than any first baseman in MLB for 5 years if he doesn’t accept that then adios

@mikelee7318 Ай бұрын

Home plate umpire was an abomination! My lord be was awful.

@StarCooki3 Ай бұрын

They will be storming Citi Field with pitchforks if they trade Alonso

@emiliothepoet Ай бұрын

lol

@fr2ncm9 Ай бұрын

In May, everyone wanted to trade him yesterday. Don't let a hot streak fool you, Alonso is not a clutch hitter.

@LockedOnMets Ай бұрын

That’s why it might be a tough decision for Stearns. He knows how much Pete means to the fan base. He’d certainly need to be blown away by a deal to get rid of him.

@richardrivera5252 Ай бұрын

I agree with you Ryan. Pete is a homegrown Met and needs to stay period.

@jamesbuckley8917 Ай бұрын

Pete fills seats. MLB is a business.

@frontier6937 Ай бұрын

Scott Boras is salivating over Alonso's contract renewal. It will be massive. He's 30 yrs old and here we go again - watch Cohen sign him to a 10 year deal that'll take him to the age of 40, instead of pouring all of that money into building the best farm system in baseball. Cohen has ruined this franchise.

@mikelee7318 Ай бұрын

WTF? The guy just spent about 90 million trading Verlander and Scherzer so we could get premium prospects back. Cohen has prioritized the farm system! Yes he did “go for it” which led to a 101 win season. It didn’t end like we wanted to but it was the right move when you have a generational talent like DeGrom.

@frontier6937 Ай бұрын

@@mikelee7318 show me a guy who signs a massive new contract, and I'll show you a guy who tanks. Go down the list (DeGrom, Sherzer, Verlander, Marte, Senga, Nimmo, Lindor, Diaz, Rondon, Cole, Stanton) - all the pitchers are hurt or sub par, and all the hitters are massively under performing. The most valuable players on the Mets and Yankees are the guys making the league minimum or close to it (Volpe, Schmidt, Wells, Cabrera, Gil, Marinaccio, Alvarez, Vientos, Torrens ... The more ya make, the more ya suck. The only guy smiling is the player and his agent.

@alandesgrange9703 Ай бұрын

Middle relief is the weak point on this team. Need a lights out 8th inning guy.

@jamesbuckley8917 Ай бұрын

That is true from when they lost Raley. Nunez is that guy. He was sick yesterday and unavailable(sinus infection).

@GeraldM_inNC Ай бұрын

Or a closer and move everyone down an inning.

@Batts14 Ай бұрын

Dude stop crunching numbers!!Your not a GM!!Stearns went to Harvard where did you go!

@GeraldM_inNC Ай бұрын

It sounds like he wants more than Freeman, and he's not as good.

@joselopezmoya9786 Ай бұрын

The METS and PETE ALONSO might need each other but MINI MARKET STEARNS doesn't give a rat's ass about it because ALONSO'S future contract will derail his MINI MARKET/ MONEY BALL PHILOSOPHY. So STEARNS will do everyrhing in his power to trade PETE.

@lordt78 Ай бұрын

Stop yo nonsense!

@_DD2024 Ай бұрын

ive said all along Pete and Jeff need to go. They do not need each other, Your wrong and niether of them truly want to be in NY. Of course they'll all say the right things, but these guys are like Jake. Simple Southern and Western guys who culturally dont fit here. The only reason they even are able to make it here is because this team was filled with those kinds of guys when they all came in. so although in NY, the team itself was more of their Vibe. They dont like it here. Pete will NOT be a Met 2025.

@jamesbuckley8917 Ай бұрын

You're wrong,

@claydouglas2526 Ай бұрын

Wright (VA), Strawberry (CA), Seaver (CA), Gooden (FL) would disagree. It’s actually much harder to find all-time Mets who ARE from the northeast.