Miles beats Pete by revealing his ultimate weapon, the Miles Morales Original™. Peter cringes so hard he implodes. Low diff.

I do agree with the fact that miles beats Peter at base but with the symbiotes it’s no longer even a conversation

Note the only reason miles won against rhino is for his plot to be the next spiderman

I feel like its pretty unfair to say that he tanked a explosion that could have blown up Harlem because the explosion was converted into his Venom and his body is made to handle that kind of venom

There was one more thing that i want to point out in the rhino fight. Before the fight started,rhino ran both Peter and Miles into a massive gas tank which caused a huge explosion. Miles was flung into a wall by the explosion but Peter went through the entire explosion with rhino and still remained conscious for a few minutes afterwards. And Miles beating rhino in that fight doesn't necessarily make him physically stronger,it was because of the venom blasts that were affecting rhino.

I agree with this take. Miles base v Peter base, Miles win but against a symbiote my boi getting his ass whooped😂

Normal Peter wins high-extreme diff

8:57, my condolences to him and his children. His medical bills will be bigger than a CVS receipt.

Look..miles may have more abilities like the camo and electricity but Peter has more experience doing Spiderman and plus I'm pretty sure Peter can still sense miles even though he's invisible and even in Spider man two when Peter had venom he can still see him making the Symbiote having thermal vision

Random theory on Rhino: Miles only had to fight Rhino twice, while Peter probably fought Rhino a lot more pre first game, considering how many references there are to old movies and stuff. Miles in the first game even mentions when Peter fought Rhino on the Brooklyn bridge, which we never saw in the games. My theory is that maybe Rhino was able to learn Peter's fighting style and counter it so he could win any other fights, whilst Miles has a new fighting style and so far has only fought Rhino twice. Another thing is Miles' venom which could counter Rhino normally and his Roxxon Armour. That's my theory on why Miles won so easily against Rhino.

One thing to consider is that in the comics Anti-Venom has the ability to drain Spider-Man of his powers since they are radiation based and Miles was also bitten by a radioactive spider, so if Peter really wanted to he could depower Miles even permanently.

Alright we get it. It takes an Alien super suit for Peter to beat Miles

I thought it might be a tie between them at first but Miles Spider Powers do give him an advantage his Venom strikes do some serious damage when it came to strength I thought Peter is stronger just because of their body types always felt like the more mass or maybe height depends how strong you are. Peter is more experienced but Miles had gotten better in his solo game he learned quickly so much Peter left him to handle the city himself for a few weeks let the young Spider be his own man like in the ending of the second game Miles said he gots all of it while Peter bees himself for awhile. Plus Miles did get a Venom upgrade as well lets not forget that. But I remember reading a comic of how deadly Peter can be if he didn't hold back he beat the absolute fuck out of Kingpin in that issue and I mean beat the fuck out of him actually showing blood Peter was ready to cross the line. Apart of me really wants to say that if both Spider-Men went all out no holding back it may be a draw both are real smart and can find away to defeat the other

I definitely agree, but only because they have done Peter so dirty after his first game in the Insomniac verse. (I'm only going to argue base Peter vs Miles here) Before he was taking on two Sinister Six villains at a time with multiple broken bones. Also I heavily disagree that Miles beating Rhino 1 on 1 is more impressive than beating Rhino and Scorpion at once, as even though he did play it smart and use them against each other that is one of his main advantages, Peter is a genius. He fights Scorpion and Rhino at once, with, to reiterate, multiple broken bones. He has to be smart in a fight like that. I think we have seen Miles prove his durability more but I also think it is incredibly inconsistent, and that Miles' resistance to energy of any kind would specifically be way superior to Peter's but his durability overall maybe not as much so. As you said Peter is also more experienced and has better technology to back him up, technology Miles probably couldn't recreate on his own yet. In terms of their actual strength Miles hasn't had any crazy strength feats Peter can't match aside from handling the Symbiote Peter with what seems like little difficulty, and as you touch on in the video it is really hard to take that fight into account with the context. Overall I think Miles as they have represented him would beat base Peter, but I also think that if you erased Peter's existence from the Miles Morales game and the Spider-Man 2 game I think he would win. Totally unfair to remove him from those two for the continuity of a fight but I seriously do think he was severely nerfed after his first game, with his spider sense, reflexes, strength, and speed. I don't think they needed to make Peter weaker in order to give Miles his own spotlight.

In my view Peter has better speed and reaction speed than Miles. We can see that twice in the game cutscene. When it comes to strength Peter is superior but Miles has better AP and hax than Peter. Durability and endurance also goes to Peter. The edge that Miles has over Peter is his creativity with his bio-electricity. We can in the game that when it comes to their powers Miles is way more creative in using them. IMO if they are to fight each other seriously, Peter would win most of the time.

Miles Base vs Peter Base Miles wins, Miles Full Potential vs Symbiot Peter, Symbiot Peter wins, Miles Full Potential vs Anti-Venom Peter, Anti-Venom Peter wins

The reason why Miles won against Peter with symbiote is because Peter himself was fighting against symbiot to get out.

wanted to point out. That the only reason Miles beat Rhino on his first encounter was because of Peter. Peter taught Miles how to fight. Peter use the experience he learn and use it to train Miles. Peter lose during his first encounter because nobody was there to teach him. He had to learn it all by himself. If it weren't from Peter, Rhino would have beat the shit outta Miles. Also pretty sure Peter have better Durability, from getting jump and 3 days without proper rest with broken ribs just fighting. The only reason Miles survive that Nuform was because of his Venom power. If Miles didnt have Venom power, he would have died trying to stop Nuform. Miles got knock just with one rib broken from Phin and also him getting beaten on by Phin again meanwhile Peter took 5 Villain to keep him down. Also Peter win speed. When his spdiey sense goes off everything is in slow motion for him. So does Miles, and even if Miles try to use Venom on Peter, Pete gonna does it just like he does with Electro. Like Miles say "I got nothing on the OG". Base Peter beat Miles

Honestly I 100% agree with this to point where I can see it as being cannon lol

what was the song playing throughout the video? It sounds familiar.

"I'm the hero I don't get saved" he's outta line, but he's right

Nice video!

Great video

Anti Venom Peter also wins round 3 cuz it literally "heals" EVERYTHING. Including cancer. So him wearing that symbiote and even touching Miles with it is gonna strip them both of their spider abilities. alot of people don't know this unfortunately

Here’s the thing it is a fact that miles has more abilities but the abilities they both have (base) Peter is stronger with also if miles could beat him he would be the only Peter in the ENTIRE MULTIVERSE to not beat but to be fair he is the only Peter in the entire multiverse to die to a stab

Kraven didn’t use miles as bait instead of using him to die because he’s weak but because he won’t kill kraven in the fight we can see miles didn’t kill Martin li even tho he killed his father so why would he kill kraven? So he chose peter because the symbiote was corrupting him and he would kill kraven if he manages to make him angry enough

Base Peter is more stronger, durable and smarter coupled with his higher intelligence. He also got a stronger spidey sense, regeneration, and experience. I think he'll win the fight with mid difficulty. I do agree that Miles got more abilities (making him more powerful, but not stronger), but I also believe Peter would be able to counter them with his own gadgets. Or he could dodge them. Heck he can even make a suit for it. Point is, if Peter is really trying to finish off Miles, I think he can. He's always holding himself back (not that Miles doesn't), but that's the only reason Miles lasted as long as he did against Peter in that fight. That was also a vulnerable Peter that Miles was fighting against.

Loved this!!! Thank you!!

Imagine miles with the symbiote suit. He would damn near solo spider man 2

Solid analysis

Honestly I think Peter could take all 3 rounds, base vs base I would c Pete winning mid-high, he is way to smart, has way better tech, and MUCH more exp. And while exp wouldn’t necessarily matter since Miles has all these extra abilities, still it’s smth to consider. Miles camo wouldn’t work cuz his Spider-Sense (his sense was nerfed in SM2, if it works how it did in SM1 it’s no contest) and with all his tech Pete would have an advantage, especially with prep time. Random encounter Pete wins mid-high, prep time Pete wins low diff, Symbiote would win low-mid and Anti-Venom would win low. I respect ur opinion tho and this is just mine nice vid

Ok, but why did you put ornstein and smough theme?

Very good video, for some reason very satisfying to watch too. Hoping you make more But saying miles’s electricity is a weakness to the symbiotes is wrong and has been proven so, even it is able to damage symbiotes it doesnt necessarily mean it is a weakness to them, just something that damages them.

I agree with everything in this video, Good job and hope you continue the work However can I bring up this To be honest the major factor of showing miles is better then peter is his extra powers And yet miles seems almost weaker then base Peter without them Let me explain Miles has fought 2 Spider-Man villains that can either be immune to his bio electricity of cancel them out Rhino with his roxxon armor was shown incapable of showcase anything strength that wouldn’t have rhino flying around if anything is shows rhino is actually stronger then miles And the only reason miles was shown as stronger before is due to his venom blasts And technically Miles didn’t beat rhino in a physical sense as he was in the heart of a roxxon base where he needed the materials in that base to use against rhino Where if this was a battle in the streets miles would have no means of breaking the armor, Not to mention he was having help from phin at the time It’s just a fact people take miles being the roxxon rhino in the same sense of them thing miles beat symbote peter When he only won due to the circumstances of being able to use a weakness against both As if miles was fighting roxxon rhino in the streets without the roxxon equipment to use against rhino Then miles would be unable to break the armor Thus unable to use his venom blasts And would be in Peter’s position having to fight rhino with just his physical strength And we saw what happened when rhino first encountered miles as he was easily knocked out by rhino into a longer stay of unconsciousness Then peter being pumped by rhino relentlessly and getting up not that long after being knocked out As I fail to see miles is stronger then base better because this Rather you should say miles is more powerful yet doesn’t seem to actually showcase he is stronger then peter without them To prove this further Let’s go onto Mr negative It should be known Li was, penitent for what he did in the ps4 game and less powerful as a result As it’s said Li’s power comes from his rage Where in the ps4 games was at an all time high and in the second game is lesser Meaning a weaker Mr negative fighting a stronger miles Not to mention miles was more going all out then say peter was in the ps4 game and Mr negative had the ability to cancel out mile’s powers Mr negative is said to be reluctant to kill while miles was implied he might even be trying to kill Li And miles technically didn’t truly beat Li as Li forfeit the fight the moment miles told him about his dad, where as miles was struggling more with Li in a physical fight and the mental battle when compared to ps4 Peter It’s just a factor even miles as fatigue and barely able to stand by the end of the fight And let’s keep this in mind Miles isn’t on rhinos strength level or able to rage doll rhino if miles can use his venom powers As he needs them to even beat rhino in such a way, and miles wouldn’t be able to beat roxxon rhino if it was on the streets since it required roxxon equipment similar to rhino’s armor to damage it in the first place Meaning miles wouldn’t be able overpower rhino Miles would in the same position as peter would be Not that strong when compared to rhino In which Peter can actually contend with rhino somewhat in a physical strength back and forth But miles seems helpless unless he can use his venom powers without them he admits he probably wouldn’t even be able to beat rhino And Mr negative Peter in a injured and fatigued state beat the most powerful version of Mr negative while holding back and Li going all out to kill Peter and Peter was still standing by the end With miles Li was resentful this not as powerful as he was before, and doesn’t truly want to kill miles where as miles who is now stronger then he has ever been is implied to be going all out and maybe even willing to kill Li With the fight showing Li being able to disable miles powers and contend with him Yet Li was going miles a hard time in both the physical sense and a mental sense with Li giving up after miles told him about his dad, where as it seems Li was actually winning the fight and could have kept going but lost all will to fight after realizing he is just like Norman And mikes by the end was barely able to stand In summary It’s just a matter if miles doesn’t or can’t use his bio electricity He hasn’t showcase he is in fact stronger then peter in a physical sense If he was he be able to ragedoll rhino even without his bio electrity And would be able to beat a weaker Li without having to rely on them to fight back It’s just a case where I believe If this came down to the powers and stats that both miles and peter share Peter would be better then miles in most of those categories To simply it Based on what I just presented Base peter > Miles without bio electricity Meaning if Peter as the means to disable or counter mikes powers, mikes would probably lose Since in the case of roxxon rhino miles would lose(without using any roxxon material to damage his suit) or if miles couldn’t use his bio electricity at all against a normal rhino And the fact Peter at his weakest beat Mr negative at his strongest and didn’t seem to be struggling to stand by the end Where as miles more powerful then ever going all out on a weaker reluctant Mr negative who can disable miles powers with li giving up and yet being barley able to stand by the end I think there is a case to be made that if Peter can disable or develop something to properly counter miles electric powers Base Peter would actually be better then miles and win So for scaling Base peter > miles if miles can’t use his bio electric powers(as in Peter can use something to counter them or disable them if not make his suit immune to them) Base peter < miles if miles does and case use his venom powers and Peter has no means of counting them Symboye peter > miles for the reasons you said Anti venom >> miles same reasons you said

Miles without his venom strike is technically physically weaker, the only reason why it worked on Peter is because, it’s electricity, electricity hurts, Peter easily beats miles in a fair fight without the symbiote due to experience, also same thing with rhino, miles technically used his venom , which again electricity hurts, I’d be surprised if miles didn’t win, plus Peter took more than 8 hits, miles took one hard one, Peter technically had to fight him longer.

I just gotta say love the videos you make there so entertaining with interesting points I mindly missed😬 but your videos are a huge part of why I'm in a good mood everyday! Keep doing what your doing👍👍👍

Good video, but important to keep in mind that games sometimes have inconsistencies lol. I think this game is no exception, but I agree with almost everything.

note for when miles hit the energy thingy in miles spider man at the end of the game couldnt he of absorbed a bit of the power due to his abilities im not good with these things so

Base Peter defeats Base miles

Insomniac is the only universe where Miles is stronger. Anywhere else Peter could slaughter Miles in seconds.

morales is spelt on wrong in the chapter titles (not moralis)

Brainiac wants to capture them alive for study (as said by Batman) and has tampered with the JL's genetic code.

Considering how smart tech wise Peter is he 100% would make Lenses in his mask that see MIiles when he is invisible, if villains can do it Peter could easily, He would also just wear his electro proof suit and it would negate his powers, now we are left with a contest of strength that of which Peter is way stronger physically half due to age and the other half due to being selected by the Spider-Totem thus granting him very great physical strength, when you take context into the equation Peter stomps 100% of the time. Thing that pisses me off is People called this shit would happen the min miles was created. That writers and miles fans would constantly try to force Miles to be better then Peter instead of just standing on his own besides Peter. this is why I despise when Marvel makes a copy paste of someone powers and gives it to someone else, it takes away from the original and dosent make them original anymore. and this is coming from someone who doesn't really like the spider-verse I miss when the Spider-Verse was JUST peter parker. 2099 made sense because it was the future after the original Peter died so he was taking the mantle years later. Mile Glazers will never not weird me out, Peter literally got visited by GOD personally because he was going to quit, God himself said Peter was too important, that fact alone will make Peter the only true Spider-Man and that fact will never change no matter how much marvel pushes it. The First game he took down the sinister six BY HIMSELF in one night, with broken bones, AND did side quests, AND fought raft inmates. Dude was a beast then they treat him like he is weak in the second game, its bullshit, he struggles against sandman WHO HE HAS BEAT BEFORE. its obvious when you take it into context that Insomniac said Miles is the new main spider-man that they nerfed peter and sidelined him in the second game when it came to power and usefulness. The second game was a joke. and an embarrassment to actual Spider-Man fans. Neither Peter NOR miles got the respect they deserved in that game.

Why are you acting like Miles can catch Rhino’s punch with one hand? And why didn’t you mention any other strength feats, like the Ferris wheel which he held even with one hand temporarily?

I believe Peter Parker would win pretty much every time. 1 peter Parker has fought electro who has electric powers, same as Miles Morales. So he has experience fighting somebody with electric based powers and in the first game, he says he upgraded his suit to help protect him more from electric attacks. 2 Peter Parker has more experience in combat than Miles Morales. 3 peter Parker is more intelligent than Miles Morales.

Great video but I just wanted to say that in an interview with Bryan Intihar, the director of the game he stated that the symbiote only has one weakness being sound and not miles bio electricity so this makes a black suit Peter way more powerful than miles even if he goes all out

First of all these games would be a terrible example for such a fight based purely on how they fight in it. Assuming both would fight eachother as enemies and assuming it is personal for some reason i bet my money on the older more experienced Spider-Man. More powers does not always mean more powerfull and potentially leaves you also with more weaknesses and he is the type of guy who exploits them. Invisibility would also not help Miles much as both have a Spidey Sense. In the spirit of the game it would be Powers against Tech. And since he is older and at the height of his prime Miles has a disadvantage as Parker fought enemies like Shocker or Elektro. But at the end of the day i see these two just being to friendly to fight one another.

Give peter 20 mins prep time and hed make an anti-miles suit 💀 PS this is a joke

I agree with most of the points, miles would best Peter in base form because he’s basically a less experienced Peter with the ability to create, absorb, and shoot out electricity and can tank lethal amounts of electricity with barely any pain. Miles would obviously lose to the symbiotes because they give extra strength, ranged ability, extra endurance, insane healing, and numerous restraints. I don’t think the severity of the symbiote suits beating miles would be that bad but that’s just my opinion. The main things I disagree with are peters spider arms being able to shield him from the bio electricity cause they’re thin and they channel it so it would go into the arms and shock Peter, and I disagree with the anti venom suit being partially protected from miles electric powers just because it was made with them.

In terms of pure strength, Miles usually always beats Peter. (I say usually purely because of the view times we've seen Pete drop the jokes and DOMINATE whoever is facing him in the comics.) But I feel that in terms of durability, Peter has it. When it comes to strategy, Peter takes this entirely. Peter is just him in this spot. Stamina wise, Peter and Miles are around even, but I feel Peter still takes this because of how much energy bioelectricity takes out of Miles. In terms of symbiote, Peter dominates in every category, increased healing, strength, speed, and partially smarts. However, in the game, Pete still pushes back against the symbiote and refuses to kill+the bell. Now anti-venom. Anti-Venom is strange in the sense that HE WOULD SLAM THE SHIT OUT OF MILES IN EVERY CATEGORY. That's my take, very similar to the video. Miles outstrengths Pete in base but it'd still be rather close anyway because Pete's pure strategy, add in symbiote to Pete, he just thrashes.

Peter solos without the symbiote suit Peter is smarter he could make a suit that just tanks miles venom powers In a comic that is canon we saw him make a flash suit (MARVEL'S SPIDER-MAN: VELOCITY) This peter is like a low budget iron man making suits for everything

Peter is definitely stronger being slightly more intelligent, strong, and fast. Miles may have some advantage in some places because of the bio electricity, but Insomniac Peter is faster than lightning.

Actually, now that I have done very DEEP research on spider-man 2 game (like very deep research, looking for every statement & detail & etc). I actually change my mind on some things (1 might be a crazy claim in which I can explain why to you if you like). That being: Peter Parker (anti-venom) miles morales (close to end-game via fighting venom) > miles morales (When fighting symbiote Peter Parker) > Peter Parker (symbiote) > Peter Parker (base). These are all in terms of strength ^. Anti-venom Peter Parker being stronger than miles morales is actually just an assumption with nothing backing it up once so ever (in fact, you be SURPRISED that there’s actually but BARELY more arguments of miles morales > (anti-venom) Peter Parker during the fight with venom. I now disagree that Peter Parker (symbiote) is significantly stronger than miles morales (via after watching the fight & analysis what they have done) & which now if anything. I believe MILES was the one who’s stronger during this fight (not including his venom & electric power) In which I can explain ALL of this if you like

you think there will be a peter vs miles again but we play as peter

I'm not opposed to Miles being more powerful and taking over in principle... ...but the Insomniac Miles is kinda lame and annoying. "Time for a Miles original" was it? Maybe your fashion choices shouldn't be a concern in the midst of a city-wide alien take-over 🤔 "gotta be me 😏" 🤢🤮

Base spiderman but he is angry and depressed would beat miles

What Do You Guys Think??

8:56 💀💀💀 his poor kids

Yeah what was that Insomniac fans were saying about their Spider-Man being more powerful than 616 Spidey? When he's this rubbish in the game?

I agree with this. I noticed that miles evolved along with peter. In Spider-Man 1 Peters max health was 200. In Miles Morales miles' max was 175. In Spider-Man 2, both can reach 200. I really like this video, keep it up. (also the evolved suit is still dog water)

Great informative video!

I really don’t understand how people are still using Peters performance against rhino as an anti feat he was toying with rhino till something very pivotal happens he tanks 3 GIANT explosive tankers one of which was capable of sending Miles absolutely flying, should Peter have let go? Maybe but then he risked rhino getting away in the destruction, so no this is a very bad feat to cite in a Miles vs Peter battle

And people say Peter was nerfed to make Miles look better. You, my friend, entirely disproved them.

I think Peter could win ia slight chance to me it's 50/50 if miles can get a really lucky shot with him venom then miles could easily combo him or something. But we gotta take more that probably isn't even the fastest thing he's ever dodged.. If we're talking abt close up miles takes the cake (with no symbiote)

I think Miles would still have a decent chance in round 2 as he still has his sonic gadget capable of destroying symbiotes and symbiote nestes, if he uses that to his advantage effectively i think he nay stand a chance, i think the same could go for Anti Venom Peter

We can run this

Ehh strength wise they are relative what boosts miles strength is his energy protection without it they are pretty much equal imo when it comes to base strength

I mostly agree with everything in the video but except for the difficulty gaps for the two other rounds . I think it should be a high diff with the Symbiote suit and Mid diff with anti-venom . Also Miles is still faster than Peter even with the 2 symbiotes as the Hunters stated that Miles was quicker than Peter rest i agree

peter would win in all 3 rounds

When it comes to superhero powers the writing is horribly inconsistent, in one scene we see Peter STRAIN to lift a car and in another he lifts, hold double digit tons of shit. Writers also rely too much on plot convenience, it was not such a big problem in the first game, but in the second one It's a real problem, things happen that just don't make no sense, because the plot needs them to happen. I can't say the story was awful, but rather it was poorly written and delivered IMHO. Also the characters feel so fake and bland? Everyone has this west coast, poster boy liberal with a useless art degree vibe ... It's hard to put into words, but they just don't feel like real people most of the time and they don't talk like real people.

Anti venom is def low dif the only thing I disagree with u on is the fact u think anti venom can’t purge miles anti venom can cure cancer and impurity’s aka radiation from a spider

I hate how people want to down play miles just bc they don’t like him.

So practical current spider man beats the shit out of miles

nah man peter destroy miles whenever he wants

bro peter solos miles easily he took all sinister six out for 8 years

Maybe for insomniac games lol. In the comics Peter wins easy

If you think that miles' bio electricity gives him any advantage, we are talking about the guy who has beaten electro like probably 2+ times and won. And electros electricity is EVEN better than miles'

Miles should has camo he can just camo find sonic blasts and boom Pete’s done

THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING THAT MILES > (BASE) PETER PARKER. I don’t necessarily agree with the symbiote Peter Parker above miles morales if both are all out UNLESS Peter Parker when going all out turns into venom himself then yea I agree he gets mid to low diff but then again, we don’t know how strong miles morales is once his using full power & strength so there’s that. Also I believe miles morales (end game) definitely beats Peter Parker (symbiote) in a fight as he gotten stronger if not MUCH stronger, so much so in fact he was a literal relative to (anti-venom) Peter Parker.

Just because Peter is your favorite don't mean he's stronger, also they both did hold back but Peter clearly was going out more

miles better

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Peter is a crap character that needs to be killed off in every medium, so freaking boring, Spiderman only got good when Miles was introduced

I agree with most of the points, miles would best Peter in base form because he’s basically a less experienced Peter with the ability to create, absorb, and shoot out electricity and can tank lethal amounts of electricity with barely any pain. Miles would obviously lose to the symbiotes because they give extra strength, ranged ability, extra endurance, insane healing, and numerous restraints. I don’t think the severity of the symbiote suits beating miles would be that bad but that’s just my opinion. The main things I disagree with are peters spider arms being able to shield him from the bio electricity cause they’re thin and they channel it so it would go into the arms and shock Peter, and I disagree with the anti venom suit being partially protected from miles electric powers just because it was made with them.