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@Yash-nk3to
@Yash-nk3to 6 ай бұрын
Sir I myself am a PhD CSE student at one of the old IITs and the work culture is not at all good here. I think the direct PhD selection process should be rigourous and looks like it isn't. I joined in Jan 2020 right before COVID which was in March 2020 for 2 years we were at home during COVID and currently in my fourth year now and I have no papers. I think there is a lot of insensitivity among a few Professors who ask for unrealistic goals like publishing 5-6 papers(when they just published 2 papers in 7 years of their PhD) to graduate from here. There is no placement support for PhD as well, I don't think there is any point of going with this process coz there is no support when it comes to finances and support as a Phd student for your thesis from Professor's side coz of their incapability. IMPORTANT NOTE FOR FUTURE ASPIRANTS: I would request every student please do Mtech before PhD or else do direct PhD only if you have a bit of research experience coz it's uncertain and one with financial issues needs certainty when it comes to work. Also, if your financial condition isn't good better not to join PhD coz it's risky and as a senior I can tell you this coz of what I am going through. There was nobody to guide me when I was applying and abt to join this as I'm the first one in my family to enter IIT but my dear sisters and brothers please take wise decision. My financial condition isn't good at all and reality of getting an Mtech if you are unable to do direct PhD here is myth. College won't allow you to leave easily especially your advisors, I heard one story(just one in four years) where student literally fought for MTech and this is the condition. You'll suffer very badly and eventually you'll be on your own once your stipend ends. So please think before leaving what you are doing right now before joining PhD/direct PhD especially in India.
@vijayenderthakur8678
@vijayenderthakur8678 6 ай бұрын
its heartening to see that prof in India dot show much care n sensitivity for their phd students whereas in global university they treat them as their family members .....n also this is my first hand observation .....need to change this all friends ......lets support n promote this cause
@Yash-nk3to
@Yash-nk3to 6 ай бұрын
@@vijayenderthakur8678 thanks for your support Vijayendra this would be beneficiary for all of our fellow mates and upcoming aspirants.
@Yash-nk3to
@Yash-nk3to 6 ай бұрын
​@@vijayenderthakur8678 Sorry Vijay Sir i didn't realise it's you. Better to comment using channel itself sir else it's difficult to recognise you 🙂. Pls also talk abt selection process of PhD candidates better to take experienced students instead of freshers as a few Professors lack the skills of training freshers to do research. Also, pls talk abt smooth exit from direct PhD instead of wasting some students' precious young years where the student could have earned good money in a job instead and could've supported his/ her family instead of joining the programme. So pls talk abt smooth exit as it's very difficult and students leave without any degree and all of those precious years are just wasted. AT LAST, **RESEARCH CAN'T BE DONE UNDER PRESSURE AND THAT'S WHAT MANY PROFESSORS ARE DOING NOWADAYS**
@Prodbybah
@Prodbybah 2 ай бұрын
Bhaiya pls help mera jee nahin huwa aur mera cse krney ka man tha and higher studies in mtech trying in nits iits is it worth it and me ek average student hun or should I go for bsc and iitjam ?? If I want to be professor in should I go for mtech PhD in iit nits ornahi se bsc hi krun pls guide me 😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@Prodbybah
@Prodbybah 2 ай бұрын
Bhaiya apka kuch milega kya telegram or mobile WhatsApp pls bhaiya wanted to ask for some guidance I live in very outskirts of arunachal pradesh and have no guidance just did my 12 what to do jee did not went well.
@SOUMENMAJEE123
@SOUMENMAJEE123 6 ай бұрын
Simple truth .. In India companies prefer btech rather than mtech phd ..
@yogivivekanand2283
@yogivivekanand2283 6 ай бұрын
Jo man me aata h wo mt bolo mtech students are hired by company in form of post graduate engineer trainee
@SOUMENMAJEE123
@SOUMENMAJEE123 6 ай бұрын
@@yogivivekanand2283 yehi reality he ..mtech ka placements btech se kaam hi hota he in Iit and that too placements happens majority in cse Mtech . Higher degrees are fruitful abroad.. Ye to baas coaching industry gate to barawa derehe he business
@supratikghanti2675
@supratikghanti2675 6 ай бұрын
​@@yogivivekanand2283indian companies kaha hai post graduate hiring mei? It's mainly foreign companies or Indian companies who work on client projects like TCS, Infosys or Quest Global. Very few Indian companies have requirements for PGETs as they don't have products of their own. I know for example Titagarh Wagons, the company that supplies trainsets for Nagpur metro, bought an Italian company and started using their technology to manufacture trainsets. The research and innovation still happens in Italy and complex parts are brought from Italy. Only simple assembly and manufacturing of simple parts happen in India. Why would there be requirement of PhDs and MTechs in India?
@iitiangky1673
@iitiangky1673 6 ай бұрын
​@@SOUMENMAJEE123 MTech Ka Core sector mein BTech se jyada aachaa placement hota hai. Airbus, Merecdes aur Caterpillar Mtech ko hi leti hai, BTech ko eligible nahi krti. BTech ko Non core mein fayda hota hai.
@vijayenderthakur8678
@vijayenderthakur8678 6 ай бұрын
Need to provide opportunities to phd scholars placements etc
@breathensmile
@breathensmile 6 ай бұрын
well said sir! PhDs feel inferior to mtech or btech students when it comes to employment...great concern!
@vijayenderthakur8678
@vijayenderthakur8678 6 ай бұрын
lets then change it n make phd a degree people start respecting the way its done in global universities
@breathensmile
@breathensmile 6 ай бұрын
@@vijayenderthakur8678 I wish it were only in our hands to change the political perception. I believe it's needed that we tag the concerned authorities and let our pleas ring their ears in great numbers.
@mystic5355
@mystic5355 6 ай бұрын
Sir, you are absolutely correct. Many students prefer to do Ph.D. from abroad than India, and there are many viewpoints on it. Most of the faculties at the Higher Institutions in India are incompetent. Also, one can save money if he/she is doing PhD abroad. There are not enough resources which are required for cutting-edge research. Getting a PDF(post-doctoral fellowship) is much easier if you have done PhD abroad and so on...
@manishatole9214
@manishatole9214 6 ай бұрын
🙏You are donig a GREAT job sir ! Thanks !!
@vijayenderthakur8678
@vijayenderthakur8678 6 ай бұрын
thanks we must change perception of educational policy makers for phd n research in india
@tror2285
@tror2285 6 ай бұрын
I support the good cause raised by vijendra sir. the academic fraternity needs to realise that they are failing in creating an environment which promotes research and development and in turn, is hindering the country's growth. I do not understand the logic in giving more weightage to mtech than phd in assessing a candidate for a prospective job role. i mean this is a very serious issue that the system is discouraging the students to pursue phd. no country who claims to be an upcoming global leader can reach where it wants to reach by doing what is being done here. i guess we dont want to dissociate our country from the tag of snake charmer. service sector is only one engine of our economy. for the indian economy rocket to take off, we need all of its engines fired simultaneously. more research creates more sectoral expertise and in turn create industries relying on those low cost home grown expertise. in short the quality of research directly relates to the standard of living of the country. because everything boils down whether it is affordable or not. media should take note of it and try to make sense out it and ask questions to relevant authorities.
@surajgururani9935
@surajgururani9935 6 ай бұрын
The first reason is the stipend which students are getting during PHD The same issue you raised earlier. Another reason is the job opportunity especially in the private sector (R&D).
@abhishekjoshi127
@abhishekjoshi127 6 ай бұрын
thanks sir for making this vedio before see your vedio i plain for direct phd for make career in teaching field but now i not go for direct phd and try for by mtech thanks for save my time and energy
@vijayenderthakur8678
@vijayenderthakur8678 6 ай бұрын
yes u must be aware about the facts before making any decision
@DhananjayKumar-rw8vv
@DhananjayKumar-rw8vv 6 ай бұрын
It's a great concern especially for Direct PhD candidate
@DhananjayKumar-rw8vv
@DhananjayKumar-rw8vv 6 ай бұрын
Even, most NITs are not considering the Direct PhD candidate for interview. They are giving an advantage to M.tech + PhD over Direct PhD candidates.
@vijayenderthakur8678
@vijayenderthakur8678 6 ай бұрын
yes thats true
@dr.panditsolution8217
@dr.panditsolution8217 6 ай бұрын
Salute 🙏 you sir to raising concern on direct phd holder students. I am also a victim of the same situation and struggling to get in a job after doing phd from IIT Guwahati. The waitage criteria ( 25 marks for mtech and 5 marks for phd) of marks almost kill our job opportunities and don't even got lecturer job in polytechnic college despite have PhD from IIT... Now i realise that direct phd from IIT is totally waste.
@Prodbybah
@Prodbybah 2 ай бұрын
Bhaiya pls help me me kya karun mera jee kharab hogya socha hu mtech krunga in nits etc because not a bright very average student what should I do pls guide me bhaiya 😭😭🙏🙏
@Prodbybah
@Prodbybah 2 ай бұрын
Bhaiya apne masters kiya he kya ?? Pls kahiye sir ki me kya karun ??
@dr.panditsolution8217
@dr.panditsolution8217 2 ай бұрын
Do master before doing PhD. Don't go for direct PhD after btech in any IIT or NIT
@pankajraushan3497
@pankajraushan3497 6 ай бұрын
India me to according to aicte recruitment rule 2019 minimum criteria m tech hi hai.. Uske bad state level me written exam lene ka rule hai.. Koi v phd candidate, post doc krne wale easy me written exam nhi crack kr pate hai.. Bihar government engineering college me to 96 percentage m tech wale ka hi selection hua hai.. Now days 2024 chal rha hai.. Ab time aa gya hai.. Recruitment rule review and revised krne ka.. Indian government ke sath sath state government v higher qualification and research paper ka koi jayda point nhi de rha hai.. Ye sb matter pe aap log kv aicte ke chairman se question kriye.. And unka vision puchiye..
@vijayenderthakur8678
@vijayenderthakur8678 6 ай бұрын
we need to make crietria to enter in phd more rigorous n start providing good scholarship min 50K in phd so that good candidates join phd
@pankajraushan3497
@pankajraushan3497 6 ай бұрын
Mujhe lgta hai.. Your pedia team ko bihar government ke science and technology department ke director, sectary se interview lena chahiye.. Kyunki yha v m tech wale ko 10 percentage weight tha.. Aur phd ka 5 point weight tha.. Yha phd and research publication ka koi weight nhi tha.. Iss rule ke according phd and post doctoral wale ko v written exam qualified krna hoga uske bad interview dene ka mauka milega.. Phd and post docc.. Wale only 1_2 percentage hi written qualified kiye honge.. 96 percentage only m tech holder jisne gate, ies and psu ka prepared krta tha.. Uska selection hua hai... Aap se request hai.. Aap kv bihar dst ke director and sachiv se interview kr ke puchiye aisa selection se.. Bihar ka college kaise growth hoga.. Kya vision hai.. Jb m tech holder wale ka government assist professor me permanent job ho jata hai.. To yhi log part time phd nit patna me admission le rhe hai.. Full time koi admission lena nhi chah rha hai.. Issi recruitment rule se.. Upcoming research krne walo ke liye bihar science and technology department ye rule demotivate krne wala hai.. Isspe ho sake to aap bihar engineering university ke vice chancellor se v interview le sakte hai. Ki aapke university me m tech aur phd course ka kya vision hai.. Aapke pass PhD holder kitne faculties hai.. M tech course me padhane wala faculty m tech hai ya phd holder... ???
@aruntejdasari720
@aruntejdasari720 23 күн бұрын
Sir, i myself joined in an Institute with gate score as a Jrf and i need to convert my jrf to sponsored phd program in that Institute. Sir, i don't have any intrest in doing phd. I just joined as a jrf so that can help me financially and sir what do now can i leave this after i get any other job. I have only completed btech ans directly joined in this programme aa few weeks before. Which now i feel aa very wrong decision Sir can you please tell me what do now should i quit now itself or wait until i get a good core job
@saagar2002
@saagar2002 6 ай бұрын
I agree with you sir, we don't have good hpcs to simulate, 1 month wait karna padta hai permission ke liye. Sign karne wala nahi aya woh leave me hai, lab ka jo hai woh phd wale ka pass hai prof didn't allow me to use it 1 month gaya. Time waste 5 years acha naukri chodo pakore bhejoge tho bhi famous ho jaoge jyada paisa kamaloge. Sorry to say this but that's the reality.
@Yash-nk3to
@Yash-nk3to 6 ай бұрын
Bhai tum shi keh rhe ho I agree with you. I left a job for this degree and I feel I'd have learnt a lot if I'd have continued with my job instead of entering this process of PhD in one of the leading IITs. And 5 years nh bhai they take 6,7 and even 8 years to complete and that too in CS department chemistry is pathetic when it comes to this number. There is a guy who is staying here for 12 years now PhD Chemistry. I believe they are increasing the seats just to hide the unemployment number coz as a student you'll not be shown as unemployed person. Thus 2 students are getting accomodated in 1 occupancy room here at IITK. It's pathetic dude, so bad conditions for students.
@saagar2002
@saagar2002 6 ай бұрын
@@Yash-nk3to own experiences, I got good intellectual friends but the beurocracy and system will eat you alive if u are different, no wonder people end their lives there. The stress levels among phds, one of the guys shouted that he doesn't have any choice other thand going for teaching in front of the prof, normal people don't behave like that these frustrated people get into teaching and God save new kids. Solution: 1) pump more money for labs and science. 2) meritocracy over regionalism and reservation based hiring. 3) industry and Institute partnerships. 4) Train the profs you recruit based on their research capabilities, expect them to teach well and take managerial positions in college decisions. They are not trained for this and suck at everything bcoz they digress from teaching. 5) 4-5 years phd, there r some stuck for 7 years and more no ones asking what the hell is happening
@Yash-nk3to
@Yash-nk3to 6 ай бұрын
@@saagar2002 everyone asks about your publications and your progress nobody asks about Professor's skills anymore. What he/she has been doing? What is the background of students he/she are recruiting? Are the students freshers or experienced? Has any fresher student passed out under a professor or not? If yes, has that student published papers as single author or not? All these questions are asking about the capabilities of these so called best Professors our country has got. The problem is as a student everyone asks for your grades and marks but as they become professors nobody asks about their work progress what they have been doing, why they are not able to guide one or two student in the group? Are they freshers or not? I believe if a professor hasn't passed out a single fresher student in his/her career and is surviving on experienced students' work in these premier IITs, that professor is just wasting a responsible position and he/she should be removed from that position immediately. As a researcher it's your job to train a PhD student, if you can't do that then you yourself are not trained properly that means your PhD is questionable. Nobody raises such questions, and these professors have 2 papers that too not a good level work in 7 years duration asking for 5 publications from their PhD students. How hypocrite and how greedy they are. They are the reasons for so many suicides and bad work culture and everything is suppressed as if nothing is happening. All the professors are doodh ke dhule poori zindagi, but only a few of them are actually doing good science here in IITs. Peace!
@saagar2002
@saagar2002 6 ай бұрын
@@Yash-nk3to I agree brother. On this same channel there is a discussion with Director of NIT kurukshetra, he acknowledges profs who just survive for 40 years destroying many lives in this tenure. I was shocked to hear IIT kanpur prof who has worked on flexible elctronics in 1990's that I proposed to my profs in late 2019 they laughed at me but come 2020 may MIT meche puts up a video the tech is so primitive, meaning a large scope of research and innovation. And our IISc director in a convo with Abhijit chavda said that there are profs " Having morning vada, coffee in the canteen dreaming about evening pakore and tea" But reality is we r fucked if we don't get good profs and 85% are fucked. I did mtech mech branch but it took 1.5 years extra as I got covid and the rules only graduate u in the even sem. 1 year of depression and insomnia, learning to get into software. When all ur friends in the US are getting married and having audis.
@Yash-nk3to
@Yash-nk3to 6 ай бұрын
@@saagar2002 Email hai bhai? email bhejdo let's connect
@shaswatvikramgupta
@shaswatvikramgupta 6 ай бұрын
Agree
@harichourasia7932
@harichourasia7932 15 күн бұрын
Sir I am a sales engineer....leaving the job for phd is good...? It is worth doing phd from second generation IIT.
@saleshbhardwaj1304
@saleshbhardwaj1304 6 ай бұрын
Don't demotivate students sir , aap chate kya ho
@vijayenderthakur8678
@vijayenderthakur8678 6 ай бұрын
thats what the video is .....pl listen n u ll understand what we want ....we want that students in phd are not tortured n good scholarship is provided to them n they be provided job opportunities after they spend 5 years in this rigorous course .....simple ....wats so diffcult for u to comprehend in this ....i m telling in very simple terms
@Thescholarinsight-on6rc
@Thescholarinsight-on6rc 6 ай бұрын
minimum criteria for the assistant professor should be PhD
@vijayenderthakur8678
@vijayenderthakur8678 6 ай бұрын
especially when so many are being produced in indian universities
@pankajraushan3497
@pankajraushan3497 6 ай бұрын
Phd with quality of publication
@raaz.2pi
@raaz.2pi 6 ай бұрын
Sir aaj he hostel m shift hua orr aapki ye video dekhli
@Yash-nk3to
@Yash-nk3to 6 ай бұрын
bhai direct PhD? ya Mtech krke aye ho?
@vijayenderthakur8678
@vijayenderthakur8678 6 ай бұрын
all the best do ur best
@raaz.2pi
@raaz.2pi 6 ай бұрын
​@@Yash-nk3tomtech krke
@sourabhdhiman9027
@sourabhdhiman9027 6 ай бұрын
Sir apki email ya telegram mil skta kuch guidance leni thi
@vijayenderthakur8678
@vijayenderthakur8678 6 ай бұрын
call 9855273076
@Prodbybah
@Prodbybah 2 ай бұрын
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