Why Pitching "Songs" To Publishers Doesn't Work For Songwriters: Do This Instead!

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Multi #1 hit writers Clay Mills & Marty Dodson explain why pitching your "song" is the WRONG approach for aspiring songwriters and the truth about what you should be doing instead.
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@SongTownUSA 6 ай бұрын

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@allanburton9385 11 ай бұрын

You guys are exactly right. When I first came to Nashville I met with a publisher introduced to me by a friend. He was gracious enough to listen to about a dozen songs. Each time I thought “this is the one that will blow him away!” Well, none of them did. He told me that none of my songs were pitchable. But, he heard good songwriting potential that needed developing. He set up cowrites with his writers. We ended up working together for several years and he is still a good friend. Like you say, he saw the bigger pitcher of who I was, even though he wasn’t interested in any of my songs.

@SongTownUSA 11 ай бұрын

Yes!

@Ces911 5 ай бұрын

write a song about the bigger pitcher!! 😄

@anonymike8280 14 күн бұрын

A bigger pitcher? You must mean, a 7'8" closer with a 134 mph fastball. I can hear it in my head right now. The Legend of Johnny Smoke. Wait, it's coming into focus even as I speak. Johnny can't stand the lights, the crowds, the travel or even the money. He closes out the big game, then walks off the field never to be seen again. He goes back to the hills, his childhood sweetheart and his first love, working on old pickup trucks.

@basscase78 Ай бұрын

Excellent segment. I love that perspective shift of songwriters aren’t just pitching songs, but they are really pitching themselves.!!! That is so true because Nashville is all about the relationship relationships

@Biscaynedave Ай бұрын

Thanks for the info, I live in LA so i should feel blessed, maybe i can find out where the producers hang out,

@richfyhr2279 Жыл бұрын

I don’t know anyone I appreciate listening to more when it comes to the reality of the music journey. Thank you both.

@claymillsmusic Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@bumblbesss Жыл бұрын

Just like movie actors in Hollywood everyone wants to be a star until you get a harsh wake-up call about just how many people are there. I imagine Being a Publisher is the same, you Just don't realize how many people want to have a song Published. Just like George Jones Said "But just a few are chosen To tear your heart out when they sing" or in this case write. Great job Song Town as usual 🎼🎵🎶

@allanburton9385 10 ай бұрын

No, I’m an attorney. Songwriting was a much loved hobby.

@transformationgeneration 2 ай бұрын

This was very enlightening. You guys sound really down to earth. Thanks for the tips.

@angusbrown2712 Жыл бұрын

Aa I’m the First Viewer , so glad to hear this great Advice. ,

@claymillsmusic Жыл бұрын

Yep just posted. thx Angus!

@ColtonVanceMusic 11 ай бұрын

Subscribed - I really appreciate this insight, excited to learn from you both more!

@SongTownUSA 11 ай бұрын

Good to have you in town! Cheers, CM

@TJEvideos1 Жыл бұрын

Very cool. Great info and insight. Always learn something new. Thanks boys!!

@claymillsmusic Жыл бұрын

You’re welcome!

@redcurrantrecords Жыл бұрын

Thanks, great insights.

@SongTownUSA Жыл бұрын

Glad we could help. Thanks for listening!

@theredheadedsinger Жыл бұрын

This is such great perspective. One good song doesn't make you a good songwriter. Can you consistently deliver and inspire the rest of the room as well. Absolutely love your honest approach to the business.

@SongTownUSA Жыл бұрын

Thx!

@claymillsmusic Жыл бұрын

We tell it like we live it :)

@j9cayres Жыл бұрын

Great advice once again. Thanks C & M!

@SongTownUSA Жыл бұрын

you're welcome Janine!

@JeffBostick222 Жыл бұрын

Wow! Great advice. Sounds like realistic advice.

@claymillsmusic Жыл бұрын

Thx Jeff!

@mjinsantafe Ай бұрын

Sage advice, gentleman.

@SongTownUSA Ай бұрын

Appreciate ya watching! ~CM

@gasparucciox9706 8 ай бұрын

intersting!

@britneywinland6721 Жыл бұрын

Great video ! My problem is I have to analyze everything to death . So I have to learn everything !!! Producing , singing , playing , photography , and writing ✍️ I’m ok at all but I’m finding out that writing melodies and lyrics is what I love to do 😊 thanks this helped guys 😊

@SongTownUSA Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped! ~CM

@UNREDACTEDTRUTH 11 ай бұрын

Ok, I literally 'tripped' on this youtube- but I couldn't stop listening. Do you guys know Jesus? Honest question! The way your humility shines through is just SO incredibly REFRESHING!! Thank you & God bless you both!

@SongTownUSA 10 ай бұрын

Glad you found us & yes! :)

@bottomfeeder1307 9 ай бұрын

They want a great songwriter? How would they know that by a songwriter selling themselves by the words coming out of their mouth which may or may not be true? I know a lot of good salespeople, but they lack creativity for sure. A songwriters songs should be the deciding factor, not their sales pitch. Unless music producers don't really want great songwriters... Maybe they just want faces that think they can write.. In my opinion, quality of songs has been on a sharp decline over the last few decades.. For example, one of my favorite songwriter's from the 80's is Diane Warren. As great as she was back then, she is nowhere near the songwriter she was. It's almost as if she woke up one morning and completely lost her gift, or perhaps the music industry has a leash around her neck. I prefer to believe the latter.

@SongTownUSA 9 ай бұрын

Yes, the idea is to be a great writer who consistently writes great SONGS. Not be a great salesman. A publisher doesn't want to invest their time and money into one great song. Or a B.S.'er . But, they will invest in a great writer who not only writes great songs, but can play well with others and is willing to work hard to keep turning in great tunes. The total package.

@bottomfeeder1307 9 ай бұрын

@@SongTownUSA What if the songwriter doesn't need or want to be invested in? Seems that the industry wants to simply "hire" full-time session writers that can co-write with others. Why can't the songwriter only get paid a royalty on what the song can eventually produce? What if there's a great song writer that's already retired and collects a pension and social security that only writes songs in their spare time. What then?

@SongTownUSA 9 ай бұрын

@@bottomfeeder1307 That's awesome. We have lots of SongTown members that write for the pure joy and don't need to have a staff writer job. There are other paths. This video was about one type of road. Lots of room these days to create and get your music out into the world. We'll talk about this in a future podcast episode. Write on! Clay

@EricJohnson-fh8zj 5 күн бұрын

Whats the best advice for a songwriter, who doesnt nessecarily have a great sounding singing voice themselves? My voice just doesnt translate well on record. I write catchy lyrics and melody pretty good, and i can "hear" a lot of stuff in my head that i just cant pull off on the track. I can produce and record a bit (good enough for demo's), and i know i tend to thrive in collaboration from my younger days making music...but i dont have much of a social life (lol) and dont know any good singers myself.

@SongTownUSA 5 күн бұрын

Hey Eric, I know hall of fame writers that don’t sing much so it’s not a big deal. Collaboration would be key. Most of our SongTown members. Write over zoom these days as well as in person. I would check out or member site where you can start socializing without having to leave home. It’s a great supportive community and we can also help you get your songs heard when they are ready. Write on! Clay www.songtown.com