Why Rey IS NOT A “Mary Sue”

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Күн бұрын

Punch It! To say that Rey Skywalker is a "controversial" character within the Star Wars fandom would honestly be a serious understatement. But is she REALLY overpowered?!
Let's take a look at Rey's trials, training, and experiences throughout the Sequel Trilogy, as well as canon comics and novels! With the help of Dan from Star Wars Centralized!
Stay Tuned for more, and MTFBWY!
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@StarWarsCentralized
@StarWarsCentralized Ай бұрын
Thanks so much for featuring me in the video!!
@Glitteringmoonstone2022
@Glitteringmoonstone2022 Ай бұрын
I love all the sequal characters, and actors. I hate that they had a sh*tty confused story and script to work with. Disney deserves that hate not the actors
@GaigeGrosskreutzsMissingBicep
@GaigeGrosskreutzsMissingBicep Ай бұрын
I love how she does "so much training" that u literally had to show the same silly clip like 20 times of her chopping at that rock backhanded lol.
@IvanPetrov-wb1vb
@IvanPetrov-wb1vb 19 күн бұрын
He shows it like twice lmao This is mad cope
@putridfenrir8508
@putridfenrir8508 8 күн бұрын
'Why doesn't he splice in whole scenes, Disney won't mind, is he stupid?'
@muigokublack6487
@muigokublack6487 Ай бұрын
She displayed amplitude with the force despite not knowing what The Force even WAS and it only got worse from there. She got TWO lessons loosely speaking, shot down three TIE Fighters with ONE shot, knows the Falcon better than Han Solo, and defeats the main villain IN THEIR FIRST DUEL. She also never suffers from the consequences of her actions. Luke and Anakin paid for their hubris by losing a hand. Mary Sue.
@IvanPetrov-wb1vb
@IvanPetrov-wb1vb 19 күн бұрын
Not really a Mary Sue when it's established that she is related to fucking Palpatine, one of the strongest force users to ever live and it was not amptitude lol She literally just pulled her lightsaber with the force instinctivly 90% of her fight with Ren was running away, 10% of it was her finally accepting her connection with her force and relying on it to predict Ren's moves Being really good at something despite lacking experience is not just a Mary Sue trait but also a general main character trait or a "chosen one" trait If you spend the whole movie setting up that someone is DEEPLY connected to the force then it makes sense to show them ya know... being really deeply connected to the force And she was aware of what the force was she just ddin't want to accept it because she didn't feel worthy that doesn't sound very Mary Sueish now does it? She does not in fact know the Falcon better than Han Solo lol not sure where she got this from The reason why she seems knowledgeable about it is because her father was a mechanic and she probably saw him changing the parts of ship dozens of times and maybe even helped out not to mention her spending years salvaging ships from parts Its not insane to say she knows a thing or two about ships since her life depended on it for a few years As for Ren getting defeated it had to be done early so they would have time to develope his redemption arc over the course of the 3 movies, if they defeated him at the end of the 3rd movie like Vader you would cry rivers that they copied the first trilogy lol For the tie fighter thing Luke also didn't have any experience shooting down tie fighters in the first trilogy yet he was also doing it lol And I don't remember about the last part so if you could please elaborate
@muigokublack6487
@muigokublack6487 19 күн бұрын
@@IvanPetrov-wb1vb No. She wasn't at first. That came later because you become that powerful without SOME explanation. SHE USED THE FORCE WITHOUT TRAINING. Pull or pushing things with the force requires training, the very basics at least. She's not the chosen one. Anakin was. How did she know A. Where the compressor was and B. HOW to bypass it? Never explained. She had never flown a ship before and the parts she scavenged were from an ISD not a YT-1300 and even then, the Falcon is a HEAVILY modified YT-1300. Nope. According to Adam Driver his character was intended to be unredeemable. Too far gone. That would've been intreasitng but let's ignore that. If the main villain is defeated in the first movie of the trilogy, it sucks out any menace they might've had. There's no stakes because the hero won therefore the villain is no longer a credible threat. Furthermore, Kylo was trained by both Luke and Snoke. How did he lose to someone who until that point never held a lightsaber much less how to wield one? Incorrect. He said in the movie that he used to bullseye whomp rats with his T-16 back home. Rey shot down THREE with ONE shot. Luke never managed that. Rey never suffers for her actions. Oh she gets sad that Kylo doesn't join her. That's it. She fights like how a Sith would, on anger and emotion. Any problem that might come of her actions is swiftly negated. She destroys the transport Chewie was on? Nope, he was on another transport! Made a mistake where she should've got her hand cut off? Nope! They deliberately miss! She's a Mary Sue. You wanna know why? The novelization for The Last Jedi has it where when she was being interrogated by Kylo and she turned it around she DOWNLOADED ALL OF KYLO'S TRAINING. I'm not making this up!
@al112v4
@al112v4 19 күн бұрын
@@muigokublack6487 You are lol
@octaviovaladaoferreirinhad2689
@octaviovaladaoferreirinhad2689 10 күн бұрын
The original Mary Sue would pay respects to her. Rey is on a different league.
@halowarrior03
@halowarrior03 Ай бұрын
I enjoy every part of Star Wars since the Original Trilogy on VHS. It sometimes hard to see a fanbase so divided on what they enjoy and what they despise and can be hard for new fans to join. Here’s my take, I enjoy all three trilogies and you have a different opinion than mine, that’s fine, you enjoy what you enjoy and I’ll do the same. Don’t force anyone to follow your opinion, and if you’re one of those people, I suggest follow a different franchise that you enjoy the most because you don’t like where this series goes. For me and the rest of us are going to enjoy Star Wars and see how Rey is going to do in the future film
@phoenixragsdale4579
@phoenixragsdale4579 Ай бұрын
See, the thing I can't stand about the sequels was never Rey herself. Sure, there are moments with her that make no sense, like the Jedi mind trick scene. But for me, the real issue was the overall handling of the trilogy. The wasted potential of characters like Finn and Phasma, each episode retconning the previous one, lots of "subverting expectations" that felt like a mockery to other characters like Luke, Snoke, and Hux, stiff fighting, BRINGING BACK PALPATINE... It all makes the trilogy feel like a sloppy, inconsistent fanfiction that wasn't proofread. It was even revealed after TROS that they had no solid plan for the films... Even tnough George Lucas gave Disney the blueprints for every episode!! 😫😫😫
@SeverinoSajche
@SeverinoSajche 2 күн бұрын
She is an inspirational role model for everyone, especially young women, because of her courage, determination and kindness.
@octaviovaladaoferreirinhad2689
@octaviovaladaoferreirinhad2689 Ай бұрын
Deep down I envy SW fans like you, because you are Disney's target audience. They work for fans like you, it is people like you that keep them making new shows and movies. And because of that you will keep enjoying their products now and into the future. May the Force be with you.
@paulpaterson1661
@paulpaterson1661 25 күн бұрын
He is not a Star Wars fan, he is a Disney Star Wars fan.
@tenzillionfilms620
@tenzillionfilms620 19 күн бұрын
​@@paulpaterson1661 Oh just piss off.
@al112v4
@al112v4 19 күн бұрын
Is this a negative or a positive comment? I can't tell.
@al112v4
@al112v4 19 күн бұрын
@@paulpaterson1661 What's the difference between this and people hating the PT?
@octaviovaladaoferreirinhad2689
@octaviovaladaoferreirinhad2689 18 күн бұрын
@@al112v4 It's neither. Personally I don't agree with anything said in the video. For me Rey set a new standard, a new benchmark to which every other overpowered, flawless, carelessly written one dimensional protagonist will be compared and something that every writer should carefully study in order to avoid it. But that's my opinion.
@nitrozeus6393
@nitrozeus6393 Күн бұрын
Gold man made a great video on why Rey is not a Mary Sue.
@MiaMiller-ub6yu
@MiaMiller-ub6yu Күн бұрын
Rey represents the new generation of Jedi who are not bound by the rules and prejudices of the past
@JacquieKluck
@JacquieKluck 2 күн бұрын
Rey is a symbol of hope and strength for many people, especially girls and women
@jwroot
@jwroot Ай бұрын
It's okay to make character, regardless if they are male or female, flaws and make mistakes.
@zacharywilliams6337
@zacharywilliams6337 Ай бұрын
Honestly heres the thing about Rey in TFA and TLJ that always perplexed me when people said shes overpowered. She really doesn't do anything thats really that much more powerful then what Luke did in his first 2 movies. The only thing i could think of was when she pulled the mind trick on the storm trooper.
@runsoncaffeine
@runsoncaffeine Ай бұрын
@@madlad1741 lmao, know way you said she flies the falcon better than Solo. You did not watch this video at all, bud.
@zacharywilliams6337
@zacharywilliams6337 Ай бұрын
@madlad1741 I mean I would say your just plain stupid. She beats an extremely wounded Kylo Ren. also she uses her staff in the movie so clearly she has hand to hand combat skills so not that surprising that she can lazily wave a lightsaber. She never pilots the Falcon in TLJ that's chewy. She does not beat Luke all that happens is Luke and her fight with a couple sticks then Luke grabs her staff and she force grabs the lightsaber causing Luke to back up and he trips and uses the force to catch himself. That's not a win he'll this wasn't even a fight you interpreting it that way kind of just tells me your insecure about something. Lifts boulders like every other jedi okay sure whatever. So gets on a gun and shoots some tie fighter like Luke okay. Literally all you got in t he mind trick my dude. So your little dome there doesn't seem to pay attention and just repeats talking points from chuds on KZfaq who have been proven wrong time and ti e again.
@zacharywilliams6337
@zacharywilliams6337 Ай бұрын
@madlad1741 well let's see here again she's fighting a wounded opponent and she used a staff so I can believe she has enough skill to just lackadaisically swing a lightsaber . Jedi Mind trick I'll give you. She never piloted the Falcon in The Last Jedi that was Chewy. Her and Luke got in a little tussle he threw her staff she got the lightsaber with the force and Luke backed up and tripped. The fact that's like a beating up Luke moment for you makes me wonder if your insecure about something. Oh she lifted up a bunch of rocks big deal again what are you insecure about?
@zacharywilliams6337
@zacharywilliams6337 Ай бұрын
@madlad1741 yeah I watched TFA I saw how she crashed tge falcon a few times I also saw how her job on Jakko was to pull stuff out of ships while Han and Chewy throughout the OT couldn't even figure out how to fix the hyperdrive. And we've already been through the kylo stuff I destroyed your arguments on that already. Luke could've lifted his X wing if he had just believed in it which yoda tells him. So there are moments in the movie that explain these apparently huge problems I can only think of 2 reasons for why you keep repeating them. A. Your comprehension sucks and you just weren't paying attention to the movie and when you heard these critisms from like people you decided to adapt them as your own, or B. Your insecure about something what it is I'm not sure you said women in your last comment so is that it?
@kaygee2121
@kaygee2121 Ай бұрын
@@madlad1741Dude, the reason she knew how to fix the falcon was because that shithead that "took care of her" on Jakku changed some parts, and she knew about that. If I remember correctly, she "bypassed the compressor" that shithead had added or something. That explains that. The folks that say Rey isn't a Mary Sue, are the fans that actually watched the sequels more than once because they weren't overly hurt by Luke not being the hero they always held in their minds.
@TrajGreekFire
@TrajGreekFire Ай бұрын
0:06 Protein in Urine
@grudgeisdead
@grudgeisdead Ай бұрын
God forbid you make a video of your own valid opinion and not follow the opinion of the fandumb menace.
@BatAmerica
@BatAmerica Ай бұрын
Despite my frustrations with the sequel trilogy, I fail to understand her being a Mary Sue. Sure, they could have featured her training more frequently, but typically, Mary Sues are established to be a perfect self-inserts without any flaws. Rey, meanwhile, is consistently shown to be hot-headed and naive, such as rushing to attack Snoke despite knowing nothing about him in Episode 8 or thinking that it was a good idea to head into the dark immediately when sensing the force with Luke. Or in Episode 7, when she decided it was wise to take BB 8 with her and not attempt an escape plan after the owner tried to buy him.
@benjaminroe311ify
@benjaminroe311ify Ай бұрын
Omg Yes! By all means the sequels have problems but Rey a Mary Sue? Where the heck does THAT come from.
@GGBlaster
@GGBlaster Ай бұрын
I think part of that claim comes from a lack of lasting consequences due to Rey’s flaws/mistakes. Indeed, she had flaws and made mistakes. She fired a lightning bolt at a transport ship she thought was carrying Chewie, but as the audience first and Rey later would find out, Chewie did in fact survive. Rey was brutally mentally assaulted by Snoke in TLJ, but she seemed to get up and walk off with no sign to indicate that her mind was just recently forcibly broken into. She goes into a dark side cave to find out who her parents are, only to find out the depressing answer that they were “nobodies.” But even that was subverted in the next film by clarifying that Rey was in fact a Palpatine, and that her parents bravely died protecting her from discovery. Heck, she hasn’t even lost a limb yet, like somebody please just cut off a toe or something. But, uh, then again, she could probably use force healing to restore whatever was lost. Well, maybe not entire limbs, but definitely fingers, as Clonepatine demonstrated in TRoS.
@kaygee2121
@kaygee2121 Ай бұрын
@@GGBlasterIt always somehow comes back to her not losing a limb. How ridiculous. Her struggle is more mental. She's strong and hard-headed.....why would she be completely broken after her encounter with Snoke? She's the protagonist so she's supposed to prevail. After the dark cave though, she is vulnerable and confides in the enemy. That's not the smartest move now is it? She makes plenty of mistakes and has to overcome her darkness. Just because she doesn't lose a limb or suffer from the same physical loss as Luke did, doesn't make her a Mary Sue.
@GGBlaster
@GGBlaster Ай бұрын
@@kaygee2121 I didn’t say she was one. I’m still studying the films and trying to get a better understanding of the story and Rey’s role in all of it. As for loss of limb, it’s honestly very little to lose for a whole lot to gain. In universe, lost limbs are replaced with cybernetics, which serves both to allow the character to “keep” their limb while also leaving a permanent reminder of what they’ve lost. It’s almost like a cheap magic trick, but it absolutely makes the character more human. I see it as a simple way to help frustrated fans appreciate Rey at least a little more. After all, how bad is it to lose a fictional arm or leg, if it can improve the character and story?
@kaygee2121
@kaygee2121 Ай бұрын
@@GGBlaster That's fair. I've just seen the limb argument over and over. I personally don't see how losing a limb would be like the ultimate test for her or anything, but I like how you put it, and what the significance would mean to you.
@SkiteRight
@SkiteRight Ай бұрын
"through context clues and media literacy" amounts to exactly the same sentiment as "through imagining content that was never shot or written"
@kaygee2121
@kaygee2121 Ай бұрын
It's called critical thinking. You should try it sometime 😉💖
@SkiteRight
@SkiteRight Ай бұрын
@@kaygee2121 critical thinking is precisely what tends to prevent people enjoying the sequels
@grudgeisdead
@grudgeisdead Ай бұрын
@@SkiteRight A complete lack of critical thinking*.
@chandlersleziak6416
@chandlersleziak6416 28 күн бұрын
​ @@SkiteRight You clearly failed English class if you hate critically thinking about the media that you consume.
@SkiteRight
@SkiteRight 28 күн бұрын
@@chandlersleziak6416 you misunderstood what I'm saying. To do critical thinking in regards to the star wars sequels leads to enjoying them less because all the bad writing and poor planning becomes apparent. To do critical thinking in regards to something well made usually leads to enjoying it more, because you discover more of the nuance and detail that went into it. The sequel trilogy isn't like this.
@engineerdeluxe
@engineerdeluxe Ай бұрын
The cope is strong with him..., ;-)
@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS
@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS Ай бұрын
How
@octaviovaladaoferreirinhad2689
@octaviovaladaoferreirinhad2689 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@engineerdeluxe
@engineerdeluxe Ай бұрын
@@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS - Because Rey is a Mary Sue.
@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS
@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS Ай бұрын
@@engineerdeluxe how so
@engineerdeluxe
@engineerdeluxe Ай бұрын
@@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS - Lightsabers skills without training, Pilot skills, Engineering skills (in the Millennium Falcon). The list is long. I bet you will find a video here on YT on than topic if you are interested.
@redstretchy4061
@redstretchy4061 Ай бұрын
7:33 Grogu's species is astablished in the Star Wars universe as being extremely in touch with the force im pretty sure, and even with this exceptional power Grogu's abilities remain unpolished and draining, you can witness this in the show I believe.
@boardtoonsguy
@boardtoonsguy Ай бұрын
Thank u for this video. Completely agree. To me, the journey of both Rey Skywalker and Kylo Ren has always been abt fighting the past and creating the future, abt finding the balance between them. And it's smth incredibly relatable to me, smth that represents my own struggle. That's the reason I love Rey and that's the reason I love sequels.
@user-ij1ss3cs7i
@user-ij1ss3cs7i Ай бұрын
You super fanat
@kaygee2121
@kaygee2121 Ай бұрын
💯
@kaygee2121
@kaygee2121 Ай бұрын
@@kafukwamekemeh You know what they say about assumptions... Not sure if you meant me or the OP but I've been a huge SW fan since 1999 my guy. You don't have to have a hateful perspective to call yourself a fan. Stop gatekeeping with lousy excuses.
@kaygee2121
@kaygee2121 Ай бұрын
@@kafukwamekemeh Also, "know" not no. I don't usually correct grammar, but when you're talking about writing, KNOWING proper grammar goes a long way for your argument..
@kafukwamekemeh
@kafukwamekemeh Ай бұрын
I am not even sure you were star wars fan before TFA released
@jstock2317
@jstock2317 Ай бұрын
omg why is she evenly matched with Kylo?? oh yeah cause they're a force diad duuuhhhhh she is essentially protected by the force to fulfill her destiny.
@shonenking3948
@shonenking3948 Ай бұрын
That makes no fuckin sense whatsoever
@alaudbrother
@alaudbrother Ай бұрын
Or maybe Kylo Ren is just nowhere near as skillful a fighter as presumed?
@al112v4
@al112v4 19 күн бұрын
Kylo wasn't as skilled as many think + he was injured.
@kamakazi5103
@kamakazi5103 Ай бұрын
I really didn't see any character development happen to rey in that trilogy
@runsoncaffeine
@runsoncaffeine Ай бұрын
then you didn't look hard enough.
@Eclipse-mf6hc
@Eclipse-mf6hc Ай бұрын
Neither did I tbh. Those films still leave a bad taste in my mouth, but it’s good to hear other ppl’s opinions
@kafukwamekemeh
@kafukwamekemeh Ай бұрын
@@runsoncaffeine ohh yeah because there isn't any
@shonenking3948
@shonenking3948 Ай бұрын
Jesus Christ this was a hard watch
@paulpaterson1661
@paulpaterson1661 25 күн бұрын
How is your Disney sponsorship going? Two things. Seriously stop waving your hands around and Rey Palpatine IS a Mary Sue
@neomatrix4412
@neomatrix4412 Ай бұрын
failed
@benwelsh5265
@benwelsh5265 Ай бұрын
My man
@kaygee2121
@kaygee2121 Ай бұрын
Thank you 💖 I totally get where the haters are coming from, but Rey isn't a Mary Sue and I'm so tired of that arguments. The ST is extremely flawed (no SW is perfect anyway) but it's sad the haters can't fathom her struggle and journey. They just latch onto the grift.
@SkiteRight
@SkiteRight Ай бұрын
The vast majority of the people who saw the film wouldn't identify as haters or grifters. They simply watched the movie and it didn't effect them emotionally. That's the failing of the filmmakers, not the viewer
@al112v4
@al112v4 19 күн бұрын
@@SkiteRight I thought Rogue One was boring as hell and then Andor did exactly what I wanted out of that movie. Did the filmmakers failed that or it's only when it's convenient to you?
@SkiteRight
@SkiteRight 19 күн бұрын
@@al112v4 in this instance, it sounds like the rogue one filmmakers failed you personally. I didn't mention myself at all. Only the general public, most of whom have not responded to the sequel trilogy. The evidence for this being its complete lack of cultural impact or follow up projects
@santiago451
@santiago451 Ай бұрын
It's cool that you like the sequels, more power to ya. But if you have to rewrite the script of a movie with a series of inferences so that it makes more sense, that's a pretty good sign that the script is crap to begin with. Good stories don't need appendices, rewrites, nor fan fiction to make sense, they don't need fixing. Good stories stand strong by themselves.
@IvanPetrov-wb1vb
@IvanPetrov-wb1vb 19 күн бұрын
Except he didn't rewrite anything??? He literally showed and stated things that were said or done in the movies lmao Wtf are you talking about dude
@al112v4
@al112v4 19 күн бұрын
So the Prequels failed by that logic?
@thesis-and-nieces6722
@thesis-and-nieces6722 Ай бұрын
Appreciate you not trying to bash anyone who disagrees just to prop yourself up. You do you! I don’t think anything from sequel was good. So 🤷🏽‍♂️
@kevinmurker8980
@kevinmurker8980 Ай бұрын
Wrong!!
@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS
@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS Ай бұрын
How so
@thegoodreylo4749
@thegoodreylo4749 Ай бұрын
People complain about her being skilled and then complain about the lightsaber choreography not being like the Prequels. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
@SkiteRight
@SkiteRight Ай бұрын
The character wins situations because the writers want her to. It's a double whammy of it not making sense character wise or choreography wise. It's all a problem.
@thegoodreylo4749
@thegoodreylo4749 Ай бұрын
@@SkiteRight It’s like Stan Lee said….. the writer decides who wins….. and it DOES make sense character wise.
@SkiteRight
@SkiteRight Ай бұрын
@@thegoodreylo4749 obviously the writer decides everything that will happen in the story. What I'm saying is, Rey is so often called a Mary Sue ONLY because the writers so obviously want to present her winning. She doesn't have any low points and subsequent growth to show us how she earns her victories. She may have a history that is explained in some extended novel or something, but I'm not to know that from watching the films and listening to the dialogue. All I know as a viewer is that I never have to worry about any situation Rey is in because I know she'll win. This takes away any tension or reason to care. This is why so many people have issues connecting with Rey.
@MasterJade
@MasterJade Ай бұрын
Umm, what? I am pretty sure bad "choreography" has nothing to do with these characters' power. *ESPECIALLY* in canon lore. For example the choreography in The Original Trilogy is seems like "weak" compared to the prequels. But What did we see in canon lore? Vader got stronger, stronger and stronger, he is *very athletic* in Vader dawn(or Vader down? I don't remember the name exactly, sorry it has been a while since I read it), he matched the speed of the emperor in hidden empire for a while, suit is not that important problem in this lore. He has many impressive feats in Vader series. Luke got stronger, matched Vader(yes including a Vader who literally WANTED TO DEFEAT HIM for a while according to RoTJ novel which became loosely canon after the decanonizing "operation") Yoda improved his teachings, which didn't limit Luke at all, new style training and new generation. And yet Original trilogy is the same, we only can explain this by "bad" choreography(it is better than sequels') and limited technology. All of these teachings, new generation, new way, some pre-F.A comics which focused Ben Solo's fall, the student of new generation who is very skilled, creating storm from his rage, killing zilo monster by himself (Vader couldn't) But when it comes to the sequels, they were children playing with sticks. I think people is right about this. Resisting Kylo Ren's mind trick and "reversing it"? ... I think Rey deserved way more good force argumentation in TLJ, TRoS. At least I would say sequels have epic fights. People are right about complaining.
@thegoodreylo4749
@thegoodreylo4749 Ай бұрын
@@MasterJade It makes sense for Rey and Kylo to fight like children playing with sticks. They basically are.
@stephencornelius3396
@stephencornelius3396 Ай бұрын
The Mary Sue attack was mostly about The Force Awakens and, like you (at least didn’t mention it), the sexists grasping at a way to criticise this new female icon overlooked one major training boost Rey got during that film: Kylo delved into her mind and found he’d not only bitten off way more than he could chew, but also demonstrated how to invade the mind of and influence others, and that is demonstrated to us as she immediately turns the tables on him, delving into his mind and picking up who knows what else in addition to what she uses to disturb him, possibly aspects of his own training. But the important point here is that at the speed of thought he showed her how to use the Force, getting her over one of the biggest hurdles a trainee in the Force can face, a factor he acknowledges later, when he mentions that she’ll be growing more powerful by the minute. The other factor regarding their fight at the end of TFA is that he doesn’t really want to kill her. He wants to recruit her, which gives her time to get her act together and then puts him on the back foot.
@kaygee2121
@kaygee2121 Ай бұрын
Precisely. None of these same people ever complained when Grogu was shown to also have healing powers. And so many like to forget that in TFA, Kylo was mentally handicapped from just killing his father, massively hurt from chewie's bowcaster, and doesn't even want to kill Rey...just wants to convince her to train with him.
@SkiteRight
@SkiteRight Ай бұрын
Buffy Summers is a female icon. Ellen Ripley. Rey Palpatine is a poorly conceived and deployed commercial product
@kafukwamekemeh
@kafukwamekemeh Ай бұрын
@@kaygee2121 Excuses, didn't he injuire Finn in a fight even tho he was so-called injuired. And btw he could have used his force abilities on Rey and since the dark side feeds on anger and hatred which he had at that moment he could have won
@thaThRONe
@thaThRONe 27 күн бұрын
The only explanation for Rey after TFA was if she had previous training. When you watch that film under the assumption that she was Luke last remaining student from his Jedi school that he wiped her memories and left here on Jakku for her safety then it all makes prefect sense. The Jedi mind trick, the piloting the Falcon, the Kylo "What girl comment", Snokes obsession with her, Closing her eyes and tapping into the force while fighting Kylo, etc. When Ruin Johnson decided to do his on thing he officially made Rey a Mary Sue. He even made her Mary Sue attributes worse in TLJ.
@IvanPetrov-wb1vb
@IvanPetrov-wb1vb 19 күн бұрын
​@@kafukwamekemehExcept he DID use his force abilities so that's a shitty argument, dude was literally throwing her around using the force, the reason why he didn't use more advanced abilities was because he realsied that Rei was a quick learner and that showing her anything more ran the risk of her learning how to do it
@subscorpion9560
@subscorpion9560 Ай бұрын
Thank you! You and Dan are sharing what I always said about Rey. She’s my favorite character and I think she’s not a Mary Sue. I love the sequel trilogy with no shame at all, it’s part of the Star Wars universe. Thank you very much
@kafukwamekemeh
@kafukwamekemeh Ай бұрын
Okay consumng the next product and after that consume again
@ldcg106
@ldcg106 7 күн бұрын
Nah, she's a Mary Sue and this sequel abortion is as much part of Star Wars as a malignant tumor is part of the human body.
@thaThRONe
@thaThRONe Ай бұрын
This video is an exercise on mental gymnastics to explain a terrible decision and wasted a character with good potential. Rey is a Mary Sue who was never trained yet has undeserved skills and abilities. After TFA it was obvious Rey was a student of Luke's academy when Rian Johnson abandoned that plot he killed the sequel and damage Star Wars lore.
@Ahs23199
@Ahs23199 20 күн бұрын
Just like Luke who blew up the Death Star the first time he ever flew a ship
@thaThRONe
@thaThRONe 20 күн бұрын
@Ahs23199 Not remotely the same. The story let's the audience know Luke is a talented pilot. Obi explains to Luke what the force is and he gives Luke a basic training on how to channel the force. Rey gets no such training before she is capable of using the force to do mind tricks. I had no issues with her after TFA because I thought it was very obvious she was connected to Luke being a student(and even potentially being his daughter).
@tenzillionfilms620
@tenzillionfilms620 19 күн бұрын
​@@thaThRONe Nah you're wrong it's entirely the same situation. 1. We're informed that Rey has been surviving on Jakku by herself with barely any help. 2. She already works with ships "I've flown such ships but I've never left the planet." the fact she already 3. She fights with a staff which gives her an advantage with a lightsaber. 4. In terms of training it's easier for her to understand how things work by herself because she's been independent all her life. 5. It's also called Fantasy, characters like Rey are created to be a legend just like Anakin and Luke.
@ldcg106
@ldcg106 7 күн бұрын
​@@tenzillionfilms620Nope, not even close Luke is actually established prior and then shown to be a great pilot, but he isn't singlehandedly the reason the Rebels win at Yavin 4. Major, sure, but not the only one Using a bowstaff and using a sword are completely dissimilar techniques; hell, given the difference in surface area of handling each weapon, her experience using her staff might actually put her in a disadvantage when using a lightsaber. How is her being independent even remotely relevant to her knowledge in using a weapon she's not even seen once in her life? There's fantasy and then there's 🐎💩
@tenzillionfilms620
@tenzillionfilms620 7 күн бұрын
@@ldcg106 I literally just said the reasons why but you ignored me acknowledging that Rey was established to be able to do these things anyway. Goodbye. 😊👍
@SheevPalps868
@SheevPalps868 Ай бұрын
Rey is definitely a Mary Sue. I don’t know why people like this guy keep trying to convince themselves that she isn’t. She’s strong from the beginning. We see her fighting off thugs and using her quarter staff proficiently. She can outmanoeuvre TIE fighter pilots who are some of the most highly skilled pilots in the galaxy. Luke in episode 4 got beat up by a couple of tusken raiders and was being bullied by two drunk guys in a bar. Then in episode 5 we see him struggling to use the force, and he gets his hand chopped off by Vader. Rey in her second movie was fighting off snokes guards, and by the third movie she was stopping ships mid air with the force, and accidentally using force lighting. She had about 1 years worth of training and she could accidentally use one of the most powerful force abilities that we’ve only seen 2 people use this before (in canon), and those two people are literal Sith Lords who had trained for decades.
@octaviovaladaoferreirinhad2689
@octaviovaladaoferreirinhad2689 Ай бұрын
I once saw a guy arguing that we should stop calling Ray a Mary Sue and instead begin calling Rey any flawless, overpowered with impenetrable plot armour, fully developed female protagonist. His point was that she is far more powerful than the original Mary Sue and set a new standard for this kind of character. Examples: live action Mulan is a Chinese Rey, Captain Marvel is the MCU's main Rey. She Hulk, a big green muscular Rey. Mila Jovovic's character in latest Resident Evil movies, definitely another Rey.
@dess5189
@dess5189 Ай бұрын
Yea Luke was a loser who got beat up a lot. We get it.
@Vrex360
@Vrex360 26 күн бұрын
-We see her fighting off thugs and using her quarter staff proficiently. She has been living for fourteen years on a hostile planet. Of course she has learned to defend herself. -She can outmanoeuvre TIE fighter pilots who are some of the most highly skilled pilots in the galaxy. Oh fucking bullshit, TIE fighters were never ace pilots. Everyone could out maneuver them. >Luke in episode 4 got beat up by a couple of tusken raiders and was being bullied by two drunk guys in a bar. He then massacred dozens of Stormtroopers in his first ever firefight. And again Luke was Farmboy who grew up soft, Rey was a hardened survivor who had to learn to fend for herself. -Then in episode 5 we see him struggling to use the force, and he gets his hand chopped off by Vader. He also disarms a Wampa, destroys an ATAT on foot, outmanuevers Boba Fett etc. It's funny how you PRETEND he had no insane feats he pulled off in that trilogy. - Rey in her second movie was fighting off snokes guards, How dare the main character be involved in a fight scene? Doesn't she know as a woma.... sorry "Non Mary Sue" her duty is to stay on the sidelines while the men.... "Experienced characters" do all the fighting for her? It's not like that moment was the culmination of her dynamic with Kylo or anything. >and by the third movie she was stopping ships mid air with the force, After a full year of training, you know that thing you pretend you care about when you can shit on Rey and otherwise don't care? - and accidentally using force lighting. She had about 1 years worth of training and she could accidentally use one of the most powerful force abilities that we’ve only seen 2 people use this before (in canon), and those two people are literal Sith Lords who had trained for decades. Question, I am a filmmaker. My main character has anxiety of where her power is coming from and is afraid she is going to lose control of it. I need to hint to the audience that her power comes from Palpatine, how can I visually hint at this early on without spelling it out? That right there is what matters. Not made up bullshit space facts.
@IvanPetrov-wb1vb
@IvanPetrov-wb1vb 19 күн бұрын
​@@Vrex360Sir I would just like to thank you fot beinv one of the only sane comments in a sea of POS's looking for a reason to hate a movie lol
@ldcg106
@ldcg106 7 күн бұрын
​@@Vrex360ik >"Anyone could outmanuever them" Tell that to the hundreds of Rebels that had more piloting training than Rey and died fighting for their freedom from tyranny >"Luke massacred dozens of Stormtroopers in his first firefight" Luke also had the help of Han and Chewbacca on his first fight and also the element of surprise >"Disarmed a Wampa, destroys an AT-AT on foot, outmanuevers Boba Fett" All of which he barely survived, the 1st one left him in a bacta tank, the 3rd one had him sneaking around (he didn't outmanuever 💩, if he did, he would have saved Han sooner), he had 1-2 years of experience fighting for the Rebellion, and the last 2 didn't even involve using the Force She didn't have any training whatsoever in either lightsaber technique (quarterstaff and swordsmanship are very different) or the Force, because Luke didn't teach her 💩 and she wins againts guards whi have years worth of training and experience, yet she barely gets hurt at all >"After a year full of training" And yet Anakin couldn't pull ½ the 💩 Rey does out of her 🍑 after 10 years of infinitely better training despite being concieved of the Force itself > "How can I establish that her power comes from Palpatine without spelling it out?" First if all, Force Lightning is a Dark Side power, it doesn't belong to Palpatine, as exemplified by Count Dooku in the movies and by so many other Sith Lords in the infinitely better Expanded Universe. Secondly, you failed; if you spelt it out any more, you would have a neon sign the size of the Death Star. Thirdly, aggressive uses of telekinesis or telepathy that border on pragmatic or evil would have done just fine. And lastly, Force Lightning is a skill that has to be learned and taught through training, it isn't an inherent ability like sensing stuff or visions. It's the equivalent of screaming and then earning a black belt in Kung Fu because of it, it's ridiculous even by fantasy standards. That is what actually matters, not the 🐎💩 yiu are pulling from deep within your 🍑 in order to cope over the fact that Rey is a terribly written character and Luke is superior to her in every single way possible.
@ChristianGibbons777
@ChristianGibbons777 Ай бұрын
💙💚♥️🖤from🇨🇦#NewViewer here BTW😎7:32 How?? Well, more training then Rey ever got while, at the Jedi Temple. Also his species just like Grogu live much longer than humans. So I mean add that with the fact that he does have some formal training for a youngling Padawan or aspiring Padawan now that he’s with his Mando Bro. The Force can also Will many things. So the Force may have guided him at critical moments, just like what may have happened with Rey as well; but, Grogu probably lived longer than Rey. So what it means for Grogu to be young is likely different for what it means for Rey. So taking that all in to account. I’d imagine Grogu having more time to grow up compared to Rey also helped alot as well.
@LegendaryLorekeeper1977
@LegendaryLorekeeper1977 27 күн бұрын
I can sense the Soy, it's strong with this one. No comprehension of Greek Literature or Theatre, no frame of reference of the Monomyth or Joseph Campbell, even toddlers create better characters than Disney. Merciful heavens Star Wars is dead, and it died with thunderous applause.
@Vrex360
@Vrex360 26 күн бұрын
I love how there's all this fluster but you can't provide a single counter argument.
@IvanPetrov-wb1vb
@IvanPetrov-wb1vb 19 күн бұрын
The anti-woke is strong with this one... So much yap so little arguments... Truly, the darkside has taken him..
@al112v4
@al112v4 19 күн бұрын
So was George a toddler when he needed help to create and make sense of his story and how he completely butchered his own creation within 3 movies?
@onlyds0822
@onlyds0822 22 күн бұрын
I re watched The Phantom Menace a few days ago. I loved what Obi Wan grew up to be as a Jedi first needing Master Qui Gons advice and training to being able to take on Darth Maul on his own. Do you see my point? Rey is good because Disney allows her to be. Even people are confused how she can “bypass the compressor” by just yanking a cord and everything is fine. That’s not how engineering works. Meanwhile Obi Wan had to work harder to get where he is at now.
@tenzillionfilms620
@tenzillionfilms620 19 күн бұрын
Uh no Rey is good at her skill because she had to live on a desert planet by herself learning how to survive for years on end.
@onlyds0822
@onlyds0822 19 күн бұрын
@@tenzillionfilms620 Then explain how can she do Force Lightning without any knowledge or training? Guide the Millennium Falcon without knowing how it works? Also survival doesn’t equal being powerful and having immense knowledge about the Force. Rey is a Mary Sue and it’s obvious to everybody’s faces but some are afraid to admit it. #DisneyShill
@tenzillionfilms620
@tenzillionfilms620 19 күн бұрын
@@onlyds0822 1. She used force lightning only once out of pure frustration, she had no idea she could use it 2. I'm talking in physical fighting, and as we know Rey is the granddaughter of Palpatine she already has an advantage. 3. About the falcon. I already told you, she had worked with such ships already. There's a pretty decent quick line from her in VII "Unkar Plutt did, I thought it was a mistake too but it's putting too much stress on the hyperdrive" if you use your head you can guess that she's already worked and been taught by Plutt about the ins and outs of ships 4. Ahhhh I'm a shill because I'm using logic and knowledge to my advantage while you're the one aggressively throwing arguments out with no actual backing evidence. Ah alright. Guess I should just blindly follow the herd.
@onlyds0822
@onlyds0822 19 күн бұрын
@@tenzillionfilms620 1. Force Lightning takes knowledge and training to know. It’s not something Rey can do just by out of “pure frustration” as you call it. I told you Rey has no training but Disney makes her out to be a very powerful protagonist. 2. A grandkid isn’t always going to be better than their predecessor. If anything elders know more than children do by a long mile. 99.9% of the time. If Obi-Wan, Qui Gon Jinn and Yoda were still alive (I know they’re not family related but using them as examples because I’m debunking Rey being too good), each would wipe the floor with Rey in physical combat and lightsaber fighting. 3. Now did Plutt give Rey test drives before, or is that another one of your guesses? Guessing doesn’t mean it happened. 4. I’m calling you a shill because Disney Star Wars ruined the Star Wars Skywalker Saga completely and you and your sequel lovers are trying so hard to hype it back up. Also I’m not here to change anybody’s opinion because really it is fun to debate people like you.
@tenzillionfilms620
@tenzillionfilms620 19 күн бұрын
@@onlyds0822 1. Emotions are related to the force in many ways and abilities like any in life can be discovered through pure frustration. Again, she didn't learn it she used it out of unknown ability and frustration. 2. No but I said Rey has a HIGHER ADVANTAGE. Also yes course they would they had decades of experience. 3. Uh no this is already stated in the film and it's known already through visual storytelling.
@goblintownhobbies
@goblintownhobbies Ай бұрын
Well this is a lovely breath of fresh air! Thank You, insta sub and cant wait for more!
@GaigeGrosskreutzsMissingBicep
@GaigeGrosskreutzsMissingBicep Ай бұрын
A STAFF IS NOTHING LIKE A LIGHT SABER. Thats like saying I can sword fight just because I know how to use a spear.
@javierlopez9789
@javierlopez9789 Ай бұрын
Incorrect.
@extrojan22
@extrojan22 Ай бұрын
Bottomline the audience feels like the conflict she had wasn’t viewed seriously. You know whose was Jyn Erso. This needs to be the blueprint on how to write a strong female lead character in SW. she went through some shit and earned respect in the end.
@al112v4
@al112v4 19 күн бұрын
LMAO Jyn did nothing of importance besides following the plot. If only she was more shallow than Rey.
@PeterBierfeldt
@PeterBierfeldt Ай бұрын
I must disagree. An arc of embracing the force is not much of an arc. Why did she not feel worthy? And what made her suddenly feel worthy? We never get answers because the script is so bad. She had literally no training against a soldier literally trained in use of the light saber by the greatest Jedi of all time with deep strength in the dark side. Her defeating Ren by simply “embracing” the force is idiotic. It means she got lucky. Comparing this to the shot against the Death Star makes no sense. Luke did shot at targets that size. Luke did have some strength in the force to control a shot that he was already capable of making. Rey at best can be said to have gotten lucky. And much more skill would be required to defeat someone in hand to hand combat. It makes no sense that Ren ends up defeated by someone who knows absolutely nothing about light sabers or combat with them.
@nicholaslin1630
@nicholaslin1630 Ай бұрын
I feel the hate against Rey is the same against Taylor Swift attending NFL games to support her boyfriend. Men who refuse to accept women's presence outside and in public.
@Scarred_Kat
@Scarred_Kat Ай бұрын
Or maybe people and not just men don't like a character or person being forced down their throats on sports or media that they enjoy.
@TheTrex9000
@TheTrex9000 Ай бұрын
This has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with bad characters. I like Leia more than any of the male characters Disney has produced so far.
@bananess_
@bananess_ Ай бұрын
Rey is a Mary sue.
@lailahjannell2686
@lailahjannell2686 Ай бұрын
Rey is my favorite character and Rise of Skywalker my favorite movie. I appreciate your enthusiasm and enjoyed this video!
@benendr7639
@benendr7639 Ай бұрын
While I love TLJ/TFA more, I agree that Rey has grown to be one of the best in this trilogy!!! I cannot wait for her next chapter.
@benendr7639
@benendr7639 Ай бұрын
At this point you're trolling me so here's just quick things you might not know about me: 1. I did not care about Legends at all and the new canon is the only proper thing introducing me to the Star Wars franchise and I've been quite enjoying them ever since without having to listen to online people like you bitching all the time. 2. I'll look forward to reading legends but not with you gatekeeping like this. Shut up.
@corn.3892
@corn.3892 Ай бұрын
Yeah, but in my opinion Finn is just so much more interesting and something we haven’t seen before, sadly he got as much character development as Babbo Frick (no idea how to spell him).
@themultiverseisbroken4365
@themultiverseisbroken4365 Ай бұрын
I love the character of Rey and nobody will convince me otherwise
@romangamingboy6083
@romangamingboy6083 18 күн бұрын
Can you please unblock me?
@vic_bucks
@vic_bucks Ай бұрын
3:55 By this logic, all aerospace engineers can fly airplanes because of their knowledge on building one? Moreover, the problem people have with Rey already knowing how to fly isn't merely the practical issue. But more importantly, WHY would she learn? She had no interest leaving the planet because she believed her parents would come back for her one day and even when Finn and BB8 eventually get her off the planet, she immediately wants to go right back to Jakku. Why would someone with no interest nor intent to leave the planet be interested in learning how to fly a spaceship? The only reason they did this was to make her character "Female Luke Skywalker " for this trilogy. However, Luke's motivation to learn to fly makes sense since he actually wanted nothing more than to leave Tatooine asap. Rey's character motivation is the exact opposite of Luke, She wants to stay put, but the writers just ignore that inconsistency because it would be inconvenient for the plot.
@Vrex360
@Vrex360 26 күн бұрын
Because Rey IS interested in leaving the planet. That's why she looks longingly out at the ship leaving. She WANTS to leave but can't bring herself to do so.
@yaff1851
@yaff1851 Ай бұрын
The missing link between Rey and the fandom is an equivalent of Luke being the ‚best bush pilot in the Outer Rim‘ or Grogu‘s training as a youngling. In EP7, the writing wasn’t that bad: Rey wasn’t quite as overpowered as in EP8 and 9 and it was fun to speculate what awesome revelation would explain her extraordinary abilities. Unfortunately, the writers just couldn’t stop doubling down on not providing sufficient explanation.
@kirgan1000
@kirgan1000 22 күн бұрын
Luke get beaten up by some sand people, Rey beat up some tugs, Luke get speak down to in the bar, Rey speak down a scrap hunter.... etc
@TheTrex9000
@TheTrex9000 Ай бұрын
Guys, he's just tryna bait comments. There's no way he actually believes this, he's just trying to get people to boost his video in the algorithm so KZfaq finally notices him.
@michaelspath8499
@michaelspath8499 Ай бұрын
Remember when Luke was sad that he lost Obi Wan, or when Han wouldn’t help him fight the Death Star?…Leia consoled him. Rey has none of that. Her actions are a hero fighting for everyone’s freedom from oppression. But there is nothing beneath that. With Leia, I feel like I could have a meaningful conversation if I ever met her. I do not dislike Rey, but with her, I feel nothing.
@MattGraves01
@MattGraves01 Ай бұрын
Sorry but Rey is a Mary Sue. She is fabulous at everything for no reason. Has no character journey and no low points at all. She wins at everything effortlessly.
@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS
@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS Ай бұрын
She isn't fabulous at everything, she struggles to bargain and is being beat my Kylo Ren and only beats him cause he's wounded. She does have low points. She struggles with who she is and accepting the idea her parents didn't care about her then struggles with her true heritage in Rise of Skywalker
@MattGraves01
@MattGraves01 Ай бұрын
@@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS Struggles to bargain? That's not a character struggle. That's just Kylo being too deep in the dark side. Kylo should have beaten Rey despite being wounded. Dark side users can use their pain as a strength power up. So Rey has zero logical reasons of winning. Just because you say she has low points, doesn't mean she had them. The films didn't go into depth about her heritage, nor if she she had any struggles with who she was and where she came from.
@Danjen3ify
@Danjen3ify Ай бұрын
@@MattGraves01 Kylo Ren isn't a true dark-sider. That's the whole point with his character arc.
@MattGraves01
@MattGraves01 Ай бұрын
@@Danjen3ify Doesn't disregard his training and experience over a nobody who is perfect at everything on day 1.
@Vrex360
@Vrex360 26 күн бұрын
She got her ass kicked by Snoke and easily lost to Kylo in their Duel on the Death Star ruins in ROS. Stop lying.
@EmperorZelos
@EmperorZelos Ай бұрын
except she is
@benjaminroe311ify
@benjaminroe311ify Ай бұрын
No she's not. It's a stupid take. You can complain about the hastily thrown together plot. The destroying of Finns character...the rushed production of episode 9....thd throwaway tactic with Snoke and the boring low speed chase plot among other problems. But Rey isn't a Mary Sue. That's a RUBE take.
@MattGraves01
@MattGraves01 Ай бұрын
​@@benjaminroe311ifyShe is a Mary Sue. She is fabulous at everything and has no character journey at all.
@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS
@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS Ай бұрын
​@MattGraves01 she isn't
@MattGraves01
@MattGraves01 Ай бұрын
@@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS She is.
@kaygee2121
@kaygee2121 Ай бұрын
@@benjaminroe311ify Word 💯
@wickdaline8668
@wickdaline8668 Ай бұрын
This is us if we see each other in real life as the sequel apologist we are: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qt6liqqgv6yXlas.htmlsi=oWMTqKQYeAnvz5yA P.S. Your name is Jacob. Not Dillon. I get it.
@Trollolguy
@Trollolguy Ай бұрын
If you don't consider Rey as a Mary Sue, then you wont ever consider any character to be a Mary Sue.
@runsoncaffeine
@runsoncaffeine Ай бұрын
look up what a Mary Sue actually is then come back here.
@SuperPlacido1
@SuperPlacido1 Ай бұрын
@@madlad1741 How she is a Mary-Sue? Have you watch the video?
@MattGraves01
@MattGraves01 Ай бұрын
​@@SuperPlacido1Did you even watch the films? Rey has no character journey. She has no low points. She is fabulous at everything for no reason.
@SuperPlacido1
@SuperPlacido1 Ай бұрын
@@MattGraves01 Did you even watch the video? Because this video proves otherwise! It's as if you hadn't even watched the video! If you didn't, that's pathetic!
@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS
@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS Ай бұрын
​@@MattGraves01she does
@robonderwater5272
@robonderwater5272 Ай бұрын
Rey is a Mary Sue in TFA. It has taken Disney almost 10 years to repair that with a clear and concerted effort in additional media. And now you claim that she never was a Mary Sue. That's rich.
@gavinmyatt5589
@gavinmyatt5589 Ай бұрын
Okay zoomer.
@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS
@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS Ай бұрын
And Anakin was a Mary Sue in Phantom Menace
@MattGraves01
@MattGraves01 Ай бұрын
@@CRYSTAL_CUSTOMS Wrong. First he's a kid, Second his abilities he used in TPM weren't refined as other force abilities. And thirdly, he was conceived by the force, so naturally he has some advantages.
@kaygee2121
@kaygee2121 Ай бұрын
@@MattGraves01By your logic, Anakin was certainly a Mary sue, and so was Luke.
@MattGraves01
@MattGraves01 Ай бұрын
@@kaygee2121 Wrong. Anakin and Luke both failed in lightsaber duels. Both have training unlike Rey. And both had a character journey. Rey does not have any of those things. She is perfect in every way and never loses a fight.
@Eugromlol
@Eugromlol Ай бұрын
who cares the whole last trilogy is ass
@md11x6
@md11x6 Ай бұрын
u r
@TheAdorkableRJ
@TheAdorkableRJ Ай бұрын
Complain about Rey getting the hang of the Jedi Mind Trick or Lightsaber combat in such a short time all you want. It's not an altogether invalid criticism. But personally, I always appreciated how much more cinematically interesting her establishment as a budding Force-user was compared to Anakin's or even Luke's in each of their first movies. With both Anakin and Luke, we're mostly TOLD that they're strong with the Force, with very little visual storytelling to help convey that. Anakin's strength with the Force in The Phantom Menace is mostly established with...Qui Gon and Obi Wan saying so. Because the kid has a really high Midi Chlorion count. Luke's strength with the Force in A New Hope is established with...Obi Wan saying so. Because he knew his dad, who was also strong with the Force. At least The Force Awakens made more inventive use of film as a visual medium by SHOWING us Rey's strength with the Force. Having her discover and grow into her powers(albeit quickly) by instinct will always be a more immersive way of conveying a supernaturally powered protagonist's journey.
@kafukwamekemeh
@kafukwamekemeh Ай бұрын
It breaks the rules of how the force works since it takes years for u to master the power of the force And especially since they introduced force healing without any explanation or buildup
@nightsheart6929
@nightsheart6929 Ай бұрын
why poop is good for you should be the next video.
@user-us8wu6fn3u
@user-us8wu6fn3u Ай бұрын
rey is a poorly written character ... enough simping..
@benkhan9851
@benkhan9851 Ай бұрын
Rey is a brilliantly written character. Enough coping.
@danielschoch4881
@danielschoch4881 Ай бұрын
@@benkhan9851 She is a frankenstein monster. Cut together by others legacies and names.
@GKelpy
@GKelpy Ай бұрын
@@benkhan9851lol ur a booger bro
@zacharywilliams6337
@zacharywilliams6337 Ай бұрын
It's always about simping with you jokers.
@OwenTheNerd05
@OwenTheNerd05 Ай бұрын
1:49-2:22
@Remythechef
@Remythechef 11 күн бұрын
People just hate Rey because she’s a girl. And heaven forbid a woman wields a lightsaber at least once in this franchise, despite there have been several before her.
@Vrex360
@Vrex360 26 күн бұрын
Take a shot everytime you see a Rey hater get pompous and spiteful but be completely unable to provide a counter argument to any of the video's points.
@jhmvjhvg
@jhmvjhvg Ай бұрын
Embarrassing video.
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