Absolutely LOVE your last sentence! Yes!! I concur. This is how I feel even about body typing. There are too many exceptions to the "rules," too many variables, too many different opinions, etc. Wear what you love and "f*ck the rest!"😁

Exactly

@@preciousypenguinoyou can wear whatever you want tho, even if you do fit into a category very well. none of this is law, just guidance for helping you to appear effortlessly good for events, interviews, photos, and/or your daily life if you so choose.

It’s so frustrating isn’t it? One makeup brand told me I was a winter probably because I had very dark hair and eyes at the time. But I have a warm skin tone do I would never be a winter! Sometimes a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing! Stick to what you feel is right fir you 😘

I bet they think EVERYONE is cool-toned skin because the lighting is always blue at makeup counters!! Your skin may LOOK cool-toned but your UNDERTONE is what you're looking for. I have yellow-toned skin, ppl thnk that means I'm warm but if you're trained, you know it really doesn't mean anything - you HAVE to drape that ivory and that pure white IMHO to determine. I'm actually cool undertone.

I was told I was warm toned and have a normal skin type when I went to a makeup department in a store. Lol...never in my life have people told me I have any warmth to my skin, hair, or eyes and my skin type is dry. I looked horrible in oranges, yellows, and browns. I have no idea how these people are working there. The people at the store are so clueless. My man even asked about a cologne one time and he had more knowledge than the one at the perfume department.

I was draped as a winter and found the process to be totally accurate. I looked sickly in anything warm-toned!

They aren't half of them don't go to school ! Only some of Use did

I agree. I’m an Autumn, but love the interesting way that artists combine colors that I wouldn’t think of putting together.

Agree! I thought online shopping would be great - but for me the problem was a screen can never get the true color right. So, as a dark summer, finding that what I call the "summer coral" color was impossible - if it goes too orange which is always did once in my actual hands - the magic it did to my skin was gone. Frustrating really.

@@jamiefrasier1862 try Kettlewell Colours.

You should try Kettlewell Colours. They make a wide variety of clothes in each of the four seasons so you can always find your best colors! I'm a winter and love how I can find the perfect cool reds, greens, and pinks for my season! They're in the UK but ship to the US and other countries.

Especially if you’re petite.

Right. Most of these people end looking like a clown. And the super saturated bright winter colors will annoy them, eventually. Plus, somewhere, sometime, they will find a HONEST feedback and they will dislike it.

Color analysis doesn't mean you are stuck with those palettes. Also, wear what makes you FEEL good and alive. When you feel good, you look good.

​@@carmaela2689The problem is that there is absolutely no proof at all that this theory is true. I and many people even proved it wrong by looking great in colors that are not in “our palette”, and not looking particularly good with some colors in “our palette”! Why invest so much time, energy, attention and money into something so limiting, subjective and that doesn't have any proof or scientific basis anyway?

Same. I'm actually a soft summer, so black should be a no-go according to my colour palette. And mind you, I'm not a person that only wears black, but I do wear it and I do think I look good in it, even though my palette doesn't agree. Personality is so important! However, I do try to add in more colours from my palette too, which is an interesting challenge :)

Same! I’m an Autumn but still have some black pieces in my wardrobe. I try not to wear black near my face, as it does me no favors, but that comes from knowing how bad I look in cool colors. So it’s not about ridding myself of black, but knowing how to wear it.

Me too based on it says I’m deep autumn but I’m more of a bright spring suits me the best other people can see that too

Thank you Lucy, I am so pleased you enjoyed it. I think you should be able to wear colours that you love and you can incorporate them with colours that "should" suit you. It's really common to find someone who is Bright colouring who doesn't like bright colours or is perhaps more introvert and doesn't want to stand out in bright colours, so adapting to work with your personality makes the colours really yours :)

Sounds perfect 👌

Thank you Eleanor for your comment. I am so pleased to have helped you and that you have developed the confidence in yourself to choose what you love. Colour is always tricky because there are those who want the "rules" to give them a framework and of course I can provide that and do give a starting point with the dominant and secondary colouring and there are those who don't want to be restricted to a set palette. Somewhere in the middle works well I think because it allows you to be creative and a recommend creating a wardrobe with a palette of colours so that you don't end up with lots of pieces that don't go with anything else. But you can expand that palette overtime by adding 2 or 3 pieces in a new colour. I hope you continue to enjoy exploring x

I’m so pleased you enjoyed it. I’ve just filmed a new video on colour you might enjoy too 👍

@@Mariafsadler I'll surely check it out!

Thank you, I am so pleased that I have helped you 😀

Thank you 😊

If you love hot pink Mary Lou, wear it. You might find that if your hair is grey you have moved from a Soft to a Cool and hot pink looks great on a cool. But even so you could mix it with some of your softer pinks to create a blend as well :)

Mary Lou Hi! I am 65 and I used to be an autumn in the 80:s but now I wear my hot pinks and purples and black....and I feel great!

I bet hot pink looks stoking next to your white hair!

I wear my bright spring colours on the top e.g. hats and scarves. I wear navy, black and dark denim jeans or trousers. I wear bright in spring handbags and handbags e.g. tan, black and plum don't suit me but I like those colours so will use those as an accent colour.

Thank you 😊

You are still looking like an Autumn !

I am on the same journey with you😂

Then you’re most likely warm toned and you could either be a autumn or a spring. People tend to forget that not all fair skinned people are cool many are warm toned. It’s not about overtones it’s about undertones.

@@lesliegonzalez2858 thank you!

I don’t trust that Sephora gadget. I let them use it and pick a foundation for me without really questioning it. When I got that foundation home and put it on, it looked ridiculously yellow against my skin. That gadget read my olive skin as yellow, but the garish yellow tone of the supposed matched foundation on my skin said that gadget was dead wrong.

Thank you for your comment Sherry. It sounds like you are overloaded with advice which contradicts and are left confused :) I developed my system exactly for this reason because so many women are still confused even after having colour analysis and often more than once as you have. I would suggest rather than trying to fit yourself into a box or type use colours that you know work and add in others that you love and that give you confidence. If you would like to use my colour service you can find more details here :) www.mariasadler.com/colour

Hi Donna, yes your season or palette can change with hair colour. Skin tone can also lighten with age too and that can affect your colour palette. As hair goes grey for example, a warm skin tone will look better with lighter and softer colours whereas a cool skin tone with hair that has got grey looks great with cooler and some brighter colours. My hair was very dark brown when I was on my 30's making me a deep Autumn but in my 20s with blonde highlights I was better in the Soft Autumn colours. It is the combination of hair, skin and eyes that affect your colour palette so if one of those changes you may want to adjust the colours you wear. :)

You can adjust your colours by going a few shades lighter if your colouring has softened and perhaps leaving out black or wearing it with a softer colour. If you or your daughter want to have analysis redone I have an online colour service www.mariasadler.com/colour that would help 😀

I had my colors done also, and I'm a True summer, quite happily so. BUT I can pull some True autumn teals, burgundys, bricks and plums, as long as they are not too dark or not too light, about the same color intensity like TSu. As a teenager I have lived in those colors - even if they weren't the best, I was young and the result was nice, similar to your daughter. What I cannot do is to borrow from Light summer (too light, too close to spring which is tragic on me) or Soft Summer (wash out).

Hi Karla, I don't use the seasonal method for colour analysis. I use the tonal method as a starting point and then tailor colours to suit my clients. I developed this season exactly for the reasons you describe and because so many women are still confused even after having colour analysis. It sounds like you have found some colours that work for you and that you are happy wearing. If your skin tone is warm there will be some colours in both the traditional Spring and Autumn palettes that work for you. So I would suggest rather than trying to fit yourself into a box (Autumn or Spring) use colours that you know work and add in others that you love and that give you confidence. If you would like to use my colour service you can find more details here :) www.mariasadler.com/colour

@@Mariafsadler ,thank you! I've ordered your Colour Manual.

It’s difficult for me to say without seeing you. But it might be that your colouring is bright if you look good in bright colours. Then you may have a warm skin tone and golden colouring would normally say warm rather than cool - which is what a winter is. I have a colour analysis service if you need more help www.mariasadler.com/colour 😀

@@Mariafsadler thank you so much for your answer! I will have a look to the colour service! 😃

You sound like you have olive skin and you’re a winter. I also can’t wear warm or cool foundations. I have light skin and had to find a greenish foundation which is neutral. And I’m a dark winter. So you’re probably some kind of winter.

@@BbGun-lw5vi well it finally turns out that i am completely cool toned, even pink. Thats why I am best in fuchsia, blue etc. But my skin is so fair that nearly every foundation is too dark - and then I look like piglet 🙈🤪. The solution seems to be a very, very fair and cool / rose foundation. So the problem was not the too pink, but the too dark foundation.

@@majorneryz I’m glad you figured it out!

I’m afraid I disagree. I don’t like the 4 season approach for the reasons I gave in the video - not sure from your comments if you watched it 😀 I would never be a winter even with dark hair because I have a warm skin tone and this is the problem, so many of my clients have been Mis analysed by people who don’t understand. Thank you for your thoughts but we will have to agree to disagree 😀

In this case many redheads will be put into summer because it is not uncommon to have reddish hair and a cool skin undertone. The summer colors just don't go well with warm red hair that is high in contrast.

I don’t use the seasonal colour analysis so I wouldn’t call you a winter or a summer and I also wouldn’t recommend you take advice from someone without them seeing you! You may be cool colouring if your hair is grey but not everyone is. If my hair goes grey I wouldn’t be cool or summer or winter. I’m happy to help if you need it 😀

You can’t assume anything without seeing her I’m afraid

Take away the label “spring” and wear what suits you physically and emotionally. It sounds like you have a good idea of what’s right for you and what’s confusing you is being put in a box - my pet hate! 👍

I’m sorry to hear that I hope you get some tips from my channel that help

Glad you liked it!

Thank you I’m so pleased it helped you 😀

Thank you 😊 I’ve gone a bit lighter now the grey is coming in but still like the richer colours

That’s one of the reasons the seasonal approach doesn’t work!

Not if skin undertone is the basis for analysis.

@@penelopelambson9128 that’s what I was wondering. Sounds like most people are not doing the colour analysis correctly. Because your natural hair colour may not even match your undertone.

Yes as you know I don’t like the seasonal approach and sadly I have had so many clients who have been analysed wrong and left really confused. It sounds like you have a mix of warm hair and cool skin, so choosing colours that don’t go too far in one direction or the other. So orange is obviously at the end of the warm scale and fuchsia on the end of the cool scale. So a pink that sits nearer the middle might be better. There are universal colours that sit in the middle like taupe and pewter as well as teal. I hope that helps 😀

Sandy copper guy here. And you’re right. Hazel eyes, very Irish pink cheeks. I wear a lot of clear spring. That takes in a lot of winter brights. Very little yellow, lots of pinks, violets, greens, and blues. Burgundy and a couple autumn greens and peacock variances. Brown isn’t the best. All greys are good. Mostly that palate works for me, and I wouldn’t have had my colors done but I was wearing black or white off duty, too (I was Navy active at the time); female friends made me go to Hall’s shopping.

@@gszabofan Thank you! It's almost the same for me: warm gold-reddish hair color, cool skin undertone with blue veins, and gray eyes (darker and not clear). While warm autumn is not as wrong as the other seasons it's still not right. All the browns, oranges, yellows and reds emphasize the blue circles under my eyes, make me look sickly pale and somehow drain the glow from my hair. With pinks it is almost the same. In green I almost always look great (except for very light greens or if there is too much brown in it), darker blue and violett are good too. Also greys are fine, if not too light. Teal however does not look so good on me. Probably ideal for me would be one half of the warm autumn palette and another half of the cool winter palette.

@Rosa Wolke have you looked at clear spring and clear winter? These are closest to me as a combination, cool and warm person. Warm hair, green veins, cool and rosy face. The golden mustard and yellows are awful, but garnet red, warm camel, teal, and oddly sky blue are all great.

@@gszabofan Thank you for your reply :) Yes I looked into both, clear spring & clear winter but many of these colors are too bright for me (while the summer colors are mostly too soft). I just found a complete yt-video on skin undertones specifically for redheads and they also talk about why seasonal color analysis is way more difficult for us.

That’s an interesting take 👍

What color system has 32 types? I would love to use it! I don't fit into the 12 type system.

I agree personality is psychology not visual harmony. I don’t have to like or use my color information, it’s just a tool, in my toolbox.

I have similar problem - my best colors are from winter, but I'm ash blonde... I've seen it a few times already: "if your hair is not super dark, you can't be a winter" or "if you're blonde, you can't look good in jewel colors". Well, try me, I guess? It's the things that contrast me that look best, while the whole seasonal palette is made with the assumption that you should follow natural colouring, not contrast it.

@@tymondabrowski12 I feel you! I can TOTALLY see how an ash blonde would look best in winter colors. Honestly, the idea of categories is slightly helpful at best. If you are someone who is completely lost, I can see how it can be helpful. I'm 54, and this is not just a personal take. EVERYONE agrees I look great in blue-pinks and terrible in peach. We are INDIVIDUALS.

@@tymondabrowski12 Always trust your own eyes, color analysis will give you only the shade of each color (e.g., warm red, cool red, muted red, vibrant red) that will look best based on your skin tone, it can not give you your personal best colors. Plus the results are not on an absolute scale so it might be that even your worst green looks better than your best red, as an example.

I dunno, still I don't see a palette that says "use whatever color, just dark or intense". Don't use white, don't use peachy, don't use pastel blue or green, don't use light grey, but use intense blue, or green, or dark purple, or black, everything that it's light or pastel. One would think it means winter, but wherever I look, "a blonde cannot be a winter, ever", and I'm not that cool, bright intense orange or red still looks better than light cool pink or pastel blue. That's because everything on my face is pretty greyish (ash blonde hair, blue grey eyes, neutral skin), but has a reasonably high contrast (very pale skin, very dark eyelashes and eyebrows, medium dark hair, even eyes have dark circles around he iris), and when I wear anything too light, especially before summer (no tan), I just look half dead. Thereis a slight cool bias though, so it's not completely neutral, I think. But the lightness and intensity of the colors are way more important. But whenever I look up seasonal palettes, there is none that fits. From the looks alone, it would be probably summer, but the summer colors don't work well. And generally it seems like there is this idea that with muted colors on the person, one can only wear muted colors, which is, again, a terrible look on me (though especially light - light grey, beige, but medium grey is still much worse than intense color with the same lightness) despite my features being muted/greyish. I would like to go once to a specialist that checks with colored fabric and see what they say, just out of curiosity.

Yes good point. My pet hate is hearing someone say “I’m not allowed to wear” wear what you love and what gives you confidence and be guided by the colours that suit you 😀

A good tip I got years ago was to eliminate seasons based on lipcolours. If brownish/auburn for autumn, burgundy/cherry for winter, so on so forth. I knew I wasn't a spring because peach and coral lipstick looked tragic lol.

If you can *find* anything about it, try looking into a 16 season color system. I spent a year-and-a-half researching color systems and trying to find a palette that satisfied me and only *just* heard of the four additional seasons from this reddit thread www.reddit.com/r/coloranalysis/comments/883hod/muted_dark_winter/

For me there is also no season :(

Did you watch the video and my explanation or any of my other videos that clearly demonstrate I have extensive experience in colour analysis over many years and thousands of clients. I didn’t say I don’t believe in colour analysis and I do understand it as I have been trained to do it. What I said was I believe putting people into 4 colour boxes - seasons is too restrictive. As you say, you would wear a different colour lipstick but you aren’t me, I didn’t ask for an opinion on my lipstick and not sure how you are qualified to advise but it’s a good job we are all individuals which was the point I was making in the video.

​@@Mariafsadler Thank you for making this video. There is no season where I really fit in because my features are a mixture of warm and cool. Maybe this person did not really watch til the end.