my theory is that paimon is related to sillie(who guide for chest) because she also guide traveler. She may be god but not for humans, she is somehow related to sillie.

@@conquerorofevil8776 sillie theory 😹

I think Paimon's true purpose might be similar to Elysia's in Honkai Impact 3d. She can be the child of God (Primordial One), like Jesus Christ, that will sacrifice herself for humanity (Teyvat). She already has the power of the 9th element, look at her chest and the universal dice in TCG - it's the same triquetra. She could be the exact reason why MC is able to use all the elements. 9th element is called Kether or The Crown, which is what we see above Paimon's head... Coincidence? I don't think so. Yes, I said 9th because 8th element is Physical, it's called Malkhuth. Tree Of Life in Kabbalah consists of 11 elements in total, so we're still missing 2 - Daath and Yesod.

don't you think that Genshin is more inspired of Gnosticism ? and also, now that im typing it i think it can be both, because Gnosis means knowledge in greek.... hmmmm

@@bshthrasher Where are you getting all those names from ? can you explain your theory ?

Yay, paimon is god of sticky honey roast

And Protection

God of Emergency Food

God of Fisherman’s Toast

God of food

well, she'sa Guide. so obviously she knows stuff about every country.

This could be due to having some properties of the supposed god of time or moments so she is kind of born with predetermined knowledge. This would be my conclusion but it seems very far fetched still.

Make Sense since Traveler Said "Until i met you 2? 6? Months ago"

but the traveler and paimon were already a lot of time togeder before the game started, during that time the trabeler was learninr the languaje and writeing of this world

Yea in the new sumeru world quest, paimon mentioned that she was not very happy 'before' she met the traveler, and that she is happier now

It’s amazing! The lore AND the music. Super appreciative of all the effort to make such a cool experience :)

the world building, sound design, character and environment design are all solid. At this point, it's promotions towards the game and in game events are a cultural phenomena. It's amazing to see

aye yo preach

Because its a gacha game with way worse % to hit a 5 stars compared to other gacha games, thus good lore and music are needed to keep this kind of gacha game alive.

Nice lore but mayber poor execution?

It could also explain why the time surges happened on the second entry and not the first. Her being there on the first arrival may have triggered the time anomaly

what did Makoto say already ? I don't recall her speak of Paimon during the new seed process

@@quantumfang2185 yes! It would also make all the time shenanigans in the Shogun quest make much more sense as it would then not be the powers of Makoto or Ei that caused it, but Paimon.

@@loick5378 9:24 "Time extends into infinity; Dreams illuminate each moment within When both shine in unison..." I think Time/moments are a reference to Paimon, and Dreams could refer to the traveler. But that is a loose interpretation.

To correct myself, "Dreams" are represented by Makoto and now Ei. The traveler represents "ambition", not "dreams".

I understand that you beleive you found something, but this has been talked abt since the release of liyue

This has been known since we knew the names of the gods

the fact that the archon's names are from the Ars Goetia/Lesser Key of Solomon has been known ever since we learnt Venti's name

Damn guys, let bro live lol, I didn't know this till I saw their comment

@@dbosstkkc6447 you probably just got into genshin theories, this was like the first genshi theory ever

Time Fuckery is a powerful tool.

It’s possible she, as God of Moments/Time has reappeared from the future and has those memories only in moments. That shade could’ve made sure she remembered only what Teyvat is. She could’ve been born before the apparent new timeline.

You aren't understanding, the Traveler met her the moment she saved her

doubt.. literally NOBODY ANYWHERE WE GO KNEW OF HER so where did she travel prior meeting us. .. in a circle with zero humans..? u mean to tell me.. piamon travelled and literally zero katheryins know her until the first one we meet gets to see and interact with her.. she doesnt even know any of the people.. ncps even units who are running the places or the systems or orders etc.. SHE NEVER BEEN TO ANY OF THEM.. literally zero beings know of her prior to them meeting her with you... she probably... if piamon is a "og" god or something of that nature.. is obvius she would INHERENT NATURALLY MEMORIES.. so thats probably why she knows stuff.. how u know she didnt fall out of the "false sky" into the water similiar to how the twins came down.. they came inside meteorites by the way.. maybe piamon was formed and a star/fruit fell and landed in the water.. then just like aether who woke up WAY LATER after lumine who btw opened his "shell/space pod" aka meterite.. how u know piamon didnt just ironically "wake up" and was also underwater so insert the drowning part.. by ironically i mean it was PLANNED by whoever dropped piamon ... and also MEMORIES in genshin are heavily focused/related to the "trees" easily explains why she knows a bit of teyvat.. remember lenorad.. his constellation fell from the sky.. and its kinda obvious the "stars" are the FRUITS of the tree.. so id say replace "egg" with SEED kinda like kusunalli's birth.. lol again we literally play the game with her.. she is clearly NOT INFORMED at all of everything.. she knows the basics.. as if she has inherent memories of stuff.. and in away think agin kusinally.. she is still to YOUNG to full tap in to her powers and knowledge herself.. paimon in away if true.. fits that situation.. she didnt know how was ruling bodies in charge of any nation.. literally didnt know who jean was .. the knights.. the background.. didnt know the liyue stuff.. etc etc etc... she knew basic stuff.. still alot but clearly not a sign of a person actually having BEEN TO THOSE PLACES... and NOBODY EVER AT ALL KNEW HER.. if anything i think the "imaginary tree" ON PURPOSE sent the twins and paimon to tyvat.. and they arent aware of it yet... if not the tree then maybe the "primordial god" did.. also birth life death...recycle rebirth repeat thems.. no reason to assume the primodial if it is piamon also doesnt go thru this process... so taht means shes a kid thus has to regain/relearn stuff and even rediscover who and what she is... again its odd that in all of genshin.. piamon got the same damn crown on her head thats above all the trees in all the dungeons.. bruh look at her cloths.. sure morax is the god "of mora" butt lets be real.. HE WAS HIRED.. he didnt make that symbol nor did he make mora.. his power is GIVEN and he's essential MINTING MORA... look at her sleeves.. its also on all the statues and in the domains... paimon is fiercely loyal to the travellor and that also brings up another theory.. paimon is one of the kings of hell AND MOST LOYAL AND ONLY LOYAL TO LUCIFER.. twins names are probably not by accident luminiferous aether aka Lumine and Aether u can think of them as "fallen angels" im more convince something set things in motion.. they were destined to be together... Paimon teaches all arts, philosophy and sciences, and secret things; he can reveal all mysteries of the Earth, wind and water, what the mind is, and everything the conjurer wants to know, gives good familiars, dignities and confirms them, binds men to the conjurer's will. its almost as if piamons does that on a basic level WHILE getting everyone to like and love u as the MC.. aka binding people to the MC again its still speculation. .. butt i easily gave explanations taht perfectly explain what u have issue with.. wether its true or not.. we have to wait and see... so right now.. im more convinced.. paimon FELL FROM THE SKY landed in the ocean.. the woke up from her "seed/meteorite" whatever and was instantly drowing and the MC "saved her" the question is.. did the mc witness her "land" then come up .. or was she down there the whole time and woke up from her "shell" when the mc happened to be near by.. we dont know what happened prior to that event... all we know is that for 2months piamon taught the MC the language and its also why she is the MAIN voice for us.. shes helping us to make sure we understand by repeating/rewording what npc's say which annoyes many players.. shes not doing that for the players as if they didnt understand.. tbh lore wise shes doing to make sure the MC understands lol... also we dont know what paimon and the travellor told each other during those 2months ouside of teaching language.. maybe the MC trusts and told piamon he fell.. becasue he saw her fall themselves or she told him she came from above.. WE KNOW NOTHING butt thse are very plausible explantions .. not "issues" that u say u have..

I remember her saying that she's actually closer to that of an adult than of a child even tho she's small.

And if your theory about someone did in fact mess up the timeline then it kinda makes sense because at the start of the game the time is pretty much still

or Hoyoverse left out some continuation problems in the story and that's why its strange.

@@ItsMeWindmill If we go look at other things in this universe until now, and miHoyo's attention for detail lore-wise, it seems more likely that we are simply missing a part of the puzzle, than that they suddenly decided to not care about such a vital detail at the very start of their game, doesn't it?

@@jandepaepe4262 By going from your explanation. The puzzle missing is that Traveler did meet Paimon before the game starts. the first point is that the Traveler didn't have the fishing rod as he could have lost it and the second point of Traveler telling their story to Paimon was for context and exposition for the game and it could also fit in the lore as the Traveler regaining their memories as Traveler spent time with Paimon to regain their memories. The reason we couldn't find the location of the Traveler fishing up Paimon was that it could be from Gordo port or somewhere where we have no access until we do and the reason we told Paimon our story was so that Paimon can help us find our sibling and find the Unknown God.

literally know.. voice lines kinda vaguely confirm . the 2months after fishing her up... she spent that time TEACHING THE TRAVELLOR THE LANGUAGE .. even in voice lines shes impressed u got the hang of it in such short time.. its also lowkey why she talks for us.. and explains/repeats/rewords what npcs say for us.. for u the player it can be annoying.. lore wise.. SHES MAKING SURE AETHER/LUMINE understand it... also lets be real.. piamon is smarter then people think.. and so is the travellor.. they probably have some natural connection taht just makes them more intune with one another.. espeically if say the "imaginary tree" or "primodial" intentionally things in motion like this... fyi low brain juice baby... is clearly for her "age" smarter then any human irl ever on earth... if a "toddler" talks and thinks like her.. SHE BEYOND A GENUIS when she grows up... its almost if an all knowing god went thru a birth life death then rebirth .. aka she literally maybe a toddler GOD.. in no universe would i ever call a child dumb if it was speaking full langauge and helpign solve problems and etc.. despite often child like behaviors.. xD also yes its obvious both the traveloor and piamon know more about each other then the game reveals to us about what they know... paimon is fiercely loyal to the travellor and that also brings up another theory.. paimon is one of the kings of hell AND MOST LOYAL AND ONLY LOYAL TO LUCIFER.. twins names are probably not by accident luminiferous aether aka Lumine and Aether u can think of them as "fallen angels" im more convince something set things in motion.. they were destined to be together... "Paimon teaches all arts, philosophy and sciences, and secret things; he can reveal all mysteries of the Earth, wind and water, what the mind is, and everything the conjurer wants to know, gives good familiars, dignities and confirms them, binds men to the conjurer's will." sounds like piamon is doing all the above on a basic level and lowkey getting all the npcs and units to love and be on the travellors side.. lmao putt it like this.. it makes sense.. we just dont know enough yet to make sense.. perfect example.. the time gap of lumine and aether waking up.. and who woke up first.. literally nobody understood the order till the MC finally revealed what happened. and then it made sense.. xD butt i gave some examples that could actually be the case... we fell from the sky.. no reason to assume piamon didnt.. mayb see she did.. maybe she woke up underwater just like aether woke up way later then lumine.. and the MC and Piamon were in the same place when she woke up thus they meet.. EASY.. is it true.. ? who knows.. butt it does make sense and could be one good explanation.. also maybe paimon also told the MC she came to the planet .. hence why the MC then told her their story of coming here too.. again we got zero info prior to that even and we have NOTHING AFTER THAT EVENT till 2months later when the game starts... we dont know what the hell piamon and the MC told each during that time paimon was teaching thim the langauge.. fyi she didnt travel to any regions...cause NOBODY.. not one person KNOWS HER OR HAS SEEN HER... so that means she got her knowledge some other way.. again im convince its innate memories... the issue now lies on if she is aware and not telling or doesnt know herself... there is really nothing else taht makes sense to me.. so even though im not a fan of "hatching from an egg" butt more so a meterite OR a SEED that fell which again we know the false sky and the stars are FRUITS and fruits have SEEDS and the tree is MEMORIES and stores them within itself and its fruits. . aka constallation are "stars" like Lenords story which is the FRUIT falling from the heavens.. so "How did piamon get in the water..?" she FELL IN.. literally again probably from space in her "pod " and woke up drowing..

she hovers i guess, like remember when childe breaks the floor, she falls down as well, meaning, she needs a tangible surface to hover on

if you fell into water you can't really fly duh

@@Umarweeb Paimon was trying to catch Aether, but was hit in the head by falling debris. in Venti's story quest, Paimon flew off of Venti's statue. She is able to fly in high altitude. (Even Lisa suggested that Paimon flies up to the end of the Dungeon. Paimon said she could, but still won't be able to do anything for them.) *start on the game's dungeon - intro to Lisa.

I mean, humans can even swim, yet we drown

Maybe she was unconscious. You know, like when she was hit by debris in the Golden House

yep it doesn't match with any place in current mondstadt, it is possible that it is in mondstadt but in northern mondstadt north of cider lake that is not yet released in the game, we know from npcs that mondstadt also has a seaport.

@@someoneinasia well my theory is basically this you know when you choose a sibling you get to play as well what if the sibling you didn't choose.....like lumine get abducted what if she's being controlled or is used for being a vessel for the unknown god and paimon might be a piece of the god origin but not fully

@@starflash9235 do you mean that piamon is a small seald part of the god of heavenly princples, just like all the elfs in honkai are small seald parts of all the hershers. (im having a bad spelling day today.)

@@starflash9235 The twin that you don't choose is with the abyss though... and has been with Khaneriah over 500 years...

@@Nataninko yes but didn't the twin turned into a cube by the unknown god so that god may have done something to them if the they was in khaneriah all this time what happened to the unknown God and why can't any of the other gods identify her or mention her?

I was thinking something similar but along the lines of: Time + Anemo Space + Hydro Death + Geo Life + Cryo Since Ishtaroth was mentioned and said to be a God of Time and "undying wind" I figured that this "undying wind" might have been the term that they might have used to interpret the element of oxygen, meaning the other 4 shades might preside over the 4 elements used to create the universe and are abundant in it: Oxygen, Hydrogen, Carbon, and Nitrogen.

I think of something similar, judging by the slime, the gnosis of geo archon should be the same as cryo, while electro should be the same as dendro, and hydro gnosis with pyro

There is one missing piece, the pawn. What if the traveler holds the pawn gnosis? the thing about pawns is that they are the weakest piece but also the piece that has the most potential, when a pawn reaches the other end of the chess board (end of our journey) they can be promoted to any piece they want except for the king. maybe this is the reason why we can wield all elements without the use of a vision?

@@rak4012 I think you're right- notice how there's a white twin and a black twin (the colours of their clothing before lighting up)

4 shades: Wisdom/Phanes - (Light & Dark?), Space - (Light & Dark?)/Geo, Time - Electro & Anemo, Death - Pyro & Cryo, Life - Dendro & Hydro, Anemo Queen Pyro & Electro Knights Dendro & Geo Rooks Cryo & Hydro Bishops

We are waiting for the perfect moment to eat Paimon

It occurs to me that her entire quest for a refrigerator so that her fruit would stay fresh until she wants to eat it again could be considered evidence that this is, in fact, her divine principle.

holy shit wait you have a point- what if hoyoverse keeps pushing the emergency food thing because paimon's fate is tied to the concept of emergency food: having something that's always there that you know you'll have when the time comes that you need it most

Now that I think of it, she always wants mora, but never really storms it on anything (since the only material thing she really cares about are food and drink, but she's got the Traveler to make her gourmet food at any random campfire pot and stove they come across), so it's like she's just storing away cash in an emergency fund until the moment it becomes necessary.

Betraying? :0

when did paimon betray traveler?

@@Yuunarichu During the Enkanomiya world quest and the tanuki event, there was dialogue that implied Paimon potentially betraying Traveler at some point in the main storyline. There’s also the old theory of Paimon being the unknown god to consider. During the latest archon quest, Dain said that he and the abyss sibling didn't reach the end of their journey together so there's a chance of being the same case for Traveler and Paimon. Take with a grain of salt bc I might be wrong lmao.

@@thomasliu7257 Paimon hasn't betrayed Traveler YET. I'm just saying that if Paimon were to best someone for the 8th gnosis, it might be Traveler. If that were the case in the future, Paimon would have a choice of betraying them.

@@inserthandlename7 i dont think gnosis can be given to anyone or weilded by anyone (idt venti can use geo gnosis)

GENSHIN IS CANNON IRL?

@@noharijanto genshin actually takes place in 2200

@@noharijanto the spiral abyss reset says that the cycle is eerily similar to another world, that world being ours and the cycle being our lunar cycle, bc teyvat doesn't have phases of the moon, as the moon we see is a corpse of one of the three moon goddesses So yes, I'm pretty sure it's canon that it's a parallel world to ours

@@noharijanto genshin will be real in 24 days

Yes, venti did.

Most of the users are adults. They had responsibilities. So, wouldn't have much time to dive deep into the lore. Gacha game are aimed towards busy adults anyway.

@@Jin_world_changer there is a possibility tho since it isn't mentioned anywhere and she also teleported the twin around 500 years apart

also the sustainer sent the twins to different times. she has some amount of control over time. like how paimon menu lets you change the time they both have some amount of control over time so it makes sense

@@Jin_world_changer if that's the case, then it could be that only one of them will ascend to god status and recieve gnosis. Also sustainer being space god is very likely if u think about(if paimon actually turns out to be god of time/moments) bcoz both space and time are associated almost like one cannot exist without other. So two closely associated gods with one motive makes it more exciting.

@@anaelkarthik she didn’t sends them 500 years apart, the twins woke up 500 years apart, the traveler was just sleeping I think. But istaroth could just sent them 500 years apart ? Since it’s theorise that he might be like the unknown god, a shade of the primordial one

most likely, dain meant lumine, since the MC in travail is Aether

Well to put it simply, he was talking about Lumine. You can see Aether alone near the end of that video, even though hoyo said that "both or canon" whatever.

@@darkneko972 well what I thought to but makes no sense as we play as lumine or aether , so would mean I think of the death of the sibling we are not playing , which I doubt they have in mind as an end

What if that 'her' is paimon? I might be overthinking here but I'm in the comment section of a theory video so..

What's your opinion on Thor (the marvel character)

The characters we summon for aren't the same original characters we know from the story quests. They are really clones/dream versions Paimon creates to aid the traveler on his journey. She may have something to do with the evil Albedo clone and she cloned the Sustainer's red cubes and used the power in the Jade Chamber battle. She can freeze time and go anywhere/do anything undetected and then teleport back to the traveler and unfreeze time as if nothing had happened...😶

Nani!

Now I will imagine paimon callime us anaki or onii chan

Awesome! I love hearing stuff like that :D

I thought he uses quantum.

Doesn't Dain use QUA?

um its just art of khemia which was invented/created in khaeri'ah

If you look at what’s on Dain’s arm it kinda looks like what happens with Otto.

Speaking of Susty’s arms, they are different patterns! One is the cubes and the other is like an arm with a primogem, I’m not sure how to describe it. But I do think the two sides might be different powers

They have been roaming on the beach for two months though: the Traveler never set foot in Mondstadt before then, otherwise Amber and the other knights wouldn't have not recognised them, not the statue touched by the traveler.

As far as Genshin story quests go, the Traveler never left the foot of Starsnatch Cliff before the actual game started. So he and Paimon have been on that beach for those two months.

It sounds weird, aye. But that's what happened according to Genshin.

@@kapiteingrasparkiet7574 I mean I don't think that was the case the only confirmed thing that we know is prior to we starting the game as the traveler is that we was being taught teyvat languages from paimon after being fished. I mean there's a good lot of land area in the north of the mondstadt right? I mean both of them just going back and forth in the beach haha, it's less likely to be. Traveler was having an existential crisis not a vacation. Hopefully we will get answers in the future

@@MREAGLE-6666 But there is no proof that the Traveler travelled North prior to that, in fact all evidence points otherwise: why are all the chests in the North untouched? Sundial Puzzles unsolved? Bosses never faced before? All evidence shows the Traveler has been this bored fisher sitting on a beach for two months just waiting for a player to pick up the game.

doesnt even look like mondstadt in the picture

Explains why she is the travelers "guide" perhaps she is leading him in the right direction their future self needs them to go.

I like this theory better but if that is the case would Paiman remember anything related to that? And let us say that the future self of the traveler and Paimon managed to someone erase our Paimon’s memories then how do u explain the 1 year Paimon was wandering Teyvat alone before finally getting rescued by the traveler from drowning? I say we got 1/10 more questions than we have answers for

Speaking of Tseritas don't you think some of her harbingers are sus and are trying to actives they own goal in the organisation,Tartaglia is mainly out for battles and trying to get stronger to be on par with the travler like he is our rival and is trying to master the bow it's most likely for the abyss,he also the first harbingers to make an ally with the travler,Scaramouche is the best example of this he was an puppet without an heart cause his mother Ei Raiden abandoned him left to warders the land and join the fatui since they fun to be around and then in the Inazuma chapter we last saw him in the delusion factory,he nearly kill the travler but than Yea Miko show up and give him the gnosis, than in the library warrior event Tartaglia says he searching for him as he had gone rogue.

@coffee cloud yeah, azhdaha was mostly created by morax, before he was just a fancy looking sentient rock

@@legithuman5486 in that trailer only Morax's words were true. Whatever the storyteller says is exaggerated for storytelling purposes. We learn that in Noelle's hangout quest 2. And if we look at it like that, Azhdaha was already roaming about the world but geo lifeform are mostly blind, so Morax gave him eyes and made a contract

yep and i don´t like it i am suspicious and started thinking about her as a emercency food

Really? We just blurt out our history to a flying child after fishing her out?

@Xx-raZ0r_pup-xX nope, go watch the opening scene again, the traveler literally says the line "...right up until i met you two months ago" to paimon. and its also worth noting that flash back shown of paimon getting fished up is in an entirely different location.

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@@TeyvatHistoria Yes indeed. Also, Paimon flies.

I’ve never really counted that. It’s never been clear if UI elements such as pausing and time skipping are intended lore effects.

@@TeyvatHistoria still a neat touch (or a hint), I'd say.

Paimon is also a daemon name like the other archons. That pretty much says she’s a god.