Watching this reminds of being a child and watching over my dad's shoulder; he repaired electronics for GE. He passed about 15 years ago, and had retired before computers got big. He repaired TV's, stereos, and VCR's. But his methods were very similar to yours... checking for correct readings from the multimeter, flux, solder, etc. No internet... had to order paper spec sheets. Interestingly he also predated affordable infrared cameras, so he had to use a different method: If it worked after getting blasted with Freon, that was the bad chip. But he, too, could repair the things other people couldn't. So plenty of people gave him their broken stuff, and our house had a TV and VCR in every room but the bathrooms, and a garage that looked like a TV/electronics parts store. Thanks for your work and channel. Dad would surely have been impressed with your skill.

A solution for 4090's is to use a vertical gpu mount. They are just too heavy for horizontal mounting

4090's should come with "Flying Buttress" support brackets like the ones used on old Gothic Cathedrals for horizontal mounting.

Always a pleasure to watch a master work. Thanks for fixing my 4090 a couple of weeks ago Tony. I'm so grateful for everything you did.

your skill with these repairs is really impressive.

This dude has become my favorite KZfaqr 🙌🏻

I've done plenty of soldering, but watching you reball that GPU gave me anxiety. That was nuts to watch! But so very cool.

I layed my case horizontally on the floor to avoid any sagging issues with the 4090. That thing weighs seven pounds. If you've ever held it in your hands, that thing is a beast.

A lot of the support brackets that come with that card are too flimsy in most cases. The structure doesn't have enough stiffness so that it can support the weight of the card. So the options are to either vertical mount or use custom support pillars so that the card sits on something more solid.

you're the real THE GREATEST TECHNICIAN THE EVER LIVED.

This has quickly become one of my favorite channels. Your level of skill is inspiring

Absolutely love your videos. Until I saw them I didn't think anything like this was possible. I wanted to also thank you for your post in regards fake 4090s in the US market. Nothing worse than a thief. So glad you have the skill set and the willingness to expose bad actors and help good people. Thanks so much again.

Hi Tony. Just wanted to say Thanks! for taking the time to describe the steps. I don't see myself doing any type of repair like that but I do like the science/knowledge/experience behind it.

I have a bracket built into my 4090 and also use an extendable pole support. I'm taking no chances🤣 Great video👍🏼

Wow... I did not imagine that heavy heatsinks may cause such issues! Now I am even more interested in using risers/GPU support. Also, it was very cool to see how you repair all the stuff! Thanks for the video!

Never seen somebody on KZfaq going this far and showing me this kind of stuff I dont even know what I watched but it was amazing.

Those Connector specialist jokes always get me :D

I could watch you reballing things for 12 hours straight. No breaks. Pure art.

Thanks for the tips. Some of us watch to learn how to to this for ourselves. Good info Tony, thank you Tony!

you're so skilled and absolutely amazing at this. keep up the amazing content? it's truly impressive.

Truly magical how you bring these back to life through your methodical means. Thank you for your continued contributions in giving these another chance at life. You would be my go-to if I ever encounter any issues with my GPUs or CPUs

damn this is the fastest i've ever clicked a northwestrepair video lol

Great work, thanks for including the comments in time-lapse steps.

Super impressed to think that a human can get that connection on ever little pin perfect to not short out or not work. Very impressive my friend

Only different mounting will save your GPU. I recognized this trend back in the GTX 1080 days and have only built horizontal motherboard systems since.

vertical mount gang here, hopefully we dont suffer

Amazing video! Skills and editing are top notch. Thanks for sharing your gift with us! Subbed and gonna send this to my dad, because he is a tech nerd and build a lot of electronic stuff in his live, like electronic church organs, amplifiers, speakers and such. He will love it! :)

Even my 4070 tries to sag. I've got an MSI Gaming X Trio which comes with a pretty beefy support bracket, and it still takes a bit of kajiggering to get it to sit just right without sagging. I've started building my own support brackets which can make a GPU mounting rock solid. And I put a support post right at the very end of the card where there is the most weight to sag. I can only imagine how heavy these 90 class cards are.

Vertical mount ftw. Wasn't taking a risk with my Gigabyte 4090, only to see a few months later the cracking PCB issue! Glad I went v-mount. My temps are +/- 1 degree from from horizontal mounting. It's solid too, can move my PC case with GPU in and it's firmly in place

He just did not have enough upwards pressure on the support bracket. 40 series will definitely age like bad milk due to the connectors being a risk and heavy cracked GPUs. Sad to see this is where this gen headed to and people still consume…

Your work is amazing…. Excellent job.

I appreciate the subtitle commentary on how I will master the feel and eventually become a master at these intricate repairs. I will never attempt to do any of this haha.

You are truly Genius and a Good person.. A good person always shares their knowledge with others without fear of losing their own value..

My old 4090 is in a vertical slot adapter. PC builder said it was a PNY RTX 4090 XLR8, but it looks like a Manli RTX 4090 Gallardo. It's been happy in a vertical slot, with the pins below the card, for a year+ now.

Hi, thank you very much for your videos and the board viewer files. You're incredible! Thank you, keep it up.

The biggest culprit is the "no lead" solder. And since every one is using this now, every huge and heavy card is going to have these issues. My ASRock Radeon RX 6800 XT Taichi Gaming is a very big boy, and I made sure that the anti sag bracket is able to keep it level. I actually pushed my card up a bit higher when mounting it so that when it's full weight hit the bracket it just leveled out.

I've used a support bracket from day one (yes, I know the owner of this bad one did too) and I undervolt it to 1v@2850mhz to not lose performance while lowering power usage and heat so I'm doing all I can to not kill it.

It is definitely important, if you use a support bracket, to make sure it's as horizontal as possible, so it isn't pushing up or sagging down, and then pull the bracket out, and tighten the adjustable part extra tight - I've witnessed my ZOTAC 4090 actually push down on it enough to have moved it a tiny bit over time - it probably wasn't even a millimeter, but I still check once in a while to make sure it isn't even a little off.

its truly fascinating to watch the gpu get re-balled, thanks for posting!

i've been using a gainward phantom 4090 for a few months now and only use a small cylindrical mount at the end of my card and so far no sag. thanks to its anti sag metal plate. the pcb is screwed directly into the metal plate which spans the top of the card making it an effective antibend + cooling mechanism, never exceeded 65°c so far, even when gaming for 15+ hours straight. for gainwards standards it is a step in the right direction. 10/10, would recommend. some gpu manufacturers should take hints, this should be a standard on all 4090s!

Pro's RTX 4090 - fastest graphics card presently available Cons Everything else, melting power connectors, warping PCB, snapping PCB on graphics card, damage to PCI-E slot and motherboard, huge money sink and most importantly major emotional damage.

Awesome video! looking forward to more.

you truly are the master chef at this ma dude

Nice to see a technician using Battlefield to test a card. I think it is a heavy enough game and VERY well optimized, which makes for a better parameter than other unstable games. You can also set the resolution scaling to 200% to force even more your GPU

I have a 2070 super, so half the size of this card probably, but it started sacking more and more. I decided to 3D print a little support structure / pillar thingy supporting the card on 3 separate points. Goes to the bottom of the case instead of sticking it in the side. It has been straight and supported for probably 1 to 2 years now. If I hear the stories online and even from friends, I'm very happy I did it. Def recommend if you can. I assume with the 4090 some more pillars would be useful (even around the port itself)

thanks for making such great content, a single guy with skills that big vendors should be ashamed.

Beautiful video, Tony!

I suppose it's best to vertical mount these massive heatsink cards to avoid this problem.

What do you mean? "Hiroshima Alex" is the bestestestest Capacitor/Mosfet swapper on KZfaq! There's no other better GPU repairman than you NWR!

This was very impressive to watch, I wish to be like u someday :)

more ppl need to appreciate horizontal case

The issue here is likely the use of "gpu anti-sag brackets". IMO those brackets barely do anything at all, especially since you just mount them on the same chassis slots under the GPU and then expect that thin bar to support all that weight up until the very end of it. What people need to use are GPU support stands. Those pillar-shaped stands that actually support the GPU from underneath, straight down as if it were a leg. There's a reason why some 4090 models come with included stands. Cost-cutting with brackets isn't going to do any help since those sag down too.

I bought a factory watercooled 4090 for the reason that the size of the cooling block isn’t larger than the pcb itself. Because this makes the card small and light, this allowed me to easily use the vertical mount of my case and use the crappy power cable as intended with the bend radius, without having to worry about the card cracking or melting the powerplug. I know its crazy having to build your computer around the gpu 😅

Great job Tony, glad I've been using my 4090 vertically mounted since I got it. If I ever need a GPU repaired I know who I'm calling 😁

I had a similar issue with a Asus Tuf 3070 I bought secondhand recently. Luckily it was still under warranty and I got a replacement for free.

Also want to point out, that you should keep your PC case on a sturdy table or a seperate table that you don't touch while using your PC, cuz if your table shakes or moves or even vibrates with the slightest movement of your limbs, it can possibly someday damage your gpu and the pcie slot due to the inertia while the pc case shakes, it will also slowly add extra sag to your gpu with time. I have learnt this lesson after losing two of my gpus, second one was brand new.

When I built my first computer last year I noticed the 3090ti was heavy and decided to set it vertical for that reason alone. A day later I decided to go full custom loop and jump in with both feet. I ordered 3 different supports for it and used the one that supported all the weight effectively so I wouldn't put any weight on the hard lines. My point is that you don't have to be a pro to build it right if you you know general mechanic principles. Was the support tensioned effectively? Was it placed in the right spot or was it cantilevering? Supports are less than $10, buy a few of them and use the one that works. Otherwise an issue may arise years later- If you're gonna build it yourself, build it forever. On my first build of anything, cars, bikes, computers- I always have extra parts leftover. I'm fine with that if it lasts forever.

i LOVE YOU...THANKS FOR THE SCHEMATICS....YOU HELP ME A LOT.

Instead of using a GPU support bracket I ended up 3D printing a custom solution, based on the case itself, with the GPU being installed the traditional way. Inno3D has added extra support for the PCB in the main pagkage itself, and they also made it lighter than my previous 3080 somehow, even though it is bigger. Still, I created and added a custom "column"/"pillar" on the corner opposite to the one made by the back of the case and the MoBo. I noticed that this can make a world of difference, as my GPU was already sagging just a tidbit already before that, after just half a year of usage. At least it is stable now and I prevented any bends.

I'm using the included motherboard-mounted support that came with my pny 4090. If following the instructions and setting everything up correctly isn't enough to prevent damage, I would be incredibly mad. I just purchased a post for the last unsupported corner of the card.

I think horizontal desktop PC cases should make a comeback. That would solve the graphics card sag issue!

Aw man, doing your job is a real art ❤👏

Gone are the days of horizontal mounting. These cards can only be mounted vertically.

If even support brackets are not enough,. the future for top-end GPUs is indeed bleak. I wonder what "threshold" for GPU weight-length is considered "too heavy to physically break solder joints". By the way, why don't GPUs just use pins? Wouldn't it eliminate that issue COMPLETELY, save for VRAM still breaking?

I’ve resigned to making my own support braces that screw into the case directly under the card from now on. Works well, just extra hassle. My opinion is basically ALL cards midrange and up will be needing some sort of support going forward.

Never gets old watching this work. I just repasted my CPU and GPU on my laptop, simple for you, I was so proud I did not break it. lol.

My case was so big I couldn't use the supplied support bracket, had to get one that fixes to the remaining PCIE backplate slots. Of course, that was my second 4090 because my first died after a month... was it the lack of bracket so quickly? Who knows.

I have a Hyte Y60 case so my 4090 is vertically mounted. Would vertically mounting help prevent this?

2:03 5 seconds that perfectly sums up my usual IT problem solving experiences.

watched this on the exact gpu shown in repair, will keep this in mind if my screen ever goes black

I do wonder just how wide spread this problem is? Or just how high of a percentage is the failure rate because it should not being happening as much as it seems to happen with these cards. They should be far more fool proof than what it seems. I have this exact same card. I wonder if a year from I won't be having the same problem. I have had the card for something like 6 months with no issues so far.

Mfw NWR uses light-mode in discord: 😔

This is the best thing ive seen in a long time

Amazing, a master of your craft.

The 4090s are such poorly built cards but nobody wants to listen. The burning power connectors are a problem but people watch one internet video and think it's not a problem. Now we got this problem. The weight of the honking sized cooler causing the board to flex and connections to come lose. You got to be a fool to give that much money to Nvidia.

that's lead free solder alright, total garbage.

I have 2 brackets installed on mines. One on the side and one under and it's super aligned straight.

I alway thought repair would need to be done by robot because everything is so small. Its always fascinating to watch you repair GPUs and CPUs.

The problem is that it is a PNY product. .

Why would you assume Northridge fix couldn’t perform repairs like this? When you own a business and have a month long waiting list you have to be selective in the repairs you take on. If you could repair 5 or more devices in the time it takes you to complete one like this you make more income and chip away at the waiting list. A cocky tech taking shots at other channels is lame.

Outstanding wort love the vids thankyou

Thank you so mutch for the great video. Learning something new everyday from your videos. Thank you.

I use two support brackets, one in the middle supporting the pci slot and another one in the end supporting the thin stack.

great work man

Nicely done!

Wow, amazing skills!

wow ! very impressive work !

watching repairs on the 4090s makes me think if mine does the same ill send this guy...

the best support bracket for any gpu are those cylinder ones you can screw up or down to adjust. put 1 of those on each side of a 4090 and your golden, less weight cards only need 1

I use one two poles on mine, it is heavy and big as hell compared to my old 3090. I seriously considered to lay the box horizontal but the two poles seem to be good enough. There is a serious problem with the size and weight of this generation and, considering the price they charge for the higher-end models, you would expect something more sophisticated that an ingot of metal on them.

you can use a vertical mount to avoid problems like this, but you need to make sure it is not too close to the side glass if there is any, to allow for proper airflow as not to kill your pc.

freaking hell this electronic wizardry is beyond my me

Your videos are top class!

I hack networks for a living and nothing ive done has come EVEN close to the majesty i just witnessed with that reball. Well done.

Considering the size and weight of those things these days, I'd say they now MUST be installed differently. The old traditional horizontal face down is over for those cinder blocks.

Makes me wanna buy more PC parts knowing I can send my bad parts to this guy for repars.

I've had my 4090 strix oc for a little over a 1yr. I hope I don't have any issues. I try to keep the wattage under 400 most of the time. I run it in the high 200s to 380 most of the time. I really want to put it on water but I don't want to mess it up. I also have a 6900xt 5900x all on water.... hard lines 16mm

My tuf 4090 oc runs great,it comes with a small pole to support the weight on the corner.

I am amazed of your skills

Slaps everytime, thank you