Why so many all Japan selected Karate atheletes have appeared from Shoto Federation?

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4 жыл бұрын

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Why so many all Japan selected Karate atheletes have appeared from Shoto Federation? Because they train Kata and Kumite based on their own Junro Kata.
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@mcronrn 4 жыл бұрын

Great training! Thank you for posting! Kagawa is a legend! 🙏☺️

@vietnamkarate-do1229 4 жыл бұрын

Very good

@felipearantes7759 4 жыл бұрын

Im pratice karate in the 80's good times!

@JdawgMMAblog 4 жыл бұрын

That Kankudai demo was VERY GOOD!

@elorickcollin6818 3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@amoahbright696 3 жыл бұрын

Greetings from Ghana, that was a wonderful kata performance.

@likemath. 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty cool techniques of karate. Requires quick response like solving a math problem.

@jj-wp6wc 3 жыл бұрын

I've been working on Kunkudai for two years now. This kata segment was inspiring

@techsamurai11 Жыл бұрын

Can you do it like he does? 🙂

@view1110 3 жыл бұрын

Класс! Спасибо!

@STROBdotNET 2 жыл бұрын

4:08 really nice Kanku Dai!

@sligo405 4 жыл бұрын

It likely has to do with the JKA being the first into the universities, the first to be recognized by the Japanese Ministry of Sports and Education (or whatever it was called), the largest organization, and the establishment of a real instructor training program at the Hombu that did produce, between roughly 1970 and 2000, one or two genuinely qualified instructors every year or two. In the early 1980s there were probably eight or nine world class instructors all clustered together at the Hombu, including Asai, Tanaka, Yahara, Kawawada, Osaka, and Kagawa. I know that's a while ago, but no other organization had that kind of depth chart, or that kind of reach within or without Japan.

@munirmukri2872 3 жыл бұрын

Oss like they time waits for no one truly the hell training in the 80 was Dynamic then again the evolution is inevitable advance technology and open communication has made karaté of sensai Naka and Andre and Jesse kamp more knowledge on two hand n two feet art of karate more interesting expanding our horizon .every one is hero.Oss to karate ka community one world one destiny.☯️🥋☮️🈂️🈳🌐👋❤️💛💚😅

@c602 3 жыл бұрын

Typical Shotokan response. You need to look around.

@moehoward8691 2 жыл бұрын

@@munirmukri2872 What are you talking about? Have someone translate you message into readable English please!

@user-alikamel91270 2 жыл бұрын

Good trainer trea

@Back2Africa_Overland 3 жыл бұрын

Oh how I miss that style of training I wish I was there

@felixcruz2762 3 жыл бұрын

Here in vineland nj.usa okinawan goju ryu karate is the most popular.

@mrkarate4126 4 жыл бұрын

What a class 🥋👊

@ickbar 4 жыл бұрын

Great fundamental training. Suprised to see some of the black belts looking around at others instead of straight forward.

@stevebrindle1724 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I have seen better kyu grade students than these dan grades here!

@thisisbaxter1354 4 жыл бұрын

It may be due to belts given at a time frame and kata. Rather actual skill/strength shown. Ik at my kyokushin dojo, you can be a brown belt for years if you don't have the ability to move forward.

@streetninja81 4 жыл бұрын

I like Naka Takuya Sensei's videos on the origins of Karate

@karatefella 4 жыл бұрын

*Tatsuya* Naka

@barrettokarate 3 жыл бұрын

You should checked out Jesse Enkamp's two web series on Okinawa and China.

@immigrationlawyercommentat3344 3 жыл бұрын

@@barrettokarate Jesse bought into the idea not only that Karate originated in China, but that is now an essentially a watered down version of White Crane Kung Fu. This idea is espoused primarily by the "Bubishi" people who generally ignore the Okinawan and Japanese influences, or at least don't give them much credit at all. His videos are excellent, but the historical context must be taken with a grain of salt.

@antoniospanayiotou8619 Жыл бұрын

Bassai dai ,a very difficult kata to do with power and focus!🙏

@hezekiah74 2 жыл бұрын

We (Shito-ryu) also do this Kata Kankudai - we call it Kosokundai I actually prefer our Shito-ryu Version, however I do wanna learn this Shotokan version too, its very rigid but powerful, may suit me better. The Shito-ryu version is more artistic and smooth. But then again it depends on the practitioner

@jadekayak01 4 жыл бұрын

POLITICS- thats why

@raveeraghavan3328 4 жыл бұрын

As author of the only book on WKF karate and ex-coach of 3 national teams, I can vouch for the deep corruption in karate management at the WKF and National Federation levels. A long time ago I left the politics of style karate (shitoryu since 1965). They all think they are the best.

@scherieisho5840 3 жыл бұрын

Lol i just watched a shotkan guy doin kata 2or3rd dan and it comments a dude was like oh i practice shotokan and am brown belt but get my ass handed to me buy muay thai fighter aka kickboxer

@joereidy9374 2 жыл бұрын

@@scherieisho5840 Karate is not a sport my friend. It was developed as a form of self-defense. It can be modified but it is not meant for sport. If someone pulls a knife in a grocery store who do you want to help you, a kickboxer, or someone trained to disarm that attacker? Please think about it

@theodore.katsuaki 2 жыл бұрын

it would be better if we would keep in mind that there are restrictions in the techniques, as a result you will not witness the full effectivity. Fighting isn't always using fist elbow, hands or feet, it also uses grappling either stand up or on ground so in a situation with no rules i'll still bet on karate than anything else

@savvasperisanidis 2 жыл бұрын

How true Sensei. I once read that 'practising karate and being a karate expert does not necessarily make one a better person' How true unfortunately Oss

@moehoward8691 2 жыл бұрын

@@scherieisho5840 Why do you bring up the subject of muay thai? What is your point? The subject of this video is traditional karate. Go find someone else to annoy.

@doctor_derecho 3 жыл бұрын

Ataques frontales de puño, son complicados

@johnnyryan7939 4 жыл бұрын

Everything works so well in the safety of the dojo!

@johnnyryan7939 4 жыл бұрын

@@spikefunakoshi5667 Sorry, you just miss the point completely. What I am saying is something entirely different, namely, that techniques which are apparently so effective in a safe dojo (not those that you apparently frequent) do not necessarily work on the street in a real situation. That is the myth of modern karate which is designed for the dojo rather than real life.

@hiranom20 4 жыл бұрын

@@johnnyryan7939 Then go and do boxing.

@grnhrntskato 3 жыл бұрын

@@johnnyryan7939 The point of traditional karate is not simply to run out to see if it works in "the street" as so many wanna a be's" call it. It is meant to be a lifestyle of mental preparation for living a life seeking harmony with those around us. It is not a sprint to an imaginary goal of turning into a combat ready soldier but more appropriately a good citizen with a calm and focused mind. The fighting techniques are intended to be a last resort and they take many years to become proficient. I'm now in my 36th year as a sworn police officer and traditional karate formed the base of my training which allowed me to survive many deadly force encounters. I went on to work for many years as a nationally recognized police defensive tactics instructor. Many of those needed skills did not come from Karate. Karate taught me how to learn, how to remain calm and how to recognize what works and what does not in an uncontrolled environment. Almost all traditional martial arts can provide that basic framework as long as the student put in the work over many years.

@johnnyryan7939 3 жыл бұрын

@@grnhrntskato Thank you for your kind reply. Different people may have different reasons for training karate. Mine is to provide self-defence. In Japan, there are many police, there is little violence. Other parts of the world are not so fortunate. It is a fact that most karate practitioners are unable to defend themselves effectively. Modern karate does not train them for this. It looks great in the dojo, great in the arena, but it does not work effectvely in self-defence. Which is unfortunate, because I believe that the study of kata (directed toward self-defence), provides a highly disciplined and effective training in self-defence. Your mind-set is no doubt admirable, but if karate is not focused on self-defence "in the street", i.e., in the real situation where the assailant does not stick to dojo rules, karate students will end up going to MMA or Bazilian Ju-Jitsu where the necessity for these real-life skills is recognised.

@grnhrntskato 3 жыл бұрын

@@johnnyryan7939 You are right in that sense. I am also a long time practitioner of Judo (until covid shut us down anyway) and Arnis de Mano. Judo maintained it's traditional roots until recent years where an overwhelming concern for the safety of the players during competitions has pushed the organizers to prohibit many techniques. Of course Arnis is more concerned with what works in the practical sense however it is not practical to train with a machete or balisong. I don't teach traditional karate anymore as my efforts are focused on being a student of judo and the delivery of police defensive tactics however I firmly believe traditional martial arts training produces some of the best people one will meet. I do not always get that impression from many who join the pop up MMA gyms, slap on a stack of tattoos and enhance their performance with illegal drugs. Their goals are not the same. Best Regards.

@karatefella 4 жыл бұрын

Lovely Kanku Dai at 4.10

@sarathkumara351 Жыл бұрын

Super karate.. sense

@yogi-ot7ev 2 жыл бұрын

This is a marketting world

@leonpavl4264 2 жыл бұрын

Kagava sensei Os! Anis Alsafar Im glad to you. Os.

@bajuszpal172 11 ай бұрын

My greatest respect to Master Kagawa´s achivement. But when emphasizin strength directed downward, why didn´the asked his students to hid genan-downaward? I appreciate his sideways moving in &hiko dachi while attacking with hands and maintaining centre of strength in the lower part of our body -if I understood well!. Beautiful example of "walking" stance with oi tsuki-first leg moving forward and turning outward, followed by an explosive step forward, ended by an decisive Oi -tsuki.

@pedrodiazmurilllo3551 2 жыл бұрын

🥋Kagawa Sensei, OSS!!!🥋

@kingemerald1 4 жыл бұрын

@ 4:10, my man is badd !! He should've been in the movie " Kuro-Obo " forreal.

@bourbakis 3 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know the name of the karateka at 4:20 doing Kanku Dai? TIA

@bourbakis 3 жыл бұрын

Found it. That's Koji Arimoto Sensei

@DanielFelipeFonseca 4 жыл бұрын

kagawa's tomoe-nage is pretty good!

@freedomatlast8756 4 жыл бұрын

Like you'd know. 🤣

@DanielFelipeFonseca 4 жыл бұрын

@@freedomatlast8756 I know, I just saw it, troll.

@freedomatlast8756 4 жыл бұрын

@@DanielFelipeFonseca 🙄🙄🙄

@xxximitation Жыл бұрын

懐かしの松濤連盟の空手だ...

@alexgracey 4 жыл бұрын

Black belt doesn't mean expert or master as many are alluding to, it means you are "supposed" to be good enough to start understanding your training properly. This inaccurate concept has been a sad marketing campaign that dilutes good martial arts training but also gives people something to work towards. It's like a college degree, just because you put in the work and went through it, doesn't mean that person is a straight-A student. Not everyone is doing to be a proper badass even if they come from a good school. Let's all be honest, you need some people who are there because they love it and show good spirit, not just because their technique is A+. I am still frustrated by seeing the improper technique, but good on anyone showing up to train and trying to get better. Also when looking at a more traditional school, you have to keep Karate in your mind as a larger context than just the moves. Similar to yoga, while the physical is a tremendous aspect of your training, that is not all of it. Proper respect for our man at 4:10. Look at his knuckles, straight rocks. Also the belt thing. Some belt fades and run down quicker than other belts. That guy came out of this school.

@warlord76i 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah agreed.Though as a practitioner i don`t want to look down anyone, many of those karateka don`t really deserve the black belt. And yeah that guy at 4:10 has solid bases.....but as a consolation, it is from Japan. Different mentality and hard training from young age. Also Kagawas karate is really prominent in this guy. It`s to rigid and follows the old application without considering refreshing his karate. It is a big difference how do u give the order for execution. Do u count for the technic or for your breading. If u want to see a different approach to karate , without being biased i recommend to look at Kasuyas or Andre Bertels karate....big difference. PS: most probably this guy would kick the shit out of me.......without being biased :-)

@OkurkaBinLadin 4 жыл бұрын

Then there is no reason to withold "black belt" to adult practicioners for 4+ years. Lets be honest, somewhat gifted student could get half decent technique (minus the BS) down in a single year. You might argue, that belt grade also mean, that the karateka has deeper understanding of the system, yet many dont even understand kata application.

@vincentlee7359 4 жыл бұрын

Politics. That's it really.

@nasalimbu3078 3 жыл бұрын

Judo

@sokeakechi 3 жыл бұрын

This is wonderful !! これわすばらしいはんしかがわせんせい・・・わたしわ、にほんからてまつしょとれんめいのへきなんしです・はんしもりしたです・おす

@hiranom20 4 жыл бұрын

Shinji Nagaki's footwork, though... 👀

@juny1982 3 жыл бұрын

I use to practice Shoto Kahn, and was pretty nice, I was green belt #6 and favorite kata heanidan, favorites shuto , jokogedy , enpi , what good times 20 years later still practice some times and my spouse didn't knew after she saw me practicing, LoL her she stared at me like couple of minutes and she was blushing to see me LoL woo .

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@user-ws3sl9xi7y 3 жыл бұрын

My 2 sensei trained directly under Hidetaka Nishiyama.

@grnhrntskato 3 жыл бұрын

He promoted me to Shodan in 1987. When I was introduced to him that night at the dinner as one of the students he promoted to Shodan, he said "Ah yes, an interested beginner" with a big smile on his face. Of course, he was right.

@iordankavrykov6868 3 жыл бұрын

Im from Bulgaria, and here Kyokushin is the most popular karate.

@MegaSuperfight 3 жыл бұрын

@NJ-fi8or 4 жыл бұрын

Why. Because of the deep corruption in the Karate world which has a long history. As a Yondan I rather just train with other Karateka share ideas and train hard just for ME.

@jean4j_ 3 жыл бұрын

Could you elaborate on that? I'd love to hear more about corruption in Karate. Thank you sensei

@thatkaratepodcast8122 3 жыл бұрын

You don’t win competitions of that calibre through corruption. Utter nonsense😂

@RMON2K98 Жыл бұрын

@@thatkaratepodcast8122 so it’s just a happy coincidence that Spain (owners of WKF) are top medalist together with JKF athletes. That’s one hell of a coincidence might as well give me the lottery numbers for this Friday would you be so kind mate

@thatkaratepodcast8122 Жыл бұрын

@@RMON2K98 WKF is based in France around the corner from the IOC office. 🙄

@RMON2K98 Жыл бұрын

@@thatkaratepodcast8122 the WKF is owned by The Real Federación Española de Karate🤷‍♂️that’s basic history, they bought the rights/name of the WUKO in the late 90’s.

@bozzskaggs112 3 жыл бұрын

At first I saw that these weren't typical USA McDojo black belts but then I also noticed some of these BBs had horribly weak kicks and to a lesser degree punches. They drilled with more intention than the afore mentioned McDojos but...Comments were out of my observations. I don't know the politics of the association.

@shalvenic3948 4 жыл бұрын

So shoto as in shotokan ?

@barrettokarate 3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@SixStringOverdose 3 жыл бұрын

the question in the title never gets answered, I mean yes it's a great seminar, but nothing to do with the title...

@mgoodman2302 3 жыл бұрын

it was answered the minute Kagewa showed up on camera.

@peterdumlao2781 2 жыл бұрын

Ossu!

@user-yh4zx4ky9j 3 жыл бұрын

It’s a very sad thing that all the remaining student of nakayama all forgot what had been taught to them. Over the years, they tried very hard to improve and evolve.. some. On speed, some on damage.. But sadly they had drove away from the original... there were reason what it was taught to them but they forgot the importance why it was in that form. It’s getting weaker by each every generations.... lol at nishiyama , nakayama, t aso, Kanazawa.. they are true masters...

@pustomkumar8165 3 жыл бұрын

I m surprised even higher than black belt are practising like as basic white belt.its means knowledge have no limit and basic are very important.

@c602 3 жыл бұрын

That's all they know how to do.

@getawaydreamer2724 4 жыл бұрын

You told me to use any tactic that works, never commit yourself to one style, to keep an open mind! -Frank Dux

@milesey01 Жыл бұрын

Trained with him....not sure about all the clapping!

@zommellemmoz3999 4 жыл бұрын

I'm "old school" - 1970's onwards & say this with respect to the individuals = I see a lot of black belts but no Shodan's and no resemblance of a nidan or higher. It is unfortunate.

@KuyVonBraun 4 жыл бұрын

Zommel Lemmoz it’s fun seeing all these overweight, unfit people struggle with five minutes of drills isn’t it?

@obrienthebutcher858 4 жыл бұрын

I didn’t think striking each other would be an issue... or tossing... in the USMC during training we always start at 70% but we always end up trying to get closer to 100% to see who needs to be paired up with someone else... is it different in this video because the instructor doesn’t really know the students so he doesn’t push them or expect them to really hit each other.. and it’s not really a dojo (the floor isn’t the same as the ones I’ve seen in Japan... ??? I’m just asking...??? You practitioners would know best, I just figured that all being black belts... but it is a full class so no room to actually move...

@zommellemmoz3999 4 жыл бұрын

True..but sad also 'cause somewhere in the back of their minds they think they are capable and dangerous. 😏

@zommellemmoz3999 4 жыл бұрын

@@obrienthebutcher858... issue is the lack of technique and standard = at this level technique should be automatic, the practinioner can adapt to different circumstances, smaller space, surface etc but still generate the same amount of impact = it should not be necessary to think about it and then fumble around. You can clearly see the difference between the black belts and the instructor*s assistant. 70%/100% quite correct...but it is not there becausr they lack some critical skills...which is what keeps your face intact & not the color of the belt 😏 it is essentially the same as being a soldier = married to your rifle, formation movement is there, drills are in sync, you can innovate, switch on/off...all the goodies that keep you alive. If after basic training a dude considers himself to be in the league of special forces he is dillusional. If an officer tells him that he is = it is an evil lie. Be safe in your service bro 👍

@breezebenitses397 4 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you. The form of the students blackbelts was poor. The kata was decent

@mariatrouver9365 3 жыл бұрын

start my training by my pedagogie training must be fun too.... no drugs are allowed...

@MegaSuperfight 3 жыл бұрын

@afterlifegentleman5750 2 жыл бұрын

Those who want to see the real shotokan karate, watch Andre bertel sensei

@davidgm6892 3 жыл бұрын

Ichiban Kata/Bunkai , Domo Arigato! Garibay David Gosoku-Ryu seito. Osu!!!

@user-hx2zv9it8g 4 жыл бұрын

А это что Такое ??????

@farhcawalid8224 3 жыл бұрын

And people think that black belts are ready to be sensei, it's like an elementary school trying to teach

@jean4j_ 3 жыл бұрын

Some black belts have terrible form indeed!

@jean4j_ 3 жыл бұрын

@AtR that being said it seems that worshipping black belts is more or less a western concept. Back when I was living in Taiwan, I could see kids wearing black belts all over the dojo and they weren't good. In Japan they say black belt is just the beginning, I feel like it's not the way we view black belts in the west. I literally spent 10 years getting my shodan in karate when I was younger.

@Libertariandude 4 жыл бұрын

That Kata at the five minute Mark is one of the best I've seen. And that compliment is coming from a guy who does not do Kata as I practice Krav Maga and Savate.🍻

@freedomatlast8756 4 жыл бұрын

You speak from ignorance.

@andpinto1 4 жыл бұрын

In terms of form it's excellent. But the cadence is wrong and the speed of execution is very slow. Kata is an imaginary combat, no posing. He is doing some very high quality posing.

@freedomatlast8756 4 жыл бұрын

@@andpinto1 In your unqualified opinion. The only

@KenyulChannel 4 жыл бұрын

Indonesia Karate ... karate training onlie

@gombalmukiyopujaanku 4 жыл бұрын

How about Shitoryu???

@prafullachhatria2384 2 жыл бұрын

Oss Kagawa Sensei budo karate is traditional karate.. very respectfully

@swissminireef1293 3 жыл бұрын

Is this shotokan ??

@shotokanbiker 3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@sarathkumara351 Жыл бұрын

Im like you association

@mariatrouver9365 3 жыл бұрын

world budo Australien family de jong, my techers in fighting, training exercises as well.......in Stockholm

@MegaSuperfight 3 жыл бұрын

@munirmukri2872 3 жыл бұрын

Oss sensai

@nasalimbu3078 2 жыл бұрын

Taijatus hit fixed point

@joesalemi2414 3 жыл бұрын

Because they control the kumite rules so they are the only ones that train that way.

@rusavolk 3 жыл бұрын

Are these really blackbelts?

@AliAhmad-gr6hk 3 жыл бұрын

Oss

@malikghulamjilani605 4 жыл бұрын

No detail words for training of Karate which makes it difficult to be trained

@thisisbaxter1354 4 жыл бұрын

What is this English? Lmaoo

@eroe16 4 жыл бұрын

You don’t need detail words, you just need to pay attention to body mechanics. It might take a couple times, but if you’re moving with purpose( and not just flailing like a dumbass) you will notice the shifting of weight, the footwork, the full extension, the difference in push, pull, or redirection movements, and also the hip rotations within the process of every strike.

@premierdeal Жыл бұрын

Egokoshi Ryu

@yeshuaeselmashiaj6037 3 жыл бұрын

I love karate bit its weird see many blackbelts that can t make a correcta horse stand and ver y uncordinated and lack of condición. Maybe this is a MC DOjo.

@ozkrhills9624 3 жыл бұрын

The levels here...Is o.k...but not the best

@adeolaibigbemi8612 3 жыл бұрын

Sensei Masao Kagawa, Oss!

@dnrid3608 2 жыл бұрын

Kyokushin is the best

@Chevchev2 3 жыл бұрын

In Spain, depending on the gym in which you train and the "friend" that gym of the karate federation is, they give you the belt. I have seen passed black belt exams in which the applicant did not know how to give a suki. In the end, it is a business. It is a pity.

@olderthanyoucali8512 4 жыл бұрын

I see many of these black belts aren't able to perform their techniques properly.

@ceasarlubaton 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah some look likes a whitebelt form no balance and stability . front kick and leading roundhouse many got out of balance

@ekusmayadi2364 3 жыл бұрын

Ossu..

@nasalimbu3078 3 жыл бұрын

Cold Ko bowl hodokan

@bornfightin5245 3 жыл бұрын

So many black belts students that doesn't know how to punch of kick.....is this a joke?

@gwilliams49 4 жыл бұрын

Shotokan is dumbed down Okinawan karate.

@stevelam7390 4 жыл бұрын

Real tiger.....not paper tiger.

@hamzadesidragonsarwar 3 жыл бұрын

Japanese variants aren’t bad

@MegaSuperfight 3 жыл бұрын

@DarioLopez-dn2lf 3 жыл бұрын

No me sirve. En Argentina hablamos ESPAÑOL !

@khaltonb9932 3 жыл бұрын

Shodan gedai 🤣MDR

@georgenicolini9512 4 жыл бұрын

Master Kagawa and teachers are great... but the black belt students. Half of them look very sloppy in their punches and kicks!!! No power behind them. I've seen better!

@Threttandawarrior 4 жыл бұрын

@@spikefunakoshi5667 another way - put on a white belt.

@vicakaryadi4139 4 жыл бұрын

Thats why its important for karateka to keep in shape

@bryoize 3 жыл бұрын

Not everyone can be a Kagawa or a Kanayama. Karate is about building the best version of yourself. There is a difference between professionals and amateurs, as in any other sport. If the people attending the seminars were perfect then they'd have no need to train!

@thatkaratepodcast8122 3 жыл бұрын

@@bryoize that’s the most sensible and mature comment I’ve read ! Big difference between a hobbyist and a professional. There was a big mixture there that day . I know ... I was there 😋

@david.g.3048 3 жыл бұрын

some students have great technique while a lot could be sharper, i see they all wear the black belt, at least for me, by the time you reach the black belt your techniques should be very percise and decisive and look as close to perfection as possible, of course while up until shodan you only know so many techniques and katas you can't be perfect and there're still heaps of stuff to learn, the stuff you do know should be honed and sharpened well, at least in my opinion training in a small group of people can help you learn karate better than in this kind of setting.

@thatkaratepodcast8122 3 жыл бұрын

A lot of middle aged and older karateka there. Should they stop training because they aren’t as sharp as they were at 25?

@snd7622 3 жыл бұрын

Why none of shotokan fighters has ability to full contact fight ? There is no fighters from shotokan in UFC or K1.

@thatkaratepodcast8122 3 жыл бұрын

Lyoto Machida GSP What the hell are you talking about 😂

@snd7622 3 жыл бұрын

@@thatkaratepodcast8122 just one in UFC and none in K1 ( MAchida ) :)))))))) It isn't ,,many'' LOL ANd you are LIAR. Georges St Pierre is KYOKUSHINKAI karate 3rd dan. Also Bas Rutten is kyokushinkai guy 2nd dan. In K1 legendary fighters like : Glaube Feitosa, Andy Hug, Francisco Filho, Semmy Schilt, Sam Greco. No weak shotokan at all. Again GSP is kyokushinkai guy www.gspofficial.com/bio . Too good to be shotokan. How do you feel exposed? LOL

@thatkaratepodcast8122 3 жыл бұрын

@@snd7622 Kyokushinkai is a derivative of Shotokan. Look athe kata . He trained under funikoshi

@thatkaratepodcast8122 3 жыл бұрын

@@snd7622 another keyboard warrior who watches UFC and thinks they are qualified.What have you done? Where's your videos ? None I'll bet. You're a fanboy nothing more.

@snd7622 3 жыл бұрын

@@thatkaratepodcast8122 you are internet LIAR LOL I just destroyed you with fact. GSP in Kyokushinkai Karate and all other guys. And one poor Machida...Wow...LOL I could beat most of shotokan ,,masters;; and I did it anyway before. In Englad in Shotokan club against 4th dan. You have no skills to real fight at all. Touch, shout very lod even if opponent can't feel this punch and get a point. For what??? LOL ANyway this 4th dan was completely lost when he had to take strong punches and fight a real fight. Has been destroyed ( on the ground) in less tan 45 seconds. I'm kyokushinkai 1 st dan btw . You are most soft with significant lack of power and unable to take a pain and fight. This fight-point-stop training is useless . To fight shotokan should start fight instead of this stupid shout - toch - get point because in real fight you have to take many punches and nobody will stop the fight to back on position becuase the other guy has been touched LOL There is no shotokan guys in K1 and MMa because shotokan style is useless for full contact real fight.

@sebastianmohammed9697 4 жыл бұрын

kagawa should go to okinawa.. his bunkai still lack of practical self defense.... it's embrassing..

@Morphious117 4 жыл бұрын

Bunch of real experts in here - jackasses lol

@Morphious117 4 жыл бұрын

@@spikefunakoshi5667 lol

@Morphious117 4 жыл бұрын

@@spikefunakoshi5667 it's fun reading the keyboard warrior comments

@Morphious117 4 жыл бұрын

@@spikefunakoshi5667 who exactly have I insulted ? Think about it before you respond

@gbormann71 4 жыл бұрын

@@spikefunakoshi5667 Nakayama also happened to be a kendo practioner that got the responsibility of running the club when Funakoshi became oversubscribed due to Uni clubs teaching on invitation.

@peterryan4185 3 жыл бұрын

Been doing kanku-dai many years, watching this performace I realise that I suck!

@kenkyukai100 4 жыл бұрын

Soooo many perfect experts ripping normal humans apart !!! the people on the seminar are paying to train in basics and get there backs and hips in danger of injury . Normal humans ! this is not normal for the majority ! kagawa is an amazing talented fighter and technician. Not everyone will ever get near his level . i can understand if it was just for lets say an international team training but this is not an elite athletic group . my only criticism is of the training is the throwing around on un matted areas . the rest is fine ! some of the ego related criticism from the perfect few is unwarranted. fire away !

@user-tf4cp4jg4n 7 ай бұрын

забавно смотреть как взрослые дяди с черными поясами изучают прямой удар рукой и чего-то там отрабатывают... я думаю перед смертью они смогут добраться до отработки аге-уке))))

@amranfirmansyah8459 3 жыл бұрын

Because they learn karate just to be an athlete

@attieschutte7116 4 жыл бұрын

If they would just start competing in kickboxing in addition to point karate I will start to respect them.

@freedomatlast8756 4 жыл бұрын

It's all about you, ain't it, shithead.

@attieschutte7116 4 жыл бұрын

@@freedomatlast8756 Why so angry? I did karate for many years there was no MMA back then. I remember all the excuses. The world has moved on. I want Karate to improve and move forward also and for that they need to start competing in continuous fighting.

@golputer1 10 ай бұрын

Many many many kickboxers are karatekas. Gabriel Varga, Raymond Daniels, Chicago Norris, all have shotokan blackbelts. Doh.

@attieschutte7116 10 ай бұрын

@@golputer1 yes. I did Karate my problem is the thousands upon thousands of Karate clubs that dont. I am critcal not becouse there are no talent but because there are talant and without continuous fighting they never really reach their full potential.

@elrico1364 4 жыл бұрын

Somebody please take up a collection and buy the poor guy a new belt

@elismith3402 4 жыл бұрын

That is a belt of hard work and honor

@sanseiryu 4 жыл бұрын

@@elismith3402 It's a belt with a silk or satin layer sewed on a white cotton base material that is designed to wear out almost immediately. A new belt like this will start to wear out within a month and will look like this in less than five years. The ones that look shredded and stringy? Those have certainly been abused in order to look like that. A heavy duty 100% cotton belt is dyed with color all of the way through the material. It will never look like that belt. Don't think that this somehow represents hard work. It's a shortcut. Do you wear a gi that's stained with yellow sweat and ripped with big ass holes? By this logic, that means years of hard work and honor. Most people will get a new gi when it gets worn out, so why wear a ratty looking belt with a new karate gi?

@TT-df2hy 4 жыл бұрын

@@sanseiryu you forgot to mention they rub the belts on some stone lol like how they rub their fists

@savagecoconut1735 4 жыл бұрын

T T it’s that part of sweat, as in blood sweat and tears

@elrico1364 4 жыл бұрын

@@sanseiryu Notice writing at both ends of belt.. still very black.... how'd this happen... should it not be just as faded as entire belt? ...hmm.