It's been a year since Minecraft Legends released, so I’ve made a follow-up video to this one. Check out why Minecraft Legends was abandoned here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z9KSf7aEv8iaaYU.html

“The piglins are mounting an attack at another village. There is no time to waste; the villagers need you” has the same vibe as “another settlement needs your help. Here, I’ll mark it on your map.”

I feel like Minecraft is a game you can't make a spinoff of, without that spinoff dying and being forgotten.

Old RTS games were built to occupy you with many tasks at once. While your units travel you can build, while waiting for buildings you can scout your enemy. You're always occupied. Third-person strategy games always struggle with this. If you have too much to do, the strategy portion suffers, but if the game is too strategic, the third-person component becomes pointless. The idea is that controlling a hero would make the game simpler to understand, but it's always the opposite in practice.

What made me drop the game after the first campaign was the fact that you have a limit for building. Yes, there is a building limit and you can't do nothing about it unless you remove the ones you already built. There is no way to know where you built shit around your world (other than villages and bases) and if you built a bunch of walls... Good luck! The game has not a feature that allows you to mass remove building in an area, so you have to remove walls ONE BY ONE.

I think back through the journey of me really being a Minecraft fan, and in the end, after many disappointments in Mojang I come to realize that they really found a secret formula for a game like regular Minecraft, but they then take advantage of the franchise and its style by making games that fundamentally don’t survive the long term and don’t meet the expectations set for it.

They should have focused on the multiplayer mode, it's really fun when you can communicate with your team

It actually looked so much fun and almost like a bullet-hell game in the beginning. But even without every playing the game I could see the difference within the first few minutes.

For me, it's problem came when I spent 2+ hours starting the game up, going through the tutorial, saving 3-4 villages, then spending maybe 3 hours from startup to take down that first big base with the portal. And the game was like "Good job, you took down the portal! Now here's three more factions, each with a base and 3 outposts. They also continually attack you as well! Have fun!! 😃"

Man I didn’t even know the game came out. They really dropped the ball with this

Stuff like Minecraft Legends just proves they should concentrate the team into the main Minecraft experience and take all these fun ideas there.

they have to just make the main game focus on one major city instead, it would actually make you feel like your actions have a sense of longevity

I think this is the beginning realization of a phenomenon known as "the curse of minecraft". No matter how successful the main title is the team at Mojang can't transfer that success to any of there spin off games.

I think the best fix is making you able to equip other tools such as a pickaxe to deal damage to buildings

Those first 3 outpost really feel like they should have all been combined into a single one. Could also argue making the fourth part of that merger.

I feel like every attempt at a Minecraft spinoff from Mojang has been a reminder that the original game had a perfect formula that is difficult to replicate with something like story mode or legends

They should also allow you to choose what side you're on and only allow fast travel to a place once you have discovered it.

Big shame most of the fantasy mobs seem to never make it into the main game

The thing is, the first hour kind of acts as an extended tutorial, then it fully drops you in the open world. Most players didn’t even play past this point, which is disappointing.

One of the most articulate ways to describe love for a game was you discovering they translated the game for so many voiced languages. That’s a really interesting insight, this channel is so well scripted! The language editing montage was a great touch too! ^^

It’s incredible how Mojang is a multi million dollar company with the most popular game in the world, yet they post one small update for the game like every 6 months, and keep failing to make a successful spin-off game. I never play vanilla Minecraft’s cause the game lost my interest years ago, and the only reason I still play Minecraft every once and a while is because of the amazing mods that modders make all the time.

The concept of the game is a really cool idea, but because the game is repetitive it was just very boring after only a few hours.

Mojang needs to listen to its community for once (yes i know mob votes exist, the point still stands) ,they seem so content with releasing games in the art style of Minecraft tha really have nothing to do with it. If mojang wants Minecraft to continue its success and stay relevant, they need to stop adding flashy novelty features and just start updating things that have been left behind giving players a reason to play.

So this is the game that caused Minecraft Dungeons that is an actual awesome game to completely die and being abandoned?

Really good feedback, you didn’t just complain you showed concrete examples of what could be improved and how.

This is exactly what happened with Minecraft Dungeons. The game came out there was a decent campaign but the game was buggy/ super confusing. I got soft locked by the game multiple times. But when I had finished everything in the game it felt like I had been ripped off of a game. This game will likely have the same dungeons treatment. Get update after update releasing the content that should’ve been there day one.

The warped Piglins made me go insane, and how the giant golems would gain super speed and fall off the cliffs. I think its fun but very annoying.

4:22 Why does it feel like this dude just cast a curse on me ???

I think instead of just throwing you against the Piglin bases, you try to take over just one, but it quickly overwhelms you so you have to retreat to a village. There you will be told an attack is imminent and it shows you some new defenses. (Btw I never knew the game came out already and I forgot about it)

The game is too grindy and uninteresting that I was just thinking “why am I playing this when I could just play Minecraft” If anything, relying on the Minecraft IP set the game up for failure since it set such a high bar and shares so much with it. I actually loved minecraft dungeons because at least it tried something and didn’t completely rely on the Minecraft IP to carry it to success, even though the game is a bit less played now, I think it still did so much better than legends did.

One solution that i think fixes the fact that you dont have much to do is that, when improving skills, get cure netherack asap. You will be able to build on the area that has changed afterwards and place arrow towers, traps, or just get your team organized or replenished. A few things I think they should have done straight off the bat is showcasing this at the start, having troops constantly approach the current base your raiding, and a bit more chaos. Gives a lot more to do, and can shed some light on what cant fully be seen at the start of the game

This reminded me of Marvel’s Ultimate Alliance. It required you to change characters as you moved through the game, creating different dynamics, obstacles with constant learning. This game appears to keep a consistent learning curve and not have many (if any) dynamic changes that requires interactive thought and creativity. That’s the best part of games: when a new ability/item/skill is introduced and needed for the next level making the enemies more challenging.

8:20 well, I guess we know how that worked out now

I fully completed the game the first week it came out. The main problem was people having too high expectations and the fact the game had to little and repetitive content. I do like how each horde of pigeons have different styles but the thing is the only challenge is horde of bastion/unbreakable as well one word- creepers- they are just to OP

I dropped as soon as I finished the corrupted beacon. It felt like where the game ended, a final boss if you will, and then everything after felt like those random side quests games will give you to fill out the endgame. On the other hand, I have actually really been enjoying Minecraft dungeons and the dlcs. I am still confused as to why they dropped it

Hey man, i really found the video insightful and well made. I think you are right that it has to do with playtesters and intended audience. You have to keep in mind that Minecraft has a lot of fans that are small children, or people who don't usually game. Those people often stuggle even moving with WASD instead of the arrow keys. My gf doesn't play games, so when she has played some with me for fun I have seen her use two hands just for the arrow keys to move. A friend of mine struggles to beat even a basic zombie. Keep in mind they are both in their twenties. Ofcourse, a good designer should still try to find a way for more experienced players to bypass this difficulty. But it is entirely possible that the intended audience for this game is way younger than us. I think it's useful to think of games like this as a "spanish as a second language" course. If you did not grew up with Spanish just the pronunciation it's gonna throw you off, but if you grew up with Spanish it's stupidly easy. Essay over

Amazing work! I was hooked from the very beginning to the end. Excellent execution and intriguing content

In my opinion, there's a very simple fix to the combat and that's just... giving some individual enemy units almost always unchanging set targets. And by individual units, I mean a couple random piglins deciding to attack the player instead of meatshielding their structures, attacking opposing structures or attacking opposing minions; or any one of the other three. That would already give the player a lot more action in the tutorial section and it would make sense that the enemy faction too is capable of strategy and keeping their troops in order, as well as give a unit a mission to complete, even if the piglins are brutes they still managed to get here so there must be some logic to them. Pushing the army vs army feel would make the world that much more alive.

Sounds like the result of group think. Game developers usually play their own games to see if it will be fun for other people to enjoy, I find it hard to believe that from what I've seen that this game was fun to those game developers.

If you've ever played total war Atilla then you'd know that the opening battle tells you everything about the battles. as the Visigoths you defeat the Ostrogoths, then you're like ok that was cool. But then out of nowhere the Huns appear attacking your settlement, then you have to quickly fortify your settlement with the troops you already have there. Then you have to rush the force you just used to fight the Ostrogoths back to your settlement before it falls to the Huns. And that's how a introduction should be.

It’s really telling when one dude can make a game that he sold for millions and it has made billions by now. Then as soon as the corporation tries to make that ip into a game they create, it bombs.

I was actually looking forward to this game and I even got it on release day. I was playing with a friend when we first started the game and if you think there's not much to do alone, there's even less when you have another person with you. When you're playing alone, you can have about 20 creatures and when you're with a friend, the two of you can have 20. When we were playing, one of us had nothing to do because all the creatures were following one person. This also made me realise that I haven't played the game ever since and I just wish it was more fun..

They really couldve done well with Minecraft Legends. A good few good updates to multiplayer could change the game around completely P.s - they should add a territories mode, where holding certain points will get you emeralds and lapis? Instead of having to kill piglins. That and a horde mode, where the players have to protect their bases from a increasingly harder waves of piglins. P.s.s - that and different types of procdedural maps. Like for example an island map. With ocean warfare.

I really enjoyed the game but that’s probably because I enjoy rts games and I’m pretty patient. The biggest issues I had was the spores piglins main bases was kinda annoying and I built a fortress on a plateau mountain but the terrain changed randomly turning all my buildings invisible and causing some to float.

8:22 Yeahhhhhhhhhhh, about that

This is a well written and reasonable review, awesome work, you clearly gave the game a go, even after the pacing issues, see if you can play some multiplayer pvp with friends, I've had lots of fun with that.

The places that where higher as other bastions where extremely hard to destroy + Your army kept falling down and the poor ones couldn't get up anymore to help you and stayed there.

This is why iteration and blind testing is so important in game development...

It can still be redeemed. Just one big rebalance and features. I like how the war progresses but you need the ability to control armya from far away just like the enemy

Man who would’ve thought a Minecraft game that didn’t focus on the sandbox would fail? Man its like Mojang and Microsoft should just focus on Minecraft itself, instead of making spin offs.

I played the campaign on the hardest difficulty. After a lot of hours, you can apply a bit of strategy but there really isn't much depth. Some of the harder strongholds boil down to placing redstone launchers just outside the walls and hitting the portal from the outside. If you don't have enough redstone to build a bunch, it can take nearly 30-40 minutes to finally destroy the portal without any threat or risk. This game needed a rework before launch but I'm still happy with what we got. It just could've been a lot better. I think the same way about minecraft dungeons as well.

I have it downloaded on my switch.... I want to finish the game. I find it a fun experience as somone who can't play real time strategies with too many things in the back of my mind, as that causes me to have seizures. (Not all forms of epilepsy are triggered exclusively by flashing lights, although it is the most common. I can play games just fine. Dehydration is another cause for me. The more you know.) Anyway, I want to finish the game. I like it quite a bit, reminds me mechanically of pikmin a lot, which i'm fond of. However, for some reason my downloaded switch version is super buggy, glitchy, and crashes more than any game in my library. It is rare for it not to crash if I'm doing anything other than defending villages or exploring the overworld, and exploring the overworld causes it to glitch frequently, causing me to lose troops and often take damage for literally no reason. Playing online crashes frequently too, same with lost legends. Playing the game is basically village defense simulator, or nothing. I've tried every single way I could find to fix it, so I'm just ghosting the game and waiting for fixes for a game pretty shallow in content outside of multi-player (which looks super fun.)

That bit about leaving an impression is the most definite truth in Forza Horizon 5. I was almost shedding tears with that intro. You're falling out of planes, then you get into a supercar, then you teleport to an off-road race, and the music is so on point. Absolute masterpiece of an intro.

Minecraft dev people are always positive......it's like they are fake. Everything they endup making, they have to fake positiveness about it.

after clearing campaign, I was going to try multiplayer, and am simply left with overwhelming disappointment when I could not even start ONE match without people leaving the lobby after waiting nearly an hour. Online multiplayer mode died faster than an average player could clear campaign. And the challenge mode's impossible to clear without friends to help you.

“Alexa, set a timer for one hour and forty five minutes” had me dying

you are criminally underrated holy shit, subscribed to you as soon as i saw the level of professionalism and effort put into this video. the transitions and little animations were a super nice touch

They should add a boss on every outpost so you focus on fighting that as the main character and your troops could still be "clash of clansing" the buildings.

I think they should have taken a bit of a brutal legend approch to action rts part of minecraft legends or even Spellforce which combines rpg with rts. Where they use the narrators or even units as characters as addtional set pieces to teach you. You can unlock addtional skills to aid your command or even fight better yourself. You gotta to make x progress to get to next zone of map and even more units, buildings, among other skills. Or even have two campaigns where you take role of piglin leader in second you gotta take over vs save however the piglins play diffrent so it teaches you.

I started dying when he zoomed in on the little golem speaking Japanese 😂

To be fair they said minecraft dungeons was bad at first but it's story became amazing through dlcs

i played mainly versus, always had alot of fun, most annoying thing was deff communication, like people not building certain things or when u go back to make it they destroy it for another thing, and theres just no way to tell them other then spam pinging the building that needs to be built but i think a majority of the pacing problems dont exist in versus because usually when ur waiting around ur against another person on the other team for control of that area. wish theyd expand more on the versus and maybe get the player base back up

me and my friend circumvented the boring gameplay of taking forts and just sitting there by making those tnt cannons and bombarding the forts, we also used the netherrack converting thing mid raid to place troop spawners and walls right up in the piglins faces We stopped playing because the final fort glitched out on us and wouldn't spawn.

Foresight is basically like Preston Garvey in Fallout 4 "another settlement needs your help"

they should just add in a possession feature ala dungeonkeeper to let you directly control one of your units

What I liked in this game is when me and my friend played the lost Legends especially the "pile of portal" it was challenging and fun to keep creating new defences

i think they should have two piglin outposts since one might seem a bit short for a "tutorial" slash starting section. Especially since there would be only one village.

The fact Mojang can't make the main game good should be a clear indicator they shouldn't make another spinoff

Man I remember trying this out on gamepass when it came out. I played the campaign and enjoying it but the multiplayer killed it for me. I wanted my friend to join me in an online 3v3 match but it wouldn't let me invite him so we can't play against others as a team. (This might be changed now) but that completely made me drop the game

This game is just a physical representation of "Another settlement needs your help"

i remember playing the game when it first came out, i got it for free via xbox gamepass it was kinda fun, but i always felt there was something missing due to the amount of work some stuff took, like i would raid an outpost with a full, expertly crafted army, and then only wipe out 25% of a nether portal's HP i finally dropped the game when it came to the first boss piglin, i think it was the horse one(?) i found out where he was going to attack, i covered every inch of ground with arrow towers and stone upgraders + building healers and then? he spawned in, ran through the double-layered wall, took out most of the 75+ arrow towers just by contact damage, killed me instantly, and after around 3 minutes he took a whopping 3% of damage i never figured out if that damage carried over between attacks, but i ended up quitting right there on the spot, because even if it was persistant, it shouldve taken at least 25% damage to make it worthwhile Edit: oh, and i'm not even going to mention the cliche "big character voiced by kid, small character voiced by adult", it was awful

It's a shame, was going to pick this up when they flushed out the PVP mode more because it looked really interesting

crazy to see a game at this budget fail to deliver on a basic gameplay premise

It's like a drawing, where the developers already have amazing lineart but just tapped the fill bucket a few times for color.

Playing Minecraft Legends recently for the first time, the idea of the gameplay I got was Pikmin inspired, which was interesting. It's not the most terrible Minecraft spin-off but it doesn't feel as better to Minecraft Dungeons in comparison. Like the idea of the instrument and the building idea for the villages or even crafting a bridge as it not far off from Java or Bedrock Minecraft. There is something fun in it but it feels like it's missing something to keep it fun and engaging, which does feel lackluster in content. It's not as unquie as Pikmin as it has an objective with a great reason, to get off the mysterious planet, along with charming dialogue to read from Olimar at end of each day. As well with limit amount to time to explore each day, with ways to defeat the creatures which could be challenging. I definitely love the areas in that game as it's appealing to explore. Definitely love what the soundtrack describes each area too. Nintendo knew what Pikmin wanted to be for the GameCube. Overlord 1 and Little King's Story are also great inspiration of what they wanted to be, which works well what they'd offer. Do want to like Minecraft Legends more as well, as I like the art style and didn't mind the characters much, but it does lack the charm of its own to have that intriguing gameplay. Hope it does get better content in the future.

My main problem. Was that a village was constantly being attacked. There was no cooldown period. I either let a village die and get resources in order to build up defenses. Or, fail to defend the village since I have no resources.(I think I was on the hardest difficulty.) And this mainly happened after the first piglin base. And so I was never really progressing, so I got sick of it.

Whoah, Minecraft things aside, this is a REALLY well-made video for someone who has 2k subscribers. Good job man, keep it up, I'm going watch your other videos now.

Thx for making this vid ❤️, it’s kinda sad what happened to Minecraft Legends ngl

“The first one is interesting because it’s the first one” Bombastic commentary.

Should've had the defense and attack in a versus style Would've been cool for like a capture the flag with mini armies and fighting others

Idk i liked it. The only issue i can see with the campaign is that there isnt a ton of strategy in weighing the large-scale desicions since only one thing happens a night, though admittedly ive only played the default selected difficulty

This game honestly seems really fun, making siege catapults and stuff, I hope they keep updating the game instead of dropping it

why dont the piglins zombify? if they are in overworld

game was fun when i played it with a friend, although we finished it in 2 ingame days after learning about redstone cannon thingy. i was managing them + big golems and my friend was going in with an army and we would continue playing if it had better replayability. if u have game pass and some friends u should try it on a hard difficulty

I always keep forgetting this game exists

Its just reminds me that minecraft is such a big game its still standing up and making people play itself for years after several spinoffs

The cutscenes with the Piglins are easily the best part of this game

itd be nice to have the blocks from the bedrock event, like grass stone n that, it would be nice to build with and cool

the best way to describe this game is an annoying pikmin-styled attack and defend game with a minecraft theme. if it had better pacing and managed to make special moments pop more than the constant negatives, then it'd be a fun game. pikmin literally already solved this issue of informing the player of new mechanics, telling them whenever something like a new challenge or hazard affects their pikmin. they could just show one of the golems getting shot at by arrow towers, or show the nether spreaders and just be like "wow! that sure is a thing doing its thing! watch out!"

It be nice if they added a dlc where the hero goes into the nether to finish this war once and for all and instead of defending structures you have to push through the nether to raid the defenses and the main base

4:21 I was expecting the bingchilling to be dropped any moment there💀

Yeah I definitely agree it's weird how little we do an actual combat. Like in the world of Minecraft were able to build destroy create but here we can do very little damage against the units only on the field of battle and take a decent chunk of damage from anything attacking us with very little ability to affect bosses. But personally I don't think that's the biggest problem. I think the biggest problem is the spore piglin. They compound all of the negative aspects into one fight. You take a lot of damage they actually do a lot of damage and poison you on top so you're hitting a couple and running away. Most of their units are big beefy tanks that you can do very little against. All of their structures are built in a way you have to build to them but in a very specific way because you can only build a maximum size bridge that 98% of the time is just out of reach of the next platform so you have to find a different one. And when you do find a different one they just destroy it almost instantly if your units don't fall off and you have to go around them back up. You know if all of their knockback attacks don't throw you off. Not only that most of them have poison so you're taking more damage no matter what most of them are fairly tanky to the point even the bastion blush. They have more AOE than anyone else and unlike the others there's no real counter. Bastion is countered with skeletons and creepers. The horde is a countered by zombies and arrow golems. The spore doesn't have a counter. Skeletons need to get close to be able to hit them which means they can be hit. The terrain is so anti player you lose more than half of your army over the edge just trying to find a way up and even if you can manage to set up a forward encampment to summon your troops and keep attacking forward they have literally all of the choke points Plus extra poison damage and more normal damage which means they outpace your healing and will inevitably beat you back. Another thing that could help out is it takes your defenses into account when something is being attacked and you're not there. Like I find it really hard to believe that if I'm sitting there doing absolutely nothing and my army doing absolutely nothing and my towers are more than capable of handling the entire invasion all on its own it is very difficult to believe that mean not being there means somehow my fully autonomous defenses lost that match.

And to think this could be all avoided if they'd literally made it a Mount&Blade reskin with Minecraft assets.

wish you could play campaign in local multiplayer mode, sounds like a relaxing game

Im just glad that the pikmin gameplay style is getting attention. Even if this didnt go well who knows whats next for it?

They should update the game to allow yourself to attack buildings with you're army and hit weak points to make the enemy structures weaker.

Im really having a hard time placing ramps on after the 1st piglin base (switch) it keeps saying Limit Too High, Overlapping Mobs and more annoying stuff.

Maybe it could have started with something like MC living in a decently big village (showcasing the future) before giant armies of nether monsters destroying it in moments, making the only option to run away with the promise to avenge the villagers or something (purpose for waging a damn war against the nether), could even have a big sequence of running away from chasing monsters into some sort of secret escape path over the ocean (into the gameplay area) for example It's avery crude example of an intro sequence sure, but seriously, it seems strange how they decided to actually start it, having an entire "walking between villages" in the first minutes is pretty bad design imo

"You sit there watching your army destroy structures one by one" Omg literally my lord of the rings: battle for middle earth playthrough

Legends looks like it would be nice as a mod or modpack for regular minecraft