I’m watching this live, how did you get the timestamps up already 🤨

Crystal D “live” on KZfaq doesn’t actually mean “live” :P he had the conversation recorded and published it to the platform a week ago, but KZfaq was told not to show it until this date at this time. That’s also how he was able to add the clip at the beginning where he said he will accuse Madrid of being overly prickly! Haha

Hi Crystal D, this must have been pre-recorded as The Patrick Madrid Show is playing now on Relevant Radio and it's live. If you like Patrick Madrid I highly recommend Relevant Radio. 😊

Either way it was live or pre recorded, thanks Matt for this!! It is surly something you didn’t have to do and is greatly appreciated 👍👍

Jesus my Salvation Thanks for your opinion and the traffic on Matt’s page!

May God bless you for being so loving and open to what other denominations have to say about Christian teachings. I’ve had no luck discussing this matter with my Protestant friends. One of them even told me right on that Catholicism is a cult. May God have mercy on us and may the Holy Spirit teach us that God loves us all with all of our differences. I’ve heard conversion stories where God leads some to the Protestant church and some to Catholic or Orthodox Churches. We are the ones that don’t tolerate each other bc there is no love and humility in our hearts. God bless you.

Can I ask where you are on this today, friend?

MESSAGES GIVEN BY OUR LORD 1880 - 1883 I wish the first Friday after the feast of My Sacred Heart to be set apart as a festive day in honour of My Sacred Head as the Seat of Divine Wisdom, and that public adoration be offered to Me for all the outrages and sins which are continually being committed against Me.” “It should be dedicated as a festive day in its honour, and special reparation and atonement be then offered to Him. June 2, 1880 The Sacred Head was in a special manner the dwelling place of the Holy Ghost. Our Lord wished the great mystery of the Incarnation to be made very clear (or taught very carefully) to the children. Whitsuntide 1881 Our Lord impressed upon her - His Soul is not known, His Soul is not loved, and tells me not, by actual words. Juni 1883 Our Blessed Lord wishes His Sacred Head to receive special adoration. Aug. 17, 1882 Those who shall try by words or means to hinder or reject it, shall be as glass that is cast down, or as an egg that is thrown to the wall, that is that they shall be shattered and become as naught, and shall be dried up and wither as grass on the housetop. April 9, 1880 Even the devotion to the Sacred Heart is incomplete without this devotion to His Sacred Head. June 2, 1880 He would wish now to be crowned and acknowledged as the Wisdom of the Father, the true King of Kings. Juni 15, 1880 This morning at holy Mass when the Sacred Host was raised at the elevation, I saw as it were the whole court of heaven in prostrate adoration. May 27, 1880 Our dear Blessed Lord wishes His Sacred Head to be honoured as the “Shrine of the Powers of His Holy Soul’. Nov. 11, 1880 Around His Sacred Head shone a light of indescribable brilliancy and beauty: as it were a sun in which sparkled 12 magnificent crystal stones reflecting all the colours of the rainbow. May 23, 1880 “It will be the great devotion of the church in time to come. July 16, 1881 The crucifix is the Book of books and to me the Tree of Life and contains never ending volumes. June, 1880 It makes me tremble with terror at the dread punishments He has in store for all who shall hinder, or try to hinder the furtherance of this heavenly devotion, for their jaws He says shall be locked as were those of the lions in the den into which Daniel was cast, they shall be shattered and become as naught. May 9, 1880 The Sacred Head is the Shrine of the Powers of the Soul. The Head is also the Centre of all the senses of the body, and that this devotion is the completion, not only of the devotion of the Sacred Heart, but the crowning and perfection of all devotions; and he showed me how the adorable Trinity at His baptism revealed to the world this special devotion for His Sacred Humanity is the tabernacle of the thrice Holy Trinity; and that St. John has specially spoken of this devotion for the Most High revealed to him that he should be thus worshipped before the end of the world. April 9, 1880 PROMISES Anyone who shall assist in furthering this Devotion shall be blessed a 1,000 fold; but woe to him that shall reject or go against My Wish in this respect, for they shall be scattered in My Wrath and shall know their place no more. June 2, 1880 Our Lord would crown and clothe with a peculiar glory all those who further this devotion to the Sacred Head. He would clothe with glory before angels and men in the courts of heaven those who clothed Him in glory on earth and would crown them in everlasting bliss. Sept. 10, 1880 We render a great homage to the ever Blessed Trinity by adoring our dear blessed Lord’s Sacred Head as the ‘Seat of Divine Wisdom.’ Annunciation 1881 Our Lord would bless all who practice or further this devotion in any way. July 16, 1881 Untold blessings are promised to those who shall try to further our Lord’s wishes in spreading the devotion. June 2, 1880 The more we practice devotion to the Sacred Head the more we must see of the working of the Holy Spirit of God in the human soul, and the better we will know and Love the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. June 2, 1880 The devotion and love to His Sacred Heart should be bestowed a hundred fold upon those who practice devotion to the Seat of Divine Wisdom. May, 1883 Our blessed Lord said that all that He had promised to those who should worthily love and honour His Sacred Head should be poured out upon those who honoured it themselves or were the means of others doing so. Oh Sacred Head, may Thy Wisdom ever guide us, and the Sacred Tongue ever bless us and plead for Mercy and Pardon, and may we never hear the curse pronounced against those who shall hinder or despise this devotion. June 2, 1880 To them that honour Me, I will give of My Might and I will be their God and they shall be My children and I will place My Sign upon their foreheads and My Seal upon their lips. June 2, 1880 He gave me to understand that this Wisdom and Light was the seal that marked the number of His elect and they shall see His Face and His Name shall be on their foreheads. May 23, 1880 Our Lord gave her to understand that St. John referred to His Sacred Head of the Seat of Divine Wisdom in the last two Chapters of Revelations and with this mark were sealed the numbers of His elect. May 23, 1880 Our Lord shows her the great blessings and graces he has in store for all who shall further His Divine Will to this end. May 9, 1880 Imprimatur, Edm. Can. Surmont, VG, England, September 2, 1926 holywounds.net/head

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@enforcer4383 Yep, and I eventually had the truth lead me back to the Catholic Church. I'm in RCIA and hopefully will be confirmed on Easter Sunday!

Good for you, I'm a Protestant still searching. Feels like what it comes down to is "what is the Church that Jesus founded?" It seems like this Church has some God-given authority that we should respect. It could be the Catholic Church, or the body of believing Christians in each denominations, like Protestants claim, but in the latter, the authority-thing doesn't kinda make sense. The search continues for me.

God bless all here you lovely people..... it's so nice to read yr comments:

golden egg... in reply at 30 minutes, Patrick explains Tradition, maybe if you have time..... listen again sweetheart....

I feel you. I recently went back to the Catholic Church and my wife and kids are Catholic now too.

Why?

Why? Dude has lots of fancy terms but essentially it comes down to listening to what the magesterium and the pope have to say. As a result lots of hog-wash gets baptized as doctrine. Infant baptism is a great example. It was instituted because of the erroneous doctrine of purgatory/eternal conscious hell and literalism regarding the water baptism of everyone in every circumstance (while completely ignoring the thief on the cross). So now “good” Catholics want to sprinkle an unselfish aware infant in case it dies and goes to hell or purgatory. Just cause someone sounds smart and uses big fancy Latin words doesn’t mean they are correct.

@bethemonsterorbedevoured7795 I read the apostalic fathers on what the early church (pre year 200) believed on baptism and the eucharist. I recommend you read St. Ignatius of Antioch, St. Polycarp of Smyrna, St. Iranaeus, and St. Justin Martyr. They were taught by the apostles and the Catholic church believes what these 1st century Christians believed.

@vancouver8129 I think you should read the apostalic fathers (1st century Christians) and see that they are unanimous on baptism as salvivic. The Catholic Catechism- 1257 - states that God has bound salvation to the sacrament of baptism, but He Himself is not bound by his sacraments. The thief on the cross is not able to be baptized but God makes an exception in a very exceptional case. Everyone however is still bound by faith and baptismal sacrament as salvivic.

Wow great explanation! Love it! Cheers YBIC

it does not mean it is not a work of truth. and by the way, interpretations of roman catholic traditions not only provide different interpretations, but is also a secondary source.

@@ACF1901 we need to remember that the books kf the Newst Testament were are the inspired Word of God. Filled with lessons for how we must act our faith, live our lives, and treat each other than we can directly apply today. But we must also remember to look at them from the perspective of a 1st century Jewish Christian/Gentike Christian, what they knew about the Old Testament, who was being addresses, by whom, when, and why.

So the bible in the book of Hebrews say : that the priesthood is obsolete, abolished! But the tradition of the Catholic roman church day that priesthood is still current.so should i follow SCRIPTURE or tradition? Jesus followed scripture he rebuke tradition of man . So what should we follow Christ or tradition of church?

​@@kronos01ful The answer is both, because they don’t actually contradict each other and I’m gonna lay out why. Check this out, cuz this is awesome: That verse doesn’t say that priesthood altogether is obsolete. On the contrary, the wider scope of Hebrews illustrates that Jesus’ everlasting priesthood, with Him as the High Priest in Heaven, is what makes the Priesthood of the OLD COVENANT obsolete. Check this out, cuz this is awesome: Hebrews 8:13, “When he speaks of a “new” covenant, he declares the first one obsolete. And what has become obsolete and has grown old is close to disappearing.” The Old Covenant is passing away, along with the priesthood of the Old Covenant. but not priesthood altogether. Since the it was deficient in accomplishing what it signified, it had to be replaced: Hebrews 7:12 “When there is a change of priesthood, there is necessarily a change of law as well.” Jesus’s everlasting priesthood, makes the old priesthood obsolete, and the covenant is changed with it. The superiority of the new covenant was seen in the permanence of its priesthood, mentioned later in Ch. 7 Hebrews 7:22-24 “to that same degree has Jesus [also] become the guarantee of an [even] better covenant. Those priests were many because they were prevented by death from remaining in office, but he, because he remains forever, has a priesthood that does not pass away. An [even] better covenant is better than the Mosaic covenant because it will be eternal, like the priesthood of Jesus upon which it is based. And it’s superiority is based on better promises, namely, in the immediacy of the people’s knowledge of God and in the forgiveness of sin. Take that over to Luke 10:1-12, 17-20, where Jesus appointed 70 (or 72 based on the translation and ancient manuscript) of his followers on a mission, in pairs, paralleled with the Mission of the Twelve in Luke Ch. 9. What’s interesting about the number of 70/72 Disciples that He sends out is that is the same number of Priestly elders that that Moses appoints during Exodus 24: “Moses then went up with Aaron, Nadab, Abihu, and seventy elders of Israel,” then in Numbers 11:16-30 “Then the LORD said to Moses: Assemble for me seventy of the elders of Israel,” Moses appoints the 70 elders to help him administrate and minister to the massive amount of people in the Exodus. When He does, the Spirit comes down on the elders and they are annointed to lead the people of Israel. Two other mean outside the camp also received the Spirit (this is where the ambiguity comes whether there were 70 or 72 Elders). This is a Priestly Hierarchy of appointed leaders under Moses along with the Twelve leaders of the Twelve Tribes of Israel (same as the 12 Apostles and 70/72 Disciples Jesus appoints to go out on missions. Where else is the number 70/72 significant? Genesis 11 in the Table of Nations- a catalog of where all the different peoples of the world came from. When you count up all the names of the nations you get 70, or 72 depending on the translation- 12 tribes of Israel and 70/72 Gentile Nations. How many members of the Sanhedrin were there: 70/72 + 1 High Priest. So what does Jesus intend for the 12 Apostles and 70/72 Disciples when he sends them out on their missions: His NEW Priesthood, the new Priestly Hierarchy of His Church, set up to change and make the old priesthood obsolete, with Jesus as the New High Priest, just as the letter to the Hebrews illustrates. Interesting that it is illustrated their letter, as they would know and recognize the structure of the Priestly Hierarchy so well. This is so, because we know that the Old Testament foreshadow the New, and New Fullfills the old, with multitudes of parallels: In this case the parallel of the Mosaic Priestly Hierarchy to Jesus’ priestly Heirarchy is: Moses/Jesus - The 1: Aaron/Peter - The 3: Aaron, Nahab, Abihu/ Peter, James, John - The 12: Pillars of the Tribes/ Apostles - The 70/72 - Priestly Elders/Disciples Sent Out This is no coincidence. Jesus didn’t abolish the Priesthood, He set up a new one to replace the old with the New Covenant replacing the Old. Sorry for the long answer, but it’s all just too awesome to not share!

Scripture is an artifact of revelation. Jesus revealed the New Covenant to his disciples. Paul confirmed and solidified this revelation. All revelation was recorded down on paper. Thus, SOLA SCRIPTURA. There is absolutely no evidence that there were oral traditions from the first century possessing doctrines not found in written scripture. It's all a fiction. Tradition for the Catholic is "we sorta can make stuff up as we go along as the fog of time somehow produces new doctrines out of thin air".

YEAH I just read it again. It doesn't make sense without further explanation. Of course, my other paragraphs should have clarified.

How i wish ?

@Rod Manderson throw your hat in the ring and call alpha and omega ministry for a healthy debate and prove your point? I would love to hear or watch this event? Many have utterly failed against James White. Would live to watch!

I come from a family of 12.We were all born at home. The joy of a big family is immense.God is Great. My Mother never had any serious ill health. Was never once admitted to hospital. She died in her old age at 83 years old. God's blessings kept us going. Thank you Lord.

@Prasanth Thomas lol... cant get funnier than this? Is this why they brought Mr Madrid back to glorify his great victory? Lol Anyhow, why would you have 5 or 6 apologist on the same topic of sola scriptura against Dr White??? Because they won their case in the debate? Sorry but he has put on a clinic on different topics against catholics to establish the Truth of the Bible. Hes put out several challenges on his show but no takers!

@@ttshiroma He wont debate people who actually know what they are talking about anymore. Check out Sam Shamoun's channel, He has asked him to debate he won't do it anymore. He corrupts what the early fathers have said and basically his argument's boil down to but the bible doesn't say that. It doesn't use the word Priest ha! there for Catholicism is false lol Yeah I'm willing to listen to peoples viewpoints that are different from my own so I can understand where they are coming from but seriously he blatantly lies. You should read his sisters story of conversion from their faith to Catholicism he still berates and belittles her to this day her name is Patty Bonds. Anyway God Bless you and may you be lead to the fullness of truth :)

Sola Scriptura perché non si può annunciare un Vangelo diverso da quello già annunciato dagli apostoli. Galati 1:8 "quand'anche NOI o un angelo del cielo vi annunciasse il vangelo deve essere quello che avete ricevuto, sia anatema"

@enforcer4383Sola Scriptura because: Galati 1:8 " But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."

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It's so awesome to hear brothers and sisters of other denominations listening to Catholic reasoning with real curiosity. Thanks for sharing

It holds plenty of water. The Bible tells you what the Bible is: the Hebrew Scriptures and the teachings of the Apostles. Nothing else. Luke 1:1-4, Romans 1:5-6, Luke 10:14-15, Ephesians 3:7-10, Ephesians 4:11-16, 1 Corinthians 11:2. The Letters tell us that Scriptures complete the man of God. 2 Tim 3: 14-17. Madrid has a long track record of dishonesty.

Keep praying brother the Holy Spirit will guide you, the heart of being Catholic is a deeper union with Jesus. More practically speaking try and find a Traditional Latin Mass to attend and prayerfully observe what is going on. Next find a Catholic priest who is loyal to the teachings of Christ and His Church (vital or you could get bad advice) and explain to him your situation and ask him for guidance. Often priests from the FSSP are good people to ask spiritual advice from. Maybe that helps, maybe that doesn’t...feel free to ask any questions if need be! Blessings in Jesus.

try reading your Bible, meditating on the word and praying to God through Jesus, ask for understanding, He will open your eyes and lead you.

Alex Martinez yes amen to that, doing just that led me to the Catholic Church.

Read Matthew 15:1-9 and Mark 7:1-13

I came from Protestantism, and also found problems with its positions I could not reconcile. But I now believe the Orthodox Church, not the Catholic Church or the Protestant churches (although I love my Catholic and Protestant brothers and sisters), is the one true Church, in which the Way is most fully expressed. Please consider exploring it. I believe it is the same Church that was founded by the Apostles, and it has remained substantively unchanged in over two thousand years. My catechism has been one of the most enriching experiences of my life. You can approach as an enquirer, and would be invited to attend Divine Liturgy and to meet a priest regularly (one hour a week for over a year, in my case) to discuss your questions, and discuss materials you will be given to read. I attend an Orthodox Church of America (OCA) church but there are also ethnic Orthodox churches such as Greek, Russian or Ethiopian. The Catholic and Orthodox Churches were united for the first one thousand years of history, and it’s a tragedy that we diverged. We Orthodox pray daily for the rift to be healed, and it will be, one day.

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If papacy is true, we should all be Catholic. Check out book Pope Peter and The Early Church Was Catholic by Heschmeyer. God bless you!!!

How do you intellectually justify claiming that Mary was a lifelong virgin born to another virgin, that the multiple references to Jesus' siblings all mean cousins, that Mary taken up into Heaven without dying, and that Mary now hears prayers and passes them on to Jesus. How is all this true without there being even one single word justifying it? It seems odd to me that someone would conclude that sola scriptura isn't supported by the Bible enough, but believe things about Mary that aren't even hinted at anywhere. Doctrine you don't want to believe must be incontrovertibly proven beyond question in unambiguous language, while doctrine you like doesn't even have to be vaguely referenced in even an oblique way? That's the Catholic stance. Sola scriptura is hopelessly mired in circular logic, but saying the leader of the Catholic church is infallible because the Catholic church declared him infallible somehow isn't circular logic at all.

@@patrickbarnes9874 Patrick, You asked a lot of questions with the built-in assumption that they can't be answered; I suggest you drop the skeptical posture and let the same Church that gave you the Bible, the Catholic Church, respond to your quandary. You'd be pleasantly surprised by your discovery and the peace that follows. May God bless your discernment.

This is video is a lie. Where do you think Mary's worship comes from? Purgatory is a lie. They have nothing to prove this. They hate the Apostle Paul because he doesn't fit into their doctrine. Too much is saved by faith and not works for them.

Sorry that doesn't compute. Ideas stand independent of the ones giving them. That fact that Isaac Newton discovered gravity doesn't make him the ultimate authority on science. Gravity existed well prior to Newton. The only difference though is Jesus, who was the "WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE". He was the WORD. The Catholic magisterium is composed of fallible men.

@@jaimearviso4642 But there is the newton chair of physics.

@@isaacosahon4352 That doesn't mean he is the infallible ultimate authority on all things physics.

@@jaimearviso4642 Who is the ultimate authority on science?

@@jaimearviso4642 Please say it is God almighty. ...

Me too!! God bless you!!!

Hey, listen, when you hit our age you will be clicking the "beautify" button, too.

Yeah but who is wielding the hammer. Jesus Christ. We are the body but he is the Head. Jesus is the the AUTHORITY not the magesterium.

@@jaimearviso4642 God is the ultimate authority. Jesus, God, built ONE church. Jesus gave the church authority. People in the church have authority in a hierarchical manner. All of the above is from scripture. See How to be Christian's video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pch1jKqLu67QmIE.html

@@jaimearviso4642 Jesus established His Church,

What if I built a house out of hammers?

@@michaelibach9063 Hey bro, feel free to reread all my comments again.

Jacob Schuler Odd considering Catholicism is in direct conflict with the bible. If the Catholic Church actually canonized the bible like Catholics like to claim, they did a very poor job of selecting books which match their beliefs.

Chris Topher well said Chris

You should read Dr. John Bergsma's book 'How Scripture Made Me Catholic.' He's a former Presbyterian pastor.

Alex Lielbardis what about the teaching that Muslims and atheists can be saved , that contradicts scripture

Did Jesus tell us to read the bible which is to be canonized 350 years later? AND interpret it ANY way we please based on how we feel that particular day. Based on that logic I can belong to any church I want and the truth will preside in that church and that church alone. Heck. I might do just that. Everybody come to the church I just opened up all by myself. It's called the silly banana worship church and finally after 2000 years I finally interpreted scripture the right way and everyone else is dead wrong. Sound logic lol

So ironically, *Protestants* are (so we believe, at least) recapturing the apostolic era of the relation of tradition to Scripture. We’d agree that tradition is indispensable-but as a servant of understanding and knowing the Word, which is the font of our faith, and not an equal twin pillar to it.

@@anglicanaesthetics 2 Timothy 3, First this has nothing to do with protestants. We are saved and live for Jesus just as much if not more than Catholics. You are saying we are totally lost and against God and that is a lie. You are being God now and judging. 2 Timothy 3 is about unbelievers during the end times. Paul had this to say to Timothy near the end. 2 Timothy 3: 10 "You, however, know all about my teaching, my way of life, my purpose, faith, patience, love, endurance. Look no works but Faith, patience, love, endurance". You have nothing worthwhile in your long boring comment. Of course, you now say Paul should not have been in the Bible and his letters are wrong. Many Catholics do because they do not conform to Catholic doctrine. As for the Canon, so you are saying nothing in the NT should be in the Bible but the NT refers to the Canon in many places. The Apocrypha does not deserve to be in your OT because it is not Canon. "The church’s tradition therefore does not make Scripture authoritative, but recognizes what it is."So you just said we should never talk about Jesus. His words are useless and have no authority of any kind. How can you say someone that never knew Christ personally is Apostolic and not the Apostles themselves. That is the most stupid thing I have heard in at least 2 months. Men having visions or so-called mystics telling them what to put down and yet you say the NT is not authoritative. You are one misled person.

@@anglicanaesthetics Please show me where Mary is the queen of heaven, she can heal the sick. that she is our intercessor to Jesus. Please use the so-called fathers you are talking about. Who brought up this lie about a purgatory? It sure isn't in the Bible.

@@bcalvert321 Where did I argue for any of those things? as an Anglican, I’m a Reformational Catholic (a Protestant, or what we believe Protestantism was supposed to be).

@@anglicanaesthetics You may be right and I apologize.

He is good at explaining what he believes. My problem is only that I disagree with him often because his Catholic traditions and teachings I believe are contrary to what the Bible teaches. He is very good at explaining what he believes, and understands most of the Protestant positions as well.

Yes he is.

@@ghostl1124 Which protestant positions do you think he is a little shaky on?

Tess Chavit …never heard of him.

@@ghostl1124 I agree with you that the Catholic Church and the use the word tradition. This is very faulty, I will encourage my brothers and sisters to reevaluate the Catholic Church teaching.

I totally didn’t recognize him at first, badass look indeed.

@@edgarariza Same as me. I said at first: "whp is that guy? Where is Pattrick Ma... oh... oh dear..."

I thought he was going to be welding a motorcycle frame in the background

catholics cussing agian...

@Sanctus Paulus I dont like the new look. I love Patrick though!

I listen to Jesus Christ and HE changed my life. Everyone can learn something from this video. Just take the wax out of your ears and "Give Peace a Chance" (John Lennon [RIP]. In the end, Jesus Christ will have the last WORD. I settle with that. Add nothing and take away nothing. That IS THE WORD. There is only ONE HEAVEN where all believers in Jesus Christ will go. Praying to the dead saints is a sin.

Rewatch the video. Where does bible contain the canon? It doesnt

@@johnyang1420 The Bible DOES contain the canon. It says the teachings of the Apostles are scriptures. And what is our canon? The OT plus the teachings of the Apostles.

So God isn't clever enough to speak to His creation in your religion? Interesting!

I think John Calvin actually got that bit (and maybe only that bit) right. The Fathers recognized scripture by the Spirit in them resonating with the same Spirit that inspired the scripture. That's not the only reason, but that's a big part. And also why I believe the Bible to be the word of God. I have consistently experienced it as such. I'm just trying to figure out if the Orthodox Church also preserving the same by the Spirit...

Because the writings of the Apostles said what the canon was. The Epistles describe themselves as Scriptures and specifically cite the words of Christ and the Apostles as those to obey to the exclusion of all else. So since the churches had in their possession those words of Christ and the Apostles, they then had all they needed on hand to complete the man of God as the Bible says. It's really not hard to put together. 2 Peter 3:16 specifically cites Apostolic letters as Scriptures; see also Luke 1:1-4, Romans 1:5-6, Luke 10:14-15, Ephesians 3:7-10, Ephesians 4:11-16, 1 Corinthians 11:2.

Objective or subjective. Pick one.

Ya, it’s called an ecumenical council

Me too! Love listening to his show in the morning :)

@@JesusmySalvation So where in the Bible does it say that the Catholic Church is Mystery Babylon?

Jesus my Salvation so who made you God to judge? The Holy Spirit told you all these things and forgot to tell the rest of us Catholics. Be careful when you judge. From your words I conclude that you know nothing about the Catholic Church except what your father the Devil has told you as he is trying his best to destroy the Church but the gates of hell will mot prevail. On this rock (Peter) I will build my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail and I believe Jesus not you.

Jesus my Salvation be careful you may Blaspheme the Holy Spirit with your revelations. It may have come from your father the devil

@@JesusmySalvation I pity you.

Jesus my Salvation Is English your first language? No offense, but your syntax is very much poor and it makes it very hard to understand you. Furthermore, you’re slipping into a relativistic framework of analysis which prevents you from grasping the verses which you’re citing. How do you *know* what Revelation calls the, “...whore of Babylon,” is the Catholic Church? Do you have an infallible witness to articulate this truth? Is that infallible witness the Holy Spirit? How do you know it is the Holy Spirit? It would seem to me that you are utilizing sacred scripture-something not defined with scripture itself mind you-to justify a preconception you had about the Catholic Church. Have you ever read the Catechism? Have you ever read any serious Catholic apologetics? Did you even listen to this very video? You could spend literal decades researching the Catholic Church and its rich history, yet you write it off with such a shallow and contrived insult that it is baffling. I encourage you to read St. Robert Bellarmine’s work “Church Militant”. Thank you for reading.

to nsbomb, "ability to believe" is not consequential in practice and in ethics on "came to faith" as your post appears to assert. "to believe" as by definition in uncertainty, otherwise "knowing" (Genesis 3:5), is the keeping in uncertainty of the inseparability and qualitative equality of thinking gift role and having faith identity need.

The example works perfectly!!! If you even figure out a short sentence….then why do you think you can figure out 1000s of sentences?

Sort of obvious

Point is there should be just one interpretation and in instance of questions, there has to be a persons, councils, an institution that will point to the correct one. How many protestants, Christian denomination / religion is there again? That’s how many interpretations you’ll get, claiming they are correct

@@johnyang1420, nah, the napkin example is inherently ambiguous. Several sentences would have helped make his meaning more precise. Plus, suppose we stick with the single sentence. Is the congregation for the doctrine of the faith going to have a better time sorting out what he meant based upon the same evidence? Nope. The mere fact that one would get an “authoritative” interpretation doesn’t mean that it would be the true interpretation. The true interpretation might be, “we can’t say exactly, but at the very least he negating that he SAID they stole money.” Beyond that anyone would need more information.

Sterling Crowne only when interpreted correctly

Sterling Crowne in your fallible man made opinion

Nowhere in the Bible does it imply that the things taught by word of mouth, were different than what was taught! Why do Catholics always want to argue this word of mouth situation like there was something different being taught. The things taught that were spoken by mouth were the things of Scripture! Paul taught nothing else but Scripture, so why is there some secret teachings by word only that somehow the man in the robe who calls himself the replacement of Christ, found out about! The pope is of his father the devil!

It says the Bible is adequate to complete the man of God. The issue is whether following the Bible is enough to get into heaven. It clearly is and it tells us it is.

@@fredharvey2720 agreed but that is not the issue here. The issue is whether the Bible-alone belief is Biblical.

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It's kinda interesting you posted this. I would reply to your post with this :If you had fully believed Jesus, you would believe that He didn't leave the New Testament. But He left His apostles who appointed successors. They had the authority to teach the Christian Community before the New Testament was composed and compiled. You said something about "traditions of men". FYI, they are not bad provided they do not contradict the Word of God. And besides, the Traditions that we (Catholics) are commanded to follow are from the apostles themselves.

​@@isaacosahon4352 The problem with "Traditions" is who decides what are "Traditions of Men" and What are "Godly Traditions". You have the vast majority of 1st century Jews following traditions that weren't from God...even though they were 100% convinced that they were. How can you be 100% sure that your traditions are from God and not from men? I say this to say that I am willing to "die on the hill" of what Christ has said and what the eyewitness accounts have said about Christianity. I am not willing to die on the hill of any "tradition" that Christ hasn't taught or directly or indirectly inferred. Thus, I am 100% down with the Eucharist, Baptism, etc. I would 100% not be down with the fullness of what Catholics believe about Mary since we have zero words from Jesus or any of the 12 Apostles on the current concept of Mary.

@@brianmccaffrey1291 Thank God for your convinction regarding Baptism and the Eucharist. I appreciate your sincerity concerning the Church dogmas on Mary, which are: 1. Mother of God 2. Virgin 3. Sinless 4. Assumption. It was also an issue for me as well. But once I realised that the rule of faith is not in scripture alone, it became easier to understand these dogmas. Is it all 4 dogmas that you disagree with? If not, let me know the ones you disagree with.

@@brianmccaffrey1291 The problem with scripture alone is that scripture can be used correctly as well as incorrectly. The devil quoted Scripture to Christ to tempt Him. If we Catholics said traditions alone, you really should refute us because traditions can be used correctly as well as incorrectly. The Traditions that Catholics are asked to follow are the Apostolic Traditions, which the Apostles or their students taught. Interpretations of Scripture should not contradict these Traditions and these Traditions should not go against scripture. For instance, you have to show where the Marian dogmas of the Church contradict the Bible.

@@brianmccaffrey1291 You asked: Who decides "traditions of Men" and the "traditions of God "? My answer is Jesus gave the Apostolic Church the judicial authority to discern these things. And yes Jesus was against the Pharisees, but he did tell his followers to do what they say, but not what they do.....

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Did Paul transmit the gospel to the gentiles by reading and referring them to scriptures? Which scriptures when the new testament was not even written. All the letters he wrote were to those he had preached? Tradition means doing what you so others doing and you also pass on. It is the practice of faith. It is the tradition that was written down but not all of it. On this unwritten part we look to what others did and we also do

I keep you in prayer. God’s will be done in all things. 🙏

MESSAGES GIVEN BY OUR LORD 1880 - 1883 I wish the first Friday after the feast of My Sacred Heart to be set apart as a festive day in honour of My Sacred Head as the Seat of Divine Wisdom, and that public adoration be offered to Me for all the outrages and sins which are continually being committed against Me.” “It should be dedicated as a festive day in its honour, and special reparation and atonement be then offered to Him. June 2, 1880 The Sacred Head was in a special manner the dwelling place of the Holy Ghost. Our Lord wished the great mystery of the Incarnation to be made very clear (or taught very carefully) to the children. Whitsuntide 1881 Our Lord impressed upon her - His Soul is not known, His Soul is not loved, and tells me not, by actual words. Juni 1883 Our Blessed Lord wishes His Sacred Head to receive special adoration. Aug. 17, 1882 Those who shall try by words or means to hinder or reject it, shall be as glass that is cast down, or as an egg that is thrown to the wall, that is that they shall be shattered and become as naught, and shall be dried up and wither as grass on the housetop. April 9, 1880 Even the devotion to the Sacred Heart is incomplete without this devotion to His Sacred Head. June 2, 1880 He would wish now to be crowned and acknowledged as the Wisdom of the Father, the true King of Kings. Juni 15, 1880 This morning at holy Mass when the Sacred Host was raised at the elevation, I saw as it were the whole court of heaven in prostrate adoration. May 27, 1880 Our dear Blessed Lord wishes His Sacred Head to be honoured as the “Shrine of the Powers of His Holy Soul’. Nov. 11, 1880 Around His Sacred Head shone a light of indescribable brilliancy and beauty: as it were a sun in which sparkled 12 magnificent crystal stones reflecting all the colours of the rainbow. May 23, 1880 “It will be the great devotion of the church in time to come. July 16, 1881 The crucifix is the Book of books and to me the Tree of Life and contains never ending volumes. June, 1880 It makes me tremble with terror at the dread punishments He has in store for all who shall hinder, or try to hinder the furtherance of this heavenly devotion, for their jaws He says shall be locked as were those of the lions in the den into which Daniel was cast, they shall be shattered and become as naught. May 9, 1880 The Sacred Head is the Shrine of the Powers of the Soul. The Head is also the Centre of all the senses of the body, and that this devotion is the completion, not only of the devotion of the Sacred Heart, but the crowning and perfection of all devotions; and he showed me how the adorable Trinity at His baptism revealed to the world this special devotion for His Sacred Humanity is the tabernacle of the thrice Holy Trinity; and that St. John has specially spoken of this devotion for the Most High revealed to him that he should be thus worshipped before the end of the world. April 9, 1880 PROMISES Anyone who shall assist in furthering this Devotion shall be blessed a 1,000 fold; but woe to him that shall reject or go against My Wish in this respect, for they shall be scattered in My Wrath and shall know their place no more. June 2, 1880 Our Lord would crown and clothe with a peculiar glory all those who further this devotion to the Sacred Head. He would clothe with glory before angels and men in the courts of heaven those who clothed Him in glory on earth and would crown them in everlasting bliss. Sept. 10, 1880 We render a great homage to the ever Blessed Trinity by adoring our dear blessed Lord’s Sacred Head as the ‘Seat of Divine Wisdom.’ Annunciation 1881 Our Lord would bless all who practice or further this devotion in any way. July 16, 1881 Untold blessings are promised to those who shall try to further our Lord’s wishes in spreading the devotion. June 2, 1880 The more we practice devotion to the Sacred Head the more we must see of the working of the Holy Spirit of God in the human soul, and the better we will know and Love the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. June 2, 1880 The devotion and love to His Sacred Heart should be bestowed a hundred fold upon those who practice devotion to the Seat of Divine Wisdom. May, 1883 Our blessed Lord said that all that He had promised to those who should worthily love and honour His Sacred Head should be poured out upon those who honoured it themselves or were the means of others doing so. Oh Sacred Head, may Thy Wisdom ever guide us, and the Sacred Tongue ever bless us and plead for Mercy and Pardon, and may we never hear the curse pronounced against those who shall hinder or despise this devotion. June 2, 1880 To them that honour Me, I will give of My Might and I will be their God and they shall be My children and I will place My Sign upon their foreheads and My Seal upon their lips. June 2, 1880 He gave me to understand that this Wisdom and Light was the seal that marked the number of His elect and they shall see His Face and His Name shall be on their foreheads. May 23, 1880 Our Lord gave her to understand that St. John referred to His Sacred Head of the Seat of Divine Wisdom in the last two Chapters of Revelations and with this mark were sealed the numbers of His elect. May 23, 1880 Our Lord shows her the great blessings and graces he has in store for all who shall further His Divine Will to this end. May 9, 1880 Imprimatur, Edm. Can. Surmont, VG, England, September 2, 1926 holywounds.net/head

I pray for you.

@@R01202 You should, because these are not my words, but those of Christ.

@Life Do you honestly believe that this is referring to Catholic traditions? 2 Thess 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. This is referring to the doctrine of Christ and the Apostles! Catholic traditions were introduced in the second, third, and so-forth centuries. Study Ignatius of Antioch. He is responsible for changing the order of church services, bringing in the altar, the cup, etc. He taught to submit to only one bishop as on to Christ. I can go on and on. Pray you have ears to listen to the facts and truth of biblical history.

Hi. I'm sorry for your poor experience with these denominations. I've had my fare share of encounters with both AG and the Church of God member's who were uninformed/belligerent/and hostile. But I've also met more than my fare share of ministers belonging to their denominations, men and women who sincerely embody the Gospel of Jesus and work to reconcile the world, even through their own sufferings. It's easy to white wash, but remember that even after his missions trips, in Acts 23, Paul identifies as a Pharisee - clearly men from different backgrounds of belief, fisherman/pharisee's, can come together in Christ and despite my differences I'm grateful for my AG and Church of God and Baptist friends to tirelessly work to fulfill the Great Commission.

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@@isiwaktu2525 what do you mean ?..

@@johannw7724 I agree and want people to read your comment and the admin pin up your comment.

And after having rejected the Apostolic Tradition, they invent their own human tradition.

MESSAGES GIVEN BY OUR LORD 1880 - 1883 I wish the first Friday after the feast of My Sacred Heart to be set apart as a festive day in honour of My Sacred Head as the Seat of Divine Wisdom, and that public adoration be offered to Me for all the outrages and sins which are continually being committed against Me.” “It should be dedicated as a festive day in its honour, and special reparation and atonement be then offered to Him. June 2, 1880 The Sacred Head was in a special manner the dwelling place of the Holy Ghost. Our Lord wished the great mystery of the Incarnation to be made very clear (or taught very carefully) to the children. Whitsuntide 1881 Our Lord impressed upon her - His Soul is not known, His Soul is not loved, and tells me not, by actual words. Juni 1883 Our Blessed Lord wishes His Sacred Head to receive special adoration. Aug. 17, 1882 Those who shall try by words or means to hinder or reject it, shall be as glass that is cast down, or as an egg that is thrown to the wall, that is that they shall be shattered and become as naught, and shall be dried up and wither as grass on the housetop. April 9, 1880 Even the devotion to the Sacred Heart is incomplete without this devotion to His Sacred Head. June 2, 1880 He would wish now to be crowned and acknowledged as the Wisdom of the Father, the true King of Kings. Juni 15, 1880 This morning at holy Mass when the Sacred Host was raised at the elevation, I saw as it were the whole court of heaven in prostrate adoration. May 27, 1880 Our dear Blessed Lord wishes His Sacred Head to be honoured as the “Shrine of the Powers of His Holy Soul’. Nov. 11, 1880 Around His Sacred Head shone a light of indescribable brilliancy and beauty: as it were a sun in which sparkled 12 magnificent crystal stones reflecting all the colours of the rainbow. May 23, 1880 “It will be the great devotion of the church in time to come. July 16, 1881 The crucifix is the Book of books and to me the Tree of Life and contains never ending volumes. June, 1880 It makes me tremble with terror at the dread punishments He has in store for all who shall hinder, or try to hinder the furtherance of this heavenly devotion, for their jaws He says shall be locked as were those of the lions in the den into which Daniel was cast, they shall be shattered and become as naught. May 9, 1880 The Sacred Head is the Shrine of the Powers of the Soul. The Head is also the Centre of all the senses of the body, and that this devotion is the completion, not only of the devotion of the Sacred Heart, but the crowning and perfection of all devotions; and he showed me how the adorable Trinity at His baptism revealed to the world this special devotion for His Sacred Humanity is the tabernacle of the thrice Holy Trinity; and that St. John has specially spoken of this devotion for the Most High revealed to him that he should be thus worshipped before the end of the world. April 9, 1880 PROMISES Anyone who shall assist in furthering this Devotion shall be blessed a 1,000 fold; but woe to him that shall reject or go against My Wish in this respect, for they shall be scattered in My Wrath and shall know their place no more. June 2, 1880 Our Lord would crown and clothe with a peculiar glory all those who further this devotion to the Sacred Head. He would clothe with glory before angels and men in the courts of heaven those who clothed Him in glory on earth and would crown them in everlasting bliss. Sept. 10, 1880 We render a great homage to the ever Blessed Trinity by adoring our dear blessed Lord’s Sacred Head as the ‘Seat of Divine Wisdom.’ Annunciation 1881 Our Lord would bless all who practice or further this devotion in any way. July 16, 1881 Untold blessings are promised to those who shall try to further our Lord’s wishes in spreading the devotion. June 2, 1880 The more we practice devotion to the Sacred Head the more we must see of the working of the Holy Spirit of God in the human soul, and the better we will know and Love the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. June 2, 1880 The devotion and love to His Sacred Heart should be bestowed a hundred fold upon those who practice devotion to the Seat of Divine Wisdom. May, 1883 Our blessed Lord said that all that He had promised to those who should worthily love and honour His Sacred Head should be poured out upon those who honoured it themselves or were the means of others doing so. Oh Sacred Head, may Thy Wisdom ever guide us, and the Sacred Tongue ever bless us and plead for Mercy and Pardon, and may we never hear the curse pronounced against those who shall hinder or despise this devotion. June 2, 1880 To them that honour Me, I will give of My Might and I will be their God and they shall be My children and I will place My Sign upon their foreheads and My Seal upon their lips. June 2, 1880 He gave me to understand that this Wisdom and Light was the seal that marked the number of His elect and they shall see His Face and His Name shall be on their foreheads. May 23, 1880 Our Lord gave her to understand that St. John referred to His Sacred Head of the Seat of Divine Wisdom in the last two Chapters of Revelations and with this mark were sealed the numbers of His elect. May 23, 1880 Our Lord shows her the great blessings and graces he has in store for all who shall further His Divine Will to this end. May 9, 1880 Imprimatur, Edm. Can. Surmont, VG, England, September 2, 1926 holywounds.net/head

What's the point?...Go and watch Patrick Madrid Vs James white debate video. There's nothing new Rogers will argue.

Madrid and Catholicism won.

Why are there 1000s of Protestant denominations that conflict with each other?

Where does bible say “Keep it simple”?

@Prasanth Thomas Thank you for saying "baptism by desire" instead of "baptism of desire," since "baptism of desire is ambiguous. It could mean that desire is something to baptize. You pour water on someone who wants to get baptized. But the want won't get wet. To me, today's ecumenism suggests the modernist heresy I remember Pope John Paul II Assisi meetings where pagans committed objective idolatry. Moderists would believe that God is revealing himself even to pagans. For modernists, revelation is a feeling instead of truth we get from outside us. So JPII and others who supported those meetings may have thought they needed to respect what the pagagans did because the pagans were expressing their feelings. That may explain why JPII kissed a copy of the Qu'ran. I think Popes John Paul II, Benedict XVI, and Francis sound much like modernists.

@Prasanth Thomas BoD means that sometimes when someone can't get water baptized, his wanting to get it can substitute for it. But the word "of" still makes the phrase "baptism of desire" ambiguous. The phrase "property of existence" is ambiguous, too, It can mean "property that is existence," "property that existence has," or both.

Yet there is no way to trace "Tradition", since it isn't written down. Seems like a convenient way to slip in fallacies over the centuries.

@@douglasmcnay644 that’s pretty much the type of reasoning that atheists use to say there is no God, arguing from a lack of empirical evidence. Even still, much of Tradition is witnessed to in the writings of Christians through the centuries on the one hand, and on the other hand errors can be slipped into writings, especially in our understanding of particular words.

@@douglasmcnay644 Catholic church buddy!!! 2000 years!!!!

@@johnyang1420 Lies and heresies for 2 thousand years.

@@bcalvert321 Do you reject Pope Dionysius, Bishop of Rome's condemnation of the sabellians (modalism, today's oneness Pentecostals), which in it he also rejected proto-Arianism. Do you reject the Council of Nicea (325 AD)? which formally condemned arianism. Do you reject the Council of Chalcedon in 451 AD when Pope Saint Leo the Great issued his Tome which formulated the Christological doctrine against the mono-physites? Which version the various protestant sects do you belong to?

Sacred (Big T) Tradition can never conflict with scripture but tradition of men (little t) can.

30,000 plus Protestant denominations that conflict with each other???? Seems chaotic

Amen

@@ally2000 *"it saddens me greatly this whole dismissive talk about Sola Scriptura when I see MOST Catholics completely blind"* -- This doctrine was unheard of until the Reformation!!

Sola scriptura is Protestant. Sola verbum dei is Catholic. Catholics read the bible!! Sheesh!!!!

Take RCIA please

Surprise surprise, that's what the Church teaches; Why is the Christian Faith not a “religion of the book”? (The Cathecism of the Catholic church, CCC 108) The Christian Faith is not a “religion of the book”, because it is not centered around a written and mute word, but around the incarnate and living Word.

@@dyo510 Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

@@jamessheffield4173Ah.., but by every word that proceeedeth out of the the mouth of God(and of course it is written too but what made it significant?it is Jesus incarnate because He is the living word where the Church testify to that and unfortunately not all the testimoies of Jesus, the Living Word are written. Are you familiar with John21:25? Here it is:"Now there are also many other things that Jesus did. Were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written."

@@jamessheffield4173 At first I aapologize if I sounded a bit sarcastic, that's not my true intention that all I want as a Catholic for you to see the truth, so I am sincerely sorry. By the way Check out this part from a trusted catholic website (and yes I did copy paste it). Hopefully you will read the whole article and the link is at the very bottom. God bless brother! : Scripture (CCC 101-141) Scripture, by which we mean the Old and New Testaments, was inspired by God (2 Tim. 3:16). The Holy Spirit guided the biblical authors to write what he wanted them to write. Since God is the principal author of the Bible, and since God is truth itself (John 14:6) and cannot teach anything untrue, the Bible is free from all error in everything it asserts to be true. Some Christians claim, “The Bible is all I need,” but this notion is not taught in the Bible itself. In fact, the Bible teaches the contrary idea (2 Pet. 1:20-21, 3:15-16). The “Bible alone” theory was not believed by anyone in the early Church. It is new, having arisen only in the 1500s during the Protestant Reformation. The theory is a “tradition of men” that nullifies the Word of God, distorts the true role of the Bible, and undermines the authority of the Church Jesus established (Mark 7:1-8). Although popular with many “Bible Christian” churches, the “Bible alone” theory simply does not work in practice. Historical experience disproves it. Each year we see additional splintering among “Bible-believing” religions. Today there are tens of thousands of competing denominations, each insisting its interpretation of the Bible is the correct one. The resulting divisions have caused untold confusion among millions of sincere but misled Christians. Just open up the Yellow Pages of your telephone book and see how many different denominations are listed, each claiming to go by the “Bible alone,” but no two of them agreeing on exactly what the Bible means. We know this for sure: The Holy Spirit cannot be the author of this confusion (1 Cor. 14:33). God cannot lead people to contradictory beliefs because his truth is one. The conclusion? The “Bible alone” theory must be false. www.catholic.com/tract/pillar-of-fire-pillar-of-truth

@@dyo510 John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Weren't the Romans and the Greeks gentiles when Jesus was speaking the words that you quoted? Didn't the bishops of Rome want all the authority over other bishops at that time? So your opinion applies to your Roman Catholic church also.

So does in Indonesia. KZfaq is the field of debating of some Protestant's pastor bustling with their teaching amongst the denomination, with muslims, and of course with Catholics. Thank God our catholics priest dont play the same trick. Yap, They plant the seed for water to flow not the fire that to burn. Thank God

@KW L You are aware that you're making a comment in a video where Catholics attack Protestant, aren't you? And I hope you are aware also that the first comment is Catholics attacked Protestant.

@KW L So it's a two-way directions. Unless you present some statistics that Protestants do more, keep your opinion to yourself.

@KW L Now you made a command, hahaha.

Right. When I think of sola scripture, I dont see it as only scripture as authority but merely first and last authority. If it does start with scripture or fit with scripture then it is to be rejected. The bible is the word of God. I'm not Protestant or Catholic aswell

Nothing about the catholic church contradicts the bible because the bible was first compiled by the catholic church. Jesus founded the catholic church.

Rewatch the video. Jesus started Catholic church. Sign up for RCIA to learn Catholicism from the Catholic church. Stop learning Catholicism from nonCatholics! Check out “I never said you stole money” at 58:00.

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@@Personaje123 True!!!

Huh? can you please define what Sola Scriptura is?

@alray Where does Jesus or Paul identify the church? Where did Jesus or Peter give a bishop of Rome the authority to speak and be the head of the entire church?

@alray great explanation!

alray where did Jesus or Peter give any keys to a bishop of Rome? Where does Jesus or Peter mention the Roman Catholic Church?

alray define Sola Scriptura please?

And yet Jesus was clear, he passed authority to Peter, not Luther.

The church is the pillar and bullwark of truth...timothy..on this church is where jesus entrusted all his mysteries of salvation and all truths under the supremacy of Peter...those who hear to the apostles teachings received and existed in the church will only know the truth...

@@pggangmei7624 good stuff, yes.

@@nosuchthing8 Lies! Learn the Scriptures instead of perverting them! Peter was called the "petros" rock -the little rock. The fact that Christ is God and came to die for sinners is the "petra" rock - the cornerstone - on which God's church is built! Learn Scriptures son!

@@JK-oi8ul ah, I see your mistake. You think Jesus spoke in Greek? No he spoke in Aramaic and the new Testament was written in Greek. In Aramaic it's cepha, and that's it So yes Jesus changed Simon's name to rock and said he would build his church on rock. Glad I could clear that up for you.

Anglican? Orthodox? Lutheran? Where?

“Whatever draws us to our Lord should be the most important thing.” Where does Jesus say that?? Didn’t He say He wanted his followers to be united?

So your truth filter is “what you like”? Fallible!!! Take RCIA and become Catholic again!!!!

@@johnyang1420 Not sure why you are quoting me as saying "what you like" since those words are not at all in my comment.

@@marybeth1747 You are correct in that I am extrapolating from His statements around us being willing to follow Him (to the point of hating our families and our lives - Luke 14:26), and the multiple places in Hebrews (4:16, 7:19, 7:25, 10:22) and James 4:8 where we are told to draw near, though it doesn't say that it is the most important thing. Sitting in the pew in a particular church doesn't unite me to other believers, Christ does.

Yeah. The minute he said "there is a dearth of material on sola scriptura" I knew this would be a very uninformed presentation with only the Catholic side presented.

Exactly.

And neither contradicted each other. Same with Scripture/ Tradition/Magisterium.

@@ajamusic7322 "Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; and honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matthew 15:1-6. The Oral Torah contradicts the Commandments of God. As does the Roman Catholic tradition. Matthew 7:7, John 3:16, Acts 16:13, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Colossians 2:8, 1 Timothy 2:5, 1 John 5:1, Hebrews 4:1-12, Hebrews 11:1-3.

@@cademiclips which Catholic tradition do you speak of?

@Ernest Doe Gbadago there's no way that specific verse applies in all situations. The Pharisees said Jesus was the prince of Demons. Are we to follow that teaching? The Pharisees told the disciples to wash their hands before every mean for religious purposes. Didn't Jesus break this commandment of men? When what the Pharisees say align with God's teachings, then it's time to follow them. But that occasion is rare.

LOL. Bro, you know your stuff. I wonder the same thing. Jesus even seem to operate within that style of oral tradition - it's not inherently bad, but when it contradicts scripture....Jesus' is quick to call it out/condemn it.

You are correct...

Find out if Jesus started Catholic church. Jesus did start Carholic church. Then trust what Catholic church teaches. Check out book Pope Peter by Joe Heschmeyer. God bless you!!!!

Check out “I never said you stole money” at 58:00.

You authority is yourself….

Narrow the number of interpretations - yes. Make it clear - no.

Mila what do you mean?

@@bigbrownhouse6999 Well, ironically me and you just heard a story about guy writing 'I never said you stole my money' on a napkin and we don't know what that meant, but let's disregard that story. The story goes like that: There're 2 friends. One of them is on trial, accused of stealing money- Let's call him Joe. Someone tells him that his friend is going around telling people that Joe stole the money. Joe confronts his friend about it: J: I heard that you are going around tell people that I stole money. You know that I am innocent. F: I never said you stole money. And the friend storms of the scene. I see at least 3 interpretations of what 'I never said you stole money means' : 1. Friend believes that Joe is innocent and doesn't tell people that Joe stole money. 2. Friend doesn't believe that Joe is innocent but doesn't tell people that Joe stole money. 3. Friend tells people that Joe took someone else's money but he never used a word 'stealing' while doing that. Which one is the true meaning of those words ?

Mila it is not possible to tell which of those are correct with the information given. That was my point. The Bible contains information that helps you interpret the other parts. For example, if you have read the book of Leviticus, it helps you understand the gospels and Hebrews. If you have read genesis, it helps you understand Romans, because the Bible is a continuous story that references itself. Scripture interprets Scripture.

@@bigbrownhouse6999 To the some extend yes it helps. Bible is countinuous story but it's also teachings and letters, that have very little to do with the story itself. There are literal and symbolical interpretations to some of the teachings. Take for example teachings on eucharist, we have two passages on it in the Gospels it still doesn't help to decide which interpretation is correct. If you just rely on the Bible any of those can be correct. You will choose what you prefer not necessarily what is true. The story itself is almost secondary in the Bible.

I think the problem with that is that the canon of scripture wasn't simply handed to us by God. There were many writings floating around, and different unofficial "canons" being used in different areas. Maybe you argue that the canon came about naturally by focusing on the writings of the apostles, but that's not historically accurate. There were writings claimed to be written by apostles which were discarded because they were determined to contain error, or weren't considered inspired, or whatever. There was a process of narrowing down the list, then making it official, which wasn't finished until several centuries later. Now that the Catholic Church has authoritatively determined which writings are part of the official canon, we can say that they are authoritative because we trust that God guided the Church in determining which writings should be considered the inerrant word of God. You could also say tradition helped guide the church in evaluating the writings to determine which were inspired. I think most Protestants take for granted that if it weren't for the Catholic Church determining the Canon, we might still have multiple collections of writings, with different groups arguing over which collection of writings are "self evidently authoritative".

@@misbehavens Hi, thoughtful reply. I'll reflect on this some more. I guess my knee jerk response is that the composition of the cannon as a whole - by the Catholic Church - wasn't complete until post Reformation. It was after Luther said "these are the books of OT & NT" that the council of Trent in 1546 came out with a complete OT cannon including the Deuterocanonical books. (And I don't necessarily think the Deuterocanonical books should not be a part of our OT. I think the council of trent may have had some good reasons to include those!) And yet, prior to this date, many referred to the Scriptures of the OT! The issue was not that someone needed to decided what Canon was, it was progressively that others were adding or subtracting. For almost 1500 years, the church was so unanimous on OT canon, no one needed to contend otherwise. Canon was put forward not to establish scripture, but to defend it. I think one could say the same thing about the NT. The first NT Canon was not composed by the early Catholic Church/Christian Church but by Marcion. Subsequent Canon were put forward not to establish what was not known, but to defend what was uncontested for years until Marcion came along and chopped up gospel accounts. Perhaps more concisely: there was no need to pronounce judgment on what was not in dispute. Canon was put forward not as much as a declaration but as a preservation.

@J.W. H. I mean, why is there disagreement at all? The Fall. Peter and Paul were at odds with one another, and apparently Peter was wrong. Why? Because canon wasn't set by an authority? No, Peter was that very authority! Rather, Peter was wrong because he stood at odds with a self-evident implication of Christ's resurrection: gentile inclusion. Don't want to unpack why that's self evident, but it is very reasonable within the first century worldview - if one accepts Jesus' death/ressurection on a cross, not a given - to understand that Jesus' work as a passover lamb removes distinction. Like Peter and Paul, conflict is inevitable, and besides the point. How we resolve that tension is the issue, and where did Peter and Paul go for resolution? Gospel truth, not church authority.

@@pngballar24 If you said the Canon was completed after post Reformation, then the Church was teaching under Tradition before Reformation and not under a book. Also who confirms those books are really the "Word of God"?and what version of the hundreds of versions of those books are the correct?

@@LuisSalazar-vu4jd Hi Luis, interesting idea. If the Church was teaching under tradition before the OT Canon was officially instituted, why did it appeal to scripture? Or are you suggesting scripture derives it's authority from early church tradition? I can't quite track. Seem's a bit circular to me. Wasn't tradition deriving its authority from Scripture? Again, there's generally no need to formalize a stance on something that isn't in contention. Up until the Reformation, it seems "tradition" believed what constituted Scripture was in fact self-evident. Naturally, if Luther butchered Scripture, then it would make sense for the Council of Trent, among other things, to defend what had been self-evident up to that point. Tradition does not ratify Scripture, it recognizes it.

Are you using that as support for sola scriptura?

No I'm using it as a refute of Sola scriptura.

wattsobx I spent 8 long years studying Protestantism, while avoiding Catholicism all together. Eventually I found myself at mass, God “exposed” Himself to me in the Eucharist. I cried for over an hour. Catholic doctrine is true, the writings of Catholic Saints are great. That being said, we are in a horrible spot in Church history. Vatican 2 has distorted Catholic teaching. Luckily, Vatican 2 was never stamped infallible, thus is not binding on the faithful. Bad priests and bishops seek to make Catholicism less Catholic and more Protestant. Check out Taylor Marshall on KZfaq. I would encourage you to continue studying Catholicism, but older catechisms, not the new one. Find a Latin mass, avoid the novus Ordo. Protestantism was an attack on Catholicism from the outside. It caused division, confusion and the like. Now, the attacks are from the inside. All seeking to separate people from the Latin mass, but that’s not going to happen. It’s a really confusing time to become a Christian. Sorry about that, just pray and ask God to help you navigate it. Peace, God bless

Don't listen to the lies Michael is spewing brother! You nailed it, the men in rome, from the start of the first one who claimed to be the replacement of Christ, are all from their father the devil. The devil has once again perverted the truth of God with idolatry and rituals, that's his M.O. With so many things to argue, I will exhort you to start here... start with the fact catholics believe mary was not a sinner, and that they believe Jesus is an insufficient high priest, and the fact that they believe praying to dead folks is not idolatry, lastly, that they call men of the clergy father, when Jesus explicitly told us not to call people in spiritually authoritative seats father because we have only One Father. Brother, once you understand how the devil moves, he's very noticeable. His language is the same. His tactics and reasonings are the same. His patterns of idolatry are the same. Once you see the perversion of the devil in that religion, you will see God has nothing to do with that nonsense. Brother hear me... every single false religion, every one of them, adds something to God's gospel. They say you need "Jesus PLUS something else"... in this case, catholics want Jesus plus rituals. Jesus plus Mary. Jesus plus the saints. No! Jesus Christ, alone, is sufficient! Look up the Aseity attribute of God!