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@christopherspindler6328
@christopherspindler6328 4 ай бұрын
As a former soldier….the reason they didn’t fasten their chinstraps back then is the same as it is today… it is much more comfortable with it undone…
@johnsonbobson3652
@johnsonbobson3652 4 ай бұрын
So true I’m a solder and I really envy those that didn’t have to fasten the strap
@MendicantsBiceps
@MendicantsBiceps 4 ай бұрын
This is part of it but there are a lot of records showing this to be reason as well
@alexadamson9959
@alexadamson9959 4 ай бұрын
Not a soldier but I play airsoft in full gear. And I never fasten my chin strap for the same reason.
@boondocker7964
@boondocker7964 4 ай бұрын
Yup!
@HansJuergBangerter
@HansJuergBangerter 4 ай бұрын
also the strap opens with pressure from an explosion or when an enemy soldier tryies to break your neck8 has a safety)...you can't run with an unstrapped hemet...also you often jump head first for cover..try doing that with an unstrapped hwelemet the guy who makes this videos is an amateur
@shane7051
@shane7051 4 ай бұрын
This is a myth. There's many interviews with actual WWII vets that said if they were in an area where combat was likely they ALWAYS kept their chin strap on and that if they didn't their helmets would fall off when moving to cover and such.
@homiekitten6161
@homiekitten6161 4 ай бұрын
It was different unit to unit; Some wore it, some didn’t
@osric1730
@osric1730 3 ай бұрын
@@homiekitten6161 And you base this assumption on what exactly?
@Mulberry2000
@Mulberry2000 2 ай бұрын
yes and also the helmet been used as a weapon if fell to the ground. If your in unarmed combat, a helmet on would help from rifle butt to the head
@brianoneil9662
@brianoneil9662 4 ай бұрын
A blast wave that strong would kill youanyways. It was a widespread myth that was passed on by veteran to newbies and there weren't too many physics majors in the infantry
@Jawa614
@Jawa614 4 ай бұрын
The helmets were heavy enough to stay on by themselves... and yes, strapped on helmets had broken necks
@alexadamson9959
@alexadamson9959 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. Same amount of force is transferred to the head regardless of whether the helmet is fastened, unfastened or non existent.
@Jawa614
@Jawa614 4 ай бұрын
@alexadamson9959 not accurate. If the helmet flies off, the energy is not transferred to the head.
@alexadamson9959
@alexadamson9959 4 ай бұрын
@@Jawa614 no, accurate. Take 2 seconds to think about it and you’d realise that a helmet won’t just block and/or absorb the blast wave.
@Jawa614
@Jawa614 4 ай бұрын
@alexadamson9959 that's why it fly off a head. If it did not fly off the head it would transfer much of the nrg while absorbing some.
@76Schoeneberg30
@76Schoeneberg30 4 ай бұрын
16 years ago when i was serving my time in the german army, i once walked arround in the barracks with the straps open on mein Stahlhelmet and our Feldwebel told me to close them properly and said "we are not yankees". I was a 19 year old conscript in a reconaissance unit of the 1. Panzerdivision back then.
@ImNotCreativeEnoughToMakeUser
@ImNotCreativeEnoughToMakeUser 4 ай бұрын
What was your job in the Bundeswehr?
@mikebrase5161
@mikebrase5161 4 ай бұрын
​@@76Schoeneberg30US yankees haven't worn them like that since the early 1980's. I was stationed as OPFOR at Hohenfels. I miss Germany it was my favorite duty station.
@boundarysentinel4181
@boundarysentinel4181 4 ай бұрын
Glad you made it through
@schadow1979
@schadow1979 4 ай бұрын
​@@mikebrase5161I've never heard anyone stationed in Germany say any different than you. They all had a great time
@mattevans1643
@mattevans1643 4 ай бұрын
We aren't even allowed to wear them like that. In fact if we aren't wearing it, but it's in our possession we have to carry it like a baby. I usually strapped it to one of my belt loops
@markouellette8973
@markouellette8973 4 ай бұрын
Just an excuse. The real reason is that the chinstrap is uncomfortable and chafes, especially if you haven't been able to shave recently.
@Cardan011
@Cardan011 4 ай бұрын
Or especially if you are fresh shaven… if you nick yourself and then get all sweaty and dirty and that strap keeps chaffing…. Yeah gonna keep the straps open
@Mulberry2000
@Mulberry2000 2 ай бұрын
@@Cardan011 That did not happen with Canadian or British troops.
@Cardan011
@Cardan011 2 ай бұрын
@@Mulberry2000 Canadian and British troops wore plates on their heads 😂
@Mulberry2000
@Mulberry2000 2 ай бұрын
@@Cardan011fool
@Mulberry2000
@Mulberry2000 2 ай бұрын
@@Cardan011 The British saved the Americans at the battle of the bulge
@chris.3711
@chris.3711 4 ай бұрын
The likelihood was that if a blast was powerful enough to send the helmet back and break your neck. It probably had enough force to just flat out kill you. Another concern was an enemy grabbing your helmet in either a sneak attack or a fight, something rare to happen anyway. The biggest reason, was probably the given fact that the M1 Helmet strap is uncomfortable to wear.
@magicplayer84
@magicplayer84 4 ай бұрын
when the blast wave can snap your neck back, the chin strap was the least concern
@cgh7337
@cgh7337 3 ай бұрын
It should be noted that the only character in the film who wore his chinstrap was the inexperienced translator of the group: Upham.
@brianmcgill9662
@brianmcgill9662 3 ай бұрын
it's still fuck Upham for life
@gore0802
@gore0802 2 ай бұрын
​@@brianmcgill9662 Right! Upham is a coward and got his unit killed
@FedralBI
@FedralBI 4 ай бұрын
I remember in Basic Training back in the '80s, if your Drill Sergeant caught you with your chinstrap unfastened, they would yell "You think you're John Wayne? Buckle that chinstrap." Still funny all these years later.
@tomreg7737
@tomreg7737 4 ай бұрын
*sigh* oh well, basic training. what a great time beeing a worm in the dirt constantly beeing yelled at
@Thenogomogo-zo3un
@Thenogomogo-zo3un 4 ай бұрын
Prob a reference to 'Sands of Iwo Jima' where Wayne instructs one of his squad to unfasten his strap when disembarking the ship onto the landing craft below.
@kenfrievalt7826
@kenfrievalt7826 Ай бұрын
Ft Leonardwood 84
@BlanDam01
@BlanDam01 3 ай бұрын
Kinda like how the first thing we removed in Iraq was that Kevlar cod piece that probably didn’t protect shit but would smack against your nuts anytime you were moving.
@cookies_n_milk6224
@cookies_n_milk6224 3 ай бұрын
I just thought it would be annoying an hurt like hell
@lilcrow64
@lilcrow64 2 ай бұрын
I was a dork and wore my cod piece, I was scared of getting shot in the meat or something lol.
@BlanDam01
@BlanDam01 2 ай бұрын
@@lilcrow64 could of saved ya from getting your pecker shot off, would of been a real dork then. Need a mythbusters episode to know if that thing would actually protect the package.
@brysonwood8356
@brysonwood8356 4 ай бұрын
My grandfather and several of my grandmother’s brothers served in combat in WWII When I joined the Army in 1992 each of them (that were living) gave me two pieces of advice: 1) get right with God, first and foremost 2) never strap your helmet
@fegsanchez7344
@fegsanchez7344 4 ай бұрын
That's not the reason they didn't wear the strap... It was just extremely uncomfortable. You can NOT do this today
@timesthree5757
@timesthree5757 4 ай бұрын
But we did often. Especially if we were just sitting still or on defensive duty. Being an fng I kept mine snapped. 1st Sargent (top) came around saw me and said, "Son we are not maneuvering unstrap yer chin, I don't need you having a migraine if shit pops off".
@pecetabla8042
@pecetabla8042 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, not many CO or NCO gives a fuck about uniform codes on field, like even NCOs roll up their sleeves and shit here in Hungary if they're not in an inspection, we cadets rolled up our sleeves because we saw that everybody do it (turns out it's forbidden by code), but i've heard about uniform code "violation" from the US too, like the said undone helmet straps and other casual shits like these
@TraderRobin
@TraderRobin 4 ай бұрын
But when jumping out of aircraft, paratroopers would keep their helmets securely fastened.
@Unregistered.Hypercam.2.
@Unregistered.Hypercam.2. 4 ай бұрын
If the helmet got snapped off with such force to snap your neck , the belt would simply snap and not cause any damage.
@jacobgalfi1420
@jacobgalfi1420 4 ай бұрын
Those where the T2 helmet straps which came later in the war.
@smith97320
@smith97320 4 ай бұрын
What I've seen was the military was aware of it and told soldiers not to strap the helmet because there was a soldier that died from it early in the war.
@fetchingcat4914
@fetchingcat4914 4 ай бұрын
That is not true. It is a fact that if a soldier was close enough to a mortar or artillery round going off the blast wave could not only break their neck it could disconnect their spinal cord. It’s true and documented. I went on a tour and when we stopped at the Korean War Memorial the guide asked why the soldiers helmet straps were loose. I answered and I was correct.
@JohnDoe-gq6yg
@JohnDoe-gq6yg 4 ай бұрын
​@@jacobgalfi1420I don't think you understand what he's saying, he's not saying the straps were designed to break off, he's saying any strap would have broken if enough force to break your neck was applied to it
@smith97320
@smith97320 4 ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-gq6yg Again it was know that a blast could break a soldiers neck and they were told to not strap the helmets in combat.
@Kathy-us6zx
@Kathy-us6zx 4 ай бұрын
I cannot imagine what the soldiers have been thru. God Bless You All❤
@stevejorgensen5274
@stevejorgensen5274 4 ай бұрын
It was an honor to put on a uniform.
@mirandahotspring4019
@mirandahotspring4019 4 ай бұрын
The blast thing is a myth, there's a metal bead and fork connection that pulls apart under pressure. The main reason they were usually left loose was the strap being so uncomfortable!
@yokaren_boy
@yokaren_boy 3 ай бұрын
As anyone who has ever worn a helmet without a chin strap will know, you end up dropping your helmet when trying to pick up something you accidentally dropped
@waynewells2944
@waynewells2944 4 ай бұрын
My grandpa had three brothers in ww2 .one was a tank gunner. One was at Utah Beach got shot twice and lived. The other brother was in the Japanese island campaign. My grandpa counted fight because of saving private Ryan. And grandpa drove generals around in Italy.
@georgespruce6028
@georgespruce6028 4 ай бұрын
My Granddad from WW 1 said if you where in hand to hand combat the enemy could use your helmet to wrench your head back if the strap was connected under your chin.😂 The force causing you to loose your life by snapping your spine and loosing the fight.😂 UK 1960s
@krakrtreacysr907
@krakrtreacysr907 4 ай бұрын
That makes the most sense of all
@ronfullerton3162
@ronfullerton3162 4 ай бұрын
That is what I was told by a veteran.
@georgespruce6028
@georgespruce6028 4 ай бұрын
Well all I can say to those that say this is untrue. Is that my Granddad went through the whole of WW l blown up left for dead for 9 days was a sniper that was shot. Was drunk on rum at christmas and shot at the enemy which did not attack and was tide to a big gun wheel has punishment. Had games of cards with the enemy at the Christmas truce in WW l. Returned from hospital to find his unit had been wiped out completely. Moved along the front line at the somme with different units has the Irish from Inneskilin freed him from the gun wheel or would kill everyone. Returned after the war with about 2 dozen shrapnel in his body. Used to remove his own teeth ( no dentists on the front line during war he said ) had few toes those he had where black from frost bite, being frozen up to his waist in the trenches. Woke up many times with water frozen up to his waist and suffered terrible arthritis from the waiste down. SO WHY WOULD HE LIIE ABOUT HIS HELMET STRAP. AND HE TOLD ME NOT MY DAD HIS SON.( so my dad told me when did he tell you this he never told me half of this but i sat hours with him in his shed has a teen and loved every minute)
@krakrtreacysr907
@krakrtreacysr907 4 ай бұрын
@@georgespruce6028 im with your grandad
@osric1730
@osric1730 3 ай бұрын
@@georgespruce6028 Except of course if you're engaged in hand to hand combat you're far more concerned about being beaten around the head with an entrenching tool than having your helmet grappled. What you're saying does not make sense, and I spent my childhood discussing these things with a grandfather who spent the whole war in trenches too. Brody helmets are ridiculously easy to fall off your head. You've clearly never worn one. I have. You cannot run around in a Brody helmet with the chin strap undone let along engage in combat. They're bad enough with one. Photos of soldiers wearing this helmet almost never show the straps unfastened for this reason, even when they're just marching along a road. You'll even see them fastened when they're just sitting around in a trench. You will see them unfastened in extremely relaxed circumstances but they don't just sit on your head whilst you're going about your business. BTW. There were 850 dentists in the Royal Army Medical Corps.
@alakhpatel8001
@alakhpatel8001 4 ай бұрын
I have see documentaries where WW2 veterans explain that they had seen soldier’s neck get snapped due to helmet being strapped and hence became a standard practice to unstrap in combat.
@HansJuergBangerter
@HansJuergBangerter 4 ай бұрын
our helmets had a safety to unsnap by certain pressure, but my country is also GLOBAL INNOVATION LEADER so its possible your backwater country didn't know about this inventzon..I am happy you finally use our assault rifle in your SWAT teams and now marines
@ramonpunsalang3397
@ramonpunsalang3397 4 ай бұрын
I'd read that in cases where soldiers had to jump from a ship into the water, the helmet would wrench the head with great force
@stevejorgensen5274
@stevejorgensen5274 4 ай бұрын
50 years ago we were told the same thing. Only the chin strap was to be faster behind the helmet. That is unless you were going to jump out of a plane. Then it was to be fastened so you didn't loose your helmet.
@LerhChang
@LerhChang 4 ай бұрын
IMHO , it also looks cool. More like a battle-bathed soldier instead of a new enlisted GI.
@HansJuergBangerter
@HansJuergBangerter 4 ай бұрын
climbing vertical wall in the alps and rocks falling on your head you are happy your helmet is strapped tightly...also losing your helmet and ginmg to get it 2000 m metres down the mountain is quite challenge only once lost an ice pick falling 50 metres that was enough...
@Scarletraven87
@Scarletraven87 4 ай бұрын
No, it's a myth. Think about it: a nearby granade will injure you long before knocking off your helmet
@GraemePayne1967Marine
@GraemePayne1967Marine 4 ай бұрын
Not all things that go BOOM are hand grenades. Most things that go BOOM are much bigger than grenades and have a much stronger blast wave.
@Scarletraven87
@Scarletraven87 4 ай бұрын
@@GraemePayne1967Marine Thank you Cpt Obvious for your intervention. And so would proportionally increase the "blast off your helmet" radius. I used the hand granade example because it's the easiest to imagine for most people.
@Colby-yg7nj
@Colby-yg7nj 4 ай бұрын
You said it's a myth. But your comment doesn't back up that statement and his comment actually disproves the argument you tried to use. Lot of jargon in your response comment that does nothing for you
@dariusalexandru9536
@dariusalexandru9536 4 ай бұрын
@@Colby-yg7nj is a myth bro
@Colby-yg7nj
@Colby-yg7nj 4 ай бұрын
@@dariusalexandru9536 no it ain't bro
@RCrosbyLyles
@RCrosbyLyles 4 ай бұрын
My dad was in the 82nd airborne during the Korean war. He said the reason they didn't buckle the straps is because someone could grab your helmet pull it back and snap your neck. This was said to be a design flaw corrected in later models.
@freakyflow
@freakyflow 4 ай бұрын
Canadian Army on landing in Normandy Few wore the straps Knowing the training was to grab the helmet of the German front to back Forcing the German to fall back Stabbing him while doing this
@NRC308
@NRC308 3 ай бұрын
Or maybe because it would look corny to have them strapped
@alfop6405
@alfop6405 3 ай бұрын
Because not looking corny was definitely their priority
@joecat916
@joecat916 4 ай бұрын
I didn't know that... I used to work for a ww2 veteran who worked below decks loading guns on a battle ship, he said they wore head gear but when the guns fired he said that they opened their mouth because the concussion would "knock your teeth out"
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 4 ай бұрын
I heard that open mouths when firing artillery allowed the sound blast to hit both the inside and outside of your eardrums simultaneously so they’d be “fine” whereas if the sound only hit from the outside it’d burst your eardrums.
@jenniturtleburger3708
@jenniturtleburger3708 3 ай бұрын
It’s something to do with equalizing the pressure.
@jamesknowles658
@jamesknowles658 4 ай бұрын
We call them brainbuckets. You fill in the blanks. -Army 1999-2007
@CrazyBear65
@CrazyBear65 4 ай бұрын
My dad fought in WW2. May he RIP.
@battlebauble
@battlebauble 4 ай бұрын
My experience was that when shooting from the prone, it was damn difficult to get a good site picture. You had to cock your head to the side. The steel pots were damn uncomfortable. Great for a wash basin.
@stevecastro1325
@stevecastro1325 4 ай бұрын
That concern was real, but the risk was imagined. Any blast powerful to injure you by pulling the helmet off would give you massive internal injuries
@tjschakow
@tjschakow Ай бұрын
2004 baqubah, Iraq. In a vehicle on a patrol a MAJ named Shockley had his chin strap behind his helmet. The blast from the IED embedded the chinstrap into the back of his neck, but he had other more serious injuries that made the chin strap seem insignificant.
@wonderwaffle5858
@wonderwaffle5858 4 ай бұрын
i feel like if you get hit in the head that hard you're dead anyway. i'm pretty sure they did some studies and found that this basically never happened so the whole chinstrap thing was a big fad that didn't actually help
@user-et6pj4db9s
@user-et6pj4db9s 4 ай бұрын
It's done because it looks cool, that's the real reason, you look dorkier with the strap done up than hanging loose.
@chris.3711
@chris.3711 4 ай бұрын
It's uncomfortable, that was probably the driving force.
@user-et6pj4db9s
@user-et6pj4db9s 4 ай бұрын
@@chris.3711 if you're in the middle of conflict are you worried about a chin strap or getting shot in the head? Cos I duno about you but I'd be doing the bloody thing up to make sure my helmet didn't come off which it surely would in the thick of battle if it's not done up, war films are not an accurate guide to how many men did them up in reality. As I said they all do it to look cool. You can't go off films like this. And there's precious little actual conflict footage of WW2 which wasn't staged propoganda etc so we will never know the reality really.
@GraemePayne1967Marine
@GraemePayne1967Marine 4 ай бұрын
We did the same thing in Vietnam. For the same reason.
@fetchingcat4914
@fetchingcat4914 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. A real soldier that knows. Thank you for your service.
@bigmiddle
@bigmiddle 2 ай бұрын
As someone who wore both type of helmets (steel and Kevlar). I can confidently say the reason is comfort. The steel helmet weight was quite significant.
@LeviHenderson-mw7st
@LeviHenderson-mw7st 4 ай бұрын
Also the simple fact that when a bullet hits the helmet and the helmet is loose causing the bullet to bounce on lucky occasions was another reason
@erichoward6325
@erichoward6325 Ай бұрын
That famous movie just gets better and better as the insights are unfolded year after year.
@justincase5272
@justincase5272 4 ай бұрын
The OTHER reason: In hand-to-hand combat, a tightly secured helmet allows the enemy to grab your helmet, pulling your head with it, exposing your neck and SSSCCHHHH!
@andibaumgart
@andibaumgart 3 ай бұрын
The germans used a system to release the helmet when too much tension is occurring. Still today in german army, you’ll be called ‘American’ when having the chin-strap untied.
@bfpierce
@bfpierce 4 ай бұрын
I never thought Ted Danson fit in this movie very well.
@williewhite1161
@williewhite1161 4 ай бұрын
Interesting. With the exception of "Platoon"..."Saving Private Ryan" is the best war movie ever.
@sketchygetchey8299
@sketchygetchey8299 2 ай бұрын
So when I do it today, I get accused of trying to imitate John Wayne! 😂
@garysuarez9614
@garysuarez9614 4 ай бұрын
LoL, how many times did I hear a drill yell "Who do you think you are, John Wayne?" This brings back memories.
@ppumpkin3282
@ppumpkin3282 4 ай бұрын
When you are coming ashore at Normandy I would imagine having a helmet attached might not be a good thing if you fell in the water.
@carlostommybaggs5763
@carlostommybaggs5763 4 ай бұрын
Nope, it was just uncomfortable. Jumping off the side of a landing craft into the sea with the chin strap done up was thought to a bad idea and was said to lead to neck injury. In fact the whole practice was simply a bad idea. Soldiers who did this to avoid gun fire, often drowned in unexpectedly deap water under the weight of their kit.
@bkizers
@bkizers 4 ай бұрын
Give the Director kudos for that!
@Neutercane
@Neutercane 4 ай бұрын
When I was in the army (1990-1993), we always wore our helmets with the chin strap buttoned and as I recall, it wasn't a big deal.
@Pershingthunder
@Pershingthunder 2 ай бұрын
This is correct as the helmets had nothing of what we have today they are just steel helmets and even commanders said to not buckle them, another fact is soldiers used these helmets to cook food even though commanders said not to
@dominiquecharriere1285
@dominiquecharriere1285 4 ай бұрын
I used one of these heavy helmets in the french army in the 90s, you can go with the chin strap free if you are not going to move a lot but once you're on the move the helmet hardly maintains itself, you need to strap it well or maintain it with one hand (providing you carry a light weapon or nothing). The thing was crazy heavy anyway.
@billyfivefive.
@billyfivefive. 4 ай бұрын
My Grandad was an MP in Glasgow along the Clyde during the Blitz he found a young sailor who'd been on guard close to a blast with this very injury, head split open by his helmet due to the fastened strap
@makerspace533
@makerspace533 3 ай бұрын
If you end up in a one on one fight, the helmet is a great thing to grab on your opponent. If the strap is not fastened, all he will grab is the helmet, not your head.
@pierrechildress8875
@pierrechildress8875 3 ай бұрын
The main problem I had w helmet straps was 1) they (or the helmet itself) would constantly get snagged on sh*t or just shift weird in action, which would lead to problem 2) they could block your vision and you lose time + use of your hands re-adjusting it in a tight situation. I wasn't a soldier, but a FF from a very busy department. IMO, it was better to lose the f*king thing, get to where you need to be uninterrupted, handle your business, then find it later. If it's your turn to die, that helmet don't mean sh*t anyways.
@ericcorse
@ericcorse 4 ай бұрын
My dad always said that is why he didn't wear the chin strap, he was in the 29 infantry division.
@smartacus88
@smartacus88 4 ай бұрын
The M1 helmet is still a good and serviceable helmet even today. There are much worse designs to have on your noggin if you're going in harms way, and some of those are more "modern" than the M1. There's no such thing as a truly "bulletproof" helmet, at least not one thats fielded by a large army. The point of the helmet has always been to protect your head from flying debris and hard knocks, and the M1 still does that very well.
@strangfangers
@strangfangers 4 ай бұрын
Yes, it was a real concern of old-school WWII, Korean & Viet Nam vets that I had the honor to train/serve under and with, mainly because it gives a point of control/leverage during hand-to-hand situations!
@Gonken88
@Gonken88 4 ай бұрын
Nah, the chinstraps were ripped by the airblast on paratroopers, and Spoilberg thought everyone had them like that.
@johnnyhorizon8368
@johnnyhorizon8368 4 ай бұрын
Oddly enough in the 1970 movie “Kelly’s Hero’s” (C Eastwood, D Sutherland, T Savalas & others), they wore their chin straps under their chins.
@BEV_shorts
@BEV_shorts 3 ай бұрын
can confirm I wore a motorbike helmet on the motorway and with extreme winds it was blown off my head and was choking me; the very thing meant to save my life was in those moments trying to take it...
@sjbr101
@sjbr101 4 ай бұрын
Yet on the beach scene they placed every single beach defence cross backwards.....
@michaelmisiaszek2514
@michaelmisiaszek2514 Ай бұрын
I remember reading a WWII themed "comic" book in the mid 1970's called Sgt Rock where a noob was on point and suddenly deliberately and obviously fastened the chin strap and the Sgt noticed and somehow knew it was a signal of an enemy ambush the point man discovered but couldn't point to.
@krakrtreacysr907
@krakrtreacysr907 4 ай бұрын
Jenny taught me how to read and I taught her how to dangle
@wotaddictglobal
@wotaddictglobal 4 ай бұрын
wow amazing detail! Thank you for sharing this knowledge with us :)
@lukejackson1575
@lukejackson1575 4 ай бұрын
One reason is comfort, another reason is neck injuries caused by shrapnel hitting your helmet and wrenching your neck sideways. The current war in Europe has taught this lesson.
@keech100
@keech100 4 ай бұрын
We all know a strap amplifies blast waves... It's why your better off defusing a bomb stark naked
@michaeldillery9232
@michaeldillery9232 4 ай бұрын
We didn't wear chin straps because they are uncomfortable.Never saw anyone wear a chinstrap unless you were jumping out of a plane.
@nicoldavis-johnson7080
@nicoldavis-johnson7080 4 ай бұрын
Interesting information.
@user-fc2qf8up3e
@user-fc2qf8up3e 4 ай бұрын
Saved my brother’s life in the Navy. He had to jump on one boat to another, with his headgear on connected by a cable, big wave came and ripped the gear off. Could have taken his head with it, too, had it been strapped.
@scottjoseph9578
@scottjoseph9578 4 ай бұрын
Patton allowed this, as well.
@sergeantpeppers8858
@sergeantpeppers8858 4 ай бұрын
Every movie about WWII ever made had the "soldiers" not fastening their chinstrap around their chins. So why is it such a big deal because Spielberg made a movie showing the exact same thing?
@joed1950
@joed1950 4 ай бұрын
Perhaps just on a break you could unbuckle but if you were running or moving around your strap was buckled or your helmet would fall off.
@ianbrooks4516
@ianbrooks4516 3 ай бұрын
Firefighters do this with their helmets at water rescues incase the water prevents them resurfacing by acting like a parachute
@Devilinabag
@Devilinabag 4 ай бұрын
This makes me think of another sort of superstition. The weight saving. You hear a lot of people say it but I never saw a ww2 vet say it till a few years ago when i saw an interview with one and he said "we cut the toothbrushes to fit them into smaller pockets so we could carry more ammo. It had nothing to do with weight." Im sure it came from somewhere, but i must say i never saw it come from someone who actually fought. Could just be me tho.
@craigmurrayauthor
@craigmurrayauthor 4 ай бұрын
it was an urban legend at the time, soldiers believed it, there was no proof and it was eventually disproven
@lukescanlon6883
@lukescanlon6883 3 ай бұрын
Same as construction. Windy days above ground level
@alderoth01
@alderoth01 4 ай бұрын
While I was in the Infantry 2003 to 2009 I never once heard that a helmet could be "wrenched" so hard from an explosion it would break your neck. I had a Kpot and a Mitch. This doesn't sound right to me.
@dallasyap3064
@dallasyap3064 4 ай бұрын
If the blast wave is near and strong enough to send the helmet flying, it'd definitely have the force to kill or injure u (head/neck) whether u are strapping it or not. I think the reason is like others mentioned, uncomfortable.
@sammcrae8892
@sammcrae8892 4 ай бұрын
I was wearing a full face motorcycle helmet, strapped tight, when I was hit from the side and flipped over three times -- sideways. My helmet flew off coming up for the second round and It flew over a hundred feet away. I never felt it go. 🙏✝️🙏 God is good!
@stanleybest8833
@stanleybest8833 3 ай бұрын
Older bicycle safety helmets had similar problems as the sharp klunky strap buckle could cut your neck or face. Ultimately, bike helmets drew so much attention away from missing front brakes, that they indirectly did more harm than good.
@LukasSimmonds-ch3ms
@LukasSimmonds-ch3ms 4 ай бұрын
The first time I ever noticed they did that, I was a kid. I reasoned to myself and came up with the exact same reason why. In a blast, they wanted the helmet to fly off instead of breaking their necks...coming across this video years later, it makes me realise how dumb we are becoming. Something any kid could figure out now needs to be explained to full grown adults in a youtube short.
@1lthrnk
@1lthrnk 4 ай бұрын
Even today the only time you’ll see the helmets strapped would be because a colonel or higher ranked officer is coming by
@robertturley2974
@robertturley2974 4 ай бұрын
If you are close enough that the force of your helmet being ripped off your head is enough to snap your neck, your neck is already snapped regardless I'm going to take a wild guess and say it was uncomfortable and so they didn't want to wear it
@jamesdotson3640
@jamesdotson3640 2 ай бұрын
Because they all thought they were John Wayne duh haven't you been in the military?
@nohabloemojislosiento4930
@nohabloemojislosiento4930 4 ай бұрын
I wear helmets at work similarly designed but hard plastic and not for combat purposes. We don’t use the chinstraps for the completely reasonable idea that we don’t want to look like dickheads. Gotta strap up in helicopters, but other than that. Also way more comfortable.
@Arltratlo
@Arltratlo 4 ай бұрын
our helmets had 2 fastners, one closed for marching training... the other open, to loss the helmet if its forced off your head...
@sunseeker8457
@sunseeker8457 4 ай бұрын
It's not JUST this film. 99% of US WWII films do this!
@wilburcollins8342
@wilburcollins8342 4 ай бұрын
In 68 they had a ball on one side and fork on other so it would go off easily
@brianrad68
@brianrad68 4 ай бұрын
Historian Stephen Ambrose was a stickler for details.
@The67wheelman
@The67wheelman 4 ай бұрын
Don’t they teach soldiers to attack from behind by grabbing the front of the helmet and pulling back exposing or breaking the neck with the attached strap?
@RovingRoninEDC
@RovingRoninEDC 4 ай бұрын
That’s why the strap system is so different if your ever wore a K Pot
@androidken
@androidken 4 ай бұрын
At least they wore helmets in the movie unlike so many other movies or TV shows. Soldiers and Police almost never wear them in those shows. So unrealistic.
@choppergirl
@choppergirl 4 ай бұрын
I call bad reasoning, because a motorcyclist would not dare leave their chin strap undone for fear of the weight of their helmet violently thrown about.... snapping their head back in a crash... or other reasons. I think most of them were just lazy and thought the chin strap effeminite.
@alexadamson9959
@alexadamson9959 4 ай бұрын
But the same amount of force would hit your head, thus causing severe neck injuries regardless. So if that’s the reason, it’s literally pointless.
@macvena
@macvena 4 ай бұрын
The fact that they are hideously uncomfortable wouldn't be a factor.
@nolifemerc3824
@nolifemerc3824 4 ай бұрын
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@therationalistparty9742
@therationalistparty9742 4 ай бұрын
No no we just dont wear chin straps because it keeps you from getting chin rash especially after trying to wear the thing after shaving dry.
@BillBraskyy
@BillBraskyy 4 ай бұрын
Ahhh yes yes, is that you John Wayne? Is this ME??
@griffindr666
@griffindr666 4 ай бұрын
This makes sense whenever I play Sniper Elite and if I don't shoot it right German helmets just bounce off without causing any harm to the soldier so yeah pretty neat they included this in the movie
@chris.3711
@chris.3711 4 ай бұрын
That helmet would never deflect a shot head on.
@DOSRetroGamer
@DOSRetroGamer Ай бұрын
If it's so realistic, why don't they show a single soldier who lost his helmet? You would assume half of them were looking for it after some intense battlefield action
@frankjames4743
@frankjames4743 4 ай бұрын
The real reason the actors in Saving Private Ryan didn't wear their chin strip properly is so they can say their lines without hindrance
@billykidd5658
@billykidd5658 Ай бұрын
Yes and I tried to tell that to the Army when I see him you keep that chin strap down and tight what about concussion what about snapping your neck or you don't care uniformity keep it tight
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