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Why Spacers don't work with Nissan Frontier, Xterra and Pathfinder

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Alldogs Offroad Coop

Alldogs Offroad Coop

Жыл бұрын

Howdy!!
In this video we explain and show how spacers can be the cause of coil bucket contact and how to avoid the issue. Here at ADO we try to keep you informed as much as possible when it comes to lifting your Nissan or Toyota!
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@mikewchandler
@mikewchandler Жыл бұрын
Great video. It keeps me from asking even more annoying questions....and from making costly mistakes!
@MichaelMartin-rw5fi
@MichaelMartin-rw5fi 7 ай бұрын
I had a 2wd frontier that I installed a RC 2.5in lift kit for a little extra ground clearance. For some practical purposes it was fine. I just swapped it for a pro 4x and will be shopping with you guys very soon. This video was very professional and straight to the point.
@BuhdFrankDaTank93
@BuhdFrankDaTank93 3 ай бұрын
Did you have the kit that included shocks ??
@Berghemrrader
@Berghemrrader 4 ай бұрын
As a "Nissan Navara" owner (i'm living in Italy) I really appreciate this useful information.
@dn2610
@dn2610 Жыл бұрын
Awesome information on spacers vs proper coilover lifts and UCA'S. Will be getting a 2023 Frontier Pro4x soon and will be lifting it. Thanks for sharing! 👍
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 Жыл бұрын
Nissan makes nice vehicles but they don’t get the love they deserve.
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
We're a little biased :)
@jaketruman6816
@jaketruman6816 Жыл бұрын
Ain't nothing a titan swapped frontier or Xterra can't roll over 😎
@dyip32
@dyip32 Жыл бұрын
I, for one, am happy for a biased co-op as yourselves 🥰
@Cj1985_GT
@Cj1985_GT 9 ай бұрын
The 05-15 Xterra, 05-15 Pathfinder and the 05-20 Frontier are some of the most kick ass Nissans ever built. I just wish Nissan had admitted fault in the S.M.O.D Transmission Failures and just bit the bullet. They wouldve retained so many buyers because of confidence in the brand. Instead, they left tens of thousands of people with $30,000 Yard Ornaments. Too bad. I love the VQ40DE, the RE5R05A and all 3 vehicles theyre put in. I am currently rebuilding a VQ40 because previous owner neglected maintenance, resulting in SLUDGE and OIL CARBON BUILDUP that ruined the rings, timing components and rod/main bearings. Ive done timing jobs on both (really simple job) and the Xterra has 330,000 miles and uses oil. So when i rebuild the engine that came out of my 06 Pathfinder, it will go to the Xterra. Then ill rebuild the one that came out. And ill have a spare VQ40. I just love and adore these motors. A truly spectacular machine.
@Jaylakhaili
@Jaylakhaili Ай бұрын
They make em hard to modify
@MattMartin4
@MattMartin4 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Literally put my Pathfinder 2005 R51 in the garage yesterday to get new struts/shocks installed along with a spacer lift kit - figured it would be a fun update. This video popped up while my Pathfinder was at the garage yesterday and behold now that my R51 is lifted I'm getting a small knock from the front over bumps. I watched countless videos about lifts on the R51 and I swear not one of those videos mentioned the control arm issue. Now trying to find an upper control arm thats gonna work for me.
@thesurfingprospector6345
@thesurfingprospector6345 Жыл бұрын
Yes me too dam it
@evangagnon385
@evangagnon385 Жыл бұрын
You guys have any luck finding a control arm?
@iandjmartinez8406
@iandjmartinez8406 Жыл бұрын
Titan swap
@jamesdg8190
@jamesdg8190 Жыл бұрын
SPC control arm
@Mike.D.843
@Mike.D.843 11 ай бұрын
Get SPC. When I lifted my Xterra Rock Auto was selling the SPC arms under the memo tech supreme name. It looks like they have them listed as Dorman now. Look for the adjustable ones. The pictures show SPC arms. Best price I've seen on them. They will work, but you might have to trim the lip of the coil bucket slightly to clear the SPC ball joint.
@Will-kc7rx
@Will-kc7rx 7 ай бұрын
One of the many reasons that I follow this channel, there's making modifications to your vehicle and then there's modifying your vehicle correctly.
@ericpowers2469
@ericpowers2469 Жыл бұрын
‘15 Frontier SV: OME struts (medium springs) @ 1.5” with 2” top spacer, SPC UCA, 65k miles with zero issues.
@bernardberben4852
@bernardberben4852 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I was just about to buy a 2.5in spacer. Not anymore.
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
Glad we could help.
@cakemasterflex69
@cakemasterflex69 Жыл бұрын
One of the best informative videos ive seen yet.
@SA-hk8xj
@SA-hk8xj Жыл бұрын
Great video. Enjoy the visual presentation and explanation. Would hv been even better if you showed your RC Killa kit and it installed so we could see. Either way, good job 👍
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
We have a RCKilla kit install video.
@egresk1
@egresk1 Жыл бұрын
I think that Bilstein you used in this video is slightly longer than stock because I have a .5 inch spacer which gives a 1 inch lift on my 21 Frontier and there is zero coil bucket contact. Its close at full droop but It rides great. Great video with explanation.
@carlgonzalez5789
@carlgonzalez5789 2 ай бұрын
100
@TVCColin
@TVCColin Жыл бұрын
Good video. I am going to get a set for my 2022 Frontier. I have been running the RC 2.5 spacer for about 8k miles and get CBC on one specific bump. I have taken it off-road on some pretty sketchy shale mountain trails in Virginia and never actually experienced it while on the trail. So far I’ve been happy with it but eventually want to get a real lift kit for it but for now the spacers are ok. Thanks for the informational video!
@daywalker4029
@daywalker4029 Жыл бұрын
If you were to look at your coil buckets, I guarantee paint is missing from them hitting a lot since you take it off road. Just because you don’t hear it, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening
@TVCColin
@TVCColin Жыл бұрын
@@daywalker4029 I’m mainly talking about the violent clunk you get. I’m sure it is but at such low speeds it’s not as noticeable.
@mtnbound2764
@mtnbound2764 Жыл бұрын
@@TVCColin yeah i have 2" spacers and its fine unless you really go fast over large holes/ drop offs.
@DB1Journeys
@DB1Journeys Жыл бұрын
I got the mild 1.5" spacers for my 2023 Frontier. Haven't installed them yet. Do you think I'll have issues with the 1.5"?
@chatnavz
@chatnavz Жыл бұрын
Its been in forum or fb but you guys explained it very well here in KZfaq lol. Nice
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
People on the regular still deny having CBC while running a spacer and factory arm. Gotta get the word out every way we can!
@GregPiercey
@GregPiercey Жыл бұрын
Nice video! I’m curious if anyone has ever talked to a Nissan design engineer (probably long since retired given how long this platform has been around) and asked what the rationale was for the UCA design selection was. Given that it is different than virtually all other similar trucks like you mention, I wonder what the perceived benefits of this arrangement was.
@daywalker4029
@daywalker4029 Жыл бұрын
From an engineer’s standpoint, the design works as it should. Engineers don’t design parts with modifications like lift kits in mind.
@mtnbound2764
@mtnbound2764 Жыл бұрын
@@daywalker4029 true, but it doesnt answer the question, why did they decide to do it differently than the commonly used solution?
@daywalker4029
@daywalker4029 Жыл бұрын
@@mtnbound2764 not my question to answer. would have to ask an engineer. they're still using them now so they must assume it's still fine. they've had 16 years to change it and haven't.
@PreparedOverlander
@PreparedOverlander 9 ай бұрын
@@daywalker4029So they are still using this same design on the 2023 and 2024 trucks?
@daywalker4029
@daywalker4029 9 ай бұрын
@@PreparedOverlander yes. the suspension is unchanged from 2005 essentially
@thedude828-ed2nn
@thedude828-ed2nn 7 ай бұрын
I was gonna do a RC lift mostly for looks but i do have to go off-road quite a bit where I live. Luckily i did some research and decided to do it the right way i just decided to spend the money on the ado koni lift and got the ado uca's i havent got it yet just ordered it 2 days ago but i feel confident i made a better decision.
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop 7 ай бұрын
For sure! Good choice :)
@thedude828-ed2nn
@thedude828-ed2nn 7 ай бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop thanks you guys have been good to work with you always answer all my questions in the chat and I appreciate it!
@sti_xterra
@sti_xterra Жыл бұрын
Great video. This was very insightful. I just received my Fox shocks lift kit from you for my 2014 Xterra. I have the z1 control arms. I am looking forward to get upgraded suspension and lift it!! ❤🔥video!
@ferdysr
@ferdysr Жыл бұрын
Thanks for saving me the problem. I own a nissan Navara/frontier ..
@jakehiggins5118
@jakehiggins5118 Жыл бұрын
I did a 2 inch spacer with a bump stop on the UCA to minimize the noise and impact of CBC and it helps a ton. I also got a longer bump stop for the LCA so I don't damage the shock. I don't off road at all so a spacer makes sense for me and I don't get any CBC with daily driving except for when I go up my in laws gravel driveway with massive pot holes I only get CBC sometimes so it's actually not that bad for what I use my truck for. If I was off roading with it a lot then I would probably get your lift coils but for my needs a spacer works pretty well. I might end up getting the pre assembled bilstein 5100's with the lift coils just because I want to match the rear shocks I installed with your guy's AAL kit haha
@A.lowkee.savage
@A.lowkee.savage 10 ай бұрын
So you still here the CDC but just at a lower volume correct?
@X_venturee
@X_venturee Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Makes a lot of sense to not run those big spacers. Even with aftermarket UCA, it’s still not recommended to run spacers because of the LCA ball joint bind?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
Correct - depending on height. Past 2.5" is where you can really start to notice it.
@anthonylimjoco5958
@anthonylimjoco5958 Жыл бұрын
I do full blown fab work on Nissans. Way better to cut out all that stuff and weld on two tabs to install coil overs. Out here it only cost $300 for labor and materials to do that. Unlocks all the possibilities available for Nissans with coil overs
@uonadtehrrocks
@uonadtehrrocks Жыл бұрын
I mean if more people made shock/spring combos or coilovers made to lift people wouldn't go to spacers but most options are stock height unless you add a spacer and or lift with spring preload. You are either dealing with coil bucket contact and getting UCA's or dealing with a rough ride and shock top out...
@Mike.D.843
@Mike.D.843 11 ай бұрын
Spacer or not, CBC will be a problem with lift. It doesn't matter how the lift is achieved, the control arm will still run closer to the coil bucket once the ride height is lifted. The only sure way to avoid CBC is to go with aftermarket UCAs. I am running PRG 1.5" lift spacers on my Xterra (which almost everyone told me would not cause CBC) and had CBC with the stock UCAs. I upgraded to SPC UCAs and no more problems. Now if I could just keep the darned cam bolts from throwing off the alignment after hitting a pothole, or rough trail, and if I could get an alignment shop locally to do a decent alignment! Lifted problems....
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop 11 ай бұрын
we have a cam bolt lockout kit that works great with the SPC UCA's that will stop your alignment from slipping at the LCA
@dahatchery
@dahatchery 5 күн бұрын
Could you buy a longer ball joint?
@SteveDeering-m6d
@SteveDeering-m6d Ай бұрын
At full droop you will have contact either way correct? Longer coil or spacer will reduce the space between the UCA and coil bucket. I’m not denying coil lift is better than a spacer, I just don’t see how you avoid contact any less. Full droop is full droop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Ай бұрын
the only way to get CBC with a coilover is if it's longer than a stock travel coilover like a 5100. our fox extended travel kits cause CBC because of the actual physical length.
@jimmyhiggins4
@jimmyhiggins4 Жыл бұрын
Good video. I have not looked at my Gen3 suspension to much, but just received my 1/2” spacers. How much spacer can you add before the shock acts as the bump stop?
@bryandoherty9399
@bryandoherty9399 Жыл бұрын
So with the RC Killa lift you won't have any CBC even with the stock UCA?
@mitchellcastricone1344
@mitchellcastricone1344 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, now I'm not going to buy spacers and UCAs! Do you sell just the coils for the RCkilla? I already have the rear lifted. Thanks!
@bryansmith4348
@bryansmith4348 5 ай бұрын
Does the same issue happen with the Bilstein 5100s (like stock Pro4X) when you adjust the collar up to give 2" of lift?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop 5 ай бұрын
no. adding a spacer on top of the coilover physically lengthens the entire piece and that is what causes CBC
@bryansmith1237
@bryansmith1237 5 ай бұрын
Great thanks.
@dahatchery
@dahatchery Ай бұрын
Could you install a Titan upper control arm that way you get clearance for the strut spacers?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Ай бұрын
no, the titan arm is longer. also the titan arm has less clearance than a factory frontier/xterra arm. titan's experience CBC at 1.5" of lift.
@JamesFoster-ft1ci
@JamesFoster-ft1ci 2 ай бұрын
Hey. Thanks for the info. I have a 2014 pathfinder platinum. I'm looking for a 2" - 2 1/2" lift kit. Do you have a recommendation from your brand? Part #s and/or link would be great.
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop 2 ай бұрын
We have two options. Dobinsons or OME. There isn't much available for the Pathfinders unfortunately.
@DDDYLN
@DDDYLN Жыл бұрын
I guess I got lucky. I have a 2011 AT Pro-4X. I have a 2" spacer in the front, and an add-a-leaf in the back. I have zero coil bucket contact issues over like 5 years. Eventually I'd like to Titan Swap with better UCAs. But, I have to get my eyes fixed first, which will be out of pocket. As much as I want to mod my X, my eyes are more important!
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
i would assume if you look at your coil buckets, you have marks from CBC
@DDDYLN
@DDDYLN Жыл бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop I did. Nothing.
@myYear66
@myYear66 Ай бұрын
So is that why people do the titan swap??
@boss13hoss
@boss13hoss 4 ай бұрын
I have a 2017 frontier sv. I'm going to put a RC 6in lift. Will I have this same problem?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop 4 ай бұрын
Its possible for sure
@dlansburg2673
@dlansburg2673 Жыл бұрын
Do you guy do installs
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
Sure! Just have to call the shop and arrange something :)
@mtnbound2764
@mtnbound2764 Жыл бұрын
while you guys arent necessarily wrong.. the CBC issue gets overblown. ive been running 2" spacers on my Xterra for years. its fine. cbc is only an issue if you are going too fast.
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
it's not overblown. there's many cases of the upper control arm separating and causing major failure.
@mtnbound2764
@mtnbound2764 Жыл бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop well, thats just my opinnion based on my experience, regardless, I love what you guys are doing for the nissan community and I hope to one day upgrade to a lift from you guys.
@A.lowkee.savage
@A.lowkee.savage 10 ай бұрын
Have you ever used bump tops to reduce the CDC noise?
@mtnbound2764
@mtnbound2764 10 ай бұрын
@@A.lowkee.savage i have bump stops on the up and lower control arms, it helps reduce the impact, but its not really a fix.
@sendapez
@sendapez 5 ай бұрын
Should’ve provided a direct link to your leveling kit
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop 5 ай бұрын
lol top secret
@CarlKahler
@CarlKahler Жыл бұрын
Um this didn't happen on my 2009 frontier I lifted 2in.
@Kaatu-barada-nikto
@Kaatu-barada-nikto Жыл бұрын
The education is much appreciated
@Rokza72
@Rokza72 5 ай бұрын
I want to do a 2" lift on my 99 pathfinder SE. What is your recommendation? Which lift kit do you advise me to get.
@chris74ify
@chris74ify Ай бұрын
I was looking at bilstien for my 2014 x as a lift ...no spacers I don't do any thing crazy with it just medium level difficult trails...would it be a good choice for more lift and quality?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Ай бұрын
it will work for that
@jcrows6627
@jcrows6627 Жыл бұрын
Well, I can tell folks that your control arms do not prevent CBC with RC 2.5'" struts. I still had to trim to get rid of the contact.
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
in rare circumstances, the edge of the bucket may have to be trimmed to clear the ball joint cup. it's very rare though.
@DDDYLN
@DDDYLN Жыл бұрын
Do you have the Rough Country UCAs? Apparently they're great UCAs for an inexpensive price. I'm talking about the RC Titan Swap UCAs though. I don't know much about their regular length UCAs, but I imagine they're decent.
@moomooclark7987
@moomooclark7987 3 ай бұрын
wow you just saved me a lot of bs ...will be ordering the goods soon...🤩🤩🤩
@guillaumeparkour2
@guillaumeparkour2 Жыл бұрын
so if i understood me i already put an rc lift seal if i but Offroad High Clearance Upper Control Arms my problem should be solved?
@uonadtehrrocks
@uonadtehrrocks Жыл бұрын
So you mention 5100's are slightly longer than 4600's. Do they have more travel then? Are 6112's the same?
@noprefixamerican4743
@noprefixamerican4743 Жыл бұрын
a large spacer may create lower ball joint bind at full drop, because as you stated a spacer moves the strut assembly lower which allows the LCA to drop more, a lift coil will raise the truck but keeps the drop of the LCA relatively the same as stock, but will reduce down travel, the LCA with load on it will be in the same exact spot at 3" of lift no matter what parts are used to get that 3" of lift, right?
@christheguy5554
@christheguy5554 Жыл бұрын
Spacers should never ever be run period. Buy new longer springs and shocks or at the very least a shock with an adjustable spring perch like a bilstien 5100. Spacers actually limit flex but on the flip side allows you to run larger tires for the ultimate mall crawler.
@kolbyrowland1197
@kolbyrowland1197 3 ай бұрын
So, to be clear: I am looking to achieve modest lift while preventing coil bucket contact. By getting a coilover lift, say with the Bilstein 5100 adjustable shocks set at 2” of lift, I will avoid CBC? I currently have the RC 2.5” spacers and they knock constantly.
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop 3 ай бұрын
correct. a 2" lift with Bilstein doesn't effect the overall length of the shock like a spacer.
@kolbyrowland1197
@kolbyrowland1197 3 ай бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoopsick thank you! I appreciate yall!
@bribri1657
@bribri1657 Жыл бұрын
What exactly would I need to order to get a 3-inch suspension lift all around with no CBC? One of those Bilstein coilover kits and upper control arms?
@DDDYLN
@DDDYLN Жыл бұрын
Does anyone gave experience with those new Z1 Titan Swap UCAs? They look interesting, in that there are do many adjustments for aligning the front end. However, sometimes more afjustable parts cab be a bad thing, if they're not done properly. Id gate to put them on, only to gave to re-align my vehicle every 6 months.
@nathanpeduzzi9377
@nathanpeduzzi9377 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2023 Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek. I would like to do a lift and I can't seem to find anything. What do you recommend for the new 5th gen?
@mattacedo
@mattacedo Жыл бұрын
Can’t find shit for my 2015 either
@beardumaw24
@beardumaw24 9 ай бұрын
That's because new pathfinders are soccer mom mall crawlers, thank Nissan. Lol
@paulauksztulewicz4803
@paulauksztulewicz4803 Ай бұрын
Where are you located?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Ай бұрын
Lincoln, NE
@wFullSnakeOilHighMileageSynthe
@wFullSnakeOilHighMileageSynthe 7 ай бұрын
Do the NISMO spacers work on the latest Pro-4X?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop 7 ай бұрын
Not sure... We don't condone spacer kits either.
@A.lowkee.savage
@A.lowkee.savage 10 ай бұрын
Does anyone know if adding bump stops to a 2” spacer lift will stop CDC?
@simplygreat1883
@simplygreat1883 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video!!
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Yipping_Yeti
@Yipping_Yeti Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on regearing a 2nd Gen Xterra pro-4x with 33x12.5x16 tires/wheels? Leave stock, change to 4.56?
@chatnavz
@chatnavz Жыл бұрын
Nee need if your running 33s. If your running 35s you need to regear
@daywalker4029
@daywalker4029 Жыл бұрын
if you have a manual transmission then 4.56s work, 4.10s if you're x has an auto
@jaydendyck1284
@jaydendyck1284 Жыл бұрын
Can we get a video of the RcKilla install and how it works to prevent this? Also with the 5100 shock and rckilla kit would it be comparable to a half inch spacer’s gap to the control arm?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
This video here is an rckilla install - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aqp7qLJy3L-7hac.html Yes, the 5100 would be very similar in clearance to the half inch spacer. It's about .2" longer than the 4600.
@MegaLitterbox
@MegaLitterbox Жыл бұрын
So what is the worst thing that can happen with coil bucket contact? Both repeated contact and a strong impact?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
The factory arm is stamped sheet metal and is most commonly known to break in half. We've also seen ball joints ripped out of the socket, but this is less common.
@dopey-tbh3156
@dopey-tbh3156 Жыл бұрын
how can i safely widen the stance of my frontier without spacers???
@unitcharles689
@unitcharles689 Жыл бұрын
If you want to advertise your product. Why not put a link in the description. I have been aware of coil bucket contact. But i have yet to see a video with the proper control arm.
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
A video like this one? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f9R1pKthmZ3Hc30.html
@unitcharles689
@unitcharles689 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Will check em out
@jdmoore988
@jdmoore988 Жыл бұрын
Just curious what the max tire size is with the RCKilla lift. Definitely getting one now tho
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
most people run the 285 size tire so 285/75/16 or 285/70/17
@dahatchery
@dahatchery Жыл бұрын
I was going to do a 2.5 leveling kit to my 2016 desert runner, then add a titan swap. The Titan has bigger upper and lower control arms. Will the 2.5 spacer work with what I want to do?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
you need more than just upper and lower control arms to titan swap, but no you cannot run a spacer and make it work. it requires a dedicated length coilover
@DP-wi6hm
@DP-wi6hm 3 ай бұрын
excellent info video !!!
@AkaBull
@AkaBull 9 ай бұрын
Guy please update your video description. You have zero links either to your Website or Facebook.
@ryankinkade4246
@ryankinkade4246 Жыл бұрын
On a 22' Frontier, can i run the RCKilla with your 1/4" spacers and not get cbc without new UCAs? I will be using the factory shocks. This a 2×4 that wont be seeing any offroading other than the occasional dirt road. Thanks.
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
With factory shocks you should not experience cbc. If you used 5100's up front with the spacer plate you would. Keep in mind if you change your shocks down the road for 5100's you'd need high clearance uca's too. :)
@ryankinkade4246
@ryankinkade4246 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the quick response.
@papapear4954
@papapear4954 Жыл бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop Why is there no CBC with the RCKilla lift which is 2" but there is CBC with a 2" spacer lift?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
@@papapear4954 the video explains why but when you use a spacer, it physically lengthens the shock assembly. a lift spring does not
@waynejohnston4648
@waynejohnston4648 4 ай бұрын
Do yiu guys ship? I'm in South Africa
@MeliorIlle
@MeliorIlle Жыл бұрын
What about just a quarter or half inch with your UCAs? Surely that should be okay?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
Correct, if you run a high clearance aftermarket UCA you should clear
@MeliorIlle
@MeliorIlle Жыл бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop I have your 2 and a half inch lift kit already and I just want another 1.2 inch on the front, so I am guessing my next upgrade would be your spacer and UCA. Thanks.
@EmmanuelGonzalez-ol8du
@EmmanuelGonzalez-ol8du 8 ай бұрын
So basically just switch out your full front suspension which is control arms, strut assembly, ball joints, tie rods, and sway bar links
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop 8 ай бұрын
huh? a simple high clearance UCA takes care of CBC with spacers. no need to replace everything else. nothing needs replaced if you run a traditional spring lift.
@RaRa-dk4cp
@RaRa-dk4cp Жыл бұрын
I'm running spacers right but have been wanting to get rid of it and upgrade. By my wallet doesn't allow for big upgrade. So what do you guys recommend instead of spacers that doesn't break the wallet
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
Aftermarket UCAs to start. We have some that would clear the coil bucket as seen in the video.
@RaRa-dk4cp
@RaRa-dk4cp Жыл бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop so I can keep my spacers? Will those UCA work for sure suspension change?
@nataliaandetienne8221
@nataliaandetienne8221 8 ай бұрын
Where can i find this upper arm in the UAE dubai??
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop 8 ай бұрын
you will only find them here. you can use a freight forwarder to order a pair and have the company ship them to you.
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 Жыл бұрын
Do you sell tshirts? As a Nissan owner I would like to rock a shirt. Free advertisement in PA wherever I go. I plan on purchasing a New PRO-4X between June & December 2023. My lease is ending in December 2023 for my 2022 PRO-4X. I plan on upgrading the the truck for off grid camping. See you soon.
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
We got swag!
@soyyoflacko6169
@soyyoflacko6169 Жыл бұрын
I have 1/2 spacers on my Nissan Frontier 2007 and never gave me problems
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
1/2 may not cause issues but any spacer over 1" will cause CBC. no truck is immune to it after 1"
@edgarinv
@edgarinv Жыл бұрын
Do you offer those upper arms for a Titan Swap ?? Thanks.
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
we will soon!
@nicholasrapose196
@nicholasrapose196 Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the ADO UCAs for my 2013 xterra if I just ordered some Bilstein 6112s strut & spring pre-assembled from shocksurplus? I had shocksurplus pre-assemble them to the max height which is supposedly 1.6" of lift. I used to have the rancho quicklifts but they blew out after only a year. I don't know if I necessarily need new UCAs but my truck is 10 years old now and I'd imagine it wouldn't hurt so I had my eyes on the ADO UCAs. Also, do they have a grease fitting?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
they wouldn't be necessary from a coil bucket contact standpoint since you aren't reaching the length to cause it with the 6112s. they will help with alignment though as they have additional caster built into them. we use moog ball joints that do come with a grease zerk.
@nicholasrapose196
@nicholasrapose196 Жыл бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop awesome. Thanks for the reply. Probably going to get them anyway.
@terryaming9580
@terryaming9580 6 күн бұрын
But aren't there extended ball joints?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop 12 сағат бұрын
extended ball joints are a bandaid fix.
@terryaming9580
@terryaming9580 9 сағат бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop can you explain?
@bellcranell7650
@bellcranell7650 Жыл бұрын
Do the xterra and Pathfinder have the same suspension as the Frontier? Wgy doesn't work on this vehicles but it does on the Frontier
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
They’re all identical. Companies will say they won’t fit because they never tested them on the vehicle.
@mattacedo
@mattacedo Жыл бұрын
Would the RC kill a kit for 2015 frontier work on 2015 pathfinder ?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
@@mattacedo no, it would not
@jessefenner8673
@jessefenner8673 Жыл бұрын
So I’ve got a 13 sv 2wd I got suspension from a pro4x stock would I be able to run a rough country leveling kit on it with no cbc
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
No. The spacer we used in the video was a rough country spacer. You will get it just as much as any other Nissan.
@jessefenner8673
@jessefenner8673 Жыл бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop so how can I get this shit leveled without it
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
@@jessefenner8673 a lift coilover will get you the height you need without causing CBC. also if you plan on using the truck as a truck at any time, leveling will just leave you nose high if you put anything in the bed. rake is a functional piece to a suspension
@jaredhayward2323
@jaredhayward2323 Жыл бұрын
I've seen people do the spacers on these and when they do they swap the struts left to right, would that prevent or help with the CBC?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
there is no way around CBC with spacers. no magic tricks that can make it go away haha. coilovers are the same regardless of side.
@jaredhayward2323
@jaredhayward2323 Жыл бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop thats what i thought too, but almost every install video i watch they all switch the coil overs left to right...also i see lift struts (Ranchos) that have different part numbers from left to right :/ little confused by it
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
@@jaredhayward2323 the drop bracket lift for the frontier requires the tie rods to be switched. maybe that's what you're seeing.
@jaredhayward2323
@jaredhayward2323 Жыл бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop nope, was definitely struts SF creation was where i first saw it...maybe it was just for that particular lift i dunno just thought it was weird since they aren't side specific 🤷‍♂️
@ethanoltean
@ethanoltean Жыл бұрын
The lift coils create the same problem with CBC and their solution being the high clearance UCA. Why not save some dough and just get the UCAs
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
This is incorrect. A lift coil does not create cbc.
@TheRealJeffreyEpstein1953
@TheRealJeffreyEpstein1953 Жыл бұрын
Many people will argue against this, but whether you have a spacer that is 2” long, or a lift coil that is 2” longer than stock, you still have the same geometry if using stock parts. Nothing but salesmanship would change that. So why mechanically would there not be CBC with a lift coil?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealJeffreyEpstein1953 because a lift coil like what we use with a Bilstein 5100 or the Koni’s does not physically change the length of the shock. You can use our springs on the factory 4600s also and not have CBC. The coilover length is what causes CBC. So when you stack a 1.5” tall spacer on top of a coilover, you are causing CBC since you are physically changing the length of the coilover assembly.
@TheRealJeffreyEpstein1953
@TheRealJeffreyEpstein1953 Жыл бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop I think I understand. Thank you for the explanation.
@1393floyd
@1393floyd 8 ай бұрын
Does the contact cause any issues or is just mostly annoying??
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop 8 ай бұрын
it can cause the upper ball joint to come out of the control arm.
@1393floyd
@1393floyd 8 ай бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop common?
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop 8 ай бұрын
@@1393floyd it can be if it hits hard enough over a period of time.
@thesurfingprospector6345
@thesurfingprospector6345 Жыл бұрын
Ok so I had my mechanics put in my 2” lift kit spring and shock only No spacer I then put new Tyers and alignment they said it will keep the Kant in so will wear the Tyers on outside edge dam So I would need the upper control arms YES ?? I’m not doing lots of off roading but for clearance in the Australian desert Looking for gold not major rock climbing Cheers 🍻 CrouchOz
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
you need camber bolts for the lower control arms to adjust the alignment to not wear the tires.
@thesurfingprospector6345
@thesurfingprospector6345 Жыл бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop thank you for your instant reply guys I am wondering do I need them front and back Thank you CrouchOz
@9MilNorm
@9MilNorm 3 ай бұрын
If ADO would create a 3-1/2 suspension lift for the Gen 2 and 3 frontiers, they couldn’t keep em on the shelf.
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop 2 ай бұрын
Max you can do suspension, is 3” on factory geometry. We sell plenty of our fox extended travel kits.
@kyndred-ry5mm
@kyndred-ry5mm 10 ай бұрын
good to know thx
@mikemorgan4670
@mikemorgan4670 Жыл бұрын
Good educational video for the Nissan community.
@winstoncastro7440
@winstoncastro7440 Жыл бұрын
thank's for the info 👍👍👍👍
@edie6863
@edie6863 10 ай бұрын
Great 👍
@zacharyfelts7108
@zacharyfelts7108 Жыл бұрын
Is this only for 4wd
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
no, the suspension is identical on a 2wd
@DDDYLN
@DDDYLN Жыл бұрын
I think any over a 2" spacer, and you're going to have problems
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop Жыл бұрын
our 1/2" spacer on top of 5100s can cause CBC so a 2" spacer will cause CBC
@DDDYLN
@DDDYLN Жыл бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop somehow I got lucky. I have a Pro-4X, but that shouldn't make a difference. My UCAs clear the coil buckets when drooping.
@DDDYLN
@DDDYLN Жыл бұрын
@@AlldogsOffroadCoop well, you were correct. I do have coil bucket contact. It was in a spot I couldn't see. I'm going to Titan Swap in the future anyway, so no big deal. It's nothing that can't be pounded out.
@samueluseumalo5510
@samueluseumalo5510 6 ай бұрын
How about a 11/2 Spacer???
@AlldogsOffroadCoop
@AlldogsOffroadCoop 6 ай бұрын
still running the risk of CBC.
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