Why Speedrunners HATE Pokemon Alpha Sapphire

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@PulseEffects Жыл бұрын

Hello gamers! I recently released another video explaining a few things I didn't fully explain in this video! Check it out if you have questions. 🙂 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iM2oq9OK3MyvmZs.html

@blackrapier713 Жыл бұрын

Sheer cold increases in accuracy based on the level gap. For every level they have above yours it gains 1%. So sheer cold had a 34% rather than a 30%. Which does a lot more than most people expect, just like how 95% accurate moves miss so often.

@dreadknight2439 Жыл бұрын

This explains sooo fucking much, I remember Kyogre hitting sheer cold sooo fucking often despite it supposed to be 30 accuracy against my team

@PulseEffects Жыл бұрын

Ahhh I totally forgot about the level difference mechanic.

@nerddwarf Жыл бұрын

@@dreadknight2439 OHKO moves also fail outright of the user is lower level than the target (level 99 Walrein using Sheer Cold will fail against a lv. 100 Sunkern)

@neri1220 Жыл бұрын

@@nerddwarf Indeed thats why they just needed 55 lvl Kyogre.

@shadowtitanx3962 Жыл бұрын

If it’s not 100% Accurate, it's 50% Accurate

@seastruck5410 Жыл бұрын

I wasn’t fortunate enough to play these games when they came out only played the Original ones and honestly seeing how this game was made, man do I wish diamond and pearl had the same treatment cause holy crap it looks so beautiful.

@notscorchingsands9718 Жыл бұрын

But everyone bitching about it at launch says otherwise

@martinthomas2520 Жыл бұрын

@@notscorchingsands9718That’s what I never understood tbh, game was amazing yet people still found meaningless things to complain… lol

@frizzyrascal1493 Жыл бұрын

@@martinthomas2520 Nah don't twist the history there, Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby had a much better first review wave than the DP Remakes had. It was greatly made, but I still don't get why they cut out the Emerald extra stuff.

@jonsupee3373 Жыл бұрын

@@notscorchingsands9718 they always do that, it happened to the black and white games too. Turned out to be the best games of the franchise.

@2thezaza Жыл бұрын

@@notscorchingsands9718 I don’t remember that at all except the too much water memes

@Imamotherfreakingavocado Жыл бұрын

Latias is my favourite legendary, she deserved better 😭😭

@conradlorgar5508 Жыл бұрын

...why?

@rique3849 Жыл бұрын

Same

@helion_ut Жыл бұрын

Casually waiting till people start fighting because someone "misgendered" a Pokémon (Saw this happen like 3 times with Zacian).

@alctry Жыл бұрын

@@helion_ut There seem to be no errors. Latias can only be female, the male counterpart is Latios (think like Nidoking and Nidoqueen).

@adamiamnottellingyoumylast5746 Жыл бұрын

Same here because she was the first legend I ever got

@elmago2808 Жыл бұрын

Fun facts with Jake! This actually mirrors the competitive scene near perfectly, as in gen 3 kyogre was the most dominant mon in ubers, while, when oras dropped, groudon surpassed it by a long shot

@gregorymirabella1423 Жыл бұрын

that fire typing and water immunity was huge for it.

@elmago2808 Жыл бұрын

@@gregorymirabella1423 yup. The water inmunity, especially, turned their matchup from one where they both had to be very cautious to an absolute groudon victory

@ThatOneWeirdFlex Жыл бұрын

@@gregorymirabella1423there is also more moves and pokemon that can abuse sun in ORAS

@selearth3123 Жыл бұрын

@@ThatOneWeirdFlex i think you've forgotten how their primal forms' weather abilities worked. Nobody was using regular groudon in ORAS ubers so they could set up sun.

@alexursu4403 Жыл бұрын

@@selearth3123 You sure that wasn't reffering to VGC ? AKA the doubles format ?

@RustyhairedAlp9575 Жыл бұрын

I guess you could say that alpha saphire is hard mode. That and maybe more people should be using the grass type starter in the game where the villains primarily use water types.

@N12015 Жыл бұрын

Flannery and Wattson.

@piranhalettuce Жыл бұрын

I can walk on water I can fly

@PredictableEnigma Жыл бұрын

There are a bunch of catchable grass and water types though. Very few fire types to catch.

@crumpetsancheese2197 Жыл бұрын

@@PredictableEnigma yeah, but this is a speedrun. they don't have time to catch & train like a lotad, and grass is a really bad type in general.

@hankhill7155 Жыл бұрын

@Crumpetsancheese your logic and username is terrible..get swept by a dommy mommy tsareena

@LocalMaple Жыл бұрын

8:13 That’s actually 34%. OHKO moves gain 1% for each level above the target the user is.

@Official_ViperYT Жыл бұрын

But if the oh ko user is lower level, it's 0% accuracy

@brawlyboy220 Жыл бұрын

Half of the comments are saying this😭

@davidstratton696 Жыл бұрын

@@Official_ViperYT Which is such a weird way u think it would work the same way both ways where every lv lower it would just reduce it by 1. Seems weird 😂.

@princeking1562 Жыл бұрын

@@Official_ViperYT Legendaries would be unaffected if higher level but not normal pokemon if it hasn't changed and theres no way you should have such a weak legend at the league too easy to level on the cave.

@jianchristian1367 Жыл бұрын

@@princeking1562there's no time to fucking grind in a speedrun. cope

@zone0ftruth Жыл бұрын

I had no idea how hard alpha sapphire gets dunked on lmao

@HabitualThinker Жыл бұрын

idk man, this seems like the problems are all specific to speedrunners who dont know that water is weak to grass though its problably not worth catching a water mon just for surf

@linglingforever Жыл бұрын

@@HabitualThinker if u pick treecko, you have nothing for magneton and flannery, i imagine mudkip is still faster due to that roadblock

@DJFracus Жыл бұрын

@@HabitualThinker Do a Treecko run and let us know how it goes against Brawly, Rival, Wattson, Flannery, and Norman (hint: it's worse against all of them). Let us know when you beat all the speedrunners who don't know that water is weak to grass.

@egbertmilton4003 Жыл бұрын

@@DJFracus It’s easy to get through those trainers. Seems like they just have a skill issue

@kyarumomochi5146 Жыл бұрын

@@egbertmilton4003 ah yes speedrunners has skill issue

@N12015 Жыл бұрын

34/66% chance, not 3'/70%. Sheer cold gains 1% accuracy for each level above the opponent, making the situation slightly worse.

@ekman_larsson4821 Жыл бұрын

I feel like it's worth noting that the Walrein can also go for Surf or Body Slam and we usually only have to risk 2 turns on the Walrein, which makes it much more reasonable to go for the no Blue Orb strat since you are fairly likely to survive

@Official_ViperYT Жыл бұрын

Yeah but if your not that's a big time waster, and your legendary is dead. And usually a speedrunner doesn't try grinding levels that much in a run because it takes time out of the run.

@ekman_larsson4821 Жыл бұрын

@@Official_ViperYT I was trying to make a point for why people go for a relatively risky strat that late into the game because I saw some people in the comment section who said that it would not be worth it. I don't exactly know what you are trying to tell me but yes, sometimes we have to take risks in Pokémon Speedruns so that we can go fast

@LamChopa 2 ай бұрын

😊q

@FiboSai Жыл бұрын

Why do speedrunners use the red orb in OR, while avoiding the use of the blue orb in AS against Glacia? Is it because Kyogre can theoretically win faster without it, but Groudon has to transform to win? That would be an awkward case of one game having a strat that is technically faster than the other, but more annoying to perform because it is inconsistent.

@PulseEffects Жыл бұрын

Pretty much. Groudon needs the stat boost from its Primal, otherwise it's insanely nature and stat dependant.

@groudonvert7286 Жыл бұрын

@@PulseEffects It's just stupid if you're on a WR pace, you don't have to throw it out of the window on RNG if you have a bit slower but safe way to the fight.

@tuby0299 Жыл бұрын

@@groudonvert7286 I'd assume that if you don't risk the rng, you lose the WR pace, given how saving even seconds is pretty important on speedruns

@groudonvert7286 Жыл бұрын

@@tuby0299 In speedruns like Pokémon where every fight is RNG, I don't believe you have that much time to lose on a fight like that.

@tuby0299 Жыл бұрын

@@groudonvert7286 well in a speedrun, even a few seconds can be what defines a WR run. And while it is true that Pokémon speedruns are filled with rng, you're always going to play against those odds for an optimal play. After all, if it wasn't an important thing to begin with, I doubt anyone would be risking the run, yet that's not the case

@philipgelderblom6878 Жыл бұрын

Kyorgrie. My pain

@Official_ViperYT Жыл бұрын

Nah the re in Kyogre is pronounced backwards.

@aprinnyonbreak1290 Жыл бұрын

Kyorgy

@Official_ViperYT Жыл бұрын

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 yes, kyorgy

@AdmireVega Жыл бұрын

Kyo grr

@MimoriAzume 6 ай бұрын

Kroger

@ultimapower6950 Жыл бұрын

So since Omega Ruby is the preferred game for ORAS speedruns does that mean that Omega Ruby is avenging Ruby or something

@Official_ViperYT Жыл бұрын

Probably, after all Kyogre would win agienst Groudon cuz of typing. so I guess it's just avenging the legendary.

@UltraAryan10 Жыл бұрын

@@Official_ViperYT Yes but Primal Groudon can beat Primal Kyogre and is better overall so they did just flip the matchup of Gen 3 in Gen 6.

@Official_ViperYT Жыл бұрын

@@UltraAryan10 yeah, I remember I think they gave Groudon solar beam to handle weaknesses. and with the desolate land it is a 1 turn op move.

@Lord_necromancer Жыл бұрын

@@Official_ViperYT also desolate land fully negates all water attacks so Kyogre is fully useless against primal Groudon

@IschmarVI Жыл бұрын

"preferred", because the games actually have separate leaderboards due to being different enough from one another.

@BijouBellaRixp1 Жыл бұрын

I am here solely because of that thumbnail it is adorable pat whoever made it on the back they deserve it

@PulseEffects Жыл бұрын

Justice for Latias!!! 😭😤

@dr.toxicgamingmadscientist Жыл бұрын

like you said, LotiASS

@HollowKnightFanGD Жыл бұрын

Justice!

@andreathereshiram7578 Жыл бұрын

Justice for her!

@thedotgiver2820 Жыл бұрын

@Grenadadwi Жыл бұрын

Loti Asss ? Bro what

@d-anca3491 Жыл бұрын

The Latios in the red game and Latias in the blue game is also in the originals but you get them latter and is harder to catch them, only in Emerald they let you choose which you want. Also I think is better that you can't skip some parts of the game.

@AFXffs772 Жыл бұрын

Groudon is actually much better for the 8th gym as it sets up Desolate Land which nullifies Water moves, which the AI doesn’t get and will still spam Water moves seeing the 4x weakness oblivious to the fact it’s doing 0 damage, this also saves time on the animations

@kumoko3728 6 ай бұрын

You can turn animations off...

@alecrutz6979 3 ай бұрын

@@kumoko3728 honestly I'd advise doing it in normal gameplay too because man it takes up so much time.

@charlessmith3756 Жыл бұрын

"HM Friend" hit me like a truck

@ricebox3048 Жыл бұрын

Poor lati-ass. It's so cute but not strong enough for speedruns :(

@oden-sama_ 9 күн бұрын

Latias is great. L

@TwiliPaladin Жыл бұрын

1:35 In my Pokémon Y playthrough, that was the Black Belt in Reflection Cave who had nothing but a Sawk. Dude wiped 4 of my pokemon before I could get a single hit off.

@ARCHIVED9610 Жыл бұрын

Lmao for me it was the autumn bridge battle my team got swept and i was OVERLEVELEd

@augustorojas9371 Жыл бұрын

6:54 May and Brendan are 12 years old in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire. The ten year old rule is exclusive to the anime and every single playable character we known the age of is older than 10.

@nerddwarf Жыл бұрын

The accuracy of OHKO moves increase if the user is higher level than the target (1% per level), and fail if the user is lower level than the target. Level 54 Walrein has a 34% to hit Sheer Cold against a level 50 Kyorge It's only a 66% chance to not get hit by Sheer Cold, not 70%

@Hilly_LittleFeatheryCorner Жыл бұрын

I came here for the content of this video. I didn't expect you to use "vulnerability" for the bg music in the end part. I'm commenting here to give you a h5 for the usage of the ost.

@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 Жыл бұрын

Alpha sapphire was one of the first games I ever beat and I will never forget how important some of those pokemon are to me. I cried when I got to the credits and it showed me fighting with my pokemon with their greatest hits.

@livebyfaith4647 Жыл бұрын

one of the first games you ever beat? how old are u like 5? game came out like 6 years ago bro

@dirtylivin07 Жыл бұрын

@@livebyfaith4647 2014 was 9 years ago.

@xeths_tcg Жыл бұрын

@@livebyfaith4647 9. The guy could be like 14

@pigeonflame9885 Жыл бұрын

@@livebyfaith4647 assuming he was like 9 when he beat it he could even be 18 lmao

@testerwulf3357 Жыл бұрын

@@livebyfaith4647 How would they currently be 5?? It came out 9 years ago, I was 11-ish when it came out; my first pokemon game was X&Y however, first game I'd ever beaten I think? I'm not really that good at video games but I'm pretty decent at pokemon

@FortunateNeil Жыл бұрын

Latass my beloved

@xxbloo_skoutxx Жыл бұрын

Kai-Oh-Gree 😭

@David_the_Psalmist Жыл бұрын

Calling Kyogre Kee-oh-gree is one of the biggest Ls the anime ever took. The only thing worse than that that I can think of is calling Rattata Rattatat.

@marshupp Жыл бұрын

How Kyogre should be prounonce ? Kai-oh-geer ?

@David_the_Psalmist Жыл бұрын

@@marshupp Close. It's Kai, like Dragonball Kai, and then ogre, like Shrek.

@jouheikisaragi6075 Жыл бұрын

I tend to say Key Oh Gray

@David_the_Psalmist Жыл бұрын

@@jouheikisaragi6075 I catch you saying that, I’ll show you what a KO grey looks like.

@jouheikisaragi6075 Жыл бұрын

@@David_the_Psalmist not my fault that's how it's said in both my native language. Same with Rayquaza being Ry(like Ride) Kwa Za and Arceus being Ar seh oos. Spanish is a funny language like that.

@mcspiffy5843 Жыл бұрын

My favorite boy Machop, finally getting some time in the spotlight!

@caolanochearnaigh9804 Жыл бұрын

That thumbnail, man. Hilarious. May's like, "Dammit Archie! Why won't your goons stop following me?!

@kookio4284 Жыл бұрын

I almost think it would be more beneficial to use Torchic in Alpha Sapphire than it is to use Mudkip.

@IschmarVI Жыл бұрын

no, it wouldn't. Otherwise speedrunners would use it.

@aprinnyonbreak1290 Жыл бұрын

Torchic can't beat Roxanne That's mostly it. Torchic absolutely cannot beat Roxanne without unreasonable luck. Combusken can, but you don't have a Combusken, you have a Torchic, and if you grind for Combusken, you are now irrecoverably behind pace

@Aleph3575 Жыл бұрын

4:52 Tbf it was always like that even in the OG games. You always got the Eon legendary who was the opposite color of your game. Its just in the OG games you didn't get them midgame so they weren't relevant to a speedrun unless going for a 100% run.

@ExtremeBirdTypography Жыл бұрын

Love the Latias named 'Latios' at 5:14 there. The cope is real.

@dr.toxicgamingmadscientist Жыл бұрын

i just realized that Resonance is the track used for this video, what a neat touch

@Magicdfox Жыл бұрын

You did not nickname your latias “Latios” that is next level lmao

@sxperpotion Жыл бұрын

i enjoyed this thoroughly, i need more.

@RyanYTTV Жыл бұрын

This game made my childhood Thankful for the moments I had with my cousins Playing 3DS and having fun as kids

@joshuah.4496 Жыл бұрын

Goddamn, that made me feel old. It was the same way for me with the 2nd and 3rd gen games

@LucianDevine Жыл бұрын

Sheer Cold, 30% of the time, it hits every time!

@ChronoSquare 7 ай бұрын

This helps me know about OR on one video. That's good content.

@Diz_27 Жыл бұрын

I screamed so loud at Lati-Ass 😂😂😂

@ogeid772 Жыл бұрын

Wouldnt a quick trip to the Lillycove department store to get the Thunder TM help with the Walrein? I get that its a speedrun, so time is of the essence, but i think you could make up for the time lost by not needing to set up on the fight

@Skullhawk13 Жыл бұрын

Rival fight blocks it

@Corvimae Жыл бұрын

ALPHA SAPPHIRE MY BELOVED latas

@eirikeiken Жыл бұрын

I remember doing a for-fun Latias only run of AS. It was fun and doable, but it was sort of frustrating how all the league match-ups are very unfavorable. Dark type, Ghost type, Ice Type, and Dragon type are all super effective against my red plane wife. Obviously not a speed run :D.

@empressmako Жыл бұрын

i wonder if you can get 5 rare candies for kyogre before glacia to prevent the ohko

@kstanni87 Жыл бұрын

you can grind in Victory Road and just don't waste those rare candies on any pokemon in Alpha Sapphire speedruns (where kyogre is allowed)

Жыл бұрын

@@kstanni87 does grinding not add to the speedrun time?

@gregorymirabella1423 Жыл бұрын

takes too much time. you can potentially get WR if you just gamble on not getting OKHO'd, so everyone just hopes for the best.

@Dirty_mike_and_dem_boys Жыл бұрын

@no

@aprinnyonbreak1290 Жыл бұрын

@@gregorymirabella1423 This Because you CAN beat Glacia reasonably without Rare Candies, that means you HAVE to if you wanna go for WR. Kinda like the no Blue Orb strat itself. Groudon basically has to use it without unreasonable luck, so using it hasn't been worked out of the WR yet, but because Kyogre reasonably can, you have to.

@carlosmujun Жыл бұрын

4:20 i died

@Infurnadox_Gaming Жыл бұрын

1 thing you didn’t mention is that groundon gets access to solar beam, that is a 1 turn move if the sun is up so the water gym goes down instantly to it

@PulseEffects Жыл бұрын

Solar Beam is not used for the speedrun! Its Ground/Fire moves obliterate everything in its path.

@Robbie_Haruna Жыл бұрын

I assume that wasn't mentioned because it's usually not worth it lol. The boosted fire moves from sunlight and the ground moves scaling off its insane physical attack are nutty.

@morenoreno3389 5 ай бұрын

I find it funny how he stresses whenever he says Lati-ASS

@FishdipDeen Жыл бұрын

Was not expecting to hear Mother 3 music. Great taste!

@goaway9923 Жыл бұрын

when/where does the cutscene between 0:00 and 0:08 come from? I don't remember it and I'm really curious

@Red-hy8df 5 ай бұрын

it's from when you travel on kyogre/groudon's back and fight their primal form

@wonthangsoop Ай бұрын

I love hearing speed runners recall painful moments of a run. Their pain is my pleasure HAHAHA. Speedrun a game? Couldn't be me xD

@ibrahim6192 Жыл бұрын

The way he says latias Lmao

@auroraborealis9763 Жыл бұрын

I love this pokemon game so much its my childhood i spent hundreds of hours playing it and i caught my first shiny. Sadly i lost the cartridge. Rest in peace my lvl 100 shiny magicarp named god you will always have a special place in my heart

@ellachino4799 5 ай бұрын

... your 3ds should still have the data...?

@shimogane2474 Жыл бұрын

Yo blaziken looks amazing for a alpha sapphire speed run. Too sad that you need to catch a water type because Latias encounters right after the first surf area.

@Boulder7685 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I’m curious how much time you’d have to lose to catching a Lotad. Though the first gym being rock probably hurts the Torchic pick as well.

@caldw615 Жыл бұрын

Just curious, if the early stages of AS are so difficult due to water types like Carvana/Sharpedo then why not use Treecko as the starter instead? Grass would still do well against the first Gym and the aqua grunts, and it learning Absorb/Mega Drain would still give it STAB that's neutral to fighting types while letting it recover a bit to compensate for lower defense.

@PulseEffects Жыл бұрын

Not worth using Grovyle! It gets walled harder by worse threats than Carvanha. (Rivals/Gyms)

@caldw615 Жыл бұрын

@@PulseEffects Didn't expect a reply haha. I was just wondering if it would have at least done up until you reached Latias and then could be boxed for the rest of the game since you couldn't do that in the original Ruby and Sapphire so early.

@Hyperneosonic97 Жыл бұрын

@@caldw615 Then you'd also have to waste time capturing Pokemon to use the required HMs with. This is why Mudkip is so much better- it also learns every required HM so you don't have to spend time on captures.

@caldw615 Жыл бұрын

@@Hyperneosonic97 Ah that's true, I forgot there's like 3 HM's just for traversing water in this game alone.

@Hyperneosonic97 Жыл бұрын

@@caldw615 Even were it not for that, though, Grovyle would face huge problems once you reached Flannery, since Grovyle isn't anywhere near strong enough to deal with her Torkoal (heck, even taking out her Slugma is a tough one), without excessive grinding and Flannery is before you get access to Latias.

@NineQuestionMarks Жыл бұрын

I'm starting to wonder if it would be faster to use Treecko instead. You get Rock Tomb right after the first gym to deal with all of Grass' weaknesses except for poison, and it adds more type variety compared to using both Mudkip and Kyogre, plus Latias can learn Surf, Dive, and Waterfall.

@testerwulf3357 Жыл бұрын

Treecko is just not good in these games, worst starter choice as it doesn't do well with most of the gyms and anything after..it also ironically doesn't do well against team aqua as most of team aquas pokemon aren't water types and super effective against grass types..they mostly use dark, flying, and poison types (if it was a viable option the speedrunners would of tried it)

@IschmarVI Жыл бұрын

@@testerwulf3357 it's honestly very underrated, but even then, it is unfortunately not fast enough to compete for the speedrun. Also, mudkip has the added benefit of learning all required HMs, meaning you don't have to catch anything else (except for the box legendary) in the run.

@aprinnyonbreak1290 Жыл бұрын

You lose to Wattson, lose to Flannery, and need to catch a Surf pokemon. You can grind or catch pokemon to help this, but than means you are now behind pace and will never recover. The only other way to save time would be if Treecko was better than Latias and/or Kyogre through midgame and lategame. It is not. It gets pushed in by Winona, has no tools to deal with Golbat or Weezing well, dies even harder to Glacia, flounders against Drake, and dies screaming to Steven. It is also constantly making contact with Sharpedo which, while I can't say for sure, probably means there are items you need to use between certain fights, and possibly some pokemon Sceptile just doesn't have the HP left to survive a hit from.

@alucardthespy5539 Жыл бұрын

Lati-O-s is for Omega Ruby because of the O Lati-A-s is for Alpha Sapphire because of the A Makes sense to me.

@Lee-fw5bd Жыл бұрын

This is informative and all but I do find the end kind of funny. They have the sheer willpower to... finish the game!

@soulsurvivor32 Жыл бұрын

I used lastias in sword and shield for a while and lemme tell ya, this thing has milotic defense, but it's on steroids. It's defense is what it makes it so good, along with that good speed. Like latios, they have access to thunderbolt, calm mind and ice beam! I'm not sure if they're available in Oras but I guarantee it gets it now. It's a good pokemon but I don't like the fact I have to calm mind before doing real damage

@UltraAryan10 Жыл бұрын

Latias was always supposed to be the defense version but unfortunately the overall idea of the Pokemon is way better for offensive purposes so Latias always seems to be better even for Calm Mind sets.

@Nocturne989 Жыл бұрын

That Trauma Center music got me mad nostalgic though

@Conkel Жыл бұрын

The music playing at the end. What is it?

@rotcivmik Жыл бұрын

@@Conkel The song starting at 8:38 is Vulnerability from the Trauma Center Second Opinion OST

@radaf4429 Жыл бұрын

Please never say Kyogre again

@LukeA471 Жыл бұрын

Where is the extra e in Kyogre? I'm not seeing it

@dabondemhaders4828 Жыл бұрын

At least the aqua admin bad asf

@lucideirune1635 Жыл бұрын

If you have another 3DS with the Eon Ticket, you can send an eon ticket to your other game and get Latios after defeating Kyogre.

@Gamesmarts194 10 ай бұрын

Wait wouldn't the Sheet Cold problem also exist in Omega Ruby also? Or does Groudon or Latias outspeed and one-shot with stab moves or something?

@d007ization 11 ай бұрын

Primal Kryo has way higher Sp. A. than the OG, right? Is the Orb transformation that much slower than a 2hko as a opposed to a 3hko?

@SilentOnion Жыл бұрын

4:22 "latiASS" :DD?

@abarette_ Жыл бұрын

hey at least they don't have Freeze-Dry

@darkfiredragon3410 Жыл бұрын

The 2nd Glalie does have Freeze-Dry, actually.

@dankdankeryetdanker2726 Жыл бұрын

That thumbnail is so good.

@rainbowtheanimator9901 4 ай бұрын

I know it requires friendship, but I would've expected to see water pledge involved in this video

@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan Жыл бұрын

Is the TM for Thunder accessable mid run? Because Kyogre with Thunder could help a lot

@Celestia282 Жыл бұрын

Thunder is only available in the Lilycove Department Store, which is locked behind an optional Brendan fight that I'm guessing speedrunners skip.

@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan Жыл бұрын

@@Celestia282 I wasn't sure if it was like that in ORAS, so I guess the question is if it's faster (or even possible) to beat Brendan and get Thunder or not. Because I can't imagine using a Kyogre without Thunder, so Alpha Sapphire 100% got hit there then lol

@mishmishb Жыл бұрын

6:25 in to the video and I could swear my spotify is playing quietly in the background, nope that's just the backing track of the video. Home - Resonance if anyone is interested :D

@yoredpanda4ishot Жыл бұрын

Which starter is you guys favorite?

@lewdjustice567 Жыл бұрын

I got stuck when he said "Kyogree"

@blaym4271 11 ай бұрын

I had to pause the video for a solid 30 seconds

@1ledluverjlp Жыл бұрын

An "HM friend". Taking the safe route huh

@v.thirteen5504 3 ай бұрын

HM?

@dogf421 Жыл бұрын

ive always thought pokemon speedrunning was kinda insane cause when you push things that far the game seems to be pure luck (which is fun in its own way but very different from other speed runs)

@PulseEffects Жыл бұрын

Exactly why I love Pokemon Speedruns!

@RustingPeace Жыл бұрын

as a kid i after beating the game like 2-3 times i always speedrunned the games for the legendaries to trade them

@SonicTheCutehog Жыл бұрын

I guess that makes it fair since Sapphire was by far the best version to speedrun, so Omega Ruby is by far the best version to speedrun for the remakes.

@Permanently_Salty Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, my favorite pokemon: Kyogree

@Blizzard7373 Жыл бұрын

That was my first game so special place in my heart

@DarkKnightofHeaven Жыл бұрын

It's important to note that OHKO moves aren't a flat 30% and their accuracy changes based on level. your of a lower level than the pokemon using it, the accuracy increases by 1% for each level. In all of the instances shown, since Kyogre was level 50, Walrein's sheer cold was a 34% chance to hit, so in theory a slightly higher than 1 in 3 chance, which is way scarier of a situation.

@santa5628 Жыл бұрын

What songs are playing?

@SparenofIria Жыл бұрын

Nicknaming Latias Latios is hilarious!

@nerddwarf Жыл бұрын

Lati@s

@masako8980 Жыл бұрын

What's the song at 3:20?

@phantomstarsx9343 Жыл бұрын

Would... would it maaaaybe be better to use the treeko line? All of the issues seem to be water type pokemon, and aside from the ice/water combo at the end sceptile may be able to hit harder

@Elzoic Жыл бұрын

My guess is that aside from team aqua, mudkip does better against all other trainers. Like I could see wattson giving players a hard time, due to the possibility of paralysis, as well as flannery being a pain too. Also you need something that can use surf as well so you’d have to waste time finding another surfer, cause even if latias can learn surf you need to surf to get to her. I am sure there are a ton of other factors as well, but I’m i guess that’s why they call this speedrun a mess.

@PulseEffects Жыл бұрын

Like most Grass Pokemon, Rival fights kinda ruin its potential. I'm pretty sure it doesn't learns the HMs we need either.

@ultimaterecoil1136 Жыл бұрын

Well for one treecko can’t learn every required hm so not an option. This is without considering how bad it is for rival fights. If surf is required you use the water starter just sometimes you catch something to use instead like in gen 1 how people use nidoking

@Official_ViperYT Жыл бұрын

I would for speedruns but we would need a second pokemon for surf and waterfall and dive. And swampernt learns em all

@IschmarVI Жыл бұрын

@@PulseEffects not all rival fights. It *does* eventually get swords dance + dig. But rival 2 is a biiiiig pain in the butt, especially because combusken isn't even weak to rock tomb, lol.

@coyotai9474 Жыл бұрын

beautiful video, really well put together, yeah the red 1 is wayy better than the blue one, so im happy its in alpha cos id rather have it than the blue guy

@Innautico Жыл бұрын

Am I insane or is the track under this video Resonance by HOME?

@Ddoublechin Жыл бұрын

Love all the hoenn content lately

@harrymillar4193 Жыл бұрын

Latias is my favourite out of the two because I just like her :) Sapphire was the game I chose when I was a lil’un and it’s what I picked when the remakes came out. Heck, I picked White during Gen 5 and then when the sequels were up for grabs, I had to pick Black 2, which conflicts with the story but I Latias was exclusive to B2!

@gabs3147 11 ай бұрын

Nothing but bangers in the background

@barryallen2463 Жыл бұрын

also why not thunder walrein?

@derpyquagsire6678 Жыл бұрын

Probably a really dumb question but is buying thunder tm really that slow to counter Glacia?

@PulseEffects Жыл бұрын

Yes! Just barely slower when you account everything like buying and teaching.

@rickastley3033 Жыл бұрын

ive never heard anyone pronounce kyogre as kyogree before

@nhernandez925 5 ай бұрын

What’s the glam of speed running?

@redzawsome Жыл бұрын

when u remember that it works on level so if u kyorge is lower level then walrien sheer cold has a higher chance to hit

@MachineLord42 Жыл бұрын

Now I don’t know speed running in this game besides this video so this might be a silly question but why not take Treeko instead of mudkip if you have to go up against Aqua?

@aprinnyonbreak1290 Жыл бұрын

1. You're not using your starter after you get Lati@s in either game, it's faster to dump exp on just one pokemon. So Treeko isn't helping with the later Aqua fights, because it's being replaced. 2. Mudkip struggles against one Aqua grunt, but makes up for it against Wattson and Flannery. 3. Treeko struggles against a LOT more than one Aqua grunt, and frankly probably is entirely incapable of beating Flannery under these conditions. It's also not doing better than Latias is against everything else, so you're not using it over Latias. Again, not even sure if Sceptile CAN beat Winona under these conditions, so you're not going to be able to use it over Latias. Honestly there's probably a lot of other trainers that are hard on Treeko, too, those are just the notable ones.

@IschmarVI Жыл бұрын

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 I've done treeko main runs on both version (always use AS, trust me, you don't want to face koffings midgame e_e) and it can beat flannery by switching to a death fodder poke (which you will have to catch anyways because you need something that can swim) to reduce slugma's special attack so that you can setup 2 swords dances (slugma usually uses light screen and sunny day because it loves those moves for some reason). You can then kill everything with a soft sand boosted dig (soft sand you can get from smashing rocks, but doing that is a bit annoying to say the least). Depending on your level and your stats, torkoal will be a pretty nasty range at +4 though :/ So you will probably need some extra levelling but that might not be that bad because that training makes Norman kinda free. Other than that, yeah you pretty much summed it up. It Is still a fun poke to run, tho

@averagepersonafan2718 4 ай бұрын

Tartarus theme is crazy

@jjnix9517 Жыл бұрын

I normally have a zigzagoon for surf and give waterfall to swampert

@Spiney09 Жыл бұрын

Me who nuzlocked Alpha Saphire last week: I wish I had known this before.

@aprinnyonbreak1290 Жыл бұрын

Mmm. In a Nuzkocke, Sapphire is probably much more even, but still a bit harder in account of how universally free Camerupt is. Anyone can fish up a Luvdisc or a Maril, slap Surf on it, and send Camerupt to sleep. But Latias is probably the better fit for a Nuzlocke (if you use it), Lotad is a way better pickup than Shiftry, Sableye makes Brawly free, ect

@Spiney09 Жыл бұрын

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 to be fair, most of Alpha saphire is free, given how easy the trainers are.

@aprinnyonbreak1290 Жыл бұрын

@@Spiney09 I mean, yeah, but complacency is how death snowballs begin

@Spiney09 Жыл бұрын

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 that’s fair, but even staying under level caps and not having rare candy cheats, I only ever lost two mons. One to a sad crit in the first gym, and the other against Steven’s Metagross. So it wasn’t too bad.