Why Taiwan Can't Obtain F-35 Stealth Fighter Jets | Taiwan Talks EP264

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At the end of October, an Iranian cruise missile fired by Houthis from Yemen was shot down by an F-35 stealth fighter jet made in the U.S. and flown by Israel. Why was this considered such a feat, and what does it mean for future air combat? When it comes to Taiwan, a request to purchase F-35s this year failed. Why did the U.S. reject Taiwan, and what else can the country rely on in the skies?
Joining us to discuss this are:
Lee Ting-sheng
- Institute of National Defense and Security Research Deputy CEO and former deputy commanding general of the ROC Air Force
Alexander Huang
-Kuomintang International Affairs Representative and Chairman at the Council on Strategic and Wargaming Studies
Guermantes Lailari
-Retired U.S. Air Force Foreign Area Officer Specializing in Counterterrorism and Missile Defense
#F35 #F16 #ChinaMilitary #CMP #IsraeliDefenseForce #IDF

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@JuanDelaCruz-ds2nh
@JuanDelaCruz-ds2nh 7 ай бұрын
I believe that the refusal of US to sell F-35 to Taiwan has something to do with a possible Taiwanese pilot deflecting to China and selling the jet to the Chinese.
@scalemodeltutor9841
@scalemodeltutor9841 7 ай бұрын
Agreed, and also, there are a lot of Chinese spies in Taiwan and it’s very hard to tell to Who’s who and they can assimilate with Taiwanese very easily.
@outerspace8158
@outerspace8158 7 ай бұрын
That's why they will quickly take down government and parliaments
@giamannguyen797
@giamannguyen797 7 ай бұрын
Hoaky rat quan ngai :phi cong dai loan: va quan dan dang:dai loan muon hoaky bao ve:thi phai bo phieu dang dan tien: va kiem soat tinh bao nghiem ngac
@lazarusperce1806
@lazarusperce1806 7 ай бұрын
you didn't catch the latest news from Taiwan. Chinese try to bribe Taiwanese pilot who is piloting American made CH-47 Chinook helicopter. 🤣🤣. No way in hell the US would sell F-35 to Taiwan even if Taiwan and China at war!!
@georgesikimeti2184
@georgesikimeti2184 7 ай бұрын
…..more like protecting stealth technology in f35 in case of being shot down in Chinese territory,free tech.
@vasilileung2204
@vasilileung2204 7 ай бұрын
Taiwan don’t necessarily need F-35s as long as US, Japan, S. Korea and Australia all have F-35s
@vladimiripotzky5392
@vladimiripotzky5392 6 ай бұрын
What, are they going to use that for taiwan??? No f**kin way!🤨
@gvibration1
@gvibration1 6 ай бұрын
​@@vladimiripotzky5392 Japan and US definitely will.
@Uretard2121
@Uretard2121 6 ай бұрын
Assuming they be there in time. F16 can be destroyed by anti air ship
@Ilaya593
@Ilaya593 7 ай бұрын
Very nice analysis and discussion. Very professionally-hosted; she knows her craft.
@gregbarnes1580
@gregbarnes1580 7 ай бұрын
I love the host. She’s awesome 👏
@jetli740
@jetli740 7 ай бұрын
yes show know her craft sure she think f16 can VITOL😂😂😂
@patrikpreder7390
@patrikpreder7390 7 ай бұрын
Mmmmmmm.
@kiloromeo4725
@kiloromeo4725 7 ай бұрын
She may know her subject matter. However, Yin Khvat acted as if she was only semi competent. I believe @jetli740 said it best in this thread.
@alexcort4842
@alexcort4842 7 ай бұрын
The production of F-35 cannot catch up with the demands. Many European countries, plus Korea, Japan …remain in waiting for their F-35 to be delivered
@Ezekiel903
@Ezekiel903 7 ай бұрын
btw, it was a joint venture project between Lockheed USA and European countries. Italy has the only assembly line outside the US, don't know if Japan will become the next assembly line!
@buildmotosykletist1987
@buildmotosykletist1987 7 ай бұрын
F35 production is ahead of schedule.
@Ezekiel903
@Ezekiel903 7 ай бұрын
​@@DeadManWalking-ym1oo I know Japan has the capability to built it too. Italy is building the F 35 for the Netherlands, Switzerland and Austria. But the issue could be, since it was a joint venture, that one involved country would do a veto, which I don't believe bcs Japan is a highly respected country in Europe
@hoghogwild
@hoghogwild 6 ай бұрын
@@Ezekiel903 Japan/UK/Italy are doing a collab on their 6th Gen fighter design.to form the three nation Global Combat Air Programme while opting to pursue separate drone development. The 6th Gen BAE Tempest design is involved and Sweden was invited by Japan to be an observer of the program.
@Feelthefx
@Feelthefx 6 ай бұрын
@@hoghogwildand those projects are still in the prototype/blueprint phase while the F35 is in full production and is engaging in actual combat ops.
@pulsatingsausageboy2076
@pulsatingsausageboy2076 7 ай бұрын
Probably a good idea for Taiwan to have them but right now their biggest priority should be SAMS and other air defense as well as anti-ship missiles, drones and heavy artillery.
@moeszyslak7304
@moeszyslak7304 6 ай бұрын
And some quiet diesel subs to guard the waters
@milsimgamer
@milsimgamer 6 ай бұрын
@@moeszyslak7304 You mean more.....they already have submarines.
@DumbSkippy
@DumbSkippy 7 ай бұрын
Hi from Perth Western Australia. I stand with Taiwan !
@johnchiu4560
@johnchiu4560 7 ай бұрын
I'm from the USA. I stand with Beijing and Moscow!
@brand8590
@brand8590 7 ай бұрын
Good show, thanks!
@chrysllerryu4171
@chrysllerryu4171 7 ай бұрын
the distance of taiwan to china is too close to need F-35, F-35 isn't made to dogfight. its meant to engage and destroy enemy air craft beyond enemy range. what taiwan need are air superiority fighters like F-15EX
@georgesikimeti2184
@georgesikimeti2184 7 ай бұрын
F35 was never developed for dogfight,its stealth capability is what it is for,evade detection hence suitable for entering China air space without detection and do its job.
@stupidburp
@stupidburp 7 ай бұрын
KF-21 is another good option. Firepower focused but still has some reduced visibility. Production begins in 2026 though so more of a medium term solution.
@usagispoon9455
@usagispoon9455 7 ай бұрын
​@@georgesikimeti2184 stealth jets cannot enter a peer adversaries airspace without detection. Low frequency radars can detect stealth these days, just can't produce a target track. China can likely detect F-35s while they're still over Taiwan and so they'll know they're coming, just can't shoot them down until they're close. Remember we have a radar watching the whole Pacific Ocean
@jetli740
@jetli740 7 ай бұрын
@@georgesikimeti2184 so f35 never design for dogfight but it have cannon your brain is not functioning?
@PreciousGinika
@PreciousGinika 6 ай бұрын
My favorite Chanel right now.
@bebot2014
@bebot2014 6 ай бұрын
Gen. Lee is correct it is all about QUALITY...
@mn4056933
@mn4056933 7 ай бұрын
Excellent Report
@lionheartx-ray4135
@lionheartx-ray4135 7 ай бұрын
Really i think the F15 EX would be perfect forthe def of Taiwan. It got a very similar radar system and can hold up too 18 amraam missiles.
@IMGreg..
@IMGreg.. 7 ай бұрын
How's the price and cost of operation?
@hoghogwild
@hoghogwild 7 ай бұрын
@@IMGreg.. Expensive.
@lionheartx-ray4135
@lionheartx-ray4135 6 ай бұрын
@@IMGreg.. Cost wise it about the same as a F35A at about 85 million. It does have a lot cost of operations compared too F35A.
@B100085
@B100085 6 ай бұрын
it is a flying tank :D
@quantumcomata105
@quantumcomata105 7 ай бұрын
Excellent conversation
@petermelville5524
@petermelville5524 7 ай бұрын
Great show! General Lee and Guermantes Lailariis are the best voices here. The F16V is still quite viable with its cost and upgrades. It is a verifiable entity. China has no 'proven' Airpower. Their missiles look great. On paper their planes look great but have been still too reliant on Russian tech (engines for example). The quality of their intercepts is extremely low, training-details? Their carriers are just theater-decoys. The KMT is heavily compromised by their connections to the CCP. You can hear it in Alex Huang's lukewarm enthusiasm about Taiwan’s’ defense. The KMT can't win a national election anymore without the CCP interference, so they are suspect. It is odd that they get a seat at the table on this program. The commentator Dennis Hickey, states that the CCP says it is just countering US flight escalation. Wrong, this academic must get a grant from the Confucius Society. The US and Allies honor international norms for rights-of-passage and airspace. The CCP does not. Slava Ukraini, Keep Taiwan Free, DDP.
@egroegny
@egroegny 7 ай бұрын
I do not believe that the KMIT is suspect. KMT is trying to navigate the fine line between maintaining de facto independence and insulting mainland China with outright declaration of independence. The world is getting more and more dangerous. Taiwan has to navigate her future wisely and not be another Ukraine - a sacrificial pawn in a geopolitical chess game.
@Ezekiel903
@Ezekiel903 7 ай бұрын
absolute true, Fujian= from cold start to an emergency mission it takes 48 hours, before it can leave the harbor! Far too little power to cover the entire system! Inexperience of the pilots! Cracks on the deck! and the list goes on. To put it simply: Why they always show synchronized marching? Why do they always show howitzers firing synchronously? the same with tanks? to deceive inexperienced people! And I love US Navy leaders, "Chinese will soon surpass us in every aspect", yes of course, we know their want only protect the immense budget! btw, have you seen the Asian tank competition? a Chinese tank broke apart in front of the public, no joke! video is on YT!
@tracyeaves4847
@tracyeaves4847 6 ай бұрын
True, China is not respecting international air space and sea laws. China military has never been in a modern war, the US is a highly experienced war faring nation with 750 foreign bases which the China will never ever match the US. Having said that the US is aware China can be brought to its knees with little or no direct military action. Fore instance, blockade of energy through the straights of Malacca the US could easily do. China imports 65% of there energy and the US is currently protecting it believe it or not. Or just block a few inputs like materials they use on the soil to grow food, China cant feed its citizens without the inputs, a famine in short order, and complete collapse of the CCP. China is already on its way to decline mainly catastrophic demographics, China has "no means" of producing below 14 nano meter chips, very few people around the world want to immigrate to China to support factory work, heck they weld people in buildings, 100% no human rights at all. Not an attractive country to live in, in fact the wealthy are leaving, trying to get out. Theres more, 90% of China's trading partners are pro US. The US has both hard and soft power China will never match.
@DazednConfused0
@DazednConfused0 7 ай бұрын
If we truly are concerned about Chinese aggression and their growing military capabilities, why is it that western countries are allowing Chinese students to study at their universities?
@bluestar2253
@bluestar2253 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely a no no to sell F35s to Taiwan. Their people are questionable when it comes to which side they choose?
@tonydownunder5703
@tonydownunder5703 6 ай бұрын
Interesting stuff 👍
@SirAndoy
@SirAndoy 6 ай бұрын
There's a big possibility that a pro-china pilot could get hands on the F-35 and bring it to China in 1 hr. That's why US doesn't sell its F-35 to Taiwan.
@jliang70
@jliang70 6 ай бұрын
That is incorrect. Firstly F35 is one of the worst fighter jet, it is a plane from an international joint fighter jet program involving many US allies. Taiwan was not an initial participant of the program. The planes are only delivered to the US and the participants of the joint figherjet program first, those countries have already put a down payment for the fighter jets.
@SirAndoy
@SirAndoy 6 ай бұрын
@@jliang70 one of the worst fighter jet? how do you know? did you fly one? I don't think so. Yes the F-35 is a product of US International Joint Jet Program and yes it has many flaws from the start which was already been or already in the works for improvement ever since its first operational year. Yes the current batches of F-35 is only sold in the US and its partner countries of that program since they are the investors but F-35 is still under FMS and needs approval of the US for a country to buy it. The US already disapprove the sales to Taiwan because of CHINA. US is in fear of Chinese spies in Taiwan since not all Taiwanese are against CCP. My main comment above is also one of the reasons why US will not sell it to Taiwan. This is the same issue with Turkey. They are one of the partners of the program but F-35 sales was denied because Turkey purchased S-400 Anti Air Missile System from Russia which will compromise the secrets of F-35. Read some news and articles first.
@albertgerard4639
@albertgerard4639 7 ай бұрын
This was great
@bodhihearts1011
@bodhihearts1011 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your timely and objective report, Wishing humanity love, and peace in our world.
@allgood6760
@allgood6760 6 ай бұрын
Good work 👍✈️
@kevinmccarthy8746
@kevinmccarthy8746 7 ай бұрын
Hey that guy sounds and is very sweet. I bet he is a christain person to. These people really deserve our help.
@nestorportuguez8964
@nestorportuguez8964 7 ай бұрын
I think there is no problem even there is no Taiwan have no F35. Any moves by China is calculated by Japan. so F35 can easily protect Taiwan in an instant.
@michaelt1775
@michaelt1775 7 ай бұрын
The 13 aircraft carrier are bigger than china's whole navy if you are comparing the actual size as in water displacement and capabilities like firepower. The majority of china's naval vessels are small
@naekosl3059
@naekosl3059 7 ай бұрын
Only the carriers that are close enough to Taiwan to launch aircraft matter. If there are only two carriers, then that is the effective size of the US Navy for the two or three days it takes for Taiwan to fall. Unlike Ukraine that used a backpeddling strategy to gain time for foreign aid, Taiwan doesn't have any land to sacrifice. If Taiwan loses the coastal twenty miles, it is done as even its military airbases and barracks are occupied. European military aid is not in this fight. Has Taiwan tried having strong diplomacy ties to the southeast china seas countries? It doesn't seem so because of the diplomatic cost of asking for help and consideration in cross-training troops together in military exercises. One can't expect Taiwan to be as dedicated towards independence from being conquered as the Philippines or Vietnam, but it would be nice to see Taiwan trying to train up more military troops as well as ensuring the civilians are all RE-trained in mandatory military refresher courses for the upcoming conflict. Oh, it doesn't do that? Why not? Because the great majority of the population will refuse to fight when the actual invasion day occurs.
@somponesakdy826
@somponesakdy826 7 ай бұрын
But I don’t think big carriers can’t stand hundred swarm of Chinese fishing boats
@Bunderwahl
@Bunderwahl 6 ай бұрын
@@naekosl3059 You fail to account for something very important and game-changing. There can not be a surprise attack, the US will see it coming at least a year away, which means that Taiwan and the world will see it coming. You can not hide preparing for a wartime economy and gathering and embarking on an invasion fleet, which takes time, it took the US 6 months to plan and execute the landing at Inchon in the Korean War and that was in wartime with the US maintaining Marine expeditionary forces. To respond to your post directly the carriers won't have to sail from the US, they will be there locked and cocked. Airbases in the region will be bristling with aircraft, logistics will be planned, allies will be gathered, sanctions/blockades will be threatened or already in use, and Taiwan will be turtled up in bunkers with their eyes on the horizon before the first Chinese ship leaves port or the first missile is fired.
@Lyle-In-NO
@Lyle-In-NO 5 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. The guests were clearly knowledgeable & provided additional insight I've never considered. Most importantly, this video was not full of propaganda or political bias.
@AlexLee-dc2vb
@AlexLee-dc2vb 6 ай бұрын
good video
@RicardoMartinez-zh4qp
@RicardoMartinez-zh4qp 6 ай бұрын
Good information but I hope war does not break out
@shauneason5897
@shauneason5897 7 ай бұрын
General Lee is not as I imagined when I was watching Dukes of Hazard back in the 80s
@willywonka4340
@willywonka4340 7 ай бұрын
** honks Dixieland tune* 😂
@fennec-aguyfrompoland786
@fennec-aguyfrompoland786 7 ай бұрын
Great Show so thumb up in advance. ;-)
@f15f16ah64d
@f15f16ah64d 7 ай бұрын
well done G man
@stupidburp
@stupidburp 7 ай бұрын
The main reason why F-35 isn’t going to be an option for Taiwan is because of the extensive espionage going on inside of Taiwan by the Chinese Communist Party. The technology is too sensitive and the CCP has too extensive resources available to spy on it. Another issue is that the PLA has radars and aircraft very close to Taiwan which will make any air combat likely to be at short range. That makes the F-16 a good option since the F-35 has the largest advantage at long range. F-16 block 70 or equivalent are quite good for short range fights and are cost effective enough to acquire in large numbers. F-16 also is cheaper to operate during peace time as the PLA places pressure on RoC military assets, added attrition through higher operational use tempo.
@stupidburp
@stupidburp 7 ай бұрын
However, Taiwan does need some aircraft for long range offensive strikes to replace aging Mirage 2000 and other platforms. F-16s can be used in this role but some reduced observability aircraft would be even more effective. Some new KF-21 Boramae from South Korea might be an option. They will enter production in 2026. They are near ideal as firepower platforms because they have semi stealthy shaping but use large amounts of external weapons. Another option might be to buy used F-2 from Japan. These are similar enough to F-16s to have some crossover in training and components but have a bit longer range from larger wing areas. They also have different but highly capable electronics. Japan is no longer building them but might allow Taiwan to license build new ones from kits if used aircraft are not available.
@nfuryboss
@nfuryboss 7 ай бұрын
F-15Ex is also a good workhorse to carry tons of weapons and fly low on a short hop across the Taiwan straits. In any case, any expectations of a "surprise attack" are very low since both sides are watching the straits like hawks. Won't be surprised if CCP already employed human assets near Taiwan air bases with low-tech binoculars and reported them daily. The Taiwanese are also better off building a delivery system that can mine the straits and sea around Taiwan at a moment's notice. Also, getting lots of HIMARS is a good strategy. But ultimately, it really depends on the Taiwanese willingness to fight when the time comes.
@naekosl3059
@naekosl3059 7 ай бұрын
If Taiwan wants F-35, then it should set aside space for a USA military base where the planes and ships can be maintained with USA military personnel and also have access to the sensitive classified USA military smart missile and smart bomb armaments. It's much better security-wise than Taiwan's telling the USA to transfer over the spare parts, maintenance training, and maintenance crew methods to reconstruct an F-35.
@nfuryboss
@nfuryboss 7 ай бұрын
@@naekosl3059 More expensive and superior weapons like the F-35 won't help them in a protracted war. They should be churning out shells, mines, and missiles day and night, especially anti-ship and anti-aircraft. Taiwan today is probably in a "pray and hope" mode about an invasion from China. Hope they are taking mandatory military service prep and hardening as seriously as the Ukranians. Taiwan should assume that they will have to fight sooner than later as the Ukranian found out soon enough when Putin invaded. It's a matter of time. The sooner they realize that the better it is for their psyche and national unity and efforts. Just counting on their luck and "We are all Chinese" connection to avoid invasion is just pure fantasy.
@naekosl3059
@naekosl3059 7 ай бұрын
@@nfuryboss Taiwan was simply TOO FRUGAL in spending the money to defend itself. It preferred to constantly publicly voice that the USA agreed to defend Taiwan. Trump forced Taiwan to start spending more money instead of a token amount for military hardware. Trump was emphatic that Taiwan needed to strongly participate in its own defense instead of having just a token military to create a delaying force so that the USA would have enough time to show up and pay for Taiwan's defense (aka doing the actual fighting). At that time, Taiwan still had mandatory military draft for military-aged males. This was 4-months of boot camp, but Trump wasn't able to get Taiwan to have a more realistic training period. This december 2023, Taiwan abolished the mandatory military training of males and switched to volunteer military training. This is 14 days per year for several years for both men and women. Taiwan's excuse to eliminate mandatory military training of males was that a mandatory draft had high costs and unproven results in creating quality soldiers. Estimates of participation seem to be that 5% of eligible people participate which shows how little the Taiwanese general population believes in fighting to maintain their freedom.
@GM-fh5jp
@GM-fh5jp 6 ай бұрын
There's no where to hide when your main enemy is a couple of hundred kms away. Taiwan can do without F-35 because it's advanced stealth is expensive and not much use in a small confined combat area. Having big numbers of very capable F-16s carrying heavy missile loads suits their need for a fast climbing, high speed air defense fighter which is plenty capable of handling China's best.
@maninredhelm
@maninredhelm 7 ай бұрын
I can't decide whether stealth should be the top priority for Taiwan or the lowest priority. If we were talking about the navy, I'd say submarines are clearly the better choice over surface ships to fight the massive Chinese navy. But stealth in the air is different. A F-35 isn't like a submarine that can't be targeted by conventional missiles, it's just harder to target, and China will have the area absolutely flooded with radar. And a F-35 can't stay out for long periods like a submarine, it has to return frequently to one of only 8 Taiwanese air bases, making their location and flight paths somewhat predictable. China is likely going to have informants on the ground telling them when fighters have taken off and what direction they went in. And the potential combat area isn't that large, so they can guess the likely targets. So maybe it's better to just have more F-16s in the air over the home island rather than a stealth jet that won't get the full benefit of its stealth, fighting an enemy that won't be surprised it's under attack. How many sneak attack opportunities could the Taiwanese air force really expect to get in an invasion scenario?
@jdedad
@jdedad 6 ай бұрын
One thing not mentioned apart from hardwares is the people and training and experience in war, not to mention the coordination of forces in my mind it’s no comparison
@FAFSAOFFICIAL
@FAFSAOFFICIAL 6 ай бұрын
Very very cool
@johnbui6530
@johnbui6530 7 ай бұрын
The U.S does not want to provide the F-35 because we do not want to escalate. Taiwan is not a closed ally of the U.S either.
@glamdring0007
@glamdring0007 7 ай бұрын
Taiwan will not get F-35 because if China invades and takes the island the planes could fall into Chinese hands. That's not an acceptable risk given the advanced nature of the F-35 vs what China currently has. The Viper is an excellent plane that can handle Chinese J20 as long as Taiwan invests in powerful ground based radars to support it. A bigger issue is having air to air missiles capable of out ranging Chinese missiles.
@amc3463
@amc3463 7 ай бұрын
I don’t see the USA defending Taiwan
@dcc70
@dcc70 6 ай бұрын
Singapore military is closely aligned with China, they even held joint military exercise with the PLA. Why does the US sell F35 to Singapore? China would have access to the advanced avionics that are in Taiwan's new F16V fighters.
@niweshlekhak9646
@niweshlekhak9646 6 ай бұрын
US is not selling F-35 to Singapore.
@youarebeingtrolled6954
@youarebeingtrolled6954 4 ай бұрын
@@niweshlekhak9646singapore already is flying f35s, so according to tom cotton ccp has access to f35😂
@niweshlekhak9646
@niweshlekhak9646 4 ай бұрын
@@youarebeingtrolled6954 Singapore doesn't have any F-35s, US moved away from Singapore as soon as they started doing military drills with China, US didn't even upgrade Singapore's F-16 to block 70 standards. Singapore is saying that to save face and asked Israel to upgrade their F-16s.
@albertocontreras3312
@albertocontreras3312 7 ай бұрын
Military is a complex expensive issue . Unfortunately West Democratic World is being forced into " War Mode " . Reassuringly best Taiwan Talks once more . GOD bless this West - beloved GEM Island along with top Taiwan Talks . Thanks regards , bye .
@johnchiu4560
@johnchiu4560 7 ай бұрын
The military-industrial complex wants war. The U.S. is not "being forced".
@mattycakes1161
@mattycakes1161 7 ай бұрын
The problem with the F-35 is maintenance, both the amount of it needed, expertise needed, and the cost. An F-16 is cheap to operate compared to an F-35. They are both single engine aircraft, which makes them cheaper to operate, but there are a lot more F-16 parts, it's a very proven design, carries a lot of weapons, and 4.5 generation is no joke, that is equal to the J-20 or SU-57, they are 4.5 generation, not true 5th generation aircraft.
@jetli740
@jetli740 7 ай бұрын
F16 is equal to j20 or su57 😂😂😂
@mattycakes1161
@mattycakes1161 7 ай бұрын
@@jetli740 Yeah, if not better. How many engagements have those planes made? How many exist? The J-20 is a bad Chinese copy of the F-35 with bad engines and the SU-57 has the same RCS as the F-16, it isn't even a stealth aircraft. Neither of those are true 5th generation aircraft.
@buildmotosykletist1987
@buildmotosykletist1987 7 ай бұрын
@mattycakes1161 The J20 is a bad copy of the SU-57, it has the same RCS of 1-5.24m2 which is the same as the F18F.
@jetli740
@jetli740 7 ай бұрын
@@buildmotosykletist1987 and base on what evidence? from youtube🤣🤣🤣🤣
@hoghogwild
@hoghogwild 7 ай бұрын
@@buildmotosykletist1987 Absolutely clean Superhornet
@davidcerullo7976
@davidcerullo7976 6 ай бұрын
I remember years ago when China 🇨🇳 objected to USA's selling F-16's to Taiwan 🇹🇼 Obviously, that is not a problem now; however, I suspect China objects to the USA's selling F-35's to Taiwan. That's my take 😂 Taiwan should be regarded by the USA as a cherished allie. ❤
@defectiveclone8450
@defectiveclone8450 6 ай бұрын
The US Navy has the highest combined battle fleet tonnage (4,635,628 tonnes as of 2023) and the world's largest aircraft carrier fleet, with 12 in service, two new carriers under construction, and five other carriers planned. US ships are larger. The issue is that china can buld way more to replace lost ships in a war if it drags on.
@fennec-aguyfrompoland786
@fennec-aguyfrompoland786 7 ай бұрын
Watching from Gdańsk Poland. 😍
@MikeLadnun-un4cs
@MikeLadnun-un4cs 7 ай бұрын
Japan and Twain are our (USA) Friends and we will not betray or abandon you!
@johnchiu4560
@johnchiu4560 7 ай бұрын
They are puppets, not equals.
@tonilim-tw8ep
@tonilim-tw8ep 6 ай бұрын
No money - no talk
@tonyyhap3370
@tonyyhap3370 7 ай бұрын
Just Remember that Quantity has a Quality of it's Own!! At some Point especially in a Impending Military Conflict, Numbers WILL Matter!! Remember back in World War 2, The Allies defeated the Luftwaffe and the German Army because the Allies had Larger Quantities of Aircraft and Tanks 😉
@markusoswe
@markusoswe 7 ай бұрын
Great content! Needs a bigger audience!
@hazlinabdulhamid7461
@hazlinabdulhamid7461 6 ай бұрын
Malaysia noted..🇲🇾
@bernardjameswilson
@bernardjameswilson 2 ай бұрын
Congress just pointed out that only 29% of f35s are operational. So they might just be stocking up on the ones that work for themselves first before they sell it.
@tobyihli9470
@tobyihli9470 5 ай бұрын
Saying the F35 wasn’t bought because of the cost is not true. The F35 is cheaper than the F16 block 70.
@wric01
@wric01 6 ай бұрын
Google the first submarine of taiwan and you'll know why they are abandoned a second time before it even starts.😅
@jasongunningham9545
@jasongunningham9545 7 ай бұрын
I stand with Taiwan
@harrybaulz666
@harrybaulz666 6 ай бұрын
Biggest fear is losing tech advantage to spying or defection
@fennec-aguyfrompoland786
@fennec-aguyfrompoland786 7 ай бұрын
The One and Only independent Taiwan.
@kietv.7189
@kietv.7189 6 ай бұрын
When you mention the war,you have to go to the very weakest location like Three Gorge Dam first and the other second i mean the destroy targets
@youarebeingtrolled6954
@youarebeingtrolled6954 4 ай бұрын
Dam can withstand a nuclear blast its a gravity dam. Also they will respond with nukes
@ericfitzpatrick5319
@ericfitzpatrick5319 7 ай бұрын
The F35 must stay in American arsenal only.
@hoghogwild
@hoghogwild 7 ай бұрын
Canada's buying 88 of them.
@Clee-os6pv
@Clee-os6pv 7 ай бұрын
The F-35 has been proven top be bad it has more stories going into the sea than staying in the air. Also? The fact the US is willing to selling them tells you even more the F-35 is bad.
@sundutt6205
@sundutt6205 7 ай бұрын
Why US can not fight directly with China?
@tanpengjoo7205
@tanpengjoo7205 6 ай бұрын
@sundutt6205, Because America don't want to kill n damage innocent chinese people n their properties, America are against the c c p not innocent people
@johnyan836
@johnyan836 6 ай бұрын
The combined battle vessels from Japan, Korea and Taiwan are more than 300. People ignore this part of statistics.
@douglasbuchanan2973
@douglasbuchanan2973 6 ай бұрын
GOD BLESS LOVE TRUTH and PEACE FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RSVP
@bedjrocks5550
@bedjrocks5550 6 ай бұрын
Sorry Taiwan u cant have those toys or else u sell them to your relatives 😂
@ahcexterior3593
@ahcexterior3593 6 ай бұрын
alexander huang( the guy on the center ) is a pro china from KMT party. Shouldn’t trust him on Taiwan military & into political remarks. He is pro china and doesn’t want Taiwan to have Good military defense. Taiwan have many traitors.
@joerosa170
@joerosa170 7 ай бұрын
But I do believe that taking Taiwan would be a losing battle for china.
@johnbucher2077
@johnbucher2077 7 ай бұрын
I hope you are right. But I think it depends who else joins in the defense of Taiwan. Consider what is happening with western support for Ukraine. I would be very nervous.
@jetli740
@jetli740 7 ай бұрын
@@johnbucher2077 u miss another important part taiwan is an island, it will not get any more support if war start.
@buildmotosykletist1987
@buildmotosykletist1987 7 ай бұрын
@@jetli740 : Yet Japan has committed to the defence of Taiwan.
@jetli740
@jetli740 7 ай бұрын
@@buildmotosykletist1987 If japan committed to the defence of Taiwan that mean japan bring war back to it own country. Question is - is japan prepare to have a war on it door step.
@buildmotosykletist1987
@buildmotosykletist1987 7 ай бұрын
@@jetli740 : Japan has already committed to defend Taiwan. "Japanese officials have said that if mainland China attacks the island, Japan would defend it."
@BarraganNathan
@BarraganNathan 6 ай бұрын
"...usually how far away?" "I dont know. That's classified" (Chuckles heard) nice try though 😂
@IIIw2
@IIIw2 7 ай бұрын
i always suggest watching the first episode of attack on titan when they break though the wall, and people are unprepared. and Will f-35 be used to attack China? my question is in a war between china and Taiwan will Taiwan attack china on their mainland or will taiwan goes on the defensive and defend themselves?
@geronimomiles312
@geronimomiles312 6 ай бұрын
They don't expect to defend themselves anyway . No need to expose the tech to Chinese reverse-engineering.
@johnC2537
@johnC2537 6 ай бұрын
In my own opinion, the US military top secret stealth jet fighter not yet available to sell unless the next generations discovered. And it is very sohisticated for sure!
@user-jgn1944
@user-jgn1944 6 ай бұрын
Seriously. Is 2024 possibly going to be a W W 3?
@JimFeig
@JimFeig 6 ай бұрын
Taiwan should develop stealth cruise missiles as a deterrent.
@bumbum4592
@bumbum4592 7 ай бұрын
ROC forever Ccp Never !
@tommohsien888
@tommohsien888 6 ай бұрын
Correction-the new radar on the new F35 is better than F16V. Taiwan doesn't have to buy F-35. I imagine if US really want to help, they can have F35 American pilots train secretly with Taiwanese pilots on F16V. I imagine F35 on Phillipine or Okinawa bases to be safer than on Taiwan and can easily join formation or pass targets to Taiwanese pilots.
@silverlining6824
@silverlining6824 7 ай бұрын
Of all the TV channels and programs in east Asia, this anchor woman has the unique voice and accent that are at once authoritative yet comforting. Subscribe!!!
@justliberty4072
@justliberty4072 7 ай бұрын
The American people are not at all alarmed at Chinese flights off the coast of Alaska.
@lisaroberts8556
@lisaroberts8556 7 ай бұрын
Yes they were. But the Media and Pentagon played it down because it made Joe Biden look very weak and compromised. Which he is. 😮
@jetli740
@jetli740 7 ай бұрын
yes they do, fox new- "China prepare invasion" other media said similar
@nouser129
@nouser129 6 ай бұрын
The reason why the US do not sell the latest technology to Taiwan is the possibility of Taiwan, in the future, may move closer to China and as a result, the technology could be transferred to an enemy nation. Case in point, in the current, 2024, Taiwan election, there are two, out of three, candidates who advocate a closer tie with Beijing.
@wes0112
@wes0112 6 ай бұрын
Why Taiwan Can't Obtain F-35 Stealth Fighter Jets - taiwan probably lack of requirements to obtain f-35, also the security since there's a chinook heist happened. i don't think there will be a transition of latest tech coming from t2-t1 allied countries.
@fatbowe
@fatbowe 6 ай бұрын
China"s J20 carries 6 modern missiles inside its fuselage.. The F35 only 4..
@GilbertoMontuya-pq5qn
@GilbertoMontuya-pq5qn 6 ай бұрын
The reason if in the future the pro unification win China might can have an access of this 5th gen fighter china might copy.
@albertbray3221
@albertbray3221 6 ай бұрын
👍
@kietv.7189
@kietv.7189 6 ай бұрын
Because the Us seem not trust chinese pilot in Taiwan Air Force
@justinvang561
@justinvang561 6 ай бұрын
That's because the island of Taiwan's inhabitants are mostly Chinese. There is a reason why? There government is called the ROC "Republic of China". And they speak a Chinese dialect and are using Chinese characters.
@Bunderwahl
@Bunderwahl 6 ай бұрын
The real reason, and I am surprised none of the guests mentioned it, that Taiwan will not get the F-35 is twofold. First and most importantly arms sold to Taiwan are meant to prevent a war and China seeing Taiwan getting such an advanced weapon might provoke them to act. The second reason is that the US wants to make sure that limited money from Taiwan and the US taxpayer gets the most bang for the buck, the F-35 would not be targeted and might not survive the initial attack so is it better to sell them an F-35, or three F-16s with air-launched anti-ship missiles? Or a patriot battery? We want to make sure that whatever we give to Taiwan increases Taiwan's ability to defend itself and current thinking is that spreading out aid to survivable dispersed weapons systems is preferable to a few high-value weapons that would just be targets is better. Oh, on the ships two measurements are commonly used, number of ships and tonnage. The number of ships each side has can be deceiving as a measurement. As the general pointed out quality and experience trump numbers alone, the discussion only highlighted America vs China, but America's greatest strength is its alliances and their navies were not included. The other method of judging fleet strength is tonnage, the amount of water displaced by that nation's navy, using that as the standard the US ranks above the next seven navies combined which include Russia AND China, the others in that 7 are mostly close allies to the United States.
@lexbeats
@lexbeats 6 ай бұрын
I can’t deal with the her humming in agreement every time some one utters 2 words when making a point. She needs to address that….its distracting
@jeromeearnest5385
@jeromeearnest5385 6 ай бұрын
Common sense I wouldn't supply them because if Taiwan is invaded it would jeopardize sensitive military technology so no I would not. Sorry but that's a problem
@impossibleisjustanopinion9898
@impossibleisjustanopinion9898 7 ай бұрын
Great channel...🙏 🇺🇸🇹🇼🇯🇵💛
@tanpengjoo7205
@tanpengjoo7205 6 ай бұрын
How to compare made in china j with MADE IN USA fighter jets , just ask how many countries in the world are flying made in china jets not even a made in china commercial plane not to mention fighter jets .
@milsimgamer
@milsimgamer 6 ай бұрын
As of now, it appears that S. Korea is and will be a great source for aircraft and ships that the RoC might have a need for, and the US is not capable of providing immediately. World demand for US military equipment has gone through the roof after it's showing against the Russians in Ukraine.
@porksandbean
@porksandbean 7 ай бұрын
afraid of ROC losing an F35 IP to the CCP.
@Benz2533
@Benz2533 7 ай бұрын
How do you know that it did not already lose to CCP already ? The US research that get hack a few years back.
@jetli740
@jetli740 7 ай бұрын
when the f35 flying china can track it radar signature and finetune their missile. that the reason F35 will never sold to taiwan
@Benz2533
@Benz2533 7 ай бұрын
@@jetli740 Radar might not pick up the jets but the air disturbance and heat can still be detected.
@jetli740
@jetli740 7 ай бұрын
@@Benz2533 conventional radar may have problem detect stealth jet at a distance, but taiwan is so close to china shore it can detect it to some extend as no stealth jet are completely undetectable from radar. using Multistatic radars at such a close distance i dont think china have problem detect it.
@user-nh5bt4py9l
@user-nh5bt4py9l 6 ай бұрын
Hands down Americas navy has countless hours of experiance at sea than do the chinese......That is a huge factor
@alabioluwadamilare1028
@alabioluwadamilare1028 7 ай бұрын
Taiwan should be aware not to be use as an experiment to the Chinese navy, also a weapon testing site.
@kiloromeo4725
@kiloromeo4725 7 ай бұрын
The host was not prepared. Simple research beforehand would have been taken 1 hour at most prior to filming. Instead, she sounded incompetent. In addition, instead of asking a question, she makes a statement that sounds factual and expects a reaction from the guests. "TaiwanPlus values your feedback!" Taiwan Talks could do better.
@milsimgamer
@milsimgamer 6 ай бұрын
RE nuclear weaponry and Chinese capabilities, the US should go to a launch on warning defense posture. We should also encourage Japan, The RoC, and the RoK to develop theater range strategic ballistic missile capabilities. Just why a rouge nation like N. Korea s/b allowed such, while the sane democratic nations of the region should not is absolutely beyond me. I firmly believe that these nations having such would change the arithmetic so greatly even the PRC would think 10 times before starting a war of any kind.
@eurojamsound5133
@eurojamsound5133 6 ай бұрын
God forbid if mankind follows God instructions mankind would not need to war with each other.
@danlemke6407
@danlemke6407 7 ай бұрын
I think some posters in here mentioned a very important aspect and that is training and experience. How many hours are the pilots getting. I think that is one area that is affected by their economy. Chinese engines have to be rebuilt more often and are not as powerful as even what Russia offers. I do not think there is much trust between Russia and China as has been made out. I think the main issue is NOT going to war and finding out. I want to thank Taiwan Talks for the frank and open discussions, rather than the politically charged and often misleading content of the main stream media. The media of all the major powers is part of the problem. It is like they are urging the war, so they have more news to sell. This was a much better format, and very professional. Thank you .
@shawnwhitter5968
@shawnwhitter5968 5 ай бұрын
My brothers and sisters in Taiwan, I wish the US could send F35's but it's not the best idea at this current time for a number of reasons. Firstly, the US still owes many other countries F35's; we currently owe Japan over 100. It would take a long time to receive the planes. F35's are very costly to not only to buy, but to also maintain and update. I think the ROC should invest into SAM's and anti-ship missiles. I'm also not sure if the F35 is the best plane for Taiwan at the moment. Because of the proximity to China, I think Taiwan should have more air superiority fighters instead of the F35. A plane like the KF-21 would be perfect for Taiwan. Definitely the number one reason is security. For certain CCP spies in Taiwan would do everything they could to get any data on the F35 and in worst scenario, a pilot defects to China with an F35. It's just too high a risk the US and Taiwan can't afford to take. I do hope the US continues to support Taiwan in any way they can but pray most of all that Taiwan will never have to use any of their military equipment. Love from New York❤
@davidlaw9686
@davidlaw9686 6 ай бұрын
Basically it is because the US know Taiwan belongs to China. Its just a matter of time thered be reunification. Japan eternally will never acceot China, although they were originally from China.
@Benz2533
@Benz2533 7 ай бұрын
Is this the kind of stuff that Japan should be investing in right now? Consider how Japanese Yen drop pretty hard.
@stupidburp
@stupidburp 7 ай бұрын
Japan should invest in 100-200 F-15EX for enhanced interception and long range strike capabilities. They are familiar with legacy F-15s and these could be integrated smoothly with little effort. These would completely replace the retiring F-4 and then could gradually replace some of the F-2 and F-15J. The rest of their fighters could be replaced by more F-35s or future stealth fighters in development. F-15 EX is a capable currently available platform that would be an upgrade from current inventories and deliverable in a short time span to meet urgent needs and respond to growing threats.
@Benz2533
@Benz2533 7 ай бұрын
@@stupidburp I don't know about investing in military right now when Japan having so much problem of their own in other sector. and the current equipment is not that bad to begin.
@buildmotosykletist1987
@buildmotosykletist1987 7 ай бұрын
@@Benz2533 : If the CCP succeed taking Taiwan, the biggest loser is Japan. That's why Japan has committed to defend Taiwan.
@marksantiago7003
@marksantiago7003 7 ай бұрын
we support taiwan independence
@jetli740
@jetli740 7 ай бұрын
"we support taiwan independence" mean you want war to start right?
@buildmotosykletist1987
@buildmotosykletist1987 7 ай бұрын
@@jetli740 : Taiwan is independent.
@jetli740
@jetli740 7 ай бұрын
@@buildmotosykletist1987 independent by your own definition but not to the world
@buildmotosykletist1987
@buildmotosykletist1987 7 ай бұрын
@@jetli740 : Has the CCP ever ruled Taiwan ? Nope. So how can they reunify if they were never unified in the first place !
@dannylesbile8592
@dannylesbile8592 6 ай бұрын
The PLAN is an inexperienced Tofu navy China hasn't fought a naval engagement in over 150 years in the time of sail
@Clee-os6pv
@Clee-os6pv 7 ай бұрын
Here are my reasons? 1. The ROC can't afford it. 2. A lot of people are forgetting and don't realize the people living in Taiwan are also Chinese as well. There is a reason why they speak a Chinese dialect and even using Chinese characters for their writing system. So huge chance of one of them serving in the military will leak it into the heartland of China. 3. F-35 only works if your enemies can't shoot it down or track it. But? This is China they have the tech and weapons to take it down for good before they can launch them into the air. 4. Same reason in number 2? China will be able to improve them they will also know how it works and know it's weakness to counter it. 5. This will mostly force China into attacking the island of Taiwan much sooner than later. I have said this before China will never attack first unless you force China to attack first. The ROC getting F-35 might be the last straw and crossing the line. EDIT: The F-35 has been proven to be a bad fighter aircraft anyways. I hear more about it crushing into the waters than staying up in the air and skies.
@yc-tai
@yc-tai 5 ай бұрын
US MIC rubbing hands in glee & shouting "Show me the MONEY" Drum beating & playing with fire at the FRONT DOOR...... Hope this is not all talk & NO TROUSERS......
@lazarusperce1806
@lazarusperce1806 7 ай бұрын
If Taiwanese pilot of CH-47 Chinook Helicopter an ancient Helicopter US Made was bribe by China why in the world US would sell to Taiwanese F-35? where is the common sense on this 😂😂😂
@nfuryboss
@nfuryboss 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@ryelor123
@ryelor123 7 ай бұрын
And you also have to keep in mind that espionage is a greater threat. If the UK was an adversary of yours, you wouldn't want to give advanced technology to an English speaking country that has a conflict with the UK since there will always be some people who would gladly help the UK by giving them your secrets. Not everyone in Taiwan wants the nation to be sovereign. There's plenty edgy young men in every country that eat up the propaganda of their adversaries. There are plenty of people who would give their lives to backstab their own nation if they were manipulated by a rival state. Look at Edward Snowdan.
@kevinmccarthy8746
@kevinmccarthy8746 7 ай бұрын
Hey guys, The white expert, then all of a sudden chimes in OH, OH, YA, we got a few AIRCRAFT CARRIERS floasting around out there too, just in case. The Tiwaunese girl kind of made these wierd faces, like all of a sudden she realized how incredible the amound of fire power was available not counting the subs cruise missiles. She had a battle with her face trying not to look blown awazy by all this.
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