Thanks for doing this comparison of my vehicle against the Emira which I also had a deposit on. It came down to dealer network and the more subtle stealthy look of the Cayman. The Emira is definitely a looker and would turn too many heads for my liking. I just wished they offered PCCB for my model year only the 2020’s had them. The brake dust on the black wheels is a nightmare!
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the opportunity!! Great car and great choice. Enjoy it in good health
@JohnnyDLaw Жыл бұрын
emira is too slow for what it costs
@broder998 Жыл бұрын
My car is build in 2023 and has PCCB, because I ordered it 2021, a few weeks before they closed this option ;o) - lucky me...
@drunvert9 ай бұрын
Ceramic coat them
@trigganometry1688 ай бұрын
@@drunvert. I did ceramic coat my wheels but that doesn't make the brake dust go away. It is easier to clean though.
@adamf.85647 ай бұрын
Lotus or Porsche, is a no-brainer but more like a personal preference. For me, it's the Porsche, and there is no alternative.
@JeffJacquesmd Жыл бұрын
I have this Cayman in FrozenBerry Metallic, PDK. Drive her daily in the Bay Area , she puts a smile on my face whether Im on backroads, highway, or going to get groceries. The engine and the balance are awesome. Excellent vid
@pininfarina5757 ай бұрын
I got the Cayman GTS 4.0 as well. For one, I did have my name in the bucket for an Emira, as well, but the experience is just non-existent? no nothing for a year and I'm like whatever, I'm over it. Where as Porsche experience is... more than just the car itself. Lotus, it's just the car and that's it. 2. The Porsche, even though it can just be a fun weekend car, it can also be a daily. Where as, the Lotus, even with it being much more refined, somehow to me it feels like a second car at best to me. 3. Even between mid-engined cars, there are mid-engined cars that make you feel like you're sitting on the nose of the car over the front axle vs the Cayman that still makes you feel like you're also in the middle of the car. and that changes the dynamics for me dramatically. to me, the cayman rotates around you vs the Emira feels a bit more like the rear swings around you. It's hard to explain... 3. The engine.. my gawd the engine... The Lotus, even when supercharged, it's basically the same engine family as my old IS350, my Tacoma - the 2GR-xxx 3.5L v6. Really not special at all. I don't want to pay $100k and when I park the Emira next to my Tacoma know in my hear that the two have the same heart. 4. Yes the Emira looks like an exotic car, but Even the cayman in the right bright color looks amazing. Mine is Lava Orange. and just last week, a dude in a blue Range Rover stopped me on the street and asked what color it was and said "that car is fcking hot man! fcking hot!". In the right color the Cayman also turns all kinds of heads.
@justinsugay1149 Жыл бұрын
I lean (no pun intended) to do track days on my GSXR. This GTS 4.0 would be the ideal daily I think. So, like you said if you're not tracking the car this is the one to get. It is tempting to pony up 5k more here, 5k more there and 10 min later on the Porsche website you've spec'd out a 300k car; this seems to be the attainable sweetspot imho. Naturally aspirated flat 6 w that manual sounds like heaven, also Porsche reliability comparatively!
@eddiehill1992 Жыл бұрын
I have the Cayman and love it . There is no other car!
@amac8487 Жыл бұрын
I own a 2.5 cayman GTS and love it. The torque band, the steering, the balance… it’s nimble and quick and a blast to whip in and out of traffic. I split it as daily driver use with a few other cars I have. I just drove from Savannah Georgia to Orlando fl on 1 tank of gas round trip. That’s insane! The exhaust note isn’t “as” good as a 6 or 8, obviously, but it honestly still sounds great. I also have a flat 6 992, and a Shelby GT350.. and as glorious as those are, the 4cyl does not dissapoint
@firdaushanapiah7691 Жыл бұрын
I would like to agree on your comments!!😊
@LateNightDateNight Жыл бұрын
I have the same car, used to have a 981 with the flat 6 and the 2.5t fits this chassis SO much better. It’s the most fun car I’ve ever owned, the boost pressure is insane
@1ROCKY89 Жыл бұрын
I know what you’re saying. The more you step on it the better the sounds. The 2.5 it fits my BGTS so well its so light and quick at everything. I opted for the PDk because it is so dang fast. Unless you actually drive this car spirited will you understand its 911 Turbo S VTG derived benefits - near zero lag full torque beginning at 1900 rpm all the way to 5500. That’s this model appeal. I am still quite fond of my manual 987.1 CS 3.4 and manual M3 sedan V8 for their sounds and driving characteristics as well. If I had room for a fourth I would strongly consider the manual 4.0 or the Emira or possibly an Exige. Should I consider trading the 2.5 for the 4.0 for a 40k trade premium? Absolutely not. What if the cost was zero would I go for the 4.0? I cant say because I haven’t driven the 4.0. I do know that I am very happy with what I have. Ok well how about the CS 3.4 for a CGTS for an 80k trade premium? Definitely if I could have just one sports car otherwise no I’m good with the 3.4. I smile every time I drive it. Anyway they are all great cars and the Shelby GT350 sounds like a real privilege as well.
@Malcom2345 Жыл бұрын
Ive had a few caymans my 718 2.5 being number 6 😀 struggled upgrading from my 981 glorious 6 to the 2.5 but omg, what car! Stage 2 tune has me pulling harder then a gt3 over the quarter! Insane how hard this motor can pull numbers. Its also much better as a daily driver with high numbers coming from low. Tbh my biggest question was over possible turbo lag post tune but non existent thanks to it adopting the 911 vgt
@Dragobrath Жыл бұрын
I got Cayman. Mostly because it was available for a test drive and there was at least some sort of deadline for delivery. But overall even if I had options, I'd still go for Cayman, because PDK is better than torque converter that goes with V6. I also like the subtle looks more, and the practicality is much better. Had it for 2 weeks, couldn't be happier with it.
@StefBelgium Жыл бұрын
You mean you have the regular turbo flat 4? I have the 718T tuned with a Kline Innovation downpipe, sport cat 100 cells, remap and it s now at 392 hp . It s a blast! Love mine too with the pDK and sport chrono. This gives consistent 3.7s 0 to 62. Already looking for the next one but hesitate between the C7 z06 or the new Lotus Emira. But I live the 718 for sure! Enjoy yours bro.
@Dragobrath Жыл бұрын
@@StefBelgium Thanks! I see you're already having fun with yours :P I am still amazed at how much power you can squeeze out of these 2L boxers. I got 4 liter flat 6. The lack of torque in lower end is noticeable and it does not give you rocket launches, but I like the linear power delivery.
@J-_-S Жыл бұрын
@@Dragobrath just give it a tune for engine and pdk gearbox.
@Rex_Racer Жыл бұрын
I ordered the Emira. The looks, steering, and damper compliance were my main reasons. I had a 911S that I loved; I couldn’t buy a Boxster/Cayman because I’d rather have another 911. I don’t have that issue with the Emira.
@lucastebomgumiero2177 Жыл бұрын
992> any 718 hope you get another one soon bro
@shaneh734 Жыл бұрын
Love the Lowe-end induction sound! Reminds me of driving all the exotic cars in video games as a kid!
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
Intoxicating 🤤
@broder998 Жыл бұрын
I got the last GTS produced with PCCB 10 days ago and this car is a hammer! Forget the Lotus, it is overprized british crap. The GTS 4.0 is in my opinion too low priced by Porsche compared to the 911 and what the car can do. In Germany the long gearing is no problem, because in smal twisty roads there is no radar and no cops, you just go as fast as you want. Topspeed after 3000km running in was 323 on the speedo, that was quite unexpected and is quite crazy...
@BurnsRubber Жыл бұрын
Your GTS 4.0 did 200mph? That’s crazy. Must have been a strong tail wind? Have you seen these engines make 500hp after exhaust and tune?
@broder998 Жыл бұрын
@@BurnsRubber It was in the area of Göttingen (Germany) and maybe it was a bit downhill, but not much. I cant explain it myself. It just reved up and up and did not stop... I am not interested in tuning my GTS 4.0, I will only adjust camber a bit. This car ist my 12 month daily. For the Nordschleife I have a 964 C2 with 4.1 liter... ;o)
@BurnsRubber Жыл бұрын
@@broder998 Nice daily! I have a GTS 4.0 manual in Gentian Blue on order, should get it before the end of the year. Jealous you have the nordschleife to play on!
@tluehrig8 ай бұрын
Oh, great! So your GTS 4.0 is 18 km/h faster than a GT4 RS (speedo) - you can check reviews on KZfaq. And by the way: I drive a Cayman GTS 4.0 myself and in Germany too…
@BMWWolf Жыл бұрын
I’d go Porsche for the sole reason that I could get it serviced more easily
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
Very real point that many of us don't think about until it's too late
@archmilon Жыл бұрын
the colour of this cayman is super cool, my dream car is this porsche 4.0 gts and i like it even more now
@duanejohnson831 Жыл бұрын
I had an Emira on order and after nearly 18 months and still no ETA I cancelled the order and went for the GTS. Now that I have seen an Emira in the flesh for the first time in Australia and the finish quality I am so glad I went with the Porsche. So many issues with the Emira
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
What issues are you seeing with Emira?
@duanejohnson831 Жыл бұрын
@@jubbalandcars From what I have seen in reviews and on forums there are a few minor issues on the stereo (not that you buy a car like this for the radio) wiper controls not working, ECU issues, trim coming off and there seems to be a design issue with the rear boot lid that when there is water there and you open the rear to get to the boot the water goes over the motor and into the boot. Compare that to the build quality of the Porsche and there is no competition.
@chrisharris4223 Жыл бұрын
I had a deposit down on an Emira but got cold feet and bought one of these. I tested the Emira and it was every bit a very special car, amazing looks, steering, interior, feel, sound (love the SC wheeze) but I just wasn’t comfortable spending that amount of money on something that seemed to be a bit flaky still, maybe after a year or so of production they will be better. Each time I went to see it there was a small issue (it wouldn’t turn on one time, or the boot wouldn’t open were two problems). The GTS is in my mind is almost perfect, doesn’t look or feel quite as special and the steering isn’t as ‘alive’ as the Lotus (but the Emira can be a bit twitchy, I guess you get used to it) but the build quality is absolutely fantastic, the stereo (Bose in mine) is great and it is far more easy to live with - better storage and your stuff doesn’t get wet when you open the boot (crazy design flaw on the lotus). The Emira is an incredible car and I love it but it’s not for me. My GTS is Python green and all black (callipers, Porsche logo etc) and I love it! Nice video :)
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
Can’t go wrong either way. Enjoy!
@BurnsRubber Жыл бұрын
Muddy Mines road! Just ordered a GTS 4.0L Cayman MT this afternoon from Porsche Livermore. Great review. “F yes” - perfectly summarized.
@shelloiluk Жыл бұрын
My 992 911S was the best daily till I crashed it and got 9 out possible 12 points for speeding. I’ve ordered another one delivery 2024. Till then I got a new slow Audi to carry me through
@jandejong820910 ай бұрын
I am biased, as i have a 2015 Boxster GTS, manual transmission and i have a 2024Boxster GTS 4.0 on order. It took me almost two years to decide what to buy and the Emira was second on the list. The deciding factor is build quality. With a low production British car you must count on quality issues, ranging from electrical issues to trim issues and everything-in between. When i go for a drive i want to enjoy the drive and not worry about breakdowns or get annoyed with squeaks or rattles. Although the Emira beats the Boxster in looks every day, looking at the car in the garage being repaired gets long in the tooth quickly, hence my choice for Porsche. As an FYI with 40,000 km’s on the clock, never over the last 8 years did i have a problem with the Porsche period.
@jubbalandcars10 ай бұрын
Valid reason and valid points.Can see people going both ways as two great options
@001sander2 Жыл бұрын
Oooh I need to check out your Lotus drive now 😊
@wday482 Жыл бұрын
I changed my GTS4.0 shifter to the GT4 short shifter which feels mildly-moderately shorter & stiffer. Now debating whether to swap it to the Numeric shifter with the stiffer spring which will make it more mechanical & bolt action in feel.
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
I loved the numeric in the 911T I drove - review coming out in a few weeks
@nairbyad71882 ай бұрын
did you mention which has a more comfortable ride on everyday roads? your title falls short of the answer. i'm planning to pick one of these two up at the factory and touring europe and this video didn't help me pick
@ene1818 Жыл бұрын
I love my 718 with PDK. It’s totally awesome.
@tylerthompson1947 Жыл бұрын
Cayman 4.0 GTS over the Lotus ten times out of ten.
@TheMrHotwheels Жыл бұрын
Very good review, thanks
@alexandram9477 Жыл бұрын
I envy your dilemma! I'm happy with my 22 BRZ 6MT but those are dream cars. I'd probably go with the Porsche just because that engine and the interior quality/design, but the Lotus for everything else. I'm not a huge fan of the Cayman body style, on the other hand the Lotus is insane gorgeous.
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
Can’t go wrong with either choice
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
This thing is child's play compared to the V6 Accord you pulled up next to at the end though 👌👌👌
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
Truth
@drstevej2527 Жыл бұрын
Meaning you are a soccer mom!
@CruiseControl1 Жыл бұрын
Looks and sounds great and probably even better to drive.
@bufftammy73528 күн бұрын
I the fact I'm only 23 and can't quite afford one of these things before they make it a hybrid system.
@xxbulldog12xx2 ай бұрын
which road is this? Looks familiar to me. Maybe Livermore, or on the way up to Mt. Hamilton?
@prazzy4712 Жыл бұрын
nice review, great detail and enthusiasm I have a cgts 4.0 manual, would go for the emira as a second car but the gts 4.0 if I could only have one car in terms of enjoyment it's really how much you value a special engine over other aspects of a car, the supercharged Toyota v6 can't compare to a NA porsche flat six
@guitfan1954 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the cayman is most likely a better performer as well as more reliable… but the Emira looks beautiful. That’s a tough one… I guess it depends on what’s more important to you.
@Ghanshyam00000 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this review I like Porsche Cayman Gts but I'm a little disappointed with two things carbon bucket seats and just two seats even some people will be disappointed about this but overall this car looks great sound is nice
@michaelblaes9847 Жыл бұрын
I love Caymans color. Beautiful!
@pec6118 Жыл бұрын
Similar driving experiences but more modern interior and exterior in the Emira!
@kotaku46 Жыл бұрын
Awesome review! I have a GT350 and recently sold it for a GTS4.0 PDK. However I am not impressed with the engine noise and feels missing my third paddle. Should I get a manual GT4 or switch back to the 350? Or maybe you could do a comparison video between the gts4.0 and GT4? Thanks you.
@HaitiCult7 ай бұрын
Cayman GTS 4.0 all day, it’s gonna still work after 4-5 years. Plus that engine::::::::::::::::❤
@ElJefeDeMundo Жыл бұрын
Love your channel and Zy’s! If one doesn’t have a vid out the other does. Tbh I think I would get both. I would buy what I think would be harder to get your hands on in prestigious condition. I would also base my decision if I were to buy one used which one could I live with not being the original owner. Id probably get the Porsche because eventually they will all be PDK. The cayman is a do it all kind of car to me and works for every occasion and entire. Then I double back for the lotus when funds permitted lol
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! That’s the dream, to get both
@981_pdk3 Жыл бұрын
I own a Cayman 981 but I wouldn’t consider a Cayman as best everyday Porsche. For me that’s my Macan GTS 2023. I also would consider if I could afford it the new 911 Dakar. The Macan faired very well against the Dakar in a recent Carwow test.
@johnm51315 ай бұрын
the Emira would need to come with its own towtruck to be taken seriously. I got my deposit back and went Cayman
@jubbalandcars5 ай бұрын
LOL dramatic my guy but enjoy the Cayman
@chrisedge50076 ай бұрын
The interior is old but still way better than new cars so we’ll build and as you would want it
@absolutely2935 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that 2.5 GTS - great car
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
Great car but the 4.0 gives that much more
@SuperWolffie Жыл бұрын
i will take........both. But without the roof (Boxster) and that lovely , beautifull Lotus..........I wish...
@jonfrench7133 Жыл бұрын
You said it, the engine in the p car is just special and the engine is the soul of any sports car. The toyota engine in the emira will always be the weakest link with an annoying whine
@jacebeleren429 Жыл бұрын
I think you are confusing pasm with traction control. You WANT pasm on for sure. I own a gts4.0 fwiw.
@jacebeleren429 Жыл бұрын
actually wait, I am wrong & you are right, I was confusing pasm with pdcc
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
Road too bumpy for PASM being engaged
@jenniferharris7633 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely no question I'd go with the GTS for several reasons: 1. More dealerships around the country means more service locations. 2. The 4 cylinder inline 6 is a tried and true, reliable engine. 3. It's a prettier car.
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
2. Flat 6 3. Agree to disagree
@occultustactical6138 Жыл бұрын
You couldn’t find a better road? Love the high rev 4.0 sound. Funny HP and torque numbers seem unimpressive but what a car.
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
I think this is a great road - a bit bumpy at times to help assess suspension rather than a glass surfaced canyon road
@dabjabar Жыл бұрын
Lucky to have you in my shoes… I too am waiting on an Emira order but cross shopping a Boxster/Cayman GTS and if finances allow, a Spyder. I really love the Porsche build quality compared to the currently-glitchy-and-delayed Emira. However, it’s also very much about looks, drama, and driving experience. First world problems. Ps, surprised to hear you say the Emira has a better transmission. Granted, I have yet to drive the Emira. All my perspective has been based on other’s reviews.
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised with Emira transmission considering prior lotus gear shifts. Better shifter, worse clutch feel and clutch pedal placement
@dabjabar Жыл бұрын
@@jubbalandcars Given the Emira’s pedal placement, I can see that. Regarding the clutch, I heard the take up point changes over some break in miles. Hopefully it simply gets better. If I go Porsche, I think I’d go for the Boxster. That way, even if you can’t wind out the gears, you’ll still have the open air experience for a heightened sense of occasion.
@mikelyon5595 Жыл бұрын
The Lotus will likely spend more time in the shop!
@alphabeta84038 ай бұрын
8:00 Emira 6MT FTW!
@DANNY4037911 ай бұрын
what color is that? thanks
@chanhyung887 ай бұрын
Porsche 4L just hits differently
@jenniferharris763311 ай бұрын
Is that Agate Gray or Aventurine Green?
@jimj2683 Жыл бұрын
I have a really hard time choosing between this and the Lotus Emira. Lotus Emira sounds better, has better steering feedback, better suspension and better looks. But this Porsche has better quality, better service, narrower, more practical.
@sean-yt8bm Жыл бұрын
One thing nobody talks about is the fact that digitalisation (which the emira is a victim of now with a full digital dashboard and big screen in the middle) is the first thing to look horrible in the interior with time, and I'd much rather have mechanical assembly with proper swinging pointers. Watching a "real" rev counter is a lot more fun.
@user-jq3en7uo1h Жыл бұрын
いつも見ています‼️このボディカラーはアゲートグレーですか?
@netweed094 ай бұрын
*Best Car ever made.* Porsches used to look like weird teapots on wheels. This thing is literally the proverbial sex on wheels - and a non-track Cayman that's finally fast! 💪
@gerardosantiago5179 Жыл бұрын
Storage, storage, storage. Cayman GTS 4.0
@jorgejach103 ай бұрын
Hi, what color is? Great video!
@Rogertmac2 ай бұрын
Agate Gray
@Rogertmac2 ай бұрын
Sorry: *grey
@jorgejach102 ай бұрын
@@Rogertmac Thanks!
@zoner__ Жыл бұрын
I want to run to down to the dealer right now.
@malinois71 Жыл бұрын
Do you have SPASM or PASM?
@barneysman91163 ай бұрын
Are you speeding?
@DarktrekOfficial8 ай бұрын
Would I rather drive a Porsche or a Lotus? I think this question is pretty easy to answer 😂
@GethinJames5 ай бұрын
Man - I swear you all sound like the same person. Do you just have like 50 different youtube channels?
@jubbalandcars5 ай бұрын
69 different channels actually
@peteralami93584 ай бұрын
The 4.0 Cayman 👍
@jubbalandcars4 ай бұрын
Ended up going Emira!
@blademanx Жыл бұрын
why does it sound so quiet.
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t call it quiet
@timothylindsay3244 Жыл бұрын
Porsche anything over Lotus….ask yourself the same question 10 years and 100K miles from now.
@jimj2683 Жыл бұрын
Listen to the Evora video from Valvetronic Design. Then you can really hear the potential of the Emira engine sound. It is miles better than Porsche...
@quantttum Жыл бұрын
Gearing seems too tall tho
@tigerbalm666 Жыл бұрын
Why r u not wearing driving gloves???
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
Because I'm a heathen
@WFORacer Жыл бұрын
Too lazy to work on cars or wait for tow truck nowadays, Porsche all the way.
@hardykornfeld1733 Жыл бұрын
I think I’d find those tall gear ratios in the manual Cayman frustrating for daily driving on the street.
@drakegao816 Жыл бұрын
Not sure what to say. I prefer cayman S, it is not much slower, not a fan of a linear acceleration either, and much more gas consumption (I know to get a porsche is not to save gas). I am actually regret to switch from Cayman S to GTS4.0, 20k+ is not worth totally. Just my opinion.
@carminered Жыл бұрын
.... this guy .....
@drakegao816 Жыл бұрын
@@carminered drove both, I can have my own solid option.
@Dragobrath Жыл бұрын
Yup. Even the base Cayman is an exceptional car. You buy it for mid-engine driving dynamics, the chassis and suspension. I've driven both GTS 2.5 and 4.0, and both engines are great honestly. If I had a Cayman, I would not switch to 4.0, but if ordering new and you can jump to 4.0, it's the one to get.
@trigganometry168 Жыл бұрын
I get 35mpg with cylinder deactivation on the freeway with cruise control set to 65.
@olasek79726 ай бұрын
I got 718 Boxster S, manual, love it.
@patrickpaisley5535Ай бұрын
Porshe Gts > 💯
@danielhamilton5094 Жыл бұрын
Interesting in that most folks have liked the Lotus steering better but thought the gear throw In the Porsche was superior. My 21 2.5T Manual was Heaven
@curtdragon Жыл бұрын
He's out there just shifting to shift lol. Up shifts early just to downshift 🤦🏾♂️
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
A good transmission encourages you to shift for the sake of shifting, even when you don’t need to
@mdx9286 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, Porsche, all the way to the redline. As a kid growing up in the '70s and '80s, no one, and I mean no one, daydreamed about buying a Lotus. Nothing against Lotus, but Porsche's history and tradition are unmatched.
@GTC4cam Жыл бұрын
🤣
@rdadams7507 Жыл бұрын
The Emira engine comes from the Camry. Enough said..
@abcdLeeXY Жыл бұрын
The GTS4.0 is too expensive. Lotus Emira, if quality and reliability have improved, it’s well worth the $85k for the base v6.
@jubbalandcars Жыл бұрын
I think the price of emira v6 will be starting higher than 85k
@jameskuei781 Жыл бұрын
First one!
@craigschultz8284 Жыл бұрын
GTS 4.0 all day long
@davidmccoy44065 күн бұрын
Gts
@user-ti3lw7xg9y Жыл бұрын
내 사랑 카이맨^^♡
@netweed094 ай бұрын
It looks fantastic!! 🎉🎉 Finally, it doesn't look like a lizard with a swollen lower lip anymore. And that hideos gap in the bonnet is gone. Looks very Modern and 'one piece sculpted' now, beautiful!
@ashok8457 ай бұрын
Emira looks like a toy car, I would never choose it over GTS 4.0 just for the sake of 10% better steering feel or whatever.
@jubbalandcars7 ай бұрын
Lol ok. Great take
@royisler7448 Жыл бұрын
Porsche
@gtrguyinaz Жыл бұрын
Not really buying it… too much money and slow….
@driliagor Жыл бұрын
Typical California road. Full of potholes, that is. Wonder where are our taxes going. 😢
@andresmattos7541 Жыл бұрын
BEST PORSCHE OR NOT IS DEFINITELLY OVERPRICED
@keysandcars1640 Жыл бұрын
I agree that interior is almost 15 years old
@garyw1971 Жыл бұрын
Never!
@treyscales6469 Жыл бұрын
@James you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. This is a phenomenal sports car even at priced. I’ve driven one, you clearly have not.
@clu4u Жыл бұрын
@@ernestaliev846What POS DO YOU DRIVE??😹😹😹
@clu4u Жыл бұрын
@@keysandcars1640Same for you 😹😹😹
@drunvert9 ай бұрын
Yes. But it isnt worth it. The S is 90% of the gts