Why the alleged killer of Samantha Murphy couldn't initially be blamed | The Daily Aus

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The Daily Aus

3 ай бұрын

This week, a 22-year-old man named Patrick Orren Stephenson was arrested for the murder of Ballarat woman Samantha Murphy. We now know his name, but his identity was initially kept secret under a suppression order. Today on the podcast, we delve into exactly what a suppression order is, as well as what we know about the alleged murder of Samantha Murphy.
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@enemysub9057
@enemysub9057 3 ай бұрын
My issue with that suppression order is that it prevents the public from reporting if they saw him somewhere because they are prevented from seeing what he looks like.
@Aasha383
@Aasha383 3 ай бұрын
That is incorrect but i know why you would think that
@Aasha383
@Aasha383 3 ай бұрын
In victoria there are three court systems (fines, middle crime like robbery and armed rapists and murder which are held in Melbour Courts) tan oppression order is immediately removed when someone is a suspect of the police with evidence which was.noted 12 days ago hence why the search was called off the first time. I myself sentenced my attacked to 10 years the highest sentence for child rape without abduction i have seen but the person portraying the information is just incorrect the firat line was wring. A Oppression ORDER WILL BE REMOVED IF ITS A CLASS 3+ CASE
@Aasha383
@Aasha383 3 ай бұрын
I am a VOC and have dealt with the justice system the last 7 years of my life (courts are separated into three columns. Basically fines, disturbances, family violence to the second degree (robbery, trespassing, minor assault) to the third which is rape murder etc. In Australia the news is usually incorrect i saw the shot they brought out they got my age wrong misspelt my name and got the story so far out of reality it was a joke. I PROMISE YOU THE NEWS LIES AS THIS IS STILL AN OPEN CASE. For all you know this case will go on for years! 15- 20 I wasted five years of my life before he was even found guilty! That didn't stop the news from pushing there propaganda. Just fu
@Aasha383
@Aasha383 3 ай бұрын
The family the victim the morality is protected. My case was held in supreme court in Melbourne which is the same court Stephenson attended 5 days ago and they only allows journalists ( the litteral only people who are allowed in the court without video to protect the witnesses family who dont want to be named and the VOC) they legit write down notes for the news when it comes to cases like this. This channel is either making content for views or thinks he knows Victorian law (I thought i knew it till i was attacked and lived it.
@unbr3akablonsoundcloud-tx6co
@unbr3akablonsoundcloud-tx6co 3 ай бұрын
I think the poster meant if no name or photographs were to be released , that it it hinders or delays the trial. Someone might have seen the accused acting suspiciously for example , where the murder took place , or where he disposed of this poor ladies body. Thats the first thing i thought anyway, when i heard a supression order was in place. Everyone knows the accused killers name and have done for days. Various media have posted this information so i am assuminy that order had been dropped.
@corneliacampbell2744
@corneliacampbell2744 3 ай бұрын
It gave the parents time to leave before the media storm
@lurdesdias3249
@lurdesdias3249 3 ай бұрын
Really?!?!? So much worry about killers mental health and so little respect and consideration for the victims. So, where is the fairness in justice?
@overthinker_overanalyser
@overthinker_overanalyser 3 ай бұрын
There is very little fairness. The murderer gets to have his name suppressed - albeit for a short time - in an attempt to hide from his crime but the grieving family has been suffering for more than a month with their names and faces splashed across the media.
@user-dy9bm7sk7n
@user-dy9bm7sk7n 3 ай бұрын
@@overthinker_overanalyser He will be a big sook in the lock up, needs to be introduced to the phone book treatment.
@deleted01
@deleted01 12 күн бұрын
Innocent until proven guilty. It's really not that hard to understand
@MattRoseworne
@MattRoseworne 3 ай бұрын
When I found out that someone had been arrested, I googled straight away who was it and it told me so even though there was this suppression of his name someone had already leaked it on Google
@nelliem3935
@nelliem3935 3 ай бұрын
Nah, media go a hold of it. Blasted it. THEN the suppression order came in but google blurbs and foxnews didn't get the memo. Also when you searched his dad name it linked an article about an afl players son being arrested.
@user-hy2qo6lj2q
@user-hy2qo6lj2q 3 ай бұрын
Articles tgat were already out baming him befire the court appearance had been redacted by the web addresses and google's summary in the search engines still contained the original details
@peterbuckley3877
@peterbuckley3877 3 ай бұрын
The suppression order technically only applied in Victoria, when I heard about the order I got all the info off the Daily Mail UK site.
@hellbentcentaur
@hellbentcentaur 3 ай бұрын
Her working as a volunteer at the uniform shop of the primary school he attended is the most piss weak link in the world
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 2 ай бұрын
If they'd said, '... A link... ", vs. , 'THE link", it probably wouldn't bring any outrage. Amazing how a single article - as in part of speech vs media report - causes a storm. Plus, it's still very much an unfolding investigation. It's part of standard protocol to keep things close to the vest. Frankly, the general public is more immature and irresponsible than ever. Seems the advent of tech/instant information in the hands of veritable toddlers isn't great for either end of justice.
@sistagalsistagal8136
@sistagalsistagal8136 3 ай бұрын
Running is an AMAZING activity. We are pumped with adrenalin, and disappear into the unknown for the duration of the run. After this poor mum was taken mercilessly, I will never run solo on an isolated or risky route or time. What a scary world we live in.
@janewainwright9756
@janewainwright9756 3 ай бұрын
Plus with running , wearing those noise free earplugs are a danger too! Please be careful out there!
@talldufus5174
@talldufus5174 3 ай бұрын
The chances of this happing were remote, though. She was a fit, and I would assume strong, woman too. Running probably was one of the few activities where she had time to herself and that's one of the most tragic things of this case.
@bevanbuckwheatshea5520
@bevanbuckwheatshea5520 3 ай бұрын
Never wear ear plugs playing music as you cant hear what is happening in your surroundings.
@raechelweir8861
@raechelweir8861 3 ай бұрын
Very wise call. Not worth risking your life and loss for your family..very sad to hear the loss of this lovely lady..from NZ
@aaronjames7266
@aaronjames7266 3 ай бұрын
Statistically, so incredibly unlikely to happen. You're going to throw away your hobby because of something so incredibly unlikely? Don't let fear rule your life.
@Ocean-zj2jf
@Ocean-zj2jf 3 ай бұрын
This poor mother, is still missing, regardless of him being arrested " 😡 for the crime" 😡 my heart just aches for the family of this woman "
@officialWWM
@officialWWM 3 ай бұрын
Why doesn’t this creep just tell them what he did with her?
@C-Here
@C-Here 3 ай бұрын
Probably because he keeps pretending to be innocent...but I'm guessing his phone was one of many that pinged in that exact area, so the police spoke to him, he lied about being there... 🤷😢😢
@casscass1778
@casscass1778 3 ай бұрын
@@C-Here they never spoke to. him or anyone who knew him prior to arresting him. They went solely of digital data. They said they felt they had enough to arrest him and now in doing so, they can speak to friends and family etc because prior to arresting him, no one knew they were looking at him and they didn't want him to know that they were onto him 2 weeks prior to the arrest.
@C-Here
@C-Here 3 ай бұрын
@@casscass1778 They can't arrest someone, just because their phone is in the same area!! There's a lot they can't say right now, so ppl are just guessing, but they would have a lot more than just being in the same area... 🤷
@officialWWM
@officialWWM 3 ай бұрын
@@C-Here agreed. That doesn’t seem like very reliable evidence!
@C-Here
@C-Here 3 ай бұрын
@@officialWWM Yeah, we'll find out further down the track, the police can't share much early on... We're all just speculating really... 🤷
@bevanbuckwheatshea5520
@bevanbuckwheatshea5520 3 ай бұрын
Wonder what happened to this beautiful woman. Cant even go for a run without the risk of being killed
@carolclarke5839
@carolclarke5839 3 ай бұрын
His name was already released on the radio before suppression order kicked in .
@joan3347
@joan3347 3 ай бұрын
In a perfect society you wouldn't need a suppression order because everyone would be considered innocent until found guilty and not judge them as guilty or innocent until the court and jury decides.
@jimijamesjowitt
@jimijamesjowitt 28 күн бұрын
Well it looks like a joke charging a kid for being an expert at disappearing a body. If they cant explain how he disappeared her they cant explain why they arrested him. If they know enough for an arrest they must know where the body is. Its basic law since over 2000 years ago that if you havent got a body you havent got a crime. So unless they can show how he erased the body. No case
@alexxela8956
@alexxela8956 3 ай бұрын
The details of the arrest including the name had already been already released before the suppression order because I was reading it online at the time When the suppression order was put in place hours later it was taken down because I couldn't find the same article in my history. But it was too late as the details were already released. Some media outlets that had already published took the information down but others didn't. It took me two minutes to re-find the details. The prickly point was that you could remember what to look for because it was said that the accused was the son of a former AFL player
@leahcard2418
@leahcard2418 3 ай бұрын
Great work. Enlightening, answered questions i had.
@lindarushton6502
@lindarushton6502 3 ай бұрын
So this guy guilty already? I thought they went to court first ? A trial? Seems here in Australia the courts arent needed, just ask journalists, or the news.
@pebblepod30
@pebblepod30 3 ай бұрын
I also wonder if he was just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, & the police were desperate. The perpetrator probably planned it and had their phone off or not on them when they were anywhere near the forest. A 22 year old with a successful & probably decent dad, an electrician job and a girlfriend does not fit the murder profile, unless he has a history of such things.
@lindarushton6502
@lindarushton6502 3 ай бұрын
@@pebblepod30 I'm just old and not impressed by our media with criminals, since Lindy Chamberlain with a dingo taking her baby. Long ago. They wanted her dead!
@pebbles6106
@pebbles6106 3 ай бұрын
If it was wrong place wrong time he would have been charged with manslaughter not murder ..they have something solid to charge murder🤷🏻
@kiml3729
@kiml3729 2 ай бұрын
He would not have been charged with murder and still be behind bars until August if there wasn't significant evidence against him i believe. Police do not take chances on maybe he is guilty with zero evidence on the chance he is let out. They have good evidence on him.
@pebblepod30
@pebblepod30 2 ай бұрын
@pebbles6106 Where did you get that from? The level of evidence has absolutely nothing to do with manslaughter vs murder. The former means unintentionally killing, the latter intentional.
@user-ry2zr6ze4h
@user-ry2zr6ze4h 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the information 👍
@tarnibarwick7284
@tarnibarwick7284 3 ай бұрын
His name was released when he was initially arrested and then a suppression order was issued and then lifted
@juliaweber212
@juliaweber212 3 ай бұрын
Okay
@granthenderson687
@granthenderson687 4 күн бұрын
This case is crazy , why dont we even know on what evidence was this guy arrested on ? The police must have something to why they arrested and charged this guy , why done we the public know as yet ????
@user-lw9ns5dq2v
@user-lw9ns5dq2v 3 ай бұрын
Great structure to your q & a format , well toned and responses were informative.
@cq9882
@cq9882 3 ай бұрын
At last professional journalists and solicitors. I would not be surprised if the defence seek that if this case goes to trial it should not be conducted in Ballarat. The jury selection would in itself face challenges. Over the last seven years I spent time in Ballarat on business. Loved the town, people and the restaurants. However I was frequently warned about how Ballarat had changed. The drug Ice only cost $20.00 and the youth unemployment rate high, this was told to me by locals, families and businesses. They also claimed that towns similar to Ballarat were affected in the same way. The people of Ballarat should very proud of the support through vigils, memorial services as well as their involvement in the many searches for Samantha and their determination to find her remains. 🙏🤦‍♀️
@hschan5976
@hschan5976 3 ай бұрын
Such a sad case. The other day 7 News showed a video of the accused sniffing drug-like substances at a nightclub, allegedly during the night before the victim was murdered. If true this could turn out to be another case of people committing acts of atrocity during drug-induced psychosis. Condolences to both families.
@JannetteRoadsStevens
@JannetteRoadsStevens 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I hope all those manufacturers and sellers of those nasty drugs are effin proud of themselves, how these drugs degrade people in many ways. Bastards all round.!.
@JannetteRoadsStevens
@JannetteRoadsStevens 3 ай бұрын
Coke and Ice also can make people over sexualised.
@cq9882
@cq9882 3 ай бұрын
@@hschan5976 Yes, it is very sad. The defence may try to use this as a “drug affected” after action. Who knows. The defence would have had to agreed to this footage being shown and did not push for the suppression to remain in place. So already building a case, with diminished responsibility. It will pretty much play out, mostly we will not see, including the media. That’s a relief when one thinks about mainstream media.
@adammckenzie8769
@adammckenzie8769 3 ай бұрын
Same in every city in town basically the worlds fuked
@mosaicgirl4002
@mosaicgirl4002 3 ай бұрын
I DID learn something! Good coverage, well presented- I’m going to subscribe!
@avicennitegh1377
@avicennitegh1377 3 ай бұрын
The Barbra Streisand effect: "unintended consequence of attempts to hide, remove, or censor information, where the effort instead backfires by increasing public attention."
@moirathurgood9206
@moirathurgood9206 3 ай бұрын
Yes I did learn a lot from this conversation. thank you
@elizabethpose3262
@elizabethpose3262 3 ай бұрын
Well why are they still protecting the identity of William Tyrell foster parents no one is above the law. I think is time they tell the community
@jamesm3123
@jamesm3123 3 ай бұрын
Please remember in Australia the welfare of the perpetrator is the most important thing. Everything else comes second. This statement comes from experience as a victim.
@davidhoward4715
@davidhoward4715 3 ай бұрын
This is a lie.
@deleted01
@deleted01 12 күн бұрын
Not a perpetrator until convicted. Sorry you didn't understand the legal system.
@edwardcatton1047
@edwardcatton1047 3 ай бұрын
My Opinion?, Cops pinged his mobile!, he was probably the ONLY PERSON? close to the Deceased that Morning!, at that time!.
@jimijamesjowitt
@jimijamesjowitt 28 күн бұрын
Meaning nothing. I dont take my mobiles into the bush. Meaning an infinite amount of others could be there at any given time. They obviously failed at track her phone so I assume they used nonsense thinking. Like you have here. Oh last numberplate at a service station. Yeah killers always stop for a casual gas up when killing. Pinged phone. Oh so going for a walk in the parks a crime. No alibi. Yeah same I dont keep a note of every minute of the day and spend most of my day alone. The nonsense they call "evidence" is why all convictions these days are not legitimate. Almost all convictions are false.
@edwardcatton1047
@edwardcatton1047 27 күн бұрын
@@jimijamesjowitt ahm!, WHERE WERE YOU???, ya got a bit worked up there!, unless ya friendly or related to THE KILLER!!!.
@edwardcatton1047
@edwardcatton1047 27 күн бұрын
@@jimijamesjowitt ya comments RAISE A RED FLAG TO ME!!!, fn protecting women basher/ Killers?.
@MrChrissy1r
@MrChrissy1r 3 ай бұрын
I am English and of course live here so not that au fait with laws of Australia, that said our laws can be a minefield and there's a clause there too, "ignorance of the law is no excuse"! Of course, unless you are an illegal immigrant in court in front of a woman judge claiming you "did not know raping a child was illegal in England", then of course you get a finger wagging and let go!! My big no no is rape cases, where the accuser has total anonymity, but the accused has their name splashed all over the media, so lives are ruined and families devastated and often broken beyond repair long before any trial or guilty verdict! That to me is completely wrong on so many counts. I honestly think NO names should be released before a verdict, and if it is a not guilty verdict the accuser should definitely be named to protect others, and also should be punished for making false allegations of such a serious kind!
@KellyReiki
@KellyReiki 3 ай бұрын
I agree. The difficult part would be I guess for the loved ones of the victims. It would be so hard emotionally not to speak of the accused name.
@bettytseutsiamis9124
@bettytseutsiamis9124 3 ай бұрын
I think australian laws are more to protect criminals than the innocents. For instance, someone breaks into your house and there is nothing you can do to the culprit without ending with you in prison. And now this, suppression my arse.
@davidhoward4715
@davidhoward4715 3 ай бұрын
This is a lie.
@jimijamesjowitt
@jimijamesjowitt 28 күн бұрын
Australia: You get arrested for murder when there is zero evidence the persons even dead.
@deleted01
@deleted01 12 күн бұрын
It's to protect YOU, the citizens, from reputational damages stemming from a false prosecution.
@user-bd8ws2pb1q
@user-bd8ws2pb1q 3 ай бұрын
Very clearly explained re supression orders. It also gave family of accussed time to leave their residence in order to avoid media😉
@BarryMillard
@BarryMillard 26 күн бұрын
So bringing this up to date. A dam a phone recovered which is the victims phone 🙏 The police, didn't drain the dam. Very unprofessional. 🙏
@btothec4650
@btothec4650 2 ай бұрын
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@lolitawheatley3262
@lolitawheatley3262 3 ай бұрын
He didn’t want his priors known
@user-st3bb9ug9g
@user-st3bb9ug9g 3 ай бұрын
What priors?
@nichobee
@nichobee 3 ай бұрын
​@singularityfound-infiniteq5687 highly conceivable that he's attacked women before, these sorts of characters tend to progress their way to murder
@tigerlily9536
@tigerlily9536 3 ай бұрын
​@@nichobeeI agree with you 💯💯💯💯💯
@blissiimo2064
@blissiimo2064 3 ай бұрын
I want to know if it's legal to say that you are subject to a suppression order? What I mean is - can you say that you are involved in a case, but the details are suppressed - or is that itself illegal?
@Craig-rk8dp
@Craig-rk8dp 3 ай бұрын
Stephenson's solicitor would have told him to say nothing to Investigators. No doubt Sam Murphy was SA by Stephenson before he dumped/burried? the body. He would be worried about forensic evidence left on/in the victim.
@KellyReiki
@KellyReiki 3 ай бұрын
It was available internationally and then shared on KZfaq channels internationally with people watching and chatting internationally so it was all available despite being taken off Australian News outlets.
@whererosemaryflourishes
@whererosemaryflourishes 3 ай бұрын
In this world of Reddit, a suppression order is often lags behind the rapid sharing of information. It was relatively easy to find out who it was before the suppression order was lifted, even with just a simple web search. As the media outlets said, the horse had bolted. Also, I wonder if the suppression order was initially an attempt by the defence lawyers to buy a a few hours extra before the broader local community knew so the Stephenson family could and execute an 'escape' from their home where they would inevitably be hounded.
@deleted01
@deleted01 12 күн бұрын
Suppression by Big Tech and the media is far more powerful than any order by a court
@deleted01
@deleted01 12 күн бұрын
Suppression by Biggus Techy and the media is far more powerful than any order by a court
@deleted01
@deleted01 12 күн бұрын
Suppression by social media companies and journalist outlet is far more powerful than any order by a court
@deleted01
@deleted01 12 күн бұрын
Sub pression by Big Tech and the media is far more powerful than any order by a court.
@deleted01
@deleted01 12 күн бұрын
Suppression by is far more powerful than any order by a court
@gwendolineboutle5620
@gwendolineboutle5620 3 ай бұрын
Wonder if AFL requested suppression order….
@belindaburgess3045
@belindaburgess3045 3 ай бұрын
If there is no body how can he be charged? What evidence did they find?
@rowsieiacono92
@rowsieiacono92 3 ай бұрын
Law Enforcement would have other evidence such as digital information as to who was in the area at the same time that she went missing.
@patriciapitt4228
@patriciapitt4228 3 ай бұрын
If he never did the deed how can he say where Sam is?
@rowsieiacono92
@rowsieiacono92 3 ай бұрын
@@patriciapitt4228 that's if he is innocent.
@ladyluckdownunder1541
@ladyluckdownunder1541 3 ай бұрын
Digital tracking via the multiple cell phone towers in the area. Obviously the towers tracked him to the location she disappeared. She had her Apple Watch & phone & they were both turned off at the same time in the same location she went missing from.
@annazaman9657
@annazaman9657 3 ай бұрын
They probably have evidence that they're not revealing
@user-vb5ho2ei2q
@user-vb5ho2ei2q 3 ай бұрын
If Samantha is jabbed they can track her😢😢😢
@ronesss33
@ronesss33 3 ай бұрын
The media did actually release his name initially - but this was withdrawn after 2 hours when the judge executed a suppression order. All the initial articles online mentioned his name - it came up as an alert on my phone when the news first broke 😻
@maryjae6943
@maryjae6943 3 ай бұрын
Definitely, also came up on my phone, then later, name was suppressed. I reside in Ballarat.
@ronesss33
@ronesss33 3 ай бұрын
@@maryjae6943I love Ballarat it’s such a beautiful town. You guys have had it rough there over the last few months. Prayers that they find Samantha so she can be finally laid to rest in eternal peace 🙏🏻🤍✨
@helenhutchison1645
@helenhutchison1645 3 ай бұрын
I am sorry for that
@carmelaseverino681
@carmelaseverino681 3 ай бұрын
Where are you going with this?
@deborahharris2962
@deborahharris2962 3 ай бұрын
He was concerned about his father's name. When his name became known, who his father was he agreed to have it lifted or his lawyer agree I love that the ABC were part of the request to lift the suppression order when the ABC has taken out suppression orders on the facts of successful claims of defamation, by the ABC. The ABC likes secrecy when they lie and stuff up, anyone else, it's in the public interest.
@farfallinaazzorra3493
@farfallinaazzorra3493 3 ай бұрын
Is it possible she's still alive somewhere? Because there's no body. It's strange to say the least
@ladybirdtravels
@ladybirdtravels 3 ай бұрын
Someone had named him on Twitter even before the suppression order was put in place so I'm not sure why it was even enforced for a short time.
@Scarlett.R
@Scarlett.R 3 ай бұрын
There was no guessing. He had been named online before the order. Shower Google has already indexed the seo for those articles after the order.
@ILuvRocknRoll67
@ILuvRocknRoll67 3 ай бұрын
Not much has been mentioned about the high school connection . Sam volunteered at the school he went to .Their paths would have crossed , surely ?! I wonder if he was stalking her , opportunistic , or perhaps he was acting suspiciously on the trail and she antagonised him . The plot thickens! Just bring her home to her family! That’s what matters now
@soniagrierson2067
@soniagrierson2067 3 ай бұрын
His parents should intervene to force him to say where is her body.😡
@RI3773
@RI3773 3 ай бұрын
Couldnt be NAMED not blamed….
@AncientRylanor69
@AncientRylanor69 3 ай бұрын
RIP
@madsdee7803
@madsdee7803 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if he's been hurting his siblings and his parents have enabled him like other psychos.
@alanporter2769
@alanporter2769 3 ай бұрын
As her father said she would of put up a fight as she's a runner ..shame the murderer was also a younger fitter runner . probably had no chance .and at a guess it was an ice raged sexual assult and good chance this is why he won't expose where her body is .as he doesn't want to be confirmed as a sexual predator assault.his conscience will suffer for his entire lifetime.
@user-sd2cb9fs9o
@user-sd2cb9fs9o 3 ай бұрын
Ice doesn't make people commit sexual assault!! Ice enraged what a fckn joke... Seriously! Not sticking up for the drug ice I'll be first to say it's the most disgusting drug out there. You need to think! Saying stuff like that in this matter especially resulting to a high supreme court's of Australia , you would have that gentleman locked away in a hospital facility psychotic ward! The gentle would be assist day in day out drugged up to the eyeball then deemed fit enough to enter society again with in 3 - 5 years. Due to having know memory what so ever on a intellectual scale or accounts of what took place in the past. Good job individual civilian of the year! Society should be happy we have people like you. Sooner people get it threw their brains that using an disgraceful excuse aimed at a illegal drug!!!! The sooner people probably stop making the shit moving on elsewhere in there lives. The avenues you would open up that gentleman if guilty of such nature of human actions law & liberty!!!! An if committed such actions again in life once being released from a psyc ward would be the biggest get out of jail free card could kill 10 ten people after his first vacation to a hospital an would only do 4-6 years of treatment. People who don't think before speaking like that on those terms tax payers dislike people like that in society. I don't know who's worst the so called ice enraged killer or the person who doesn't think opening up a life time of avenues for help an support. Cancer patients need all the help an support not fckn ice smoking fck wits... Here's a bullet 26cents of lead alot cheaper tax payers now happy. Tax payers money being spent helping those who truly need help. Wasn't drugged fcked before purchasing the shit he's still not drugged fcked after smoking the shit either why .? Because there more then capable of re purchasing the shit once the high is over. Therefore wasn't ice enraged murder!!!! If guilty.. The sexual assault claim Im going to show respect towards tho who have been sexually assaulted an not even comment on that pathetic philosophy of enraged delusional thinking of yours subjecting to false theory's of factual an evidentiary misconceptions of your state of mind. Your best off having four quarters instead of a hundred Penny's.
@jimijamesjowitt
@jimijamesjowitt 28 күн бұрын
Sounds more like you did it. What other info have you failed to tell police?? As all this is new info.
@seedsman02
@seedsman02 3 ай бұрын
To protect any news from reaching any suspect. The police would have his phone and be watching anyone who owns the common numbers on his phone, they would be looking if anyone else was involved. Also there could be young children at his address and other people who needed to be interviewed before his name was released.
@rebelrob9637
@rebelrob9637 3 ай бұрын
You can go to prison for disobeying a suppression order.
@user-sd2cb9fs9o
@user-sd2cb9fs9o 3 ай бұрын
Yes. If someone breaks a suppression order here in Australia. The commissioner of the Commenwealth will be taking those sides of things. Secrecy order ( suppression ) threw the high supreme court's of Australia means deemed to secrecy secret intelligence. Not even Australian Federal police can access that type of clearance & information ( Registry case numbers ). The commissioner of the police law enforcement of Australia handles things like that. You break that suppression order... Jeopardizing what ever is at stake in the hands of the state... I don't think anyone in humanity is that silly , we have fckwits on planet earth that makes people question humanity itself I honestly don't think anyone would be that stupid. Stranger things have happened tho my friend.
@rebelrob9637
@rebelrob9637 3 ай бұрын
@@user-sd2cb9fs9o I agree with you there
@noramaddy4409
@noramaddy4409 3 ай бұрын
If a body is not found/retrieved then a prosecution/charge cannot occur? It is not possible to be absolutely certain the murder occurred? So what is the procedure in that instance?
@daarkke
@daarkke 3 ай бұрын
Also the motive is not yet revealed
@casscass1778
@casscass1778 3 ай бұрын
@@daarkke they don't have to know a motive to arrest someone.....smh. they don't even have to provide a motive at trial.
@casscass1778
@casscass1778 3 ай бұрын
off course it can. May people have been convicted without a body. Even without a body there can be sufficient evidence to prove said person is not alive.
@daarkke
@daarkke 3 ай бұрын
@casscass1778 I do know that detective, I'm curious to know what's his motive at this stage the alleged killer isn't saying much.
@casscass1778
@casscass1778 3 ай бұрын
@@daarkke me too. I was blown away to find it’s a young, strapping young fella. Like I thought when she went missingp it was like a personal hit…ie someone taking revenge on family for some business wrongdoings or (since that other runner was attacked there the prior year) that it was a deranged person with some sort of violent mental history and certainly older. Not a young lad in the prime of his life?…. We don’t see them much here, certainly not in Australia, but it maybe a thrill kill. He may have had these dark thoughts and having snorted whatever drugs he did the night before gave him the “guts” to do it. He’s obviously familiar with the running track and he may have been the one to attack another lady there a year before. …🤷‍♂️.
@redbeard1891
@redbeard1891 3 ай бұрын
Trained journos trying to run a poddy is just yuk. The cadence is worse than what an AI could do.
@bernadettewans6088
@bernadettewans6088 3 ай бұрын
Did he actually do it or not if he did he deserves no protection what so ever
@deleted01
@deleted01 12 күн бұрын
The protection was in place before he could face trial.
@murraymclean9072
@murraymclean9072 3 ай бұрын
You would think that if the evidence was sufficient for him to be charged, his legal representative would have advised him to reveal the location of Samantha..i do that suppression orders can in some case allow for a trial thats not a circus..i don't watch a great deal of media on television..but given an opportunity in today's climate, and they will create a narrative to fit their version of events.
@gardenwaster
@gardenwaster 24 күн бұрын
This case is far from resolved an update would be good .
@willsshepherd2976
@willsshepherd2976 3 ай бұрын
Same books in the same book cases… school of media?
@michelleduvois2755
@michelleduvois2755 3 ай бұрын
Interesting information at least to knowing ; why's so much lack of details about probes ; evidences and motivations on that young gay to commited such crime .Untill now not clues at all .
@user-bv7bb7jr2z
@user-bv7bb7jr2z 3 ай бұрын
I'm from South Africa I feel they must look for Sam by the beach side🙏
@karekarenz
@karekarenz 3 ай бұрын
There's no beach near Ballarat, although there are several lakes. We will wait to see if you are right.
@maryjae6943
@maryjae6943 3 ай бұрын
Beaches around 90 minutes from Ballarat ... lots and lots of them ... an impossibility.
@user-sd2cb9fs9o
@user-sd2cb9fs9o 3 ай бұрын
What makes you say that .?
@user-bv7bb7jr2z
@user-bv7bb7jr2z 3 ай бұрын
Hi everyone, I don't know, nagging feeling this boy remove Sam from the wooded area I see water white dunes , or sand that is white but it is near water, I'm not a clairvoyant,
@user-sd2cb9fs9o
@user-sd2cb9fs9o 3 ай бұрын
​@@user-bv7bb7jr2z Im telling you too zip the trap this isnt a warning your mouth weighs more then your body weight! I myself are inside the walls of ( S.S - S.S ) superior spiritualism in short. Superior spiritualism are blessed to be gifted with a gift that is blessed from the higher realms. If law enforcement want spirituality brought into this they know who's door to knock on. Hint any spiritual being claiming spirituality an charge currency to intelock with the unknown realms would be considered a worsen being then the alleged murderer. I am a superior master in the 12th house of higher learnings. If law enforcement dont want the help of those inside the walls of (S.S-S.S) who do not wish nor think about currency to speak on such a gift of life... Well then law enforcement dont need help. If you knew anything about spiritualism you would zip it human being i am telling you as a physical being to zip it shut!🤫. Law enforcement need 100 million if not billion dollar assets an resources to do their job i myself need less then zero an all energized beings to step aside taking there negativity with them for me to walk the planes of the unknown realms to speak on such grounds. We choose to stay silent for reasons majority beings will never know. Human beings need to smoke or imject enhanced chemicals to stay awake for countless of hrs. Those inside the walls with the blessing of life itself can be interlocked waiting to ascend the unknown realms waiting to be awoken from the awakening consciousness thats living alive very nuch awake from the duration of seconds minutes hrs longest ive been present an have endured witnessing was 292 hrs. You are on the lines of a world who doesnt need 100 million dollar avenues an resources to find locate an be present in the presence of life to speak to you. What you have just stated Is incorrect! To the dimension of our perceptions ( what we see ). How ever you are correct (water).. Meaning the entity of ........ Soul an spirit is doing everything to be forgiven to be accepted an by the light to ascend for reasons ill state unkown to 99.99% of humanity. Good is evil an evil is good. Humanity have no idea! Unexplainable! ill reffer to as whoms with what whoms go through. What i encounter daily is Unspeakable zero hollywood producers have never ever come close to producing showing the world what a fraction of the beings i align with encounter on earth. A shopping centre thousands of individuals with the thousands of entities still connected to this realm the screaming cries for help visions on fastward times what ever number you wish to chose ( thousands of movies playing at once with one seeing thousands of screens playing for those who dont understand!) would drive 99.99% of beings insane psychotic begging to leave this realm in the actions of your own hands. When someone forgives whom , the light will ask whom to forgive the actions of......................... Allowing whom welcoming into the realms of ............... Then allowing the light of existence to take care of the actions of whom or whoms. If a soul sn spirit is drowning or taken to the depths of ...... to suffer if the light refuses to welcome......... Due to the reactions of someone or something somebody's how ever resulted from the actions of whom or whoms is beyound comprehensiveness acknowledgement of a understanding. Unknown from above ( dont you dare refer to any kind of religion YOU will be truly making your bed so therefore you will be truly laying in your own bed that you yourself made!!) spirtualism was around worlds sn worlds of existence before jesus Christ a controlled tooled mechanism!) Greatest insult to my intelligence an human creations. Unknown from above is teaching ....... Lessons disciplinary means for the mockery of existencescexperiences of creations ( living entity) above is teaching all dimensions of those a lesson. Water - drowning - sufferring ( superior spirituality that tells me above will wipe from existence never to be reborn in the measurements of light an existence. Dont worry the other end of those parties to an individual who stumbles across my written message ( IF YOUR ASKING ME HOW A WATCH WORKS FOR NOW JUST KEEP AN EYE ON THE TIME) LAW ENFORCEMENT HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED OF A INDIVIDUA WHOS INSIDE THE WALLS OF S.S-S.S) As usuall what does that world know .? Not backed by money.... Spirituality was around far beyond & before the measurements of existences. Individuals of law enforcement yes you maddam my dear when reading this dont let your audacity get in the way of your ego ..... Not so innocent yourself! It will be you in the firing line next from what ( you like to think an tell youself every second morning is unknown to others ) is it tho .? An before you tell yourself just another hoax answer this for me did any of those hoaxs start witH........ HIM! do not underestimate maddam. Leave this message for everyone to READ.
@Bmc661
@Bmc661 3 ай бұрын
Those laws Have to change. Name and Shame for the public safty
@davidhoward4715
@davidhoward4715 3 ай бұрын
So you will be presenting evidence at the trial which proves beyond doubt that he is guilty? If not what are you hiding?
@deleted01
@deleted01 12 күн бұрын
Just wait til you get accused
@floodwaters8887
@floodwaters8887 3 ай бұрын
Have they got any hard evidence? apart from phone pings... If that's all they have and his keeping his mouth shut good chance he gets away with it.
@childensstorytime
@childensstorytime 3 ай бұрын
What are the name of these presenters of these utube videos.
@daarkke
@daarkke 3 ай бұрын
What's the motive
@johngreydanus2033
@johngreydanus2033 3 ай бұрын
Great question, some crazy people out there.
@nigelmorgan3449
@nigelmorgan3449 3 ай бұрын
Sick
@bevanbuckwheatshea5520
@bevanbuckwheatshea5520 3 ай бұрын
Goodness knows? Was he out in the area where she was running and was watching her?
@nichobee
@nichobee 3 ай бұрын
He's a predator, there's likely no motive per se
@heartobefelt
@heartobefelt 2 ай бұрын
some people do gardening far far out in the bush , not expecting a jogger to suddenly pop up.
@jayceec3178
@jayceec3178 3 ай бұрын
Am I the only person wondering why the guy they arrested hasn’t been made to tell the police where he put her body? Why aren’t they asking him? Why are they continuing a search when all they have to do is ask him!? It makes no sense. Just ask him, make him give answers. Did I miss something and that’s why he hasn’t told them?
@user-sd2cb9fs9o
@user-sd2cb9fs9o 3 ай бұрын
You need to study my friend
@alysonhogg6543
@alysonhogg6543 3 ай бұрын
Since when can you force someone to speak? Wtf? I'm sure they've asked him. To think they haven't is insane.
@user-sd2cb9fs9o
@user-sd2cb9fs9o 3 ай бұрын
On those grounds of things yes yes they can force someone to speak in a very mulipitive conning way. In Qld if there's enough concrete evidence to charge someone with homicide ( murder ) through the high supreme court's an your not willing to speak.... Not a drama charge whom with murder ( no body no parole ) You are now sentenced to a life sentence of imprisonment no numbers on that sentencing sheet. Four letters LIFE. You want parole.... law enforcement want the remains of the deceased suspected murdered of the indentity dot dot dot. It's that simple no there not forcing you to speak , but they are giving you the ultimatum of your own life ( no body no parole ) aka start speaking if I leave this room an you haven't told me the whereabouts of the deceased you will die inside behind the walls of jail. I don't know how else I can explain no body no parole that's your sentencing the judge sentences you to imprisonment with the possibility of you ever being released back into society is that there told by the defendant on the whereabouts of the deceased.
@madsdee7803
@madsdee7803 3 ай бұрын
Must be hard for a sociopath to have a famous, rich father when he only works as a apprentice tradie and couldn't make it into the bandwagon of money and fame at the AFL.
@user-sd2cb9fs9o
@user-sd2cb9fs9o 3 ай бұрын
Is that factual..? Or a opinion of yours.?
@Calphurnia966
@Calphurnia966 3 ай бұрын
There should be more "suppression orders" . Hey ! You're either one of those people who lives for reading the court penalties notices , and those people who do then become a pillar of the community for being "in the know" because they let everyone else know who is in the court penalties list , OR you're the kind of person who DOESN'T read the court penalties list , and doesn't then feel the need , to use that information against the people who are already being incriminated, reprimanded, and a need to be viewed as being a protector of the community, especially when, none of you people who are gleaning over that info, are without wrong doing in life . Control freaks readers . Hey ! It's rude to stare by the way . Stop staring just because of hypervigilance watching for "narcissism" . Court penalties obsessive are like that, to me.
@joebloggs619
@joebloggs619 3 ай бұрын
Yes, I agree. Very sick puppies, indeed. They need to get a life...
@Calphurnia966
@Calphurnia966 3 ай бұрын
Don't even know what the solution is, because, people can just google someone's name ,and it's pretty much the same thing . A storyline. From the perspective of powerful men content creators BUT influenced by the "workplace " women in their "personal" work lives . And that is what this is all about. And I can assure people of this , in your communities . That story, you are reading , is only , a point of view depending upon who you ask . But to get to the truth and heart of the matters, one really has to learn the art of being able to read between the lines so to speak and noticing what's NOT being said as opposed to what is being emphasised .
@user-py5jy8rr6m
@user-py5jy8rr6m 3 ай бұрын
She won't be found
@jimijamesjowitt
@jimijamesjowitt 28 күн бұрын
I haven't seen any proof she is dead. Maybe she was running away. Arrest someone yet I have seen zero evidence she is even dead.
@user-mv6we7nd6h
@user-mv6we7nd6h 3 ай бұрын
The media are shocking! You are guilty of alluding to so much innuendo! You dont care about anyone! You want to sell stories whether they are truthful or not!Regardless of the outcome of this case everyone is entitled to a fair trial not trial by media! This guy the supposed perpetrator has a family a good decent family this has ruined their lives as well this is heartbreaking for both families.
@casscass1778
@casscass1778 3 ай бұрын
if his family is heartbroken that's because of their sons apparent guilt in a murder. No one else's fault. The media reports the news, don't want to be in the news don't commit atrocities upon society. Media aren't alluding anything, they are reporting the facts surrounding murder and the facts surrounding the arrest. Would you prefer not to know?....don;t read or listen to the news moron. People who comment on social media can either be of the mindset of "innocent until proven guilty" or yes they run with it and even go overboard attacking verbally family members etc, that's the society we live in.....you know keyboard warriors. Not necessarily the media reporting at fault. If you're In Australia. like myself, be grateful this isn't the USA some of these true crime channels and their followers go door knocking and harassing families, now that's outrageous and criminal in my mind.
@Colin56ish
@Colin56ish 3 ай бұрын
Why was his father's details publicized? Seems to me you are "Innocent until proven guilty" in a court. Therefore by publishing the accused details you are in effect circumnavigating Due Process. Let the court decide! Lets hear the evidence. In Australia you have the right to defend yourself. No Kangaroo courts Down Under!
@Yosetime
@Yosetime 3 ай бұрын
Male commentator...excellent job! Female...not so much. Not following along properly and asking the questions in the right order, looking a little dazed and confused. No proper intro really. The flow of the script was jumpy. But mostly because she seemed lost.
@KhayemGSDs
@KhayemGSDs 3 ай бұрын
Get real. What a stupid comment. She knows the answers to the questions she's asking. She's asking them because the audience don't!
@carolynshepherd4722
@carolynshepherd4722 Ай бұрын
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@sarahwales6276
@sarahwales6276 3 ай бұрын
Wow, your censorship is ridiculousm
@forsure2283
@forsure2283 2 ай бұрын
1 woman was killed every 15 days 1 man was killed every 28 days by an intimate partner on average in 2020-21 These are the facts stop deliberately ignoring that men are victims also.
@donnawooby3763
@donnawooby3763 3 ай бұрын
Something shifty going on here corrupt cops
@samoak123
@samoak123 3 ай бұрын
f the police!
@joebloggs619
@joebloggs619 3 ай бұрын
AUSSIES will auto m amicably judge anything cops do in their n normal line of duty as being 'cortupt', simply because cops r4pr3sent authority and Aussies hate authority. I think this hatred of c autho5ity and being 'policed' has its roots in our convict, penal colony origins of So, every cops is labelled cortupt, 'bent' etc, every common criminal, like the infamous Ned Kelly of historical legend becomes a hero figure, braxmzen female or child crime victims are always portrayed as being oh so innocent, when they may have played a major part, by their own conduct, to attract whatever was allegedly done to them. I often wonder why we embroider and distort the reality of such criminal events. When we ought to be getting to the truth of the matter, the REALITY of whatever crime happened ed. By getting to the truth of the matter, it is possible to learn and so, avoid such dreadful crimes r3curring. But this in not happening in Aust. We are not learning at all. In fact we are going backwards. Now it's even more that just one c woman a week being murdered in Aust, many more being raped, battered etc. This never used yo happen. Why is it getting worse now? I blame it all on feminists, who encourage this trend. Why? Because if they couldn't justify perpetuating their dying feminist ideaology by drawing attention to 'violence l ence by men against women', they'd no longer have a legitimate feminist cause. So they have an interested in creating conditions that aggravate men to the point where even the most mild manned, gentle males, are driven to th e point of wanting to harm women. As a female, I was surprised when certain very long standard, very decent male friends were relating their stories to me about women in their lives ie X exes and ho n estly admitted feelings like 'I felt Sn overwhelming need to thump her, so I just left her because she would not stop and I WOULD have found it impossible to NOT thump her, if I stayed with her (she had wasted all his money on gambling, trinkets, fashion, big nights on the town , out with the girls etc). Feminists have much to account for, not only to men whose lives they ruined, but also to other women because, indir3ctly, through their vio l ence inciting feminist conduct, there are responsible for the dmneedless deaths, rapes, DV etc many women who follow the feminist dogma, are subjected to. This is apalling! And it is the fault of feminists because, t h ry are not the ones who physically rape, murder, attack, abuse etc such crime victims, they do create the right atmosphere, with their feminist conduct, that incites men to do such atrocities because they have the necessary male agreesion hormone that males th e m male ir hunters, producers etc. But this basic, primeval male hormone, like the female one to get pregnant, is instinctual, not capable of intellectual reasoning. It responds to a situation presenting, automatically eg to murder some irksome female who makes a man's life hell eg his c wife or mother of his kids, or so m e random breeder type Mil l ennial who behaves/looks like she's on heat', eager to breed, so the male sex hormone responds to this stimulus she puts in his face, t h e c way millennial females typically do now, by raping her. She c was provoking his behaviour but she now cries 'innocent victim' she is not. But other brainwashed feminists and also dim witted males eg her father etc will also believe she was an innocent victim and co m ecto her rescue, thus reinforcing c this whole feminist victim complex thing. Which isxwhat keeps the now long defunct, dead feminist cause going. If they didn't have this, what would such feminists have to live for, if not their sick cause? They really ought to get a life, g focus on something g more relevant, more important than 'women' and stop causing so many female murders,grapes etc, men whose lives are tinned by such allegations. This is utterly despicable!
@KhayemGSDs
@KhayemGSDs 3 ай бұрын
What crap
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