Fat American 😢

He is looking for his people to avoid becoming fat, lazy westerners. Quite noble really.

War. Draft all the unemployed men into the military. Throw the women into the factories. Use Force Majure to nationalize the economy and revert to a pure command economy while executing a political purge of all remaining opposition. Throw all those men into an invasion or two, heedless of casualties; they're expendable fodder so them dying doesn't mean anything but a relieved political and economic burden and those that survive get bought off by having a wife thrust upon them (who will be compelled to produce multiple children by that point, and divorce made illegal- count on it). The war _does not need to succeed._ It just has to relieve the economic and political pressures within, including abrogating all debt obligations to foreigners. Sanctions would only strengthen Bejing's hold on the population, even if it ultimately led to defeat; opposing forces would have to invade the mainland and root out _the entire Party apparatus and membership ON ITS HOME SOIL_ to guarantee anything more than a Pyrrhic victory and that is a task guaranteed to test the resolve of any opposing force's political will due to how long it would take. Failure to annihilate the Party means it comes back, and stronger, and it is unlikely that there would be any local popular opposition that would attempt to play the 5th Column in support of a foreign invasion to get at the Party. In short, Beijing is expecting to use war with foreign opposition to secure its domestic power- and damned be the local population, for _they do not, and never have (or will) matter._

@@MrBCWalker01 That's exactly what comes to mind at the back of my head. After all, when you're constantly demonizing and sabre rattling at foreign entities, it makes it easier to shore up blind patriotic fervor and distract from domestic problems.

Back to full blown communism? Well that will just mean it all will crash anyway.

Yes and they will still loose half their productive capacity so he is half right & you're half wrong

@@geraldg350 He's not inaccurate, but their productive capacity will drop not because the population has become "lazy", but because in order to fuel such spending, their wages need to massively increase, which lowers their competitiveness, which has been how China has gotten this far.

@@GrammarNaziAUS trying to maintain China’s competitiveness in cheap labor is a losing battle because of their aging demographics. Might as well bite the bitter pill now and make the transition rather than waiting until the inevitable happens very slowly and it becomes too late.

@@lalilali3750 But to do so will kill off what has made the Chinese so powerful. Exploitation of its worker class is the only reason its been able to get as far as it has. Perhaps, it could get further with a new system, but to do so would invite the kinds of thought within the population that lead to Tianenmen Square, which I can guarantee China does not wish to repeat.

@@GrammarNaziAUS well, that means they are in a bit of a situation, then, aren't they? We can see what the outcome will be. See here the price of wanting to be a regime; it makes you do things you will later regret.

If you don't give ur own people freedom then ur whole country gonna collapse. The main problem is the people running the country.

But in case of china they heavily relied on export so it worked for a while without paying workers enough to buy things inside the country

It’s not that they don’t buy. They’ve got close to zero welfare. Pensions are ridiculously low and healthcare is a bad copy of the US but with more corruption and other Chinese characteristics. They’ve got to save for old age since an health scare can easily bankrupt them. But Xi thinks they are lazy…

You got one thing wrong there. China's economy is simply not collapsing. In any way shape or form.

It's not totally true. They do save a lot but so do the Irish and Singaporeans. They ARE buying stuff. It's going into real estate. Their income to housing ratio is 5th highest in the world at 33. US is 4.2. UK is 8.4. Singapore is 15.7. Ireland is 7.3. They must save a lot because of the crap welfare system and to help their children get on the property ladder. So their consumption is concentrated into the property bubble which has now popped. Debts cannot be easily discharged so those who pre-ordered homes must keep paying for a home that might never be completed. Foreign investment is leaving. Exports are falling. Banks are restricting people from even accessing their money or placing a daily limit!

Is the issue that big ? How much does someone can male as a salary monthly ? :/

"captation"?

300 million lives were lost in China because of Covid. Thats the real reason consumption dropped and will never come back. Now there is also a huge Uranium/Cole exposure crisis in Inner Mongolia. So expect even less domestic consumption.

@@logician3641 Uh-huu - yeah. Once you show me the belgium-sized new cemetaries on sattellite pictures. And explain why an infectious disease that killed at most 0,5% of the population elsewhere suddenly supposedly killed 20% of chinese folk - 40 times the established rate? Then we can discuss. That number is absurd! And if you believed it from some source .... you are brutally gullible.

What is wealth captation?

Ok, but the chinese people on the ground deserve a better life

China is not my enemy ( and also no friend, it is a trade partner) and its collapse could have serious consequences for the rest of the world. A dying country with little to lose and a big army and huge population is a big danger.

China is by far your largest exporter and you own them the most debt (assuming youre american) and you call them an enemy

@@yuvalhason6250 don't expect fairness from flag-waving Americans

True. Bout time we see China collapse. Chinese wolf warriors keep on saying that the US will fall, but compared to the rest of the world, the US is relatively stable. China is in an even more precarious position than the US. Shows how inferior the CCP really is compared to the US despite US shenanigans.

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Yeah? That's why China has lifted 800 million people out of poverty in the shortest time span in human history, grew their economy almost 20 fold in 40 years, are already the largest economy in the world in PPP terms and have larger economy than the US in real and productive terms?

I would argue universal suffrage democracy is more costly, and is results in the extinction of our species. Men have lost their rights to put their wives down, so we are overpopulated. Traditionally they are his property. As women dominate voting, there is womens rights, human rights, immigration rights - they all go together, and has led to 8 billion people.

To be fair so is neoliberalism - depends whos economy is being affected and whos paying the costs.

Exactly. The chinese totalitarianism costs more. Than what can be saved by the lowest wages in the world. China is no longer the cheapest place to produce. China is losing.

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For those who don’t understand, Winnie the Pooh is an insult to China’s Xi Jinping. He and CCP pride themselves on a serious and smart image. Pooh as a cartoon bear portrays a goofy and dumb image.

Don't worry man. Keep going I'm interested

This must be why they're trying to go by CPC now. Those Icelandic copyright ninjas are no joke.

Very important point which is even more critical as far as long term growth is concerned

And they still don't want to pay higher salaries to a vast group of people and do everything they can to destroy their middle class, like their recent clamp down on entrepreneurs, teachers and video streamers.

@@AdlerMow This is the inherent weakness of authoritarianism, and why it can never truly succeed. Most of China's growth is all built on a facade.

Thx for the recommendation, I've just read an interesting article by him on the subject on Project Syndicate. Interesting read. It's not an easy task to differentiate between Western Sinophobic propaganda, Chinese propaganda and the truth, whatever that is.

Researchers have found that China has lied about their population size and has been declining for years already. It's going to start to get rapidly worse in the next decade or two.

mfka even dissed my ppl while at it (xi jiping)

For now. The problem with the neo-liberal mentality of using cheap foreign labor is that it undermines the very foundation of the economy and so can't be maintained for very long.

​@@MrMarinus18 It also undermines loyalty to the country because citizens realise their status is secondary to the demands of big business.

@@andrewestbrook4473 Indeed. Why would a citizen do something for their state if their state never did anything for them? In China especially there is a massive cry that the people are not willing to fight Taiwan. Most are saying "Send the party leaders"

@@MrMarinus18 Nobody wants war except the CCP.

Smoke ganj......yea......no problem here...

It has been hypothesized that some of that sort of “laziness” may actually be good for society. Charles Darwin’s experience with that sort of “laziness” led to his developing the Theory of Evolution. Others have argued for a more measured amount of “laziness.” Einstein did most of his best work during the years when he was underemployed as a patent examiner, a job that paid him enough to sustain himself while leaving him without enough work to take all of his time. It has been hypothesized that the work culture of Japan, Korea, and now China is the reason why those countries continue to underperform in scientific research relative to their population, level of education, spending on research, etc.

​​@@yopyop3241yeah if people like Bill Gates and Jobs followed all the norms of finishing college and toiling for a big corporation for decades we'd be far behind where we are today. Not to mention the massive output of US entertainment industry that dominates the world. There are probably tons of wasted talent in China who are too tired and poor from working long low wage hours to produce anything creative, whether a new business or artistic idea. and the govt isn't exactly friendly to such things. Han Chinese people in other countries have a great record of success and innovation. So much talent wasted by the CCPs system.

If you call demanding basic human rights "laziness" then yes.

Chinese already show their contempt to CCP with lie flat movement, let it rot so it will collapse refusing to marry have children.

@@yopyop3241 Does Korea underperform? I thought Korea was exceptional and for a few years were considered one of the most innovative countries in the world

996 has been illegal since 2021

@@com.grenate It is illegal but the practice still exists. The labor law is not executed as strict and thorough as it should be.

@@justinchang817 and in America child labor laws are being violated left and right. This is an issue with capitalism, not with any nation specific.

@@com.grenate Care to substantiate your claim that child labor law is being violated in America left and right? What are you smoking? Don't try to change subject. Does 996 work schedule still exist in China today? Do China have real worker's unions? All the unions in China are controlled indirectly by the state. The labor right activists are constantly being arrested, sentenced, or monitored. Few years ago, a few activists tried to run for People's Assembly in Beijing and were harassed by police. They eventually withdrew.

"996" is what Jack Ma said..."The spirit that Internet companies should have"...When did China implement 996? Is this the free information you get?

To be fair they have mentioned this in literally every other video on China I'm pretty sure. Could be wrong.

How many videos on those demographics do they have to do for you? Maybe pay more attention.

Not collapsing yet, but medium to long term is another story.

Tell me you're new to the channel without telling me you're new to the channel.

The main problem is China doesn't want any person or company having influence. Make too much money or have too many followers & you magically "disappear" & so does the economy too.

What the world needs is better worker rights and less wealth and income inequality. We're just letting the rich bend us all over and take us to pound town.

​@@RuckFussia true, workplace autonomy and a Georgist land value tax/Citizen's dividend/affordable housing is necessary.

If you look for the solution of economic crisis in the communist ideology and aggresive nationalism, you are destined to fail. But you will transform your country in a totaliarian hell in the meantime, so it is worth it.

@@RuckFussiathe earth can’t provide for so many humans. If every human is sufficient then the earth can not bear

All measures bessides trying to be less agressive and more diplomatic.

Yeah, Chinese workers getting a fair wage and more people around the world buying local products... actually that sounds like a good thing.

@@LarsaXL actually it's unemployment in youth in china is rising tremendously, china economy is suffering, and all other economies also suffer to a degree cause it's all related due to global trade.

@@LarsaXL Yeah of course it's a good thing, although about 10 years too late at least. China's the second largest economy but their workers still operate 'made in China' like they're a third world country. Certainly not normal. So much for the government's promise to leave it to them and they'll make the people rich....they only made themselves rich.

@@puraLusa other country will replace china as world factory such as South and Southeast Asia.. just a matter of time.

@@LiuYan-xx8yxVery true. A lot of people downplay planners role, until burnt by their mistakes.

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who is the Chris Ryan Stewart you speak of? Can I get a contact?

Yeah, they've hit the middle income trap. To continue growing, they have to pay their people more but if they pay their people more, they will lose what they've been building for 40 years

That’s true for most of the world though

Ah yes china collapse wish since 1960 lol😂

​@@jacksmith-mu3eeyes what a joke west makes if that's the case usa and canada will colopse in next decade 😅

@@kenbehrens5778 It genuinely confuses me when people quote figures out of China at me, are there still people that genuinely think Beijing can be trusted to give accurate data? Without oversight or independent verification? It's inconceivable to me. Why would someone be that naive?

I don't see why individualism is a problem

@@javindhillon6294 in broad terms it isn't - am all in favour of it myself. But it is a problem for, and threat to, authoritarians, especially those who hang their authority on being The Leader of The People - when people within that system see themselves as part of their group primarily, getting them to fall in line and do/think what The Leader commands is relatively easy - The Leader says this, I therefore need to agree with it because that's what everyone else thinks. When they start seeing themselves as their own masters, as their own individual selves first and foremost, that's when the problems in those thought processes start to set in.

@@Thamian yeah that tracks

No, but they will make you believe it happened.

Yeah, I've been hearing all this for a while now but most of these can be dealt with. The major crisis is the demographic crisis, which China is suffering from the most, along with South Korea and Taiwan.

Nothing they can do it's too late! All I hear is Carol King It's too late now baby, tried and tried but its too late tune in background and Boy George but instead of comma comma comma it's Karma karma karma comedian

If these problems were small the CCP would hide them

@@tbk2010 Compare the electricity consumption and taxes between China and the United States! Instead of relying on overwhelming fake news

Friendly reminder that China is the highest carbon emitter in the world so even if capitalism is terrible communism is worse.

I think they need to try to gear the internal economy away from oil and gas

Xi is totally incompetent. There is no rational decision making going on. All the smart people that would tell Xi the bad things have been purged. Xi is the only decision maker in a country of 1.2 billion people. All bureaucrats in China are doing what they “think” he wants . They recently told a newspaper to throw out all the newspapers for that week because it referred to him as president not president Xi . They were disinfecting runways during covid. The idea that China or Xi will make rational decisions based on facts is ridiculous. When Biden had a face to face with Xi, China had been having rolling blackouts for weeks . Xi found out when Biden asked him about it.

When did history teach us that?

Why then, does a lot of policy feel like some kind of economic ideology.

@@nielskorpel8860 Because those policies are invariably based on the principles of whatever political or economic ideology its creator(s) adhere to. And you don't need to look far to notice that many parties, governments and other politcal groupings can get downright cult-ish with their chosen ideology.

They inference with everything you do like having kids, where you live, how much money you make. China is Russia/north korea mix together with a sprinkle of u.s.a

We can see it right now. Christian nationalism is in the rise in American government. The ideology of capitalism basically justifies the rich getting richer and the poorer getting screwed to the point where it's just a foregone conclusion that politicians lie and cheat and steal to get ahead no matter who they have to take money or marching orders from, either corporation or foreign government (Saudi Arabia, Israel etc)

I don't think I've heard them talking about that video game

That's not counting in knock-on effects that could see further reductions.

Bro what, google it mate it’s 30%

30% Did the Western free world tell you this? 🤣

@@jkc3738 and where did u get your stat from, out your ass? Incapable of admitting the truth huh. There wouldn’t be a crisis or people reporting it if there wasn’t a problem mate

And those savings are often eaten up by high property prices.

Yeah, but it helps keep the US strong. It might not be healthy but the US is the largest consumer in history, it's ridiculous.

You seem to take “consumption” as meaning just the stuff you buy, but in the context that also includes healthcare, banking services, etc. Our consumption in the US is about the same as in the UK, higher than Canada (because Canada’s reliance on housing to generate GDP growth is laughably bad), and higher than export driven countries such as Germany and China. And that makes sense because healthcare in the US is mostly private meaning it counts towards private consumption but in other countries it is counted towards government spending. Just like Canada, China relies too much on real state to generate gdp growth, but on a bigger scale.

Well yes, of course, because it's both @@EliF-ge5bu. Plus, as I said at the end, the graphic really shows the percent of GDP consummated Domestically, which is not the same as overall consumption. The point I'm trying to make is that The West™ relies too much on wasteful consumption and expects too much economic growth. Thus far, it's been able to do that off the backs of cheap labor, but that only lasts so long. Chinese workers can't afford to live, only work. That sounds exactly the same as the USA in the 1880s. I think we need a balance, less materialism, no billionaires, and better standards of living for everyone. Good food, good company, and good cheer translate into a lot of domestic activity

It's a navy uniform, he's probably an admiral. You can also see a few other military guys in green and blue uniforms

Bingo.

Correct. Western analyst don't understand that fascism and communism cannot be described by the traditional left/right scale. Both are authoritarian as opposed to liberal democracies. The ruler only act in his own interest. It is not a conflict between workers and factory owners, but between the ruler and everyone else. Neither workers nor capitalists have any power or benefits.

This country has extreme inequality, the ruling class is living in enormous wealth while the workers and peasants suffer from poverty and overwork. Truly a communist country. If this is not a proof that communisms doesn't work, what would be then?

I think it is because it isn't just one-dimensional left or right. There is something I saw called the _political compass_ (two-dimensional) that makes more sense. Communism is on the left and fascism is on the right. But in the top y-axis is authoritarianism which both fall into. The bottom y-axis is libertarianism.

It's because Communism is an end-goal for the CCP, not a current reality. They adhere to the Marxist-Leninist "Stages of History" model, which states that capitalist countries will eventually hit a fatal crisis that will lead to angry mobs and a working class revolution that will overthrow the existing system and replace it with Socialism, which will itself eventually lead to Communism (considered an advanced stage of Socialism). Basically, they are waiting for Communist revolutions to erupt in America and Europe, and then they can adopt it in China. The current Chinese system is considered a sort of "managed" capitalist model that is disciplined by the Chinese Communist Party while they wait for World Revolution to kick off, invoking nationalist fervour both as a necessary evil and as a matter of pride that they are, still, one of the few countries on the planet still nominally committed to Marxist ideals. In practice, they are basically fascists, and no doubt there are a number of Chinese "communists" whose true ideals really are closer to Fascism, but ideologically Xi is waiting for Communism to happen, and this means convincing everyone in China as well as himself that the USA will collapse at some point in the future.

Same thing with American leaders.

​@@DK-ev9dgBiden's family spent time in a forced labor camp? What are you talking about. Xi thinks all Chinese should suffer like he did.

​@@DK-ev9dgAMERICA AND CHINA ARD THE SAME, AM I RIGHT COMRADE?

@@blink182bfsftw yeah. Fatburger, except wars. America wants to destroy the world, while China wants to build it.

@@blink182bfsftw😂

That's cause they're not communist anymore. "Socialism with Chinese characteristics" is just a euphemism for state capitalism

But redistributing wealth to people would clearly lead to a more consumption-based market, right? After all, they now have the money to spend on more things. I don’t think those two points are fully contradictory here.

The Chinese communist party realised communism does not work & is useless, but they are too scared to change the name 😅

​@@socratic-programmer That is literally my point, they're framed as a contradiction by the whole "West vs. East" shit but it's really not.

@@ebonymaw8457 I mean every system has it's flaws but Capitalism is blatantly fucking worse so I'll take my chances getting rid of it and seeing if we can make what we build next better.

And you are living on Mars? Your family has millions of problems I'm 100% sure.

Yes we can because it's not the first economy to go through the same thing. Japan went through a very similar boom but paid their worker comparatively much better than China which helped them survive when their real estate bubble inevitably burst. It's easy to say that China ''lifted the most people out of poverty'' when it's a country so large and populous where everyone was dirt poor before. Now they're just minimum wage slaves instead which apparently doesn't count as being ''poor'' according to the IMF.

You mean how they use the average daily income threshold that is actually below what the imf define as the poverty line of the world's middle income countries China manipulated the poverty line daily income to claim they had brought millions out of poverty When in reality they draw the line that is used for low income economies

@@giantWario maybe being an export driven country plays into china’s geopolitical ambitions. However we cant say that wages aren’t rising in china, Mexico now has cheaper labor than china which is incentivizing the move in production, and that is due to the price of Chinese labour increasing.

Who demands nr. 2?

​@@sblbb929 pretty much everybody sitting on the opposite table of unions in wages negotiations in every country! in austria its the 'industriellenvereinigung' spewing this nonsense since the early 2000s. for example in the us its the whole republican party and parts of the democrats wanting to keep wages low because of the import export balance aka 'china'

It’s called imperialism, and you’re right to be against it. If exploitation sources in their own country run dry, they start exploiting other nations. Infinite growth is impossible on a finite planet, and capitalists will keep extracting every possible resource until we’re all dead. It’s time for a better system, worldwide.

That's usa

Speak English boy!

That's true. Their spending power is enormous. iPhone sales and whatnot.

@@dssee5658 but country wide thats still a not a mayority, and for the whole economy thats the issue

😆😆 Speak for yourself.... A lot of U.S. people are living paycheck to paycheck 🔥🔥🔥

'We don't work nearly as much as our ancestors and have much more leisure time.' - This can be a tad misleading as the work-hours involved could vary wildly depending on ones profession, region, time of year and so on. That and people rather over-exaggerate how time consuming agriculture can be.

@@S3Cs4uN8 I was thinking more industrial age then agriculture. A lot of niceties we have these days didn't exist for my grandparents. Work during the day, care for children and family in the evening. Holidays, especially abroad, were unheard of. Even worse a century back. The complete story might be a little more nuanced, but this is a KZfaq comment, not a history book.

@@HughJass-jv2lt the US is a special basket case. Your politics is completely broken. Your minimum wage is not livable. And at least half or more of your country thinks that putting trump in the white house again is going to make things better. It's not. Though I admit that what the democrats put forward isn't much better. Put some young progressives in office that are not dependent on their stock portfolios or have other big money ties. But back to your point. Outside the minimum wage, long hour circles. My statement very much applies to your upper middle class and rich. Also even the poor can be wasteful economically. Cheap goods that don't last long are wasteful, both in an ecological sense and economical sense. Cheap unhealthy low nutrient foods are wasteful. But it's the only thing that the poor have access to. But it wastes their health and thus production and chances. It is a rather vicious circle. Giving people poor education is wasteful. You might miss the next Einstein that way and we will all be poorer for that.

Talk about dependancy on consumption...

It's not like China's current economic model is particularly green or sustainable either.

​​​@@Talisguyit's global economy that runs on private fossil fuels that hold governments capitive, including China don't ya know

The American working class is much worse off than it was between the 30s and the 70s, a time of significantly lower income inequality.

Marx believed in the end of history, namely that the industrial system of the day could not be improved upon. Just like in the U.S. at the time some people advocated abolishing the patent office under the idea that all useful inventions had already been invented.

There is an in-between to keep, and to be extremely fair, seeing how low the american median wealth is, I'm not sure the US are particularly well placed for saying that it can work. There are some states where the wealth distribution work, and others where it's a catastrophe (looking at you, Louisiana).

​@@Talisguydepends on which working class ur refering to and which state. People seem to forget jimmy crow when spouting narratives.

@@puraLusa OK, fair point. Still, you used to be able to buy a house and put your child through university on a single income without going into debt, and job security used to exist.

China is aggressive

The US hasnt embargoed anything, where are you getting this?

@@peterdisabella2156 some guy said this in a pub and he's taking it as an official source it seems

@@alexanderbrown8845 I know right, this is some wild shit. Probably misunderstood the semiconductor export controls and just ran with it.

1 they have very much an agressive nature (caugh caugh india, tibet, xinghiang, the whole south china sea, all those countries loosing their fish, etc etc) 2 their menace is prior to usa action, usa action is actually a reaction to ccp foreign policy. 3 they don't even hide it

Ah yes, saying anything bad about China is red fearing Propaganda, sure.

Yeah that will always be the CCP's solution, throw propaganda at it and pretend everything's alright. Already they've stopped publishing so many economic indicators. Their thinking is that if nobody knows about the problem, there's no problem.

What’s red about China? The proletariats there are screwed over more than in America even all in the name of cheap exports. Had they redistributed the wealth starting from 2007 they would have a rampant middle class by now, instead they have ghost cities of investment buildings and consume more cement than the rest of the world combined to keep this unproductive investment system going. Such a missed opportunity

Then leave! You're unwanted here!

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