Why the coL Dynasty was Better than OpTic's, The "Villain" in COD

Why the coL Dynasty was Better than OpTic's, The "Villain" in COD - Burned Bridges Ep.2 (Aches)

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0:00 Intro
1:56 Aches was misunderstood
10:38 CWL and CDL made Aches the villain
16:50 How Teepee hated me
19:49 Why the Complexity Dynasty was better than the OpTic one
20:52 Initial contracts in Esports
21:42 The player that the Complexity Dynasty wanted
25:12 I said this in front of my Idol (Ogre2)
27:22 How we qualified for Champs back in the day
31:28 Contracts in Esports Before vs Now
33:59 Transition from CWL to CDL
40:11 Initial sponsors in COD Esports
43:20 The offers after Complexity
47:08 The Red Final Boss
48:54 Living in the EG House
52:51 The Reason why the COL -EG Roster split
57:13 The reason why Complexity was so dominant
1:04:50 How the coL Dynasty roster split
1:17:42 Why we dropped Clayster for Karma
1:26:27 The biggest highlight in Aches career
1:38:26 The Lacefield situation in Black Ops 3 Champs
The master himself has blessed us with his presence in the second edition of Burned Bridges.
Our first-ever guest in the show, we wanted to start strong.
Come find out why the Complexity (coL) Dynasty was better than the OpTic one, Salary evolution in the COD scene, What was like to be "The Villain" in the COD space, and many other topics.
Why the coL Dynasty was Better than the OpTic's, The "Villain" in COD - Burned Bridges Ep. 2 (Aches)
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@kencult Жыл бұрын

This is podcast is actually so important to the cod scene. Having all these first hand accounts of the very early days of competitive call of duty and talking about it's history is something really special. I don't think a lot of us would ever know about these details without this podcast. Thanks, Crim

@ownedweezybaby Жыл бұрын

It’s one of those things where you were there or you were not. As it’s very poor documented

@johnnyramuz9065 Жыл бұрын

Yeah. It’s like those WW2 documentaries that have fewer and fewer people left to interview.

@iGNiTETheKiD Жыл бұрын

Facts. Great point. That’s what I took away from the video as well

@Squatch76 Жыл бұрын

Yeah the crim and pat talk is so cool. I hope they get teep as well and karma and scump and formal and clay and nade, in importance in that order. That would be so cool. I feel like crim doesn’t talk about personal stuff like love, but I know he loves everyone I just named. Especially the col boys. Crim and aches and teep and clay and karma should be boys for sure. Idk if they are but I hope so, and I hope they can talk now about the crazy ass past and how it was before it’s time and how they could play in their prime together today.

@ny2j7 Жыл бұрын

@@ownedweezybaby Yeah, those early days were the best man.

@rissky. Жыл бұрын

yall can say whatever you want bout Aches, but I'm lovin how he's still involved in the esports scene & didn't dissappear like the rest of em ✍🏻

@perpllexed Жыл бұрын

Slayaaa 🥶

@Sarg3e Жыл бұрын

He was meant for this. Let’s not forget these guys are pretty normal once the camera goes off. We love this shit because of the characters in the scene and Pat and Ian play them perfectly

@rissky. Жыл бұрын

@@Sarg3e well said 👏

@charlesdobronxcharlesdobro4660 Жыл бұрын

Who the hell is “Aches”?

@rissky. Жыл бұрын

@@charlesdobronxcharlesdobro4660 bro with the glasses

@Ldmendez Жыл бұрын

We neeed more episodes like this crim. With teepe, damon, all of them

@Crimsix Жыл бұрын

Step by step

@TheArsenal21 Жыл бұрын

@@Crimsix brick by brick

@InDatOneBag Жыл бұрын

@@TheArsenal21 dawg😂😂

@WeavyCS Жыл бұрын

@@TheArsenal21 💀

@IndiSzn Жыл бұрын

@@TheArsenal21 broo🤣🤣🤣

@CallofdutyRc2Gamer Жыл бұрын

Aches isn’t Voldemort, he’s professor Snape.

@Crimsix Жыл бұрын

I like that

@kingpong789 Жыл бұрын

Facts

@Gamerx900 Жыл бұрын

rip snape & hagrid 🕊️

@chriscross8077 Жыл бұрын

Damn

@mawillar 3 ай бұрын

Deep

@xPersianSkaterx Жыл бұрын

2 hours of Crim and Pat conversing on a podcast? inject this into my veins immediately

@808bluemont Жыл бұрын

that Lacefield bo3 story is insanely perspective changing. Obviously sad about that loss in the long run, but extremely happy for that c9 team in that context

@erich.956 Жыл бұрын

This was one of the best CoD related podcasts I've ever seen, holy shit. Brings back so many crazy memories. Porter, you are built for this man. Keep it up

@skalhoe Жыл бұрын

he listened to us and put time stamps in love that crim

@Memo-vw9bq Жыл бұрын

W crim

@Arc5Gaming Жыл бұрын

Here we go! Keep ‘em coming Crim, honestly anticipating what you’ve got lined up for us!! 💪🏼💪🏼

@HotboiEngineering Жыл бұрын

That first bit Aches said: "We used to just show up to make money and go home". Pro COD back then was a job, its turned into a lifestyle and a show. That explains so much of why the league is so different nowadays.

@inFiniteTraCer Жыл бұрын

And like he said, players these days make it to pro and actually stop trying. Imagine trying to compete for kills with your new pro teammates, making everyone better. Or just taking your salary and calling it a day.

@Sephiroth32vergil Жыл бұрын

"burned bridges" is an amazing podcast name. I hope all the bridges he did burn become mended now that he isnt competing.

@Sarg3e Жыл бұрын

Two god damn legends! You love to see it. Great first guest, love to hear you two talk about the old days. Thanks for being cornerstones of comp cod. Respect 👊🏼

@MrXunoriginal Жыл бұрын

That was a great balance of personality, you two have a natural chemistry for a podcast format. need more!

@MrXunoriginal Жыл бұрын

coL podcast will be legendary

@MrBDTF Жыл бұрын

i’ve been playing cod since cod4, starting as a 9yr old kid and now being 24, almost 25. it’s insane to finally see a lot of the insight on the backstories, i had only heard small things from friends around gb’s/cdl. this was an insane eye opener and i got so much love for all the og’s in the cod scene.

@camakaze1330 Жыл бұрын

Exact same as me bro, miss the glory days 😭

@MasterInHD Жыл бұрын

Same, I’m 25 and started with CoD2. BO2 was the best CoD of all-time

@ZP23 Жыл бұрын

Let’s goooo! So pumped to see how big this podcast becomes #coLgang

@Crimsix Жыл бұрын

#coLgang

@1gecky123 Жыл бұрын

Man this is bringing back a lot of memories of the old cod scene. Hopefully the new-gen players will gain some respect for the legends of the scene.

@krispyquam5713 Жыл бұрын

YOOOOOOO YESSSSSSS

@roxkstarz6340 Жыл бұрын

Crim is a racist

@aoverhol1028 Жыл бұрын

Always respected aches when he played because he won so much, but really grew to like him as a person after retirement. Really appreciate his input on the flank even when it’s outrageous. He a very valuable part of the content scene

@jfraz_7720 Жыл бұрын

im an optic fan and i agree. hes great

@federalknight1949 Жыл бұрын

This podcast can actually be so impactful for the COD scene. Behind the scenes looks for the fans can only bring more interest.

@garrett3234 Жыл бұрын

I started watching cod in Bo1 and seeing the col dynasty first hand was crazy but now to here first hand accounts of behind the scenes is incredible best. this is by far the best cod related podcast yet and even ip there for podcast in general. cant wait to see who is on next

@christophermcguire9921 Жыл бұрын

Only OGs will appreciate this man…. Best COD podcast out EVER! Just the stuff they said and the stories don’t compare to this

@jackmetcalfe1964 Жыл бұрын

cap

@andrewhall3715 Жыл бұрын

This is great. Glad you guys brought the podcast setup.

@JKMeZmA Жыл бұрын

This pod is so well done! Love the concept and that it’s able to travel well! So important to chat these different sides which don’t get discussed while folks play. Great insights

@inFiniteTraCer Жыл бұрын

This was very insightful, and I really enjoyed it. All of these legends and stories of the beginnings of ESports! Ive been around since day 1, I found this very interesting. We need more. Maybe some of you boys will write a book about your experiences one day. Good stuff, Thank you!

@BlakeBaken Жыл бұрын

MirX put his trust into Haggy and Sloss too much that’s what held him back because he should still be playing!

@OhAndron Жыл бұрын

This was such a great watch. During this time period they're speaking about I only kept up with Halo, so it's awesome to get such insight into the COD scene! Also, it was really nice to hear Pat just talking and not having Ben tryna argue every other sentence. 😅 can't wait for more episodes!!

@johnmurray5292 Жыл бұрын

Great pod Crim appreciate the time stamps it makes watching a much better experience.

@coolbud7704 Жыл бұрын

As a new comp fan. It was kind of startling to hear the story about the lacefield situation cause like almost no one in the community talks about

@WobblyRooster Жыл бұрын

None of them cared then or else something would have been done. They trying to get sympathy for fucking up

@checkle1 Жыл бұрын

I remember watching it live and I was so happy when they knocked optic out. I went back to watch the vod and saw the comments from people who were there saying he was being extra spicey at the crowd because of the racial slurs. Some people thought he was just being a bad sport and he got even more racist comments online.

@ivanhernandez1719 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed the split camera POV!

@_air_co3415 Жыл бұрын

I like how there is another side of this story other than optics

@crackastrami Жыл бұрын

I’ve been subbed to this channel since the dawn of man. Never been more excited to see something pop up

@unknownslayer7128 Жыл бұрын

You can never change what you have said and done all you can do is prove to yourself through action what you have become….good and bad . You guys are legends who have helped shape the competitive COD scene , again good or bad , for that I thank you!

@HiTechRedneck Жыл бұрын

Love this. Was definitely guilty of thinking of Aches as a villain since that’s how he was always talked about, but seeing him in stuff like this has really made me respect and appreciate him a lot more. And I’ve never been a fan of the narrative putting you as a villain though even as an OpTic fan myself (although tbh I root for pretty much everybody nowadays since I have players I like all over the place), his is gonna sound weird, but it’s 1000% meant as a compliment because it’s also the way I describe some of my best friends and favorite people in general, but I’ve always thought of you as a “lovable asshole.” May rub people the wrong way and fit that villain role well if you don’t know any better, but maybe it’s because I’ve been watching your content for so long that I know you’re a good and funny dude at heart. Anyway, loving the podcast and can’t wait to watch more!

@machia.x Жыл бұрын

I Know I’m going to love this episode keep it up Crim❤

@dillyboyq Жыл бұрын

It was honestly a perfect progression for me with everyone in the COD Scene. I was 11/12 years old watchin Crim come into the scene and dominate with coL & Fariko n Haggy owning all of BO2 & I was just so pissed as a kid wanting Scump to win lol. But after 10+ years & growing up I realize how important y’all were. That’s why I love everything bout comp cod, cause at the end of the day y’all are just people like everyone else. Thank you both for everything you’ve done.

@tmarston3944 Жыл бұрын

This is a nice comment, well said.

@wiseful4152 Жыл бұрын

I love these types of podcasts Crim keep it up 👍🏽

@Serrano248 Жыл бұрын

Finally finished the episode! Can’t wait for more.

@jamalshelley3176 Жыл бұрын

This is such a great listen man. Two living legends🙌🙌🙌🙌

@jeronimohuerfano4458 Жыл бұрын

Keep the journeys going, long podcast like these are needeed

@JG_Nightmare Жыл бұрын

I do not usually comment on KZfaq videos. This was everything I hoped it would be and more - really hope for a PT. 2 sooner than later. Aches is one of the *insert worship adjectives here* greatest, most needed players in COD history. It was awesome getting a peak behind the curtain of such sustained greatness. More from Crime and Aches in the future please king

@tylerchasse1405 Жыл бұрын

would love some more runs down memory lane in the future with guests. was so cool to hear the stories I've never heard before

@iGNiTETheKiD Жыл бұрын

Love the content Crimsix! Can’t wait for more! I as a diehard OpTic fan will always appreciate you and what u did for OpTic. You were legitimately THE LEADER. The leadership u brought to that team and in game leader is UNDERRATED AF!! And I’ll never forget that! Most wins out of any CDL pro for a reason! Sad to see u go bro but looking forward to content! And don’t forget, YOU’RE a GOD. Called “game 5 Crim” for a reason! Keep ur head up bro!! Much love

@KKamm Жыл бұрын

this podcast was dope. Absolutely love hearing behind the scenes about the years and teams that got me into competitive call of duty. Adds so much detail and information from the outside looking in

@bernardocardenas5528 Жыл бұрын

Goated podcast, honestly. Haven’t been this entertained in a while!

@ParadoxQJ Жыл бұрын

Major props to you guys for bringing up what happened at Black Ops 3 champs at the end. Thank you

@WobblyRooster Жыл бұрын

If it was a big deal to anyone they would’ve done something then. They all failed lace. Absolutely bullshit for these guys not to take any responsibility

@aden1430 Жыл бұрын

I could literally listen to crim and aches speak for days

@TheBarnesFamilia Жыл бұрын

This podcast was very needed, and I hope that players who are currently competing or plan on competing in the future. Listen to this because there’s a lot of things that happen early on an esports that never gets brought up that a lot of competitors went through that simply cannot be explained just by word of mouth. the energy that went into that time of growing competitive Call of Duty® and competitive halo was the wild wild west and it’s just amazing to look 10 years later and see players getting paid $20,000 a month

@ronsil5582 Жыл бұрын

Keep this coming. Definitely the content we need!

@Improvise1013 Жыл бұрын

Cool to hear that all these legends are from NC. Just had my first son and hearing the determination from these guys bc of Damon and his family, awesome stuff!

@Haidderispro Жыл бұрын

Aches is great on the flank he has integrity

@Range_45 Жыл бұрын

Love the video man good stuff💪🏽

@user-yo5qz7wm4h Жыл бұрын

Quality content!

@devinramirez2502 Жыл бұрын

Great pod. Keep ‘em coming.

@XxMischieferxX Жыл бұрын

Glad that they mentioned MirX, he was too good in bo2. Great podcast.. keep it up crim

@Yoruyo. Жыл бұрын

This is one of those ones I will be coming back to very often ~

@dozer6751 Жыл бұрын

Love the podcast Crim well done. Any chance you could do a Vanguard tier list just like you did last year for coldwar?

@zilla8858 Жыл бұрын

The camera man needs to always be on the pod. He is your Jamie 😂

@ekinbui3397 Жыл бұрын

I loved this episode. I hope to hear more underground stories like the lacefield one. I had no idea that happened as someone who watched that match live

@diegocasta3430 Жыл бұрын

Damn I had no idea about the crowd stuff at bo3 champs. Great Podcast Crim!! 🔥

@domalsop7753 Жыл бұрын

Great podcast. Would absolutely love a podcast with you aches and Teep... Old school cod fans are dying to hear that

@strathmore5267 Жыл бұрын

Love this, I appreciate it guys!

@israelsito07 Жыл бұрын

Fucking legends! Been a fan since waaaaaay back when…mr nomistACHES…is in the building. You guys deserve waaaaay more credit for how games of comp cod are played today .

@DogeLover Жыл бұрын

Loved the video Crim, was really entertaining.

@dathotbox Жыл бұрын

Love some comp CoD history, been watching for years but always learning some new cool things

@MrEdreed20 Жыл бұрын

loved hearing aches on this podcast. so many entertaining behind the scene stories

@dahgameps432 Жыл бұрын

Awesome podcast man, I would truly like you to interview Mirx, let the man tell you in his own words how he sunk his carrer. I Respect all of you, you saw a oportunity more than 10 years ago and run away with it!

@tmarston3944 Жыл бұрын

Such a good podcast, hope you two do more together in the future

@SalemXIII Жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing the timestamps!

@stonewillis1877 Жыл бұрын

this was amazing. pls get aches, teep, karma and clay together to do this again and talk about the entire scene and y'alls journeys

@Bds2001 Жыл бұрын

Keep ‘em coming Crim.

@jasonarmstrong9656 Жыл бұрын

anaheim bo2 was the first event i watched. that was when seth and nade were grinding in the summer at the house all the time. people hated impact so much. you guys were semi close to rounding out the show i was hoping you would mention ghosts anaheim octane comeback. i dont think the optic team for ghosts ever recovered from that. i wouldve loved to hear about 18 champs. i want to know more about the scump aches duo from bo1. and how you guys wanted to pick up scump during col run at some point. great episode. always awesome to see pat be pat instead of his persona(even though the persona is entertaining). it is crazy to think that back then when getting 2quick all you needed was any main ar for success and couldnt find one, but now we have an abundance of mains

@barkleytv1668 Жыл бұрын

great interview, great stories, great guys, love yall

@Predash051 Жыл бұрын

U guys kicked it. I need more of this

@Up2Eight Жыл бұрын

Yeah... we're gonna need another one of these already. Could've listened to stories from the coL/EG/early-CoD era for hours longer.

@heroesxtoki7175 Жыл бұрын

Amazing podcast thank you for sharing your story I love cod and this scene ❤

@prod.mysttt Жыл бұрын

God man I’m so glad I got to experience the bo2 comp era

@asapBreeZy Жыл бұрын

Also, you and Aches should try to do at least one of these every month or something. You guys have years and years of stories.

@asapBreeZy Жыл бұрын

This is it right here Crim. This is your super power. You can be gaming Joe Rogan. I genuinely enjoyed this. Hearing all the old stories took me back man. The only criticism I have, is maybe less interrupting and going off on side tangents mid story. Other than that, this was super dope. Much love brother.

@Setbaxs Жыл бұрын

Them talking about the good Vs evil aspect makes me miss those old days of competition in the ghosts/bo2 days. So much fun to watch back then

@ThrasherSkeets Жыл бұрын

This might be the best podcast I’ve seen since the flank has been waiting for the new season!

@HammerFPS. Жыл бұрын

Need to have aches back on again. Would love to see karma or teep next episode!

@idn16499 Жыл бұрын

hey crim, i can't believe its been so long since the bo2 days. loved the stories

@kingpong789 Жыл бұрын

Man this shit should’ve gone on for longer, loved this podcast guys!

@rodrigomartell1142 Жыл бұрын

I love the COL/EG stories I remember becoming a fan of them on those days back in bo2

@Rowan_C Жыл бұрын

Crazy how much of this history is hardly documented, if at all. Huge huge insight into the evolution of competitive CoD

@inFiniteTraCer Жыл бұрын

i hope some of these fellas write a book one day

@nichyde2813 Жыл бұрын

I feel like aches would be amazing as a co host here.

@bernardocardenas5528 Жыл бұрын

Y’all should make another podcast going over topics that fly under the radar in the cod scene. For example, the adderal use within the pros

@ToastySofa Жыл бұрын

Already know this is gonna be heat

@jacobwaddell6075 Жыл бұрын

Excellent podcast. COD community needs this!

@TissueMe 4 ай бұрын

Crim could you do thoughts on the cdl teams and standing.Who you would trade to make a better team who to drop etc.watch the cdl streams and who you think will win major 2 id love to hear your opinion

@alastair190989 Жыл бұрын

Is this on any other platforms than KZfaq?

@Blaze42069 Жыл бұрын

New favorite podcast!

@jaykesss Жыл бұрын

I dig these, more please. Definitely bring Aches back too.

@megadeth6756 Жыл бұрын

Best gaming podcast ever. Gotta have aches back a bunch of times

@giannilopez4824 Жыл бұрын

I want a part 2 of this

@L0ELIIFE Жыл бұрын

Love both you OGs although you guys have been painted as the villians I always admired the skill and dedication to the game and winning. CoL is definitely the greatest dynasty to come out of CoD. You boys consistently broke hearts and put on a hell of a show!

@randomstuff7945 Жыл бұрын

What play are they talking about at 1:28:00 ?

@Momitc Жыл бұрын

Crazy to know about the karma story. Had to go look at the pictures and you realise how happy he was LOL. Proper sick to know the team was playing for something more.