Why The Colombian System Offers More Than The US

Why The Colombian System Offers More Than The US | Colombian Healthcare

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Healthcare In The States
When we learned something from most of our clients, it is certain that the healthcare system in the states is pretty messed up!
We spoke to many people regarding this topic. We even spoke to a client who is a doctor. He explained to us a lot of things and how much Americans are depending on health insurance. But the worst was surely to hear about the insanely high cost for healthcare with and without health insurance.
Prices
We have a lot of clients with chronic health issues like HIV and other autoimmune conditions. ALL of them found the medication they need in Medellin. The very same medication but the prices they paid here compared to the states are insanely less expensive!
Let me give you an example, the client having HIV was looking for a specific brand of medication and we found a pharmacy that provided exactly this medication. We went there with him and they had to order the medication, 45min later they called to tell us they got it.
I have to add, that they gave him the medication without a prescription or further questions. And now, the price.
In the states, he would pay around 2.000 USD for that medication of course WITH the health insurance. In Colombia, he paid, 200 USD!
I think that can give you an idea of what we mean by messed up. There are so many people coming to Medellin because they feel fooled by the US system for letting them pay such an amount of money when they can just take a 3h flight from Miami and get the very same medication for so much less.
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@HowToExpat 5 жыл бұрын

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@captainu.s.america3239 4 жыл бұрын

@How To Expat ... COLUMBIAN HEALTH CARE IS A DISGUSTING DISGRACEFUL CORRUPT PROPAGANDA SYSTEM! TRUSTING THIS PROPAGANDA IS EVIL!

@Flielow 5 жыл бұрын

Its more accurate to say that ANY other countries healthcare system is more beneficial and less expensive than the U.S.

@teceffect9826 5 жыл бұрын

Just drive to Canada Ontario, and it is free. The whole system in America is just crap...a shit hole for sure.

@spookymunky1 Жыл бұрын

even in america.. yes insane, but at the same time, honestly just say fuck you all, ... lol... it works... kzfaq.info?search_query=north+america+hospital+charity+free+medical+care you do actually have free healthcare, lol./// you just have to know whw to ask.

@spookymunky1 Жыл бұрын

I mean hehehe.. america is bound to the same free medical care as the resto of the world... every country.. emm.. united nations free medical care, zero money to be paid to keep people alive

@spookymunky1 Жыл бұрын

I mean hehehe.. not me making it up, it is the truth... lol.. sigh.... one of my friends mother.. emm.. cancer in america.. they were wanting millions of $ since she was uninsured... I was just like fuck it... honestly they are bound by laws, the same laws as my own country... hehhehehe explained how to do it, he sent me a letter of her medical expenses etc... lol.. all of it.. just hehehhee.. $amount that needs paid, $0

@spookymunky1 Жыл бұрын

she was not even a legal american reident, lol.. hahhaa.. a mexican border refugeee no passport or anything... lol.... was just like fuck, just trust me, she is still entitled to free medical care, lol.. here is the number to call.

@ceciliaq.martinez1938 5 жыл бұрын

I LOVE the Medical system in Colombia

@danielurquiola5702 2 жыл бұрын

As a US Citizen living Bogotá, I would not say Colombia Healthcare is better... not even close. But like you mention some medication is easier and cheaper.

@HowToExpat 2 жыл бұрын

It's actually ranked higher than the US. But it certainly depends on where you're going.

@gnolan4281 5 жыл бұрын

My health insurance in the US was quite different. During my working life my employers included full medical insurance and when I reached the age where I qualified for the Social Security pension my $106 per month policy at Leon Medical Center in Miami included all doctors' visits, diagnostic tests, all surgery and hospital stays, complete dental, eye exams and glasses, and free delivery of all prescription free medications to my door. Many people do have an almost impossible burden in the US but thankfully I always had complete coverage. Now that I'm here in Medellin I no longer qualify for it but I still have Medicare in the US which pays 80% of any hospital bills, and there are direct flights to Miami in less than 4 hours. Still, I moved to Medellin because medical care here is excellent and my Social Security pension buys double what it would buy back home. I don't need a car and taxis are amazingly cheap. I have a couple of floor fans but my windows face north and I don't need any kind of heating or air conditioning. It's a no brainer for a would be expat who speaks Spanish or is willing to learn it.

@Danc571 5 жыл бұрын

WOW!! You got, "doctors' visits, diagnostic tests, all surgery and hospital stays, complete dental, eye exams and glasses, and free delivery of all prescription free medications to my door"...for $106 per month? In the US that is amazing. Prescription medication alone can easily far exceed that. Did you qualify under some special situation or were there other fees involved?

@p.c.h.6721 5 жыл бұрын

Very few people in America have what you had, I guess Medellin must be a really cool place to live since you gave up all that incredible health care coverage.

@gnolan4281 5 жыл бұрын

I qualified merely because I started taking my monthly Social Security pension. There weren't any special needs or other considerations.

@gnolan4281 5 жыл бұрын

Right you are. There was some kind of medication limitation but I never exceed it. They explained it to me but it never came up again and I forgot about it. I was generally pretty healthy and my medications weren't that expensive I guess.

@teceffect9826 5 жыл бұрын

Correction, the US is only first world for people with money (debt in most cases). The society is totally not first world at all. The system is backward in all aspects, even same level as in Africa.

@Jamminn555 5 жыл бұрын

Outstanding, Sam. Thank you for the excellent info, and for the offer to check on a specific drug availability. Another valuable video from you - thank you for posting!!

@HowToExpat 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot :D

@bernarddouthit4647 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for making this video. It is very helpful. My father and brother are both doctors and I have studied the healthcare system we have in the U.S. extensively. I call it a criminal enterprise because that's what it is. Hidden prices and extortion like tactics that threaten people's lives makes it kind of a super mafia. We have a toxic combination of for profit hospitals, for profit insurers, for profit medical device manufacturers, pharma companies and medical school graduates who are often saddled with debt, but who often also believe that there is no limit to how much money they deserve to make after medical school. All of these players combined with a fantasy-like belief among many people working in the system that they bear no responsibility for how broken or bad it is - all of these forces combine to make healthcare insanely expensive in the U.S. while also denying coverage to millions of people. The American healthcare system owns the political system so we will probably never see it change through public policy unless we have a crisis or a non-political change, like people moving to Colombia or Canada - makes it change. Thanks again for a great video. I am planning to move ot Medellin for at least part of the year.

@Hoetobeajew 5 жыл бұрын

What you dont realise is that the major pharmaceutical companies invest so much in R&D as there is so much money to be made in the primary US market. Secondary markets, i.e Columbia, get the benefit of these drugs without any of the knowledge or risk.

@acz88 3 жыл бұрын

This is a great video. I’m Canadian and our problem isn’t cost but rather the long wait time for care and I’m searching for alternatives outside even though we don’t pay for health care directly but through our high taxes. I’m also interest in leaving Canada someday and live somewhere else with less taxes and government regulations. Columbia is now on my radar. Thank you 🙏

@spookymunky1 Жыл бұрын

i am scottish, literally all medication free.. hehehe... some things that lol.. against the law.. lol.. like for me to be in debt to life... sigh.. i just call up numbers, hehhehe.. tell my doctors what I need, lol.. hahhaha.. drugs that are insanely illegal and might kil me.. hehehhehee... am just like haha... check my number, check my everything.. if it was going to kill me.. lol... I would be dead.

@spookymunky1 Жыл бұрын

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@spookymunky1 Жыл бұрын

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@spookymunky1 Жыл бұрын

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@imagy27 4 жыл бұрын

If you want to know if your medication is approved in Colombia you can go to the INVIMA page, registros a un click. You will be presented with a page green and white. You have to put search by "principio activo" and then you enter the generic name of your medication in spanish and it tells you if it is approved, which companies sell the medication and what presentation it comes. Also you can type "Termómetro de precios, ministerio de salud y protección social Colombia" and there you could also look if the medication its approved and the price of the avarege dosis.

@clarencecovington5702 3 жыл бұрын

During my last visit to Colombia, I was able to get a medication that I ran out of over the counter. It was cheaper out of pocket, without a prescription, than I normally pay with insurance coverage in the USA.

@mrcold8966 2 жыл бұрын

That's because because American money as much more value. 15 bucks may seem good to you but 70, 000 pesos is a shit load of money to a Colombian and none of them would call it affordable unless they are very affluent

@kellycelmira 2 жыл бұрын

@@mrcold8966 it's true that. But what the people in the US think is expensive compared to what they earn is different from what we think is expensive compared to what we earn. A middle class person in the USA can get bankrupt just trying to pay out of pocket for diabetes medication. A middle class person in Colombia would think is very expensive to pay out of pocket but will still be able to buy the medicine without fearing bankruptcy. And someone here who can not afford to pay out of pocket can still get it through the system, but sadly with the bureaucracy involved 😔

@clarencecovington5702 3 жыл бұрын

Another very informative video Sam. Question, is it true that since COVID-19 shutdown, now an individual is required to have medical insurance coverage from Colombia, at the time of applying for a retirement visa?

@boomxmilizexpathacks9440 2 жыл бұрын

I was planning to move to Santa Marta already. I got rear-ended by a semi truck in April. I cannot even get an appointment with a doctor let alone afford the treatment. Another reason to go to Colombia. Only $100 US to fly from DC.

@calebbutler6 Жыл бұрын

I just found your channel, my partner and I are trying to move to Cartagena in a year. I am a type 1 diabetic (meaning I depend on insulin injections and blood glucose level monitoring) and am wondering if you know anything about the process and cost of getting insulin in Colombia. Do you know any type 1 diabetics where you live? I know this video is older, I still hope you will see my comment. We are going to look into the advice/service you provide to people who want to relocate to Colombia, since we have loads of questions about the whole process. Thank you for the video ! (I speak English, French, and my Spanish is getting really good, I am wondering if you think this will make it easier for me to get a local job in tourism so I can get my visa sponsored?)

@captderichelieu2280 Жыл бұрын

I live in Los Angeles USA. I am 68 years old and I want to move to Colombia. Unfortunately, I can not boast of good health. I have diabetes and of course I am interested in the price of insurance that would cover the medications that I use on a daily basis. I would appreciate a professional answer.

@TheLinhal 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your informative videos. I've heard that a 70 yrs old person cannot get health insurance in Colombia. Is this correct? If not, what kind of insurance can you get at that age. Thanks for your response.

@HowToExpat 4 жыл бұрын

We will have a video about that shortly. In this article you can read more www.how-to-expat.com/post/colombian-healthcare/ But for short, you can get the EPS (Public insurance) if you have a Colombian visa.

@shinigami956 3 жыл бұрын

it is true i live here my hole life

@bpresident7314 5 жыл бұрын

hi what i wanna know i talk English not Spanish how would that be like for me coming to live there { 1} { 2} for me coming from the Caribbean to get set up apt, furniture ,internet , food ,clothes, health, traveling expense.{3}i would also like the cost of buying a house or land which is cheaper to buy house or land and build ,how much for your own car insurance and if anything else needed to be payed Just wanna know the set cost to be comfortable apt rent etc.

@HowToExpat 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Trevor Check out our other videos here www.how-to-expat.com/articles/categories/cost-of-living For the Caribbean I can suggest Santa Marta in Colombia where we can help you settle down. If you want to find out more send us an Email contact@how-to-expat.com

@JS-jh4cy Жыл бұрын

What dentistry like in Bogota? Good or aarrrgggg!

@dlukton 5 жыл бұрын

As I understand it, the governments of many countries are reluctant to grant permanent legal residence... or citizenship.... to persons who have a chronic illness. (I don't know what the situation is in Colombia).

@HowToExpat 5 жыл бұрын

No in Colombia there is no issue with that.

@dlukton 5 жыл бұрын

@@HowToExpat Thanks.

@levineberlin7536 5 жыл бұрын

ein Video über die verschiedenen Versicherungsarten dort wäre doch gut

@HowToExpat 5 жыл бұрын

Sind da am planen ein artikel wird jedoch in kürze rauskommen. :D

@michaelcooke8665 3 жыл бұрын

How much is asthma medication?

@Kriegerkreise 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know about other types of medication, but I'd bet they are probably way cheaper than in the US. For reference, inhalers are typically sold over the counter and don't cost more than 5 dollars, and you can even get some brands for 3 dollars.

@shaystar9347 5 жыл бұрын

Can I sign up for healthcare in Columbia before I move there?

@HowToExpat 5 жыл бұрын

You can with the private insurance but not with the public one (unless you have a visa before you come). But I would suggest to do it once you are here.

@shaystar9347 5 жыл бұрын

@@HowToExpat thank you so much

@abdihassan2953 5 жыл бұрын

Great info hope it's legit medication I mean not fake There is lot fake stuff now days

@HowToExpat 5 жыл бұрын

Usually not if you buy in a normal pharmacy.

@zzyzx686 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting. You state that we do not have to as much in Colombia to live. I do not have a medical condition of any sort, but will still need to work in order to rent a place and purchase food. What are the possibilities for foreigners to earn money in Colombia, both from a legal point of view, and in terms of what such work would pay? I speak a number of languages, including Spanish, but have lost access to my savings (which I had kept in a Swiss bank!) due to Obama's FATCA law and the copycat restrictions all OECD countries issued in order to rob us of our savings.

@HowToExpat 5 жыл бұрын

Sure here are some videos about how to make money abroad.www.how-to-expat.com/articles/categories/invest-abroad

@dkdisme 8 ай бұрын

Please try to avoid comparisons with the US system. There are so many factors in the patchwork quilt of paying for healthcare that it is impossible to say how much it costs for anyone individual. Government benefits, private health insurance personal expenditures, special benefit programs for people in specific situations, and many other contributors help to pay the outrageous cost. There is no comparing the US system to any other system in the world. Yes, it is that messed up. Just give us the information about the Colombian system and let us draw our own conclusions. Promoting it as "way less expensive" is deceptive. Yes, it is less expensive in Colombia but less expensive to one, is unaffordable to another.

@spookymunky1 Жыл бұрын

if you know how to fix it.. emm.. honestly I am so exhausted trying to keep my colombian wifes mother alive... it is killing us... like her medical bills cost me $60 a day... emmm... just to pay for the medication that is supposed to be free.... money that hehe... literally for me to work to afford it all.. sigh... my work is insane... hehehhee... something that I am retired from, like retired from 20 years ago.. lol.... enserios todo de este es una locura, no se q mas a decir

@spookymunky1 Жыл бұрын

I mean, sigh.. we are constantly trying to find a lawyer etc to defend her.... sigh.... emm... the lawyers ask to be paid, lol.. honestly.. whatever money that they get by taking her doctors etc to court... I do not mind.. lol.. they can have all the money, it is ok... me keeping her alive is literally costing me like $1000 a week, hehehhe.. I do not mind paying lawyers that, just so she can actually get medical aid... sigh.

@spookymunky1 Жыл бұрын

honestly, any lawyer willing to take up the case.. it is ok.. the money will be paid..

@spookymunky1 Жыл бұрын

paid not just by me, like the $1000 a week etc, em... but also their millions of $ for taking the court to say what the hell, fix this.

@spookymunky1 Жыл бұрын

my wifes mother.. emm.. all of it.. she has a terminal disease.. lupus or whatever.. sigh.. hehhehehehe... the drugs that are supposed to be free to keep her alive... literally is killing us all for me to have to pay it

@spookymunky1 Жыл бұрын

si no te creas como mi vida, todo de mi vida, lol.. emm.. enserio, si te gusta soy hablando espanol... todo jejjee.. emm.. solo por mi esposita no me importa q idioma es necesitar, jajjaja.. mi vida por todos..

@Matt-qv8zj 5 жыл бұрын

USA healthcare is expensive. Too expensive. Too expensive for some bad reasons. Its also the best in the world. I say from experience- traveled to 40 + countries. I got a detached retina in Santa Marta. My Airbnb host ( mechanical engineer) said you cannot go to ophthalmologist in Santa Marta ( big city). They are incompetent and blinded my friend in one eye. I took a bus to bigger city (Barranquilla) and met with the city’s best ophthalmologist. Not impressed with his communication or skill set. Even worse equipment 20-30 years old. Equipment you would never see in an ophthalmologist office in USA. Next day flew back to USA and had surgery. Vastly different equipment and quality of doctors. There is a reason why Colombians go to USA for medical school. Americans do not go to Colombia for medical school. If you have a serious problem you are much better off in USA. I am not happy to say this. I hate USA healthcare costs. I have not lived in USA for years. You can’t offhand say move to Colombia and save 95% on similar healthcare. It’s simply not similar. I sincerely wish it was...

@steph01879 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience. I have a heart condition and I am considering what my options are. Without health problems, I was considering living part time in Colombia, but want to make a good decision considering my health situation.

@albertomolano 5 жыл бұрын

@JG Lee It could be here in Colombia, but choosing the right hospital and doctors is critically important.

@kandykissesoxoxblessed 3 жыл бұрын

If you are young and heathy or even if you have some health problems but have good prescriptions form the US you can get here everything is good. However if you are older and need really good health care for a new condition situations can be difficult. My mother and father in law are Colombian but have US citizenship. They came back to Colombian because it is cheaper to live 10 years ago. They are 92 and 86. They were fine till they weren't. They have EPS Comfundi. Being Treated for them has been such a nightmare they went back to the US to get good medical care and they compare Colombian doctors to US like being in the stone ages. Also due right now to COVID going to Urgencia is a problem. Also why you don't mention is anyone over 65 can't get insurance even EPS easily. And if you try to get the prepaid insurance in Colombia if you have preexisting conditions such as Diabetes it won't be covered or you pay through the nose to be covered. You really need to talk to retirees who come here-because they will most likely want some insurance in the event of an emergency and they won't want to spend all their saving to prevent going to a bad hospital. We have EPS Sura and its suppose to be the best-but still I do see things sometimes when going to the doctor that concern me. Like EKG machines that look like they are from the 1950's.

@gatekeeping8528 2 жыл бұрын

What you said about preexisting conditions is the same thing in the US, at least in Colombia you can get treatment but in the US the insurance company just won't accept your money

@vannesagreenlen5640 3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry,but you are giving wrong information,the colombian government don't help the mentally disabled with money,medications,and health insurance,I lived for 16 years in colombia,my mother couldn't take me,to see a doctor sychitrist,because only rich people,can afford it.there is a work limit for people to work, 18 years till 35 years,my mother's family,they live in colombia,they are consider wealthy,they all retired,someone my aged 45 years old,with mental health conditions,and health conditions,can't survive there,if you say otherwise,you are lying.