As an “Indian” whose mother was born on a reservation she removed us from all the government programs that are available to us. She said ‘If you want to see what a hundred years of welfare does to a people, look at your cousins on the reservations’. She was a very wise woman.

God bless the Sioux nation. They saved our lives during the blizzard that dropped a meter of snow December 2022. We were stranded on a state road near Mission for two days and two nights. Some of the locals ignored state orders and curfews to go out and rescue people, people died in their cars. We were so lucky. I’m talking snowdrifts that went all the way up the sides of semis. 60 mile an hour wind gusts. Blizzard didn’t let up for 4 days but they were out there saving people including my brother and I. They let us stay in the homeless shelter and never asked us to pay them for the rescue. The Sioux deserve so much more.

Watching this as one who is part Comanche, it's hard to explain how things are or were in Oklahoma. My Great Grandparents got their kids and left Oklahoma to come to Texas, and now I have no family on my Grandmother's side in Oklahoma. They are all in Texas now. I was born in Texas and grew up near Palo Duro Canyon, so I know that area. But one correction it was the pony massacre in the Canyon that brought Quanah in, not just the killing of the Buffalo. The US army found the ponies in the canyon and killed all of them. From stories my grandmother told me, it's heartbreaking on what the US government did, But when I look at my Dad's side of the family, I also have two founding fathers who signed the Declaration of Independence. It's complicated to think of everything. On the one hand, you're amazed by how they founded the US, and on the other hand, your like, why did this happen to the other side? This was tough as a teen back in the day, but I remember when my cousins and brothers all went to the army, and my Grand Mother was so happy about it. I asked her why she said they are warriors protecting the family, and it hit me once I went in and oversees what she meant. When I came home, I understood protecting all the family was what was important now, and I went and stood and paid my respects to my Mother's and Father's families. I have accepted both sides fully.

Texas actually owes some credit for its existence to the Comanches. It was the presence of the Comanches that kept Spain & Mexico from heavily settling the Texas area, which ultimately led to Mexico allowing anglos from the US to settle into east Texas, provided that they speak Spanish and were catholic. This of course was the seeds of the Texas revolution.

I’m a Native American from the Pacific Northwest. I come from the third largest tribe in Washington state the Quinault Nation and life on the reservation can be very hard at times and we used to have such a bad drug epidemic in my village but in the past few years most people started to get clean and find their way into the red road if recovery. There are many issues in the reservation but I honestly am very proud to say that I am from the village of Taholah , on the Quinault nation reservation in Washington state. The land of the Quinault is the land of the creator. Gods country. It’s so beautiful living in the coastal rainforest

We are still here in Texas. Assimilated...none the less we are here.

My great-grandma removed her family from the reservation because she knew it wouldn’t be a good life, we’re still not registered to any tribe and I’m glad she was able to see the future because we have flourished but the rest of our family didn’t…

“The Empire of the Summer Moon” was one of the best books I’ve ever read. Gwynne is a national treasure!

Coughing at 2:35 "Tail end of the flu..." Oh how innocent we were back in Dec 2019...

I left the Rez 12 years ago, best decision I ever made. I can make it on my own.

Had a pair of Comanche brothers they were the most noble friends I ever had around me

The Comanches were “allotted” lands just prior to the Oklahoma Land Run. Based on their history, they selected lands that were on rivers, creeks and streams. Because of this, their land today does not have a lot of value. In an early career, I was a land surveyor for the BIA and discovered this.

It would be interesting for Joe to speak with a Native American and hear their side of the story.

I'm from West Texas in an area that used to be Comanche territory. A good book to read along with Empire of the Summer Moon is Nine Years Among The Indians, a book about Herman Lehmann, who was abducted by the Apaches as a child and lived with them and Comanches until he was an adult.

I stumbled on these videos. I thought I'd be completely offended, but I'd have to say, I'm impressed and will definitely buy the book. I'm Comanche by the way. American Indian law and tribal sovereignty are extremely complex and I believe people would be absolutely surprised to learn how they actually work. I gather that a lot of people still don't know about us because obviously.... we have a reputation 😑 and personally, in my opinion, we don't really fit the narrative of the sad, conquered Indian propaganda, although, there was some real hardships after we agreed to move onto the reservation. One of my ancestors road with Quanah and another was amongst the first children to be taken to Carlisle Indian School for "reconditioning". Look up the phrase "kill the Indian, save the man" if you want to know more about that part of American Indian history. But, the moral of my story is that we are still here.

As a kid, I spent alot of time in ft.sill/lawton, Ok (comanche county) and alot of them were neighbors, classmates, etc. I moved back to Tx in the 90s but still think about them and all the good memories all of the time. Lawton is a poor city filled with crime/drug use/murder and suicide but if you get out to the wildlife reserve, holy city, medicine creek, and other places nearby it is 1 of the most peaceful, beautiful places on earth. Im glad to hear the comanche people are still there and thriving. I just wish oklahoma and the lawton area was growing and seeing real investment as a whole because it was hard to make a living out there if you werent in the military or actually owning something. Id never move back because theres not much opportunity and too much crime and its been that way for several decades. But we did make alot of good friends and people would really look out for 1 another in Lawton. My family were struggling for a couple yrs and there were times we wouldnt have even had food if it werent for our great neighbors and the people who knew us in the community. I wish we still kept contact after all these years.. I want to give them my thanks and tell them I appreciate it and never forgot them. I cant believe they closed down Taft grocery 🙁 I used to stay right nearby and loved that store lol

The Choctaw nation showed empathy and respect for the Irish people during the great hunger. This was a hunger forced upon us by the British empire. We were people on the other side of the world, unknown to the Choctaw nation, yet they showed us great respect and gave money in an act of kindness that can never be repaid. As an Irishman I do not know the Choctaw, but I know their hearts, and I am proud to call them my Brothers and my Sisters.

The Comanche fought a 40 year war. To anyone with little knowledge I would recommend reading Comanche Moon.

Comanche on dad's side. Grandmother told me when the census man came to my Great Grandfather's farm in Lawton, OK, he told them they were White instead of Comanche to avoid the hate and/or fear. Rightly so, plenty of stories to validate the fighting history of the Comanche. The name was fittingly given, the Comanche were not a peaceful tribe.

A lot of us never made it to the Reservations in Oklahoma. My mother's family got a look at the Mississippi River, and said BLEEP that! They told the Cavalry to stick it, or kill them. They took off and stayed with the Choctaw, until they came back for them. Once again, they ran. Also, Reservations today are not the dumps that they used to be. The kids are thriving. They are not filled with hate. They are happy! It's really awesome. We survived Smallpox, and are kicking butt today. Just to mention the Comanche. The toughest Texans to ever walk the Earth. I will leave it right there. Mad respect!

Much love to the indigenous peoples of America. And a big thank you to the Choctaw for sending help to my mother Ireland during the famine

We are still here!! Thankful for my ancestors!

My great great grandfather had two brothers Henry and William who walked the trail of tears ...we have lost our contact

The Cheyenne used to be peaceful farmers in central Minnesota originally known as chaa, until other tribes warred upon them from horseback when horses became a new thing. They got their own horses and moved to the high plains between the arkansas and north platte rivers to become a force to be reckoned with themselves. But wild rice, corn with ducks and fish suited them just fine for hundreds of years prior to the horse. A lot of changes happening fast before the white man was even a sight to be seen.

My great grandfather was full comanche. He was mean. Barely spoke english. He drank all the time. He used to throw shit at us. Lol

We are still here ....we are seated in Lawton Oklahoma ...there's a shit ton of us ....steady thriving

Having researched Native history for many years I have and read an excellent book "Comanches-Lords of the Plains" which details all aspects of that tribes culture in depth. Informatoin gathered and chronicled by anthropologists from the mid 1800s. One of the best books I've ever read.

As from a family that is Cherokee in Oklahoma we do not trust the government. Most would not sign up on the roles or register due to how poorly the government treated them.

Joe should get a native to talk about their culture

Those days you could still cough and say “I just had a flu” without freaking everyone out...

Great video and comments also. One of the best on KZfaq.

Is the full episode available anywhere? This is fascinating

Ira Hayes - Native American, War hero, and a Marine. Died in the prime of life after returning from war & the Government had no use for him. Thanks to Johnny Cash for paying tribute.

My mom grew up on an Apache Reservation. She always asked her mom what kind of Tribe they were. One day Grandma Pearl yelled Comanche. And keep your mouth shut.

“You alright?” 🤣 fuck that was so funny for some reason

Thanks for putting this out there good topics joe Rogan love and respect from the yavapai apache nation.

Joe, get a Casino owner or Native American board member on your podcast.

How does Rogan do it?!?! He has some of the best discussions on here!! Love Rogan😎

For anyone seeing this comment that didn’t watch/listen to this entire podcast, you definitely NEED to go back and check the whole thing out. It’s hard to rank Joes podcast because he has so many of them that are extremely informative but this is one of those podcasts that ABSOLUTELY has to be listened too. Especially with all the false narratives being forced upon our kids in school these days, there is a ton of valuable information that can be taken from this chat.

Thank you Joe for an excellent, educational discussion, and thank you Mr. Gwynne for an excellent book. There are two take home lessons worthy of emphasis: 1- Don’t judge the Native Americans by 21st century western cultural expectations. They did what they had to do to survive in a very difficult environment, and they were amazing . 2- The tragedy of the collapse of the culture and tribal society on the reservations is the inevitable result of depending on “the government” to take care of you. (The mouse dies in the trap because he thinks the cheese is free.)

The Comanches did have a reservation. It was located in Throckmorton County, Texas and is still shown on the maps as the Comanche Indian Reservation.

Should have pointed out the differences between Tribes with private ownership of land vs tribes with communal (tribal) ownership of lands.

I live right beside the six nations reservation in Canada and I've been to other Reservations. They are a different world. Rules, mannerisms, violence etc. I used to live farther North (near another reservation) and when I tried to apply for highschool the principal told me I should go to a different school because of my size (I had already been lifting weights for 3 years at the time) The principal told me that because of my size I'd be fighting Native/indigenous kids all the time. so even though that school was my district high school he told me to apply someplace else.

My family has a legend that we have Cherokee in our heritage. My grandmother used to travel between the Texas Panhandle and Oklahoma in a covered wagon to visit relatives. I’d love to be able to verify or disprove our Cherokee connection. I loved the book that inspired this video.

they don't have reservations because the Comanches don't like to call ahead / they are much too spontaneous

I read a book here in Australia called ‘Empire of the summer moon’ I didn’t realise how the Comanche were a brutal force you certainly wouldn’t want to take on in a a fight.Perhaps one of or the toughest amongst the North American natives.I understand what a ‘Comanche moon’ is now after hearing it a lot growing up.

Empire of the Summer Moon. Highly recommend his book. I traveled to Palo Duro Canyon fall of last year and missed a lecture that SC Gwynne held by 1 week.

Please have more programs on this Joe. Please interview first hand the people from different nations. Hear them tell their stories and give insights into life. Please.

The history of Native Americans is vast, I was so privileged to sit and listen to family stories that were passed down. Up until a few years ago, I had family members who did not speak English.

I never knew how much Gary Busey knows about Comanches.

The Comanche res is within the Kiowa/Apache res, in southwestern Oklahoma. Lawton is the capitol, and the county seat of Comanche county.

I read his Book Empire of the Summer Moon and Comanche Moon by Larry McMurtry. As a Texan Texas history has always interested me. The Comanches are fascinating!

Joe: It’s so sad how it turned out for Comanche. They were an incredible warring tribe Other Native Americans: Yeah, they were assholes and that’s why we called them “Comanche”. It means enemy!

I grew up playing around Quanahs home. The Star House. It’s still in my home town. Love my family history.

Just finished the book. Highly recommend

I owned quantum Parkers farm with house built in 1903. about 60 miles south of Ft. Worth. beautiful place. he raised cattle. bought it from Parkers

Great book, great read, I recommend any of Mr. Gwynne’s books.

I lived on the Couer d'Alene rez in idaho 39 years. I moved away 7 years ago. I miss the rez even with all its problems the people really care about each other. With all the fights I was in I also got love from the same people afterwards it is part of living a hard life. We're are in it together.

I'm comanche and my family is mostly in denver we will always be around no matter how hard folks try to erase us..

Funniest thing in history is when a Roman general declared war on Poseidon and marched a army to the sea and they all stabbed the shit out of the water

Hey Joe, I love your program - the variety you provide. The reason I'm writing is to invite you to look at a picture of Sitting Bull. You'll see what freedom looks like; it's very powerful and moving to look into the eyes of someone who was totally free.

There is a Comanche reservation in Oklahoma, on the Texas border, near Wichita Falls, Texas.

Anybody notice Joe is slowly adopting some of Mike Tyson’s speech patterns?? 🤣

Joe: Did the Comanches do DMT?

People have no problem eating from the table, but curse the foundation of the house.

Same, I'm the second in my family who's made it to college since our recovery. My grandma has a tiny piece of barren land as well, makes sense.

Interesting how Palo Duro Canyon ended up in private hands so quickly but today its actually a state park. Definitely putting it on my backpacking list. I'd love to spend a night out there to know what the Comanche, rangers and settlers felt when they were there.

Native North Texans are very tough people because of the Comanches. My family's been here forever I can take you to historical spots were Comanches and settlers were killed. I can take you to the very spot where Quanah Parker's mother was kidnapped.

Youngest full blood Comanche right here 🤘

The reservation up by where I live really sad especially the casino where you walk out after you loose everything is known as the trail of tears

I really was surprised about how similar the reservations are compared to where I come from which is the San Carlos rez kah in AZ

The Choctaw Nation used to control much of Mississippi. They were forcefully relocated to Oklahoma.

Hiked Palo Duro Canyon quite a bit. When I lived in Canyon TX, and was in the scouts. Lots of cool engravings on boulders etc from the Conquestador.

Comanches were fierce warriors that fought from horseback . It took decades for the Texas Rangers to change tactics and actually win battles. They were feared by all including Apaches and other tribes.

S.C. Gwynne's book is a fantastic read for those interested in the time period. I always thought the Sioux were the "Lords of the Plains" until I read his book.

Joe looks half Cherokee, half fried burrito.

The Comanches were basically a biker gang, riding into other tribes’ places and terrorizing them.

They should! Panera's gets pretty packed on the weekend!

The mound builders of Kansas and adjacent states built canals, lochs, dams, and reservoirs for their vessels. Farming was done with the boats as well as trade. The mounds maintained elevation for the waterway floor and shoreline. Make water great again

This is why no one deserves reparations more than the Native Americans

It’s not hard to spot tribal land in Oklahoma, there is usually a giant casino sitting on it.

Oh he coughed into his hand. Don’t do that 😆

Nice to see my fellow Comanches on here. Probably some of my cousins on here too haha

Joe Rogan keeps it knowledgable, respectful, and open minded. Please aim to keep it at the level he's setting.

I'm creek and I lived in the Muskogee nation for awhile it was great

2:36 couldn't get away with that on a podcast right after that... 😅

when texas entered the union as a sovereign nation, they retained the right to dispose of all their land instead of relinquishing it to the federal govt. Texas used a different method than the public lands survey system used by the states

RIP Phillip Martin. He started the preservation of the choctaws in Mississippi and his ideas spread to the rest of the country until finally in 1988 the IGRA was passed and reservation casinos started happening.

Living in Texas my whole life, never once thought it was strange the land was primarily private owned

He skirted right around the question of why the comanche don’t have a reservation

My Father was born in Lawton, Oklahoma in 1928. his family moved to Texas, New Mexico, Colorado and he lived in NYC after he came back from Korea, met my Mother, who was Tarascan, when she worked for the Mexican Delegation at the UN. They married and moved to California. Seems like he Comanches still have roaming in our blood to this day .

I think the Comanches could get reservations. They'd probably have to call a few days in advance though.

Ask how one family gained millions of acres of Texas land. King Ranch

Ireland still remembers the Choctaws and says thank you.

6:00 I often compare the "change" to a time machine. People who lived in the stone age met other people who were from the bronze age.

Who saw him cough and checked to see if the date of this is within a year??lol.

Grew up in Texas. Comanche county is a 45min drive away. Fun fact they have an old metal cage in front of the courthouse. Tell you what, the Comanche girls fastpitch softball team straight up slaughtered us. They are fiery scrappy fighters. Edit: my familys land is 150 acres, we rent out 80 more from a neighbor when we need more. Its a different place.

His book Rebel Yell is amazingly done.

I am born and raised in Oklahoma, we have what we call reservations, but we have pieces of land that that are owned, and most of them have casinos on them. But we don’t have huge reservations like other states… and yes the “Native Reservations” are not really known when you drive by them. Some have small signs, but mostly they are not known by others just traveling through.

Nothing is faster than the speed of Greed.