Why the COVID-19 Lab-Leak Theory Has New Credibility and Why It Matters

Why the COVID-19 Lab-Leak Theory Has New Credibility and Why It Matters | Amanpour and Company

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With China-U.S. tensions on the increase, the origin of the coronavirus is one issue driving a wedge between the two nations. A hearing on Capitol Hill this week explored the potential causes of the COVID-19 outbreak. Jamie Metzl, who attended the hearing, warned U.S. lawmakers to not dismiss the hypothesis that the virus leaked from a Chinese lab. He speaks with Hari Sreenivasan about the importance of examining this theory.
Originally aired on March 10, 2023
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@blueberry-ri7eb Жыл бұрын

When it first came out I recall a story that two lab workers showed up in hospital sick and died and a nurse and doctor died and another doctor alerted the government and instead of being rewarded he was punished, jailed and later died.

@michelledavies2197 Жыл бұрын

Exactly I also remember this.

@MsJoaniesgarden Жыл бұрын

@@michelledavies2197 This story has long been proved false. No one at the lab got sick/died. There was a doctor who found patients dying who had visited the wet market, he was alerting the Chinese government and they buried the story because that wet market was supposed to be closed due to the first Sars 1 outbreak. Listen to virologists and how this story of the lab leak has been politicalized. Mix politics with science, you will always end up with politics.

@michaelcre8 10 ай бұрын

That was Dr. Li Wenliang.

@thuddreau5444 Жыл бұрын

The most important thing to do is reassemble the Pandemic Response group that Trump dismantled early in his administration That could have saved thousands of lives

@imperialmotoring3789 Жыл бұрын

You mean like how Biden dismantled the border? Interesting!

@H.O.P.E.1122 Жыл бұрын

Excellent idea.

@thuddreau5444 Жыл бұрын

@@imperialmotoring3789 My family has a 1200 acre cow and calf outfit South of Bisbee Cochise County, Arizona I lived their in the 70s and 80s and there were concrete posts 5 ft high with about ten strands of barbed wire if we had helped Mexico as much as we help Israel ( 8 billion a year 75% of our foreign aid , that's right fact check it ) and NAFA was making headway but all the globalist and equity fund managers ( Mitt Romney types ) went for the dirt cheap labor and abandoned the U S with help from the anti union Republicans and helped build China into the huge economic success at the expense of the American people Anyhowl yes howl The Mexican people are hard working and kind even after we started one of our wars and took their land by force It is mostly a political show yes 150,000 come in , that would be .0004% of the population not very much and they do all the heavy lifting once they get here Most of the Latin crime is done by those that were born here The immigrants are not criminals they worked hard to get here for a chance to have a better life and they don't want to be sent back and many die attempting the journey We had a good Ole dog Dave that lived in the fenced ranch house yard He was half plt half mastiff He was sweet to us but anyone else that came in that yard would be luck to only have their butt chewed off ! Ahh life on the line There is a small Mexican town called Naco Check it out The good old days are gone

@imperialmotoring3789 Жыл бұрын

No one is stopping you from selling your farm and donating the money to the government of mexico. Why are you being so selfish?

@imperialmotoring3789 Жыл бұрын

Where did the Chyna Virus come from? Communist China and Fauci or Trump?

@oliverknill631 Жыл бұрын

The fact that people asking questions were labeled conspiracy theorists. This is infuriating. Everybody who is guilty in this early cover up should be shamed and exposed.

@doreeneclose6295 Жыл бұрын

And brought to justice for crimes against humanity.

@pn2543 Жыл бұрын

I watched many interviews with Jamie Metzl way back at the start of Covid19, he really had the best insight and analysis at the time.

@user-rv8wb1nl1b Жыл бұрын

The fact China stopped internal travel, BUT LET INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL CONTINUE , says it all .

@theobserver9131 Жыл бұрын

Hari is a breath of fresh air. He deserves a Nobel prize in journalism.

@angusmacfrankenstein7227 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been watching Hari for awhile, and yeah, he’s good!

@josephhuether1184 Жыл бұрын

The guy is a treasure. Doesn’t always ask the questions I have but he always facilitates drawing out the best qualities of his guests. Near perfect balance of questions and conversation. Makes you leave the conversation wanting to learn more on your own.

@NowHari Жыл бұрын

many thanks for watching.

@quickcurechef5373 Жыл бұрын

Thank u Amanpour and co for being amazing, inviting amazing people over to exercise their first amendment rights in such civil manner; you have zero opposition in public! ✌️🙌🇺🇸♥️

@Anna-fl3sv Жыл бұрын

Theories mean nothing to me . Prove it.

@justmehello5543 Жыл бұрын

ok. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aciIiqqpzcqbmZc.html

@zoundstreetop Жыл бұрын

Ruined my health. Killed my friends. Unforgivable.

@Samson373 Жыл бұрын

I don't understand why so many people have refused to infer China's guilt from its refusal to allow the investigation to proceed! "ADVERSE INFERENCE" is a long-established principle of evidence law that we should apply to China. Under this principle, when a party in control of pertinent information withholds it (or destroys it or otherwise spoils it), the judge or jury may draw an adverse inference against the party. That is, the judge or jury may infer that the party withheld the information because it would've been terrible for that party's case. Given China's frenzied efforts to withhold, censor, and otherwise block access to the Wuhan lab, witnesses and physical evidence (going so far as to issue threats, offer bribes and "disappear" certain individuals within China), we should follow the common law principle of adverse inference. Thus, we should assume that covid came from a Wuhan lab leak -- unless and until China discloses all of the information that scientists need to determine how the pandemic started once and for all.

@tishzlyrea Жыл бұрын

Totally agree, what’s China hiding not releasing, hiding, blocking and destroying evidence from Wuhan Lab.

@walterbo7687 Жыл бұрын

It doesn't work that way. There are researchers that published a scientific result that claim the virus transmitted through a spill over from animals.

@tishzlyrea Жыл бұрын

@@walterbo7687 I know that but China is refusing to turn evidence that they have! So, it’s only logical that when anyone refuses to turn evidence, hide them, destroy them and block them to conduct a thorough investigation, there is always this cloud in the accuracy and validity of the investigation!

@humanonearth1 Жыл бұрын

Problem is the CCP lies and is completely opaque 100% of the time. So they won't cooperate, even though it's for the good of humanity. Again, this is the CCP.

@junliguo Жыл бұрын

The reason is simple. No evidence shows it's from the lab of wuhan.

@jaredwoock3478 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Jamie. Very articulate, and great points.

@sinatrabone Жыл бұрын

This channel is such a refreshing source of fantastic conversations on critical topics. Thanks for pursuing the nuances and depth that are so lacking on social media and in most other news sources.

@drzanzibar Жыл бұрын

This channel uses the same goons those other outlets do and they all have the same conclusion. At its core, they're still trying to convince smarter Americans that this country still has diplomatic credibility in the world. That credibility is solely based on how much economic and military pain they can inflict. This outlet and its guests will still try to convince the rest of us that American power is still robust, just, and correct instead of what it is: a hostage taker. And it will use the pandemic it failed to protect its citizens (and the world) from as a wedge point. Blaming another country while using it as part of a checklist to convince Americans to participate in a lucrative conflict.

@GlobalDrifter1000 Жыл бұрын

Why not interview a virologist?

@angusmacfrankenstein7227 Жыл бұрын

If I’m not mistaken, this organization has…

@GlobalDrifter1000 Жыл бұрын

@@angusmacfrankenstein7227 what organization?

@NancyLynn Жыл бұрын

Although I 100% agree with Mr Metzi, I think it's impossible to ever see a global agreement of transparency and/or accountability between scientists, unfortunately.

@luap2551 Жыл бұрын

This story goes way beyond a simple Lab Leak - Agenda 201 will get you started - Your Awakening to the Truth Awaits

@lfrost6718 Жыл бұрын

Great interview!

@sailorgirl2017 Жыл бұрын

Key word - Hypothesis. Says it all.

@misslady0075 Жыл бұрын

All sides that worked with the Lab, have something to hide. Brilliant and interesting interview.

@laurellussen3512 Жыл бұрын

True thumbs up. Thank you.

@solarwind907 Жыл бұрын

I’m surprised Harry did not get a virologist to talk about this rather than a Geopolitical commentator?

@brementmark Жыл бұрын

Why a geopolitical expert? Where’s the science? The data? What gives?

@GhostOnTheHalfShell Жыл бұрын

Low confidence is like saying it’s possible for penny to fall on edge. It’s saying something not impossible.

@paulheydarian1281 Жыл бұрын

Astounding analysis. While a penny can easily fall of a ledge, it's nearly impossible for it to land on its edge, unless it is thrown on a tacky or sticky surface. This is mainly because of the Earth's gravity and rotation.

@GhostOnTheHalfShell Жыл бұрын

@@paulheydarian1281 I am pointing out the what the “low confidence” rating means. It’s saying intelligence reports rated this way describes something that’s possible, but little else. If you have a better analogy I’d like to hear it because my brain isn’t caffeinated to do better.

@nobullman5853 Жыл бұрын

Govt loves me this i know for the media tells me so. Little ones to they belong,little ones are weak but gov is strong

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@gailmiller1732 Жыл бұрын

This guy seems so biased in favor of the lab leak theory that he couldn’t be convinced if it were proven to have come from another source.

@jasonmardoniomeza1711 Жыл бұрын

He said if evidence were found of it being transmitted from animal to human he would change his opinion. Problem is it has been 3 years and there is no evidence of that.

@josephhuether1184 Жыл бұрын

This whole story would be a great new subject for Gary Taubs…if he wasn’t already in the middle of trying to unravel the 5 decade behemoth of toxic science surrounding the food pyramid, weight loss and metabolic health.

@ivannano Жыл бұрын

Now is this guy looking at the evidence and coming to a conclusion or has he come to a conclusion and is 'finding' evidence to support his theory?

@arontotheleft Жыл бұрын

Definitely the latter.

@bobbiefrazer1249 Жыл бұрын

He did not come to a conclusion... He is merely speculating 🤔... It MIGHT have come from China... No evidence, but Maybe 🤔

@ivannano Жыл бұрын

@@bobbiefrazer1249 Watch this again. He sometimes say it's just a theory. More often he suggests it's a fact.

@MsJoaniesgarden Жыл бұрын

@@ivannano Anything in government-speak that says "Low Confidence" means it probably didn't happen but they cannot be 100% positive.

@emilywilson7308 Жыл бұрын

He said plainly that if he is proven wrong he would accept the proof. The problem is that there is no proof of anything, so a thorough investigation makes sense.

@sepiae Жыл бұрын

Why most of the reporting focuses on the minority view on the COVID-19 origins instead of the majority view on behalf of the scientific and intelligence community, and why *that* matters, too...

@theobserver9131 Жыл бұрын

The conspiracy theorists WERE throwing this theory around without any credible evidence or logic behind it. That itself helped to ridicule any further speculation.

@superjam18 Жыл бұрын

I think they had a evidence but it was thrown out before it was given a fair shot

@kodowdus Жыл бұрын

The "official" sources were labeling people as "conspiracy theorists" from the beginning for suggesting a lab leak hypothesis, despite the fact that there has been little hard evidence for *any* hypothesis to date. How is that helpful?

@tierneylogan5943 Жыл бұрын

That’s called common sense bubba- try it

@theobserver9131 Жыл бұрын

@@tierneylogan5943 You wouldn't know sense if you tripped over it. bubba, btw, the earth is a sphere.

@tierneylogan5943 Жыл бұрын

@@theobserver9131 Fact is, the "conspiracy theorists" were right (a combination of superior knowledge of history and common sense) and those who blindly followed the propaganda were wrong. Hopefully you won't be suckered next time. I sincerely mean that.

@davidgrochmal6023 Жыл бұрын

We're still losing 2000 a week to covid 19 we lost 143 thousand people. This year so far with 9 month to go plus the 1 Millon in 3 years wait to the next holiday !!!!!!

@lost329 Жыл бұрын

What a waste of time.

@carolorber6009 Жыл бұрын

At last , and finally an opportunity to have a discussion and raise questions, suggest hypothoses,etc. Previously, any attempt to do so was labelled as misinformation. That, alone should speak for itself.

@kitsiewr Жыл бұрын

Didn't we all sort of guess that from the beginning. Doesn't mean the Chinese did it on purpose (any big lab there probably involved US economic funding). Nor does it mean we should not have tried anything that might have helped - masking, isolating, vaccines all certainly helped. We didn't have a quick fix, and people were dying. What didn't help was the political team sport it became.

@groundedunorthodoxy8000 Жыл бұрын

How many oppressed Chinese scientists have cooperated in this investigation?

@carlegerard8382 Жыл бұрын

It's too late.

@MrMikesee 9 ай бұрын

For me, the origin story of the recent Covid pandemic, is a lesson about the absence of competent global governance in the face of the increasing number of global community issues that escape national means to rationalize them. Of course, the use of nuclear materials and climate change are presently the most tangible examples of this governance failure, but global expansion of economic and human interaction and opportunity are constantly putting pressure on the scope of events that are outside the competence of national means to treat or resolve. It is not a mystery why reactionary political players use such issues as the pandemic as wedges to fracture a fragile postwar rules-based scheme to unite existing nations to cooperate in effective ways to prevent energy and intelligence sapping conflict. If the Chinese government deserve criticism on the Covid issue, it is for its efforts to stifle transparency; and many Chinese people agree on this point themselves. The way that the Chinese government dropped thier draconian Covid lock-down practices literally over night is a good indication that a powerful understanding of collective consensus and citizen consent is alive and well in postwar China.

@alanprice206 Жыл бұрын

Fort detrick would be a good place to start the search

@tierneylogan5943 Жыл бұрын

💯

@robthatsme9831 Жыл бұрын

“Suspicions” don’t cut it.

@nosuchthing8 Жыл бұрын

Bottom line, no one knows. Lets wait and see.

@dolliscrawford280 Жыл бұрын

I doubt there is any proof either way at this point.

@walterbo7687 Жыл бұрын

It took 10-15 years to establish the origin of Ebola, same with Sars1 and even more for HIV. So it will take time

@bartwilson2513 Жыл бұрын

all the actual proof says it was 100% natural. But America needs the FBI to investigate.

@FlambartPhotography Жыл бұрын

Ask doctor Li-Meng Yan. She is one off the creators of Covid who worked in HK P3 Lab together in partnership with Wuhan P4 Lab and now she is in the US under FBI protection. CCP nefarious inhumane dictatorship in China was researching through Gain-Of-Fucntion research about coronavirus. PLA, which is not the army of China, but the militia of CCP dictatorship, created and patented internationally a virus that is technical identical to Covid. CCP dictatorship in China is at asymmetrical warfare against Japan and NATO. Only CCP dictatorship in China wumao trolls say the things you are saying because what you say is based on CCP lies to obfuscate and mislead. So please be careful to not repeat CCP misinformation and propaganda.

@Matowix Жыл бұрын

There is proof of the lab leak

@MP-xz7om Жыл бұрын

It is about likelyhood, a zoonosis is more probable because there never was a lab accident which caused a pandemic but it already happened multiple time through zoonosis. So you can‘t be for sure but it is about likelyhood. And many big cities in china have labs with coronaviruses. Also the furin cleavage site occurs naturally so you can‘t be for sure that it is engineered. But it is not impossible that it is engineered

@sandranorth8362 Жыл бұрын

Love the drapes!

@chucooney Жыл бұрын

The fluorescent green chair goes nicely, too...

@cherylalt101 Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the 70s! I was a teenager when my parents remodeled the kitchen in a cabin with avocado green paneling and some orange curtains. I was mortified lol! Since it was the kitchen, we escaped a shag carpet lol. When I think back, it wasn't so terrible, it was kind of cheerful for the kitchen, but you know teenagers, they often hate everything their parents do lol. I'm very glad all those green or pink or gold toilets and bathtubs are in the past though, and refrigerators too!

@t.k3025 Жыл бұрын

Hotel.

@edwardkantowicz4707 Жыл бұрын

But Fauci said No!

@Adriodyn Жыл бұрын

Mm, I think it spread at the military games in China. Seems unlikely China would do that on purpose to me, they take the Olympics and things like that seriously. But ehhh, who knowwss

@alphalunamare Жыл бұрын

Take a look at the increase in risk (from the original Wuhan) for people with relic Neanderthal DNA compared to those who do not. Then compare the percentage of people with relic Neanderthal DNA in the Western populations to those who do in the Chinese population. Then deduce the likelihood of infection for The Chines population as compared to that for the Western populations. Follow the MAth.

@stephensuddick2557 Жыл бұрын

We, as a civilization, need to know what happened. Unfortunately, we never will because China will never accede to a full airing of the facts.

@VIAGRA465 Жыл бұрын

Stephen: when a hater threw a trash of bag on your backyard it doesn’t mean you did it.

@TheRealBozz Жыл бұрын

For. Fucks. Sake. Only 3 years late. You guys are really on the ball...

@Matowix Жыл бұрын

It always had credibility

@dolliscrawford280 Жыл бұрын

Both have had credibility but time has muddied the evidence.

@kodowdus Жыл бұрын

This was obviously a strong possibility from the beginning, despite the failure of the lamestream media to take investigative journalism seriously.

@richyp64 Жыл бұрын

I'm terrified for my friends and family that took the triple you know what.

@bradsillasen1972 Жыл бұрын

Metzl makes a brief but very important statement claiming that the range status of the Horseshoe Bat precludes it from the Wuhan market, or from contact with it's suspected intermediary viral hosts, Palm Civets and/or Pangolins. A web search casts substantial doubt on this assertion. Also, complicating the question is his tacit assumption that animals sold in the Wuhan wet market are all of local origin. Note that the bat's range is used as a key point in circumstantial evidence refuting the natural origins hypothesis.

@nicholasmitchell8749 Жыл бұрын

"...thats like flying a plane after a crash, without figuring out what went wrong or if other planes have a similar issue" Meanwhile there is still no circumstantial evidence of a zoonotic crossover, so it has to belong to the world of fairytales until such a time. The fairytale is preferred, in my estimation, because we want to belief that there was no gross negligence or fowl play.

@H.O.P.E.1122 Жыл бұрын

Based on science, Vincent R. Racaniello, Higgins Professor in the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Columbia University's College of Physicians and Surgeons strongly disagreed that Sars CoV2 was produced in a lab.

@Blonde111 Жыл бұрын

That’s ONE scientist…let’s see his proof to say such a thing. Who was the MD who recommended dangerous, unscientific treatments of Covid?

@GlobalDrifter1000 Жыл бұрын

Vinnie never had commented on is it possible that the virus was collected in the wild, as many were, and accidentally released by the lab.

@H.O.P.E.1122 Жыл бұрын

@Adrift I wonder if he will again state an opinion with the hearing happening? A wild collection makes sense.

@GlobalDrifter1000 Жыл бұрын

@@H.O.P.E.1122 i remember it as well. They said virus’ appearance precluded being manufactured. We know the lab was replete with collected viruses. They never would address wild release via the lab.I posed the question more than once.Hmmmmm

@GlobalDrifter1000 Жыл бұрын

@@H.O.P.E.1122 see SBSN webinar, about Covid with Jeffrey sacks.

@janebishop5885 Жыл бұрын

Mr. Metzel is impressive. His competence and intelligence shines through.

@Costa_Conn Жыл бұрын

I think the testimony of evolutionary virologists might be more useful. You know, people who actually know wtf they are talking about?

@traiandanciu8139 Жыл бұрын

Did we know at what tissue temperature did SARS COV2 better replicate? If replicate better at low temperature,high mucoseal respiratory temperature can protect against SARS COV2 infection. Mask wearing increase also mucoseal respiratory temperature. At TWiV 659 at min29 virologist Christian Drosten indicate low tissue temperature better to replicate SARS COV2.

@traiandanciu8139 Жыл бұрын

May be even oxigen mix must be more warmed to avoid decrease lung temperature, especially If crioglobuline occur at some patients after SARS COV2 infection.

@stephenpaulson8313 Жыл бұрын

The real question is not was it a lab leak but was it an intentional lab leak?

@JP-tq7ni Жыл бұрын

And more importantly: whch lab? Frt Dietrich? And also leaked or released?

@FlambartPhotography Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Doctor Li-Meng Yan, one of the creators of Covid and now living in the US under FBI protection, says it was intentional as part of CCP PLA dictatorship asymmetrical warfare to destroy global economies and against Japan and NATO specifically. CCP believed they could paralyse world economies and get the main head, therefore making impossible financial war against China and making any observer in NATO to give up on ethical comments about CCP atrocities, human rights abuses and crimes against humanity. They thought they would nekrose local economies of small countries, become the world number one economy, and silence most of criticism to their global dominance goals. Putin Kim Xi dictatorships: horsemen of the apocalypse

@nosuchthing8 Жыл бұрын

Ok,you claim the LL claim has new credibility. Ok, so what is it? Why can't you just reveal? Because you have nothing.

@markcampbell7577 Жыл бұрын

I am not a lord of title. I didn't finish the medical laboratory technologist degree or the PhD in public health at UC Berkeley but I follow public health issues as a toxicology environmental industrial toxicology and environmental restoration A certification in radioactive materials handling and nuclear technology. BS biology BA chemistry MA toxicology. Biotechnology and biochemistry major equivalents.

@americanexpat8792 Жыл бұрын

As an engineer that has conducted numerous Root Cause Analysis of significant technical incidents within oil refineries, it's my opinion is that we need to move from conjecture to real live FACTS. The way that a Root Cause Analysis is conducted is that we always start with a detailed timeline of all the relevant, verifiable, events. Then, we propose various hypotheses and determine what data we need to either prove or disprove the hypothesis. It’s a humbling process as I’ve watched many a good theory die a sad death, even when proposed by excellent, highly skilled people, in the face of real live data. I am immensely disappointed with Amanpour. This guy has history and law degrees and may know those areas well. But he is not qualified to be talking on this topic. I’d be more appropriate and I know that I don’t have the background, either. Instead of this worthless garbage, Amanpour would be much better served if they brought on somebody with appropriate background and talked through what I highlighted above. Show us the BEEF.

@GlobalDrifter1000 Жыл бұрын

Agreed, a talking head. Let start with a virologist who can comment on cleavage sites?

@carrollclark1874 Жыл бұрын

I agree, it was said by one of our founders: Get the Facts, Get the Facts right or the Facts will get you. It doesn't matter who said what. We need tissue samples, assays and other scientific facts and analysis.

@stewartlowe6703 Жыл бұрын

Dr.S. QUAY'S six undisputed facts on origin to SELECT Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis makes great sense.

@alphalunamare Жыл бұрын

it may have escaped your attention but The Chinese have refused to allow a full and transparent investigation of the facts. It is very disappointing that people who fail to see the obvious are allowed anywhere near disaster analysis.

@rachelmaechel Жыл бұрын

I still feel there is value in this guest's perspective and sadly politics do play a part, especially with regard to why folks refused to be objective and follow the actual science in the first place. We were lied to on purpose. They knew more than they were willing to reveal to us.

@GhostOnTheHalfShell Жыл бұрын

Let’s get this straight, obsessing about lab solves no issue from fact that hundreds of thousands of farmers hunt bush meat for protein and collect bat dung as fertilizer. The spike protein is so unusual that it would never be a product of lab tweaking because it diverges from the body of corona viruses they work with.

@FlambartPhotography Жыл бұрын

@dolliscrawford280 Жыл бұрын

I don't fully understand your comment but the part I do understand I believe also.

@GhostOnTheHalfShell Жыл бұрын

@@dolliscrawford280 the basic idea is the spike protein's structure shows none of the components and qualities that human labs would use in experimentation. While an individual may have been patient zero, the infection itself would come from Mother Nature.

@GhostOnTheHalfShell Жыл бұрын

@@FlambartPhotography right a virus that wrecked their economy that causes civil unrest and undermine their national interests. your basic assertions are psychotic. plus basically how labs experiment on viruses is well documented, so is the corona genome. again that spike protein shows none of the fingerprints of lab work

@dolliscrawford280 Жыл бұрын

@@GhostOnTheHalfShell Thank you.

@richardnorth1881 Жыл бұрын

Refusing to earnestly seek out the origin of a global pandemic (and thus learn valuable lessons) because Trump took an opinion on it would be a form of Trump derangement syndrome.

@marwar819 Жыл бұрын

What, someone on A&C who isn't bashing Trump?!!! Friend - "What are you doing? Your narrative is supporting Donald Trump." What an immoral idiot! Metzel, "This tribalism of how we think, how we talk, has became really dangerous. We're in danger and our democracy is in danger." Bravo! Metzel for putting politics aside in favor of saving lives. A&C is soooo partisan I'm surprised to hear from anyone who isn't necessarily out to get Trump, who I might, I would never vote for.

@VIAGRA465 Жыл бұрын

When a hater threw a trash of bag in your backyard it doesn’t mean you did it.

@chopincam-robertpark6857 Жыл бұрын

Hari is very brave, appearing to approve of Donald Trump's Coronavirus origin on NPR/PBS. Hari is the best.

@rui569 Жыл бұрын

Trump never cared about the origin of the virus, he only cared about appointing blame to someone else. If he did care he would call for investigation not rushing into conclusions.

@GlobalDrifter1000 Жыл бұрын

Nonsense

@chopincam-robertpark6857 Жыл бұрын

@@GlobalDrifter1000 You don't think Hari is the best ? I don't agree with your cancel culture comment

@theobserver9131 Жыл бұрын

What was the purpose of the experiments on this virus? Was it making it more dangerous? Weaponizing a virus? or the opposite? If we (the human race) are playing with viruses like this, it should be done in a secure site, far from populations, and have a remote destruct and lockdown system built in. Researchers should live on site, and coming and going should be heavily screened. Any person or objects leaving the site should be quarantined. All nations should have oversight.

@emilywilson7308 Жыл бұрын

Jon Stewart thought it was from the lab and he talked about it on his show. I get all my news from Jon Stewart😂

@LordTelperion Жыл бұрын

Glad you're expanding your sources.

@sattwa2 Жыл бұрын

I contracted Covid early on-It did not take a graduate degree in virology to sense it was lab created; common sense also told me it came from China and was lab created. Right here you have the lab that was working with the virus. But experientially as well, it did feel natural like anything close to what my body had ever had before. Very weird symptoms. Strange symptoms in my head…Post Covid effects of fatigue and visual impairments. Sleep problems. Anxiety. Unlike any kind of flu.

@soonpohtay4794 Жыл бұрын

Nordstream ....six people in yatch...thats credible

@geopaulet923 Жыл бұрын

Bla bla blah

@jvzams Жыл бұрын

Should’ve listened to Trump from the start

@nathaneverson1124 Жыл бұрын

Either way it was the government

@albin2232 Жыл бұрын

I had no doubt about it from the very start.

@arontotheleft Жыл бұрын

😂 You were wrong then too.

@albin2232 Жыл бұрын

@@arontotheleft Prove me wrong.

@arontotheleft Жыл бұрын

@@albin2232 You're the one making the claim. Present the evidence you used to come that conclusion.

@albin2232 Жыл бұрын

@@arontotheleft *Prove* me wrong.

@arontotheleft Жыл бұрын

@@albin2232 There's nothing prove because you have no evidence.😂

@uberboytube Жыл бұрын

The Lab was always the logical source of this pandemic.

@mpaczkow Жыл бұрын

I have a few questions that I wish reporters would ask experts. I am not sure what is the origin of the virus, but what we know is that there are many mutations over the last couple of years. If you make the case of the lab leak, did the lab leak all of these mutations over the last two years? If you make the case that only the alpha was released and the rest mutated in vivo then why is the alpha version not a mutation of a zootic version? Since we probably never know the origin unless someone comes clean, I think we need to use occum’s razor and pick what virologists have been telling us for a long time: the more people move into the wild, the more we expose ourselves to new viruses.

@mjinba07 Жыл бұрын

There already are safety measures to prevent dangerous or deadly lab leaks, and I doubt the Wuhan lab was careless. Labs world wide have, for decades, been working with risky materials and vectors. Unfortunately, human error, unpredictable accidents, and unexpected biologic developments do occur. The ugly truth is that lab leaks happen on occasion, even in the U.S., and they always will. They're rare, and we can continue to improve safety and security, but any scientist will tell you it's ultimately an unavoidable part of research. With the astounding level of technology we've achieved and the level of research being conducted now, in addition to always pursuing improvements in safety, maybe we should be also pursuing a more rigorous approach to the ethics of research. The idea is anathema, I know. But it's either that or just accept that future disasters will occur.

@noahway13 Жыл бұрын

This is NOTHING but speculation. I'm not saying its not a possibility, but it has not one single hard piece of evidence, and the usual crowd takes it as FACT.