Why the First Interstellar Object and Alien Technology May Have Been Found with Dr. Avi Loeb

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Event Horizon

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In part one of a two part interview, Avi Loeb of Harvard details the Galileo Project's expedition to search for spherules of material on the ocean floor from the first known interstellar meteorite. Avi details the unique nature of the material, why he thinks it is of interstellar origin and if it could be pieces of alien technology.
Discovery of Spherules of Likely Extrasolar Composition in the
Pacific Ocean Site of the CNEOS 2014-01-08 (IM1) Bolide
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Loeb, A., 2018, "Six Strange Facts About`Oumuamua", Scientific American: arxiv.org/abs/1811.08832
Bialy, S. & Loeb, A., 2018, "Could Solar Radiation Pressure Explain ‘Oumuamua’s Peculiar Acceleration?", ApJ, 868, 1: arxiv.org/abs/1810.11490
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@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 10 ай бұрын
This is part one of a two part interview, expect part two on Sunday.
@realzachfluke1
@realzachfluke1 10 ай бұрын
You just made my week. Thank you so much for all of this.
@ChristianHWilliams
@ChristianHWilliams 10 ай бұрын
Mine too.
@johnathandavis5657
@johnathandavis5657 10 ай бұрын
Amazing part 1, looking forward to the much anticipated sequel! Dr Loeb is one of my favorite scientists. I truly admire his courage to challenge the "status quo"
@chrisbarnett5303
@chrisbarnett5303 10 ай бұрын
@@johnathandavis5657 he trashes people that have spent their life looking for extraterrestrial life and have contributed far more to the field than he has, like Jill Tartar. He's a narcissistic self-promoting bully.
@lordarathres
@lordarathres 10 ай бұрын
I am waiting to see the mental gymnastics from other scientists trying to disprove these. Dr. Loeb has solid evidence, Galileo would be proud.
@oscopin74
@oscopin74 10 ай бұрын
I'm always excited to listen to the two of you together. Always highly interesting and entertaining.
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 10 ай бұрын
Yay, thank you!
@andyoates8392
@andyoates8392 10 ай бұрын
These particular interviews feel like we’re overhearing a conversation between two old friends, chewing the cud. over the meaning of Life, The Universe and everything else in between. 💚♾️
@mikeharrington5593
@mikeharrington5593 10 ай бұрын
It seemed to me that Avi digressed his answering JMG question at 36:14 - which asked, in effect, whether we can infer from the spherule contents if the content of the mass is from a super hard object as indicated from the US Space Force velocity data? In response Avi wandered off referring to skeptical scientists who expect all such objects to be stony - which didnt answer the question.
@-Blackberry
@-Blackberry 10 ай бұрын
Avi always has such a clear and focused mind on what he’s describing, it’s a pleasure to listen to his discoveries on here.
@R3tr0V3rt1g0
@R3tr0V3rt1g0 10 ай бұрын
We go from finding some polymetallic nodules on the sea floor, to space and alien life in a heartbeat. Guy has to write so many archive papers just to remain relevant. His PR is top notch though.
@cf453
@cf453 10 ай бұрын
Now for my second top-level comment. A lot of nuclear testing has been done in the Pacific. Several islands were entirely vaporized. All 3 of the BeLaU elements have been used in nuclear weapons. I would have liked to see Dr. Loeb discuss this, because it seems like good potential for Occam's Razor. It should comparatively easy to falsify.
@DrMackSplackem
@DrMackSplackem 10 ай бұрын
Perhaps his team will release samples to independent laboratories for their analysis. I mean, surely they will... won't they?
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 10 ай бұрын
They did compare to nuclear fallout (p. 23) The testing was very far from New Guinea but maybe it could be from a WWII ship, since the location is not real far from Rabaul... But how would a ship make spherules idk. Welding?
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 10 ай бұрын
@@DrMackSplackem how many labs are mentioned in the paper (p10)
@chrisbarnett5303
@chrisbarnett5303 10 ай бұрын
@@nmarbletoe8210 industrial processes and volcanic processes could create those
@cf453
@cf453 10 ай бұрын
@@nmarbletoe8210 Bloody heck, I speed-read right past it the first time. Thanks for the reference. I took a look at the Wannier paper cited: It's almost irrelevant, as it only directly examines Hiroshima. There were over 2000 more explosions after that, so it disproves nothing. The funny thing is, Wannier itself cites other spherule papers that would be more relevant. One has to ask why they weren't included.
@yoyoyopistachio3320
@yoyoyopistachio3320 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great episode John. A game called Starfield has just released recently where you explore the galaxy and all of its possibilities, and its been an incredible experience. I named my starship the JMG Horizon actually, in honor of your content and the way it fuels my never ending curiosity, so thank you
@davemccombs
@davemccombs 10 ай бұрын
-_-@@mal2ksc
@Angl0sax0nknight
@Angl0sax0nknight 10 ай бұрын
What got me thinking is the combination of Uranium and Beryllium, the former being fissionable and the latter a neutron reflector. Curious on what different isotopes were found.
@williamgreene4834
@williamgreene4834 10 ай бұрын
Anything from a nuclear blast would still be radioactive and have all kinds of medium half life isotopes. They would be easily recognizable by any good lab.
@hherpdderp
@hherpdderp 10 ай бұрын
Someone elses rtg?
@hherpdderp
@hherpdderp 10 ай бұрын
Maybe its what's left of that steel cover the US nuked into space during their underground testing 😂
@ElectrasolAdvanced
@ElectrasolAdvanced 10 ай бұрын
I'm just here to say on my end, this video was posted 37 seconds ago, and I'm currently microwaving a chicken dinner...
@heraldgreenbanger5488
@heraldgreenbanger5488 10 ай бұрын
15 mins for me and in microwaving some corn on the cob. Thank u
@loganh123456789
@loganh123456789 10 ай бұрын
I put my microwave into a larger microwave and set it for 16 minutes because this was posted that long ago. I'll let you know how it tastes.
@kjhman
@kjhman 10 ай бұрын
Talk about random
@maryzakiandourrugrats4671
@maryzakiandourrugrats4671 10 ай бұрын
Lucky!
@ledarbyromeo9667
@ledarbyromeo9667 10 ай бұрын
​@@kjhmanLet's discuss randomness vs selective preordained occurrences.
@chrisgibbs4288
@chrisgibbs4288 10 ай бұрын
Whatever the outcome, one of the most engaging pieces of science in a long time. It's great to have Avi championing a scientific approach to the subject and daring to break the stigma even if it turns out IM1 was blasted off a magma planet. Many thanks Avi and Team Galileo! Many thanks, John, for yet another great interview.
@chaz000006
@chaz000006 10 ай бұрын
Dragging a magnet behind a boat is 'engaging'?
@TeeLow
@TeeLow 10 ай бұрын
It’s equal parts fascinating and frustrating because I feel like the answer is soooooo close yet there’s still so much to be done. But it’s incredible either way and I’m so grateful for Avi and his team to be doing the work
@captain_context9991
@captain_context9991 10 ай бұрын
"The answer" to what?
@therealfluxgate
@therealfluxgate 10 ай бұрын
For the next expedition, maybe Avi can reach out to James Cameron for help.
@Biedropegaz
@Biedropegaz 10 ай бұрын
Cameron will bend the science to make a profit
@TheMr32hunter
@TheMr32hunter 10 ай бұрын
@@Biedropegaz lol, you mean Avi will.
@CS-bi3hh
@CS-bi3hh 10 ай бұрын
I hope extraterrestrial lifeforms evidence will be found during my lifetime. We are not alone. Avi Loeb is such an incredible, amazing person and scientist.
@captain_context9991
@captain_context9991 10 ай бұрын
Amazing person and scientist because he tells you what you want to be told?
@christopher9152
@christopher9152 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for running the best program of its kind, John. You really get some some fantastic guests, and your questions are always on point. I could never get tired of your interviews with Dr. Loeb. I love the views he lays out at the beginning of the interview about experimentation and theory. It's pretty hard to disagree with him.
@johnfoelster507
@johnfoelster507 10 ай бұрын
I'm REALLY skeptical about this. If the argument is that it can't be a fragment of a planet because that would require a population of 10^23 IM-1s per star in terms of planet ejecta to make up a statistical population of interstellar meteors hitting the earth periodically... doesn't that same data point tell against the artificial origin hypothesis, because it would require 10^23 Voyager probes per star to make up a population? It seems to me that Loeb is trying to have it both ways here.
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 10 ай бұрын
Great point and partially addressed in part two of the interview.
@dustyhendrix1218
@dustyhendrix1218 10 ай бұрын
If it’s artificial it would almost certainly be directed to our planet.
@sakelaine2953
@sakelaine2953 10 ай бұрын
If it were random, sure. But, if it was a piece of technology...
@rossmcleod7983
@rossmcleod7983 10 ай бұрын
Avi plays both side of the fence expertly. To what end though?
@Roguescienceguy
@Roguescienceguy 10 ай бұрын
We still don't really have an idea of what resides in the Oort-cloud plus some object that could be thrown in a ballistic trajectory towards our sun could reach these speeds imho(through a gravitational swing by a larger Oort-object f.e.). The abundance of Berilium could also be somewhat accounted for if that object originated from there as cosmic rays easily reach those objects there.
@pf6797
@pf6797 10 ай бұрын
You’re the best John, thanks for so much entertainment
@justinkindler9682
@justinkindler9682 10 ай бұрын
Way to pull Dr. Loeb for this interview so soon after he published!
@thelump7622
@thelump7622 10 ай бұрын
You da man JMG, appreciate the consistent thought provoking content
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 10 ай бұрын
Thanks a bunch for the interview, John!!! 😃 Looking forward to know more about those fragments! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@cougar2013
@cougar2013 10 ай бұрын
Hear me out. Sometimes I get annoyed when I see some science news that mentions aliens, because I know 1,000% that it’s Avi Loeb. It’s like “bro, stop saying everything is aliens”. After reflecting on it, yes, none of these things are “aliens”, but at least someone important is keeping people interested in finding aliens.
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 10 ай бұрын
he is often mis-reported as "claiming" aliens
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 10 ай бұрын
and i agree at least someone is looking for stuff, and doing it in an open and scientific way
@JohnMichaelGodier
@JohnMichaelGodier 10 ай бұрын
I can give you a bunch that had nothing to do with Avi Loeb. I started on KZfaq talking about the science behind Tabby's Star, which he's never commented on.
@cougar2013
@cougar2013 10 ай бұрын
@@JohnMichaelGodier yeah, but you’re the man JMG! 🤘
@chrisbarnett5303
@chrisbarnett5303 10 ай бұрын
does Avi Loeb actually get people interested in the scientific search for extraterrestrial life or does he foster a paranoid and conspiratorial view that most scientist are the conservative, stodgy, backwards villains dedicated to supressing the knowledge of alien life right in front of our faces by geniuses like Loeb? Judging by the comment sections under the videos he appears in, I'm leaning towards the latter. Loeb takes all the oxygen out of the room in the conversation around finding aliens.
@jmanj3917
@jmanj3917 10 ай бұрын
27:01 I was getting some serious paredoilia from that last image...😂 That's f'n badass, Doc! Well done.
@gaetanozorzi2055
@gaetanozorzi2055 10 ай бұрын
Thanks John, I’ve been looking forward to hearing Avi Talk about this some more 😊
@S.A.N.503
@S.A.N.503 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely fascinating stuff! Such a fan of Dr. Loeb and his optimistic outlook on the future of scientific discovery and the potential of finding evidence of intelligent life in the universe. Looking forward to part two!
@greatodinsraven5114
@greatodinsraven5114 10 ай бұрын
Put some clothes on bro
@seriousmaran9414
@seriousmaran9414 10 ай бұрын
Sometimes he's just too optimistic, but he isn't the only scientist like that.
@S.A.N.503
@S.A.N.503 10 ай бұрын
@@greatodinsraven5114 I'm good. Appreciate the advice, though. 👍
@christopher9152
@christopher9152 10 ай бұрын
@@greatodinsraven5114 the bro is turning you on, bro? fly from your closet, trapped little raven!
@johnathandavis5657
@johnathandavis5657 10 ай бұрын
Special thanks to Dr Loeb and his team for their work, which no doubt is making scientific history. As always, thanks to the Event Horizon team for giving them a platform to share their findings.
@tobbi11
@tobbi11 10 ай бұрын
just clicked randomly into the video and Dr. Avi Loeb never lets me down. "some astronomers want everything in the sky to be stones" I will bet my life on it that you can't find a single astronomer with that mindset. And let's assume they found the first physical evidence of an interstellar object, that's mildly interesting, we know interstellar objects exist since everything outside the sun's gravitational sphere of influence is an interstellar object and space is messy and full of... well... star stuff. this is like when we hadn't discovered planets just a few decades ago, we assumed they were there and when we discovered the first one, we weren't so incredibly naïve to think that on that first planet that we detected had life or alien civilizations on it and if we would have spent any money on research that would specifically proving that fact would have been a waste of money as this research project clearly is and every time Dr. Avi blows my mind on how his obsession with alien technology and any objection to his work is a overskeptical bias towards "just wanting rocks" is frankly (if it's his actual mindset) so warped and delusional it borders on insane Or maybe he just likes being popular with the public rather than going through the hard work of earning the respect of his peers so when you really think about it... do you still stand with Dr. Avi Loeb and a few rouges vs. ENTIRE SCIENTIFIC COMUNITY that can clearly see the giant holes in his logic and theories not because the smartest people on the earth are all in some mutual denial... that would make them dumb now wouldn't it? and you all conveniently more clever then e.g. the people that designed and run CERN just know that science isn't opinion based and this circle jerk of you people that want desperately to be smart... but just aren't, will never actually produce proof alien technology, even though you really really want to and it's just slowing us down but real scientist do real science with or without your support or gratitude and will soldier on no matter how the rest of us dumb dumbs just insist giving them regular headaches "because we want to be smart too"
@johnathandavis5657
@johnathandavis5657 10 ай бұрын
@tobbi11 sounds like you are very passionate about this subject. It is okay if some people admire his work and others object. Our diversity and differing opinions(not to mention the fact we can even form opinions) is just one of many characteristics that make the human race so special and unique. Your response seems to come from a place of fear or anger. It's not about standing for Loeb and disavowing everyone and everything else in the scientific community. I truly hope we grow beyond this current mindset of polarization. Wishing you peace and happiness.
@tobbi11
@tobbi11 10 ай бұрын
@@johnathandavis5657 if Avi wouldn't constantly flatly lie and accuse his detractors of bias and hypercriticality and would show just an ounce of humility (that his fans mirror) I wouldn't care one bit what he did with his time, but cultivating an attitude of distrust of any other work than his own (witch he ironically accuses every one that disagrees with him of doing) will negatively affect scientist doing real science and any distrust of science from the public is a drag on human progress
@gagarinone
@gagarinone 10 ай бұрын
@@tobbi11 The jealousy you are showing, is a drag on human progress
@chrisbarnett5303
@chrisbarnett5303 10 ай бұрын
@@gagarinoneLoeb fanboys sound like Elon Musk fanboys
@elefannes
@elefannes 10 ай бұрын
I have to say, I really like Avi Loeb. However, I'd also be interested in hearing some of the voices he criticises. Maybe on this channel? I'm pretty sure they have some good arguments too and it would make the debate here more balanced.
@tobbi11
@tobbi11 10 ай бұрын
well according to Avi you really shouldn't listen to detractors of his theories because they are all wrong, he calls them hypercritical, bias towards boring normal stuff even though that's not a thing. all they do is point out his disregard of the scientific method witch is obvious to them but not Avi's fans
@johnmackay3136
@johnmackay3136 10 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more,his ego and arrogance are very off-putting.
@gagarinone
@gagarinone 10 ай бұрын
@@tobbi11 You should be awarded the Nobel Prize in jealousy.
@tobbi11
@tobbi11 10 ай бұрын
@@gagarinone wow, another emotional comment, not arguing the points I make, just like Avi, petty, arrogant and nothing to do with science
@LAMPROS311
@LAMPROS311 10 ай бұрын
I always enjoy it and open my mind when Dr Avi Loab has a conversation with JMG.
@whirledpeaz5758
@whirledpeaz5758 10 ай бұрын
The collection method raises some questions for me. If you were reasonably accounting for collection of samples from artificial extrasolar origin, magnets seems like a poor way to do this. The vast majority of alloys used in terrestrial aerospace are not magnetic. It would be reasonable to assume that a technological extrasolar species would be using similar alloys.
@DrMackSplackem
@DrMackSplackem 10 ай бұрын
I agree, but to play devil's advocate, if you happen to find just one component of ET origin which happens to be magnetic, then it really doesn't matter that most of the rest of them are non-ferrous. If an ET origin can be confirmed (a BIG "if"), there will be no shortage of resources spent on going back to find more. Personally, I am highly skeptical of Loeb in general. I find him to be highly sensational in his hypotheses and I find these most recent claims of his to be extremely dubious. However, as long as he's using purely private means of funding for his flights of fancy, and not benefiting from confiscatory financing raised at the point of a gun (aka taxation), I'm glad he's out there, running the edges of what may be possible.
@Biedropegaz
@Biedropegaz 10 ай бұрын
You are mistaken, every material is magnetic. It can have a strong or weak reaction to external magnetic field, but it always will react to it. Avi assumed that debris are made from iron and nickel, because these kind of meteorites are the strongest ones, so it was reasonable to use strong magnets to collect debris.
@DrMackSplackem
@DrMackSplackem 10 ай бұрын
@@Biedropegaz Understand the differences between 'para-', 'dia-', and "ferromagnetism". The materials retrieved here (just like you would with any 'metal detector' device), are all "ferromagnetic" in nature (meaning, iron containing), as that's the only type which can be attracted preferentially. Just to be clear.
@galaxia4709
@galaxia4709 10 ай бұрын
@@DrMackSplackem He claims NOTHING. That's your problem, you're not sticking to the facts
@DrMackSplackem
@DrMackSplackem 10 ай бұрын
@@galaxia4709 Huh. Why so triggered? The guy makes a lot of claims, and quite often. He's maintained a respectable media profile in this manner for some years now, and for someone to deny this is something I didn't expect, but is quite amusing, THB. Are you saying this video and the part II video after it are all about something other than the latest of certain claims which he is making? If you contend that they somehow aren't, then why don't you just tell us all how we should interpret everything so you can feel more comfortable (I'm not saying I care, mind you, just curious)?
@ggraemeffrance5434
@ggraemeffrance5434 10 ай бұрын
Really love this channel keep up the good videos
@JediMediator
@JediMediator 10 ай бұрын
A lot of people give Loeb crap about the alien thing. I think he's definitely eager to find evidence of a civilization, if the evidence is there, but it doesn't seem like he lets that taint his results. I think he goes about it in a very responsible way.
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 10 ай бұрын
agree. he says it is possible and worth investating. he is often misquoted as claiming stuff he does not claim
@Ronsilk-pu5hr
@Ronsilk-pu5hr 10 ай бұрын
Dr Avi Loeb is really good at explaining in lamens terms every he talks about.
@fluciano3
@fluciano3 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like it could have been a collision of two planet size objects that ejected the piece that Dr. Loeb found. (think the earth and moon)
@Aginor88
@Aginor88 10 ай бұрын
All episodes with Avi Loeb are very interesting.
@tobbi11
@tobbi11 10 ай бұрын
how in the world did this happen? years of amazing and interesting conversations, both hard science, speculation and fun thought experiments and now I can't listen for 5 min before getting so frustrated I lash out on the comment section, I used to listen to each one several times over, I have changed so much? and just coincidentally shortly after Avi started to show up
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 10 ай бұрын
Avi was our first ever guest, but that was before people personally attacked him for having theories they disagree with. How come Avi causes such indignation? Maybe question your own biases.
@tobbi11
@tobbi11 10 ай бұрын
this has become ridiculous, as I have said many times before it isn't his theories it is his incredibly rude and arrogant attitude toward his piers and any theory that isn't his own, and nothing has changed in my life that would affect my bias, but since he was your first guest Avi has gotten fame, written books gone on joe rogan and his hole identity and success is entirely bound to talking about Ailen tech so his life is bound to this bias, if you can not see that you have lost that last ounce of respect I have for this channel , goodbye @@EventHorizonShow
@GM98420
@GM98420 10 ай бұрын
​@tobbi11 It sounds like you never had much respect for the channel to begin with. Good riddance.
@tobbi11
@tobbi11 10 ай бұрын
maybe you're right and I was just to dumb to notice, good riddance indeed @@GM98420
@ledarbyromeo9667
@ledarbyromeo9667 10 ай бұрын
​@@tobbi11Dumb, angry folks lashing out at what they don't agree with. Atleast you have the ability to recognize it.
@CaliforniaBushman
@CaliforniaBushman 10 ай бұрын
The graphics are killing. Nice work.
@stuart207
@stuart207 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant interview, greatly enjoyed and appreciated. I wonder if a submersible would be a better option for finding lumps at the PNG site?
@terrysullivan1992
@terrysullivan1992 10 ай бұрын
In my lifetime there were still scientists saying that plate tectonics was not real despite decades of geologic evidence. By the 1960s it was established fact. Technology and increased levels of scientific observation built up the data to overwhelming proof. In the 1920s , scientists were thrown out of the Academy of Science for proposing such a theory. 100 years later, it would be the opposite. Looking forward to part 2.
@kurisi5563
@kurisi5563 10 ай бұрын
I love listening to these talks, interesting science discussed
@nethoncho
@nethoncho 10 ай бұрын
Avi Loeb, a mind so keen, In astrophysics, he's often seen. With theories quite bold, He searches the cold, Cosmic depths where secrets convene.
@peterschattmann8298
@peterschattmann8298 10 ай бұрын
Wow, I absolutely loved this episode. Avi Loeb is wonderful to listen to and so full of positive forward thinking. His is the kind of scientific personality that inspires ....well done !!!!
@michaelreagan7149
@michaelreagan7149 10 ай бұрын
Love listening to Dr. Loeb, always learn something new. On the point of learning where these objects come from, I wonder what the statistical odds are that the tracked vector to earth, was also the origin vector? I have to think IMO, that there's a high probability the object might have been bounced off of many interstellar objects, or more likely "Pulled" off course by many gravitational sources.
@crabbcake
@crabbcake 10 ай бұрын
They have to take random samplings of the Ocean floor and look for the same thing - not just find something in 1 area and base everything on believing its an anomaly. Its not shown to have anything to do with aliens. They dragged a magnet over the sea floor in a period of 7 days. Where's bigger pieces ? It wouldn't surprise me if these tiny objects are found wherever volcanoes meet ocean.
@charlescook5542
@charlescook5542 10 ай бұрын
These objects have beryllium which he explains points to interstellar travel since the sun prevents cosmic rays from reaching earth.
@crabbcake
@crabbcake 10 ай бұрын
but its not a new isotope of it? its quite a bit of work to understand the claim - who is going to do that ? its not enough for 1 person to make a statement especially when they are biased to getting a specific outcome. & also the attitude 'oh i got one of my lowly interns to look for more spherules if it was that significant you wouldn't sign it off to one of your disposable interns. Its very 'hands off' .. "test it right away ' like he doesn't know how to operate the instrument. These type of guys get so removed from reality at this stage in their life. @@charlescook5542
@jjmusicfordummies
@jjmusicfordummies 10 ай бұрын
Best channel, best written journalism I know of right now. John, one day, if I get a lot of money somehow, you’re my first big donation. Right now I’ll keep liking and commenting and enjoying the fruits of your mind :)
@damianp7313
@damianp7313 10 ай бұрын
Yup hes the only youtuber i sent a few bucks too... 🎉im poor
@JohnMichaelGodier
@JohnMichaelGodier 10 ай бұрын
Thanks everybody! Much more content to come. Onward.
@amangogna68
@amangogna68 10 ай бұрын
Great video and information !
@squigglesmcjr199
@squigglesmcjr199 10 ай бұрын
Its about time you got dr avi back on
@biosphere8488
@biosphere8488 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@foracal5608
@foracal5608 10 ай бұрын
Yay! Another video
@Brotherbranflakes
@Brotherbranflakes 10 ай бұрын
Wonderful episode. If only we could go into space and harvest the large interstellar asteroids ourselves, before they burn up in our atmosphere, Imagine how much more we could learn compared to a grain smaller than a sand particle.
@user-sm2gx6ni5q
@user-sm2gx6ni5q 10 ай бұрын
This world needs more scientists like Dr.loeb.
@leehillaby1706
@leehillaby1706 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kick ass content.
@mikeharrington5593
@mikeharrington5593 10 ай бұрын
A question for Prof Loeb: at the speed which Oumuamua exited our solar system, how long will it take for it to reach another star system in the apparent direction which it is travelling?
@Bow-to-the-absurd
@Bow-to-the-absurd 10 ай бұрын
Thousands of years
@MortenChristensen1979.
@MortenChristensen1979. 9 ай бұрын
Oumuamua originated from a very special frame of reference, the so-called local standard of rest (LSR), which is defined by averaging the random motions of all the stars in the vicinity of the sun. Only one star in 500 is moving as slowly as ‘Oumuamua in that frame.
@brick6347
@brick6347 10 ай бұрын
I'll wait for part two before I draw any conclusions... But I give Avi a lot of kudos for going in the field. The ocean is a harsh environment and ships are dangerous places. I don't think a lot people realise how many lives are lost each year at sea.
@bigcauc7530
@bigcauc7530 10 ай бұрын
I would guess not a significant amount, based on how much travel happens in the ocean. It is safe enough for people to want to go on cruises every year. I would bargain that most deaths happen on smaller boats/ships, like those for fishing. I'm sure Avi would be fine multiple times over. Not say there's no danger. It's just not that significant unless you drive into a storm.
@WerZel
@WerZel 10 ай бұрын
Not enough sadly. If people knew just how much pollution and damage to the environment and over fishing are caused by people using the ocean they would get up and do something about it before it's too late. Then again, I think it's too late already. We are the worst parasite on this planet and nothing can stop us but ourselves
@ChristianHWilliams
@ChristianHWilliams 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this program. I’ve been waiting for the Loeb data all year. Avi is my hero.
@captain_context9991
@captain_context9991 10 ай бұрын
What. Because he tells you what you want to be told?
@RichUniverse_
@RichUniverse_ 10 ай бұрын
We need to know if they are quasi-crystalline formations meta material and that will tell us if it’s from another solar system or the possibility that it’s a voyager type object from a distant system but Avi would likely agree that quasi-crystalline structure is key.
@johnn.3887
@johnn.3887 10 ай бұрын
Been waiting on pins and needles for this one.
@chromabotia
@chromabotia 10 ай бұрын
So good!
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 10 ай бұрын
Beryllium is often used as a neutron reflector and uranium can obviously be reactor fuel. Assuming it was a nuclear reactor, how long would it take before all traces of heavier elements than uranium decayed?
@jeffsadler655
@jeffsadler655 10 ай бұрын
Is it possible these spherules and uranium content could be due to the above ground nuclear bomb (A bomb and H bomb) testing carried out by the British etc., and not from space ?
@Cant_find_good_Handle
@Cant_find_good_Handle 10 ай бұрын
Could they use the ratio of uranium 235 to make guesses as to which stars within a few hundred light years it could have came from assuming. Obviously it could be much farther, but that would give at least an interesting starting point.
@africanelectron751
@africanelectron751 10 ай бұрын
Tell me someone will try recreate the metal alloy and study if it has worth while properties.
@empireempire3545
@empireempire3545 10 ай бұрын
Loeb accuess others of being arrogant, while being the same himself : D Dark matter is far from being the only game in town and its existence has not been proven in any way shape or form. His comments about resilience of biology is ridiculous, clearly he knows nothing about it.
@juliafox7904
@juliafox7904 10 ай бұрын
Great talk thanks 🙏
@uktenatsila9168
@uktenatsila9168 10 ай бұрын
Excellent! Many of the UFO/UAP hype talking heads are not covering this seriously. In fact, those who are clearly grifting on the subject have chosen this time to shout louder with regards to the rumor mill. Thank you for the great videos and interviews!
@pigbenis8366
@pigbenis8366 10 ай бұрын
I've seen dozens and dozens of articles saying that Dr Loeb has claimed to have found alien technology. 🤦 I've been following him for a while now on here and his blog and I've never seen him claim such a thing. He proposed what if scenarios but I haven't seen him claim such a huge discovery.
@Jim0i0
@Jim0i0 10 ай бұрын
Stoked
@Jammin247
@Jammin247 10 ай бұрын
"You have fallen into Event Horizon"
@tobbi11
@tobbi11 10 ай бұрын
Event Horizon you have fallen 😞
@charlescook5542
@charlescook5542 10 ай бұрын
“We have not converged yet on a decision.” Avi whipping out the hive mind speak, I eagerly await the arrival of the machine overlords!
@jonas7510
@jonas7510 10 ай бұрын
so is the isotopic composition of the uranium itself different from what we have on earth and the solar system ? if it is enriched or depleted in U-235 , that would at least confirm that it's elements originate from a different stellar system . if *highly* enriched ... well , your guess is probably as disturbing as mine .
@kushluk777
@kushluk777 10 ай бұрын
Gotta activate my Brain Loeb to listen to this.
@trumpingtonfanhurst694
@trumpingtonfanhurst694 10 ай бұрын
I'm glad I'm not a string theorist. Everyone's just gleefully ripping them new ones today like Sheldon Cooper
@ChristianHWilliams
@ChristianHWilliams 10 ай бұрын
Their arrogance deserves it.
@cougar2013
@cougar2013 10 ай бұрын
@@ChristianHWilliamsand also never coming up with testable predictions!
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 10 ай бұрын
meanwhile the research progresses and is producing interesting results at the very least it is interesting math
@DrMackSplackem
@DrMackSplackem 10 ай бұрын
@@nmarbletoe8210 It must be comfortable never having to make testable predictions or validate hypotheses, but every grift has its day, and this one's pretty much done, I think.
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 10 ай бұрын
@@DrMackSplackem The Pentagon gave the coordinates. They hypothesized there might be pieces of a meteor. They found some. They hypothesized that they might be unusual since the speed and strength were unusual. Five were unusual.
@Loneranger670
@Loneranger670 10 ай бұрын
Thank you
@thecocktailoasis1849
@thecocktailoasis1849 10 ай бұрын
The background music is a distraction, introducing unnecessary struggle in understanding the conversation.
@mshepard2264
@mshepard2264 10 ай бұрын
An ideal ship if you could get it would be the EV Nautilus owned by OET. The ship was set up by Bob Ballard for just this kind of search. I have worked with them they are great at finding small things on the bottom of the ocean. Also get some kind of high resolution magnetometers preferably a differential one.
@mshepard2264
@mshepard2264 10 ай бұрын
also Bob likes space
@mshepard2264
@mshepard2264 10 ай бұрын
I have located things as small as cannon balls with a cesium magnetometer tow-fish. You need to get within a couple meters of the bottom so you might need an auv or steerable towed platform
@CptTango22
@CptTango22 10 ай бұрын
KZfaq was created solely for JMG x Avi Loeb content. No one can convince me otherwise
@TheHighlanderprime
@TheHighlanderprime 10 ай бұрын
I am a big Avi Loeb fan. But I do push back when he uses theoretical and imaginative ideas as in String Theory versus hard material science and experimentations surrounding tangible reality. The human being can both coexist as an imaginative scientist without full material knowledge dreaming or theorizing about what’s yet to be, and the hard materialist scientist who only responds to material data to make sense of reality. One doesn’t have to be better or more valid than the other in our quest for knowledge and discoveries.
@ChristianHWilliams
@ChristianHWilliams 10 ай бұрын
I love this but can’t focus on the technical aspects of the spherules with the music playing louder than Avi’s voice.
@ChristianHWilliams
@ChristianHWilliams 10 ай бұрын
Please turn down (off)) the music.
@WackyAmoebatrons
@WackyAmoebatrons 10 ай бұрын
It's never aliens, until it's aliens. This is not aliens. This is not the "beam" handle of the transporter. It's a clump of... some elements.
@SevenSixTwo2012
@SevenSixTwo2012 10 ай бұрын
Fascinating topic. It's good to see that there is real and objective science being done to discover the truth, whatever it may be.
@TonHaring
@TonHaring 10 ай бұрын
I would love to see more independant research on this material.
@dentonfender6492
@dentonfender6492 10 ай бұрын
How about Gold used in integrated circuits. If it was an Alien craft, the craft may have electronics, and or computers that incorporated miniature circuits within that used Gold rather than copper, or some other metal as the pathway for electrons to move from semiconductor to semiconductor within a circuit just as we would have used.
@madpanda7954
@madpanda7954 10 ай бұрын
Why not directly approaching Elon Musk or Bezos for sponsorship? Discovering that this is an alien artifact would hugely boost the space exploration efforts by both governments and businesses, which is in the line of interest of both SpaceX and Blue Origin.
@tobbi11
@tobbi11 10 ай бұрын
🤣
@ChristianHWilliams
@ChristianHWilliams 10 ай бұрын
There is no music at 45:18. Why so loud during the highly technical spherule discussion. Sorry dude but I can’t focus. Please let me know if I’m out of line.
@ChristianHWilliams
@ChristianHWilliams 10 ай бұрын
Sorry I meant 32:50.
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 10 ай бұрын
Sorry if it’s too loud for you. I’ll give it another look and see if it wasn’t mixed correctly.
@ChristianHWilliams
@ChristianHWilliams 10 ай бұрын
You have no idea how much your attention to this means. I love your program
@agnulittumc
@agnulittumc 10 ай бұрын
I did not understand, they found 700 spherules along the supposed path of the meteor, analyzed many and only 5 presented the "be.la.u." composition? Or they did analyzed only 5 of the 700 spherules they picked up?
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 10 ай бұрын
they analyzed 52 so far. 47 were 'normal' and 5 had unusual composition.
@agnulittumc
@agnulittumc 10 ай бұрын
@@nmarbletoe8210 well then I am even more confused. Should this mean that the meteor was heterogeneous in composition? Shouldn't this be an aspect to point out? Is it common for a meteorite to have heterogenoous composition?
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 10 ай бұрын
@@agnulittumc The 47 were probably not from the meteor but from volcanoes or some other earth source. They found the '47 normal' spherules in both the impact zone and the control areas, but all 5 of the anomalous spherules were from the impact zone.
@agnulittumc
@agnulittumc 10 ай бұрын
@@nmarbletoe8210 ok it makes sense. It implies that most of what they sampled along the meteor's path os just normal earthy stuff but still 5 spherules are at least some evidence. Following prof. Loeb's blog I know they first found only 50 spherules, when they were still on the boat, and then found the other 650 after re-analyzing the material they brought back. I wonder if these 5 spherules are from the first group of spherules found on the boat, or they belong to the group identified in the lab in the US..
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 10 ай бұрын
oops they analyzed 57 and there were 52 normal, 5 odd ones 13:13 sounds like the 'normal' ones could be from solar system meteorites, i type and s type whatever that is
@hherpdderp
@hherpdderp 10 ай бұрын
If we know the direction it came from and speed , is it worth looking that way for stars? Edit:nvm he answers that
@staticgrass
@staticgrass 10 ай бұрын
I am glad he found the spherules but where is the rest of it.
@jamesholland5761
@jamesholland5761 10 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this, thank you!
@williamdrijver4141
@williamdrijver4141 10 ай бұрын
Disgusting how critical some "scientists" were of Mr Loeb prior to the expedition. With a small budget such remarkable succes was achieved by Avi and his team! We need more people like him! Totally amazing guy.
@derp195
@derp195 10 ай бұрын
It went beyond being critical, they tried to drag his name through the mud. They tried to ruin his credibility.
@danbhakta
@danbhakta 10 ай бұрын
The critical "scientists" are in fear of losing THEIR own funding. They can't have guys like Loeb mucking up their comfortable pragmatic lives.
@MARILYNANDERSON88
@MARILYNANDERSON88 10 ай бұрын
So very exciting.
@MARILYNANDERSON88
@MARILYNANDERSON88 10 ай бұрын
Great hire, Harvard U. Thanks to you a rogue scientist makes a treasure of an advancement.
@TGBurgerGaming
@TGBurgerGaming 10 ай бұрын
Saturday arvo vid drop. ✊
@quivalla
@quivalla 10 ай бұрын
I have been pondering what modeling did he use to find the spherules, as i would expect to find very little of them in the actual strewn field. They are so small and the depth so deep its not hard to reason the spherules would drift well beyond the projected field of the main body. The tidal flow in that region is not that significant as other areas but directional currents should easily drift these particles well beyond the known strewn field. How did the modeling show these would reach the sea floor at that depth within the field.
@cf453
@cf453 10 ай бұрын
The paper is linked in the description. I read it, but I think it only partially addresses your question.
@rossmcleod7983
@rossmcleod7983 10 ай бұрын
Excellent point quivalla.
@quivalla
@quivalla 10 ай бұрын
Im not an expert at all just curious . I calculated using steel ball bearings with the same diameter and weight as one average spherule it would take over 10 hours to reach the sea floor at the shallowest search depth of 1500 meters. The Western Equatorial Pacific Ocean Circulation Study stated that the current had a velocity maximum of −50 cm/s at approximately 200 m ( I dont have any data deeper) so these particles could easily drift 19 km before reaching the Ocean floor. Even minimizing would be well outside the field as its only 1km in diameter. They should find particles well outside the field. I know he found them I just don't understand how. @@cf453
@phoule76
@phoule76 10 ай бұрын
we have to rule out volcanic origins for the spherules, speaking of magma planets
@mshepard2264
@mshepard2264 10 ай бұрын
When Avi goes back they really need an AUV with imaging sonar. An rov in case they find somethimg interesting. If only I had an extra 2 million.
@txgho634
@txgho634 10 ай бұрын
Avi found part of the ablative shielding. The core or prize did not loiter. That transient Amuamua may have ejected this and others as a ballast of excelleration mass.
@Max_Chooch
@Max_Chooch 10 ай бұрын
I seriously doubt those are from that specific meteor. Y'all need to check naval history in that area, could be from weapons testing or training exercises. Especially with uranium present. I'm dubious.
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 10 ай бұрын
Very valid point.
@timrose9826
@timrose9826 10 ай бұрын
Used to be ppl believed nothing without proof Now ppl believe everything with No proof It’s just sad….
@19vangogh94
@19vangogh94 10 ай бұрын
Posted a comment already but it seems yt didn't like it because i can't see it.. anyways thanks for the interview, always nice to hear from Dr Avi. I really hope we've found some interstellar material but reading harsh and seemingly valid criticism of the paper from Steve Desch on twtr I've become rather sceptical
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 10 ай бұрын
The first tweet in that thread seems to have been written without the knowledge that Avi and his team DID take control samples.
@19vangogh94
@19vangogh94 10 ай бұрын
​@@EventHorizonShowyes I don't think everything written in that thread is a good rebuttal, but the part about chemical composition of old spherules seems too coincidental.. i do think IM1 was interstellar but I'm not so sure that Avi found parts of it. Still listening to the podcast btw, 1000x uranium seems like a good indication that it was interstellar. Cheers John!
@cf453
@cf453 10 ай бұрын
Is there another way to access that critique? Elon went and broke Twitter, so it's not visible to people without accounts.
@19vangogh94
@19vangogh94 10 ай бұрын
​@@cf453 no you gotta create an account
@DrMackSplackem
@DrMackSplackem 10 ай бұрын
@@19vangogh94 Yeah, it's free as free can be. I don't get it, either.
@ThorPalsson
@ThorPalsson 10 ай бұрын
We think, that we have a reliable understanding of the universe hence, we will stand on shaky ground for millennia to come For example - What would we do if we realized that inflation theory is a mirage of the human subjective experience?
@TGBurgerGaming
@TGBurgerGaming 10 ай бұрын
Change our minds and think up something else.
@ThorPalsson
@ThorPalsson 10 ай бұрын
@@TGBurgerGaming Why haven't we found a way to combine quantum mechanics and standard mechanics since Einstein and Bor? String theory will go the way of 20th century Ether - And there are still people that think Heisenberg was speaking literally about the cat analogy.... Heisenberg would be shocked that millions of people today think he was speaking literally with his dead/live cat in a box analogy- He was trying to point out the limitations in our understanding in quantum mechanics.... And yet we have professors dedicated to multiverse theory, an idea deeply rooted in a misunderstanding of Heisenberg
@TGBurgerGaming
@TGBurgerGaming 10 ай бұрын
@@ThorPalsson cool. Now do the lotto numbers as well.
@kushluk777
@kushluk777 10 ай бұрын
Please read Marx, I beg you.
@tobbi11
@tobbi11 10 ай бұрын
🤮
@WAVEFUNCTION_TV
@WAVEFUNCTION_TV 10 ай бұрын
Who does your music? You should drop an album
@mshepard2264
@mshepard2264 10 ай бұрын
I kinda think people are missing the point. Yea its probably not alien technology. However at the very least it is likely pieces of an extra solar meteor! That is amazing by itself! Lets go get some grant money and find the other pieces, do some science and find out.
@jige1225
@jige1225 10 ай бұрын
Of course it is amazing by itself! So there is no need to make alien technology of it!
@ElectrasolAdvanced
@ElectrasolAdvanced 10 ай бұрын
Farm Boy Loeb. You find me. I'm uneducated, but I'll be a workhorse for you if you wish. I'm just looking for someone to follow into battle...
@tobbi11
@tobbi11 10 ай бұрын
for battle you definitely want American generals, as incredibly terrible American politicians are, and even if the American military complex is a mess no one generates as many excellent military leaders, most of them know the art of war by heart not because it's the be all and end all of millitary strategy, but just to prove a point that they have the memory retention for mass information... that's hard... real hard. Avi is just saying big words that actually don't fit together don't follow him anywhere
@ElectrasolAdvanced
@ElectrasolAdvanced 10 ай бұрын
Dude, I was raised by an American Combat Veteran. This comment wasn't intended for you.@@tobbi11
@albinscott
@albinscott 10 ай бұрын
38:10 "[...] but one thing we know for sure, [is] that there is a substance out there that is not represented by stones[...]" Do we?
@QT5656
@QT5656 10 ай бұрын
Does the use of magnets to collect the material restrict the usefulness of some analyses?
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 10 ай бұрын
it does mean they won't find stuff that doesn't have iron
@QT5656
@QT5656 10 ай бұрын
@@nmarbletoe8210 that's not what I meant but yes fair point.
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